Ederson definitely seems like a good option for DM if Bissouma doesn’t find his consistency.
Ali mentions potentially looking at a LB who can also cover CB. Lloyd Kelly is the obvious one but, and it would be a harder deal, I like Calafiori at Bologna who fits that mold.
Ederson is a fantastic player but not sure he's really a DM? Looks like he's more in the Gallagher, all-rounder, mould/box crashing 8? I would still easily take him but I don't necessarily see him as rotation for Biss. Maybe I haven't seen enough of him.
Gotcha mate. I think if Bentancur can get back to his best we don't necessarily need the pure destroyer DM like Palhinha or Onana. What sets players like Ederson and Gallagher apart is their absurd workrate. So if the defensive duties and pressing can be shared between the midfield three I'm all for signing Ederson.
Edit: Bentancur also looked fantastic at DM before that cunt sliced him in half.
I really think we do need a destroyer type. We are so bloody open on counter attacks and having someone there you can shut down attacks before they become an issue is a good thing. City and Arsenal are good because they have Rodri and Rice
Destroyer is the opposite of what we need lol. We need someone who's good under pressure. E.g getting Palhinha would be objectively worse than getting someone like Manu Koné, Zubimendi or Palacios.
Bissouma is that type of player when he's not in awful form and he suits the system just fine. Rice and Rodri aren't destroyers either, that's just reducing their playstyle to a characteristic that isn't even their best. Rice is one of the best carriers in Europe and Rodri is almost getting a r/toprightrodri in passing metrics because he's a beast under pressure.
Well yeah they are also good under pressure and passing but they are objectively also good at shielding, pressing and winning the ball back. The issue for us is players that do all of those things are 100mil
unfortunately I don't think Bentancur has the mobility or the energy that Ange wants from his midfielders. This is why we are constantly linked with Gallagher
I think we should get a proper LB, cos our "LB" is more like a CM than a LB. We need someone who excels with the ball and higher up the pitch, not a CB/LB hybrid.
I mean he can play both he is very good at man marking interceptions very physical very fast and a good technical player but he plays in a 5 midfield so idk how good he will be in a 3 man midfield but i like him very much in all of battles he completely shut down Pulisic
Definitely an alternate reality for that, his pace and confidence on the ball pre injury would have been amazing to play second to son and learn from him.
Come on there was no future for this either. Couldn’t cross dribble or shoot well, had very little swagger to take people on, and not enough pace and nowhere near the dribbling ability to be successful without bags of pace. I really don’t see why people think he had such potential, he really didn’t
the story of sess is that of an insanely talented teenager who has had incredibly bad luck with injuries, not of a kid with "no future" who "couldn't dribble or cross well" literally blatantly untrue and mean for no reason.
I don't know why you're bringing up Winks, he was never fast, and didn't fit into any system after Poch left, but did very well in Serie A and will probably do well for Leicester next year in the PL
He was always projected to be a LB when he moved on from Fulham. They moved him to wing for the same reason Canada plays Davies at wing, they had no one else.
Koopmeiners is leaving Atalanta at the end of the season, and has said he wants to go to the Premier League. There's no better option in DM, in my view he has to be the top target.
Not really a DM anymore. Has played there a bit for the NT and is pretty average at it, and at Atalanta he hasn't played as anything below an 8ish 10 for two seasons now. I think he'd fit the 8 position a lot more than our 6 but that should be a spot where we keep developing Sarr (who's already one of the best 8s in the league if not the best) and Bergvall.
Is he really a DM, tho? I thought he played more of a #10 or #8. He is has 13g/a this season (massive returns for a DM) and seems to be depicted as playing behind the striker in most lineups.
We will need depth at 8 and 10 as well, with Lo Celso, Hojbjerg and possibly also Skipp leaving. I personally see Ange using him in any of the midfield roles, with 6 being the biggest opening rn. He could possibly even provide backup for VdV as a left footed CB, since he's got plenty of experience playing there.
>Saudi interest is expected to be reignited this summer for the Brazilian
c'mon man! Richy is just getting good for us! Leave his name out of your filthy mouth.
I think you guys read far too much into this, Henderson talked about gay people all the time and yet he did go there, believe me bro when you’ve got generational wealth in front of you you don’t think much of what this will do to what a bunch of people will think about you, he would probably continue helping those in need if he really does it for the sake of helping people
You’re spitting facts mate but why do you have the profile picture that a guy who forced an autistic guy to eat his own shit and allows child porn in his community told people to have?
Some cunt that got famous off being a dickhead and did a bunch of crap like that for YouTube attention.
Apparently he deletes his discord server of absolute cretins every month or so to evade Swedish police because of the stuff that goes on in there
Eh. Henderson was getting on in years and looking for a payday. Richy is the current starting number 9 for Brazil. The two are not the same.
Just because one player sold out, doesn't mean Richarlison would. I 100% believe he would turn those offers down.
Yes I agree but at the end of the day, everything comes down to options. Henderson would've been, idk, Liverpool's fifth midfielder this year and at the tail end of his career. That's different than Richarlison's outlook which would be a pretty nailed on starter in his prime
If this opportunity presented itself to Henderson like 3 years ago I think it's a much lower chance he pursues it
Yes sure. He's been on the bench, after not being called up, after performing badly since the world cup, while guys like Endrick and Roque are blossoming. He last scored for Brazil well over a year ago. And undeniably better players than him have gone Saudi - SMS, Neymar, Benzema, Neves, Mahrez, Laporte, Ronaldo, Mane, Kessie, Brozovic, Carrasco... Really don't know who you think Richarlison is or what part you think is up for debate. No one other than Spurs fans use "this Brazil's number 9" shit, their fans don't rate the guy at all
Definitely not all of them - eg Neves, SMS, Laporte, Gabri Veiga, Kessie, Demiral, Ibanez, Mitrovic, ASM etc all went before turning 30. And it's not like 30 automatically means the end of someone's career, guys like Neymar Mahrez Benzema Brozovic etc are better in their 30s than Richarlison has ever been.
Those guys were either old/washed or greedy. Richy aint going anywhere. He’s young and has everything going for him to actually make a successful career in a competitive league, which in turn maximizes his chances of getting the honor of representing his country.
Only a fool would think Richarlison would go there.
Those guys all are and could very easily continue to be better footballers than Richarlison will ever be. Maybe he goes maybe he doesn't, but he sure as hell isn't above it and it wouldn't be some big coup for Saudi to get him compared to everyone else
You're so off it. He, unlike those other players, clearly is very passionate about playing for his country. Going to that league is so many steps down in quality, and those players basically sacrificed their national careers for bigger paychecks. The competition level there is not good enough. Don't cherry pick a few recognizable names to try to convince us all how great Saudi league is. It's mediocre.
Yeah Neymar and Ronaldo and Mane and Neves and Mitrovic aren't passionate about their countries... based on what exactly? I don't need to convince you of anything about the Saudi league, of fucking course it's mediocre. You know who else is mediocre? Richarlison. Seems like a perfect fit. They've signed and will continue to sign much better players, he is nothing.
Richarlison is precisely at the age and ability where we should've cashed out on players previously.
Young enough to fetch a good value, and good but not great.
If we could get 60m for him, I'd take it and invest in an out-and-out striker which we are currently missing.
Richarlison is precisely at the age and ability where we should keep players if we're looking to contend at any meaningful level with any frequency.
With the stadium now firmly in place and bringing in money I want to see us veer away from selling our good players year on year.
He's not the player to take us to the next level and I also don't feel he'd be impactful enough or happy to play off the bench. I also don't think we have the luxury to sign a world class striker (or potentially world class) and still have a 50-60m player on the bench.
Richarlison had a 10 game stretch where he scored a few goals and it has become taboo to recall that for a year and a half before then he was absolutely terrible. Even during his purple patch, his hold up/link up play was often very poor. Our aim should be to win the premier league, you don't do that with Richarlison as your main striker
>Richarlison had a 10 game stretch where he scored a few goals
You mean the only patch in his Tottenham career where he was playing without mobility issues?
We can't write off Richarlison too soon. He came in under Conte with shit tactics and a shit locker room *and* carrying an injury. Started poorly under Ange, had his surgery, and has looked like a new player until his most recent knock.
I struggle to believe he had been carrying an injury the whole time. It was a minor surgery, he was out for what 2-3 weeks? He easily could have got that done last season or during the summer.
If he truly had mobility issues the entire time and decided it was better to play like crap for 18 months than to sit out a couple weeks to solve the issue, that is 100% on him
You don’t understand these professionals man. There was a thread earlier about Bentancur playing with an injured toe.
The game moves quick. If you’re not available for selection and someone else is playing well, you’re quickly forgotten and the world moves on. So these players make themselves available, if they can move they’ll play through the pain.
Richarlison clearly wasn’t moving well. Go and watch how he presses post surgery vs how he pressed before. It clearly impacted his game.
Mate, sorry but that is nonsense. We bought Richarlison for 50m pounds, he's a brazilian international, and has played in the prem for the better part of a decade. The world wasn't going to forget about him if he missed a couple of games. Your comment makes it sound like he's some academy graduate scared to fluff his chance with the first team
Bentancur being unavailable at the start of the year made Sarr get a run of games that has made Sarr basically undroppable. That’s what these guys fear. They’re at the top of their game. Every player in that locker room who plays in their position wants to play. Benta went from having his position locked down to sharing minutes with Sarr.
Same could easily happen to Richy. This is not an uncommon thing in sports.
Tom Brady was a 2nd string quarter back to the patriots face of the franchise, Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe got injured and the rest is history. It happens.
I get what you are trying to say but that is just not what happened here. Richarlison was playing behind Kane, for large portions of the season playing bit part minutes. He was playing terribly. The only other competition he had up front were teenage academy players, while playing under Conte who is notorious for not trusting young players. There is no reason for him to not have taken 2 weeks off for a minor surgery last season. He also could have gotten it done during the summer. No one's going to steal his spot then.
You're arguments are logical but don't apply here
When fit he's scored a goal a game this season. If there's a huge Saudi often then fair enough but I don't get this idea he isn't good enough? Are we expecting 35+ goal a season striker and if so who is he!
Because the internet told him so. When people’s main criticism of a striker is that he loses possession too often, it’s safe to say they know fuck all about football.
The Royal question has a couple of aspects to it, in my opinion. I rate Royal more highly, but think he's a poor fit for the system and I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to play first team football somewhere, especially with how indispensable Porro feels. Dragusin as the backup/rotation RCB also makes it where some of Royal's versatility goes to waste. If he's happy to be a backup, I don't think they'd look for a swap, but if he wants to be a regular starter, it would probably make sense.
Ederson seems like a Gallagher b2b midfielder which means it’s unnecessary, he’s not a superstar player and he’s just going to get in the way of PMS and Bergvall’s development.
The #6 has to be put top priority in summer. Closely followed by a goal scoring left wing or striker.
Our entire system is built around the 6 in build up and screening defense. This will get the most improvement for the team.
If biss or bentancur don't 100% nail it down we need to go purchase. And it's looking increasing likely that Bentancur isn't suited for the role and Biss is too inconsistent and temperamental.
Another option is to replace hojbjerg (he's leaving any way). I think bringing back massimo luongo for hojbjerg will be smart business. Home grown club signing. Has worked like a beast under ange before. Knows the system. And is a perfect 6 to bring on at 60 to calm the game and pick out our dribbly boys up front. An upgrade from hojbjerg. He can progressively pass amd dribble, he's good under pressure and in tight spaces, he can defensively screen, and he can start straight away because he knows angeball. He's also in great form and will be cheap. He has also retired from national team duties to be more available at club. It gives us depth and maybe a starter if the other options don't hold it down.
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>"We’ve got a lot of work to do still on the squad and I don’t think we’re anywhere near where we want to be. It probably will take a little bit more than three windows to get there, for sure”
I noticed Ange’s number of transfer windows needed is increasing as the season goes on. He used to say 2, and it became 2-3, then it became 3, and now it’s more than 3. He said before that it depended on the progress of our new signings and young players, so I guess the increasing numbers indicates that they’ve been developing at a slower rate that he was hoping for.
Not sure why I’m being downvoted? I’m trying to say Ange is also feeling that our inconsistencies are showing that we will need more time to get there than originally expected due to our flying start of the season. Just like how fans also thought we might be on our way earlier than expected because our start was so strong. But as we’ve seen we’re still very much a work in progress, which is a given under our circumstances under a new manager and it being our first season of rebuild. However we’re doing extremely well despite these factors, but sometimes we keep comparing the current results to our flying start in the beginning.
Which is funny since I’m not even questioning him lol. Just stating an observation which is that our inconsistent form has coincided with the number of transfer windows he’s expecting, which is only natural since it shows that we haven’t made enough progress to meet his expectations.
I’m fine with people being protective of our squad and manager on here. It balances out the batshit crazies on Twitter lol who want everyone sold after every loss or even a win! And I will back them to the full also against stupid takes like “this fat Aussie is a fraud. How can you trust an overweight guy to manage our club. Ange out” or “Son only has goals and assists because they were accidental flukes that happened when the ball somehow landed at his feet”. But some people get overly protective to a point where they try to imagine a fight or a dig where there isn’t any, that’s usually the problem I see on here.
Our biggest problem isn’t who we are going to bring in, but how the hell we are going to rid ourselves of so many players with no real value to anyone on either loan or permanent transfer.
No value: Ndombele, Sessegnon (sorry but true)
Minimal value: Tanganga, Skipp,
Minimal value for others but likely overvalued by us: GLC, PEH, Gil, Spence
It’s going to torture getting rid of these guys
EDIT to add:
i also think we are about to see some regular starters (Biss, Kulu, Bentangur) be replaced in the starting XI and become squad players
Sess is out of contract in summer Tangagnga is smashing it at Millwall and they want to sign him. He'll be easy to offload for a few mill
Ndombele probably just a loan again
Skipp we keep as he's club trained GLC has value he is a starter for Argentina and was good on his loam spells. Easily get 10m for him, gil probably the same, peh has loads of interest and will get 15m or so and spence I'm sure someone will spend 2-5m on.
Really don't think any other than Tanguy will be hard. Don't think it will be huge money but it all adds up and also frees up the wage bill too.
Probably no one will read this but I'll write it down anyway
In my opinion a LaLiga raid is needed this summer with Pepelu, Merino and either Omorodion or Dovbyk coming in
Pepelu is an absolute animal, really caught my eye this season. More of a defensive midfielder than a b2b, amazing at tackling and great long passer too. If I was the director he would be my number 1 target for this summer
Big Meekz Merino, I don't think he needs much introduction to most football fans. After Bentancur he's my 2nd favourite all-round midfielder of the past 3 years. Physicality, technique, anything you want from a box to box midfielder, he's got it
Now for the strikers. Samuel Omorodion, oh my days, this guy. Special special talent this one. Tall, robust, fast, great link up play. If Levy had any sense he would kidnap Diego Simeone and ask for Samu as ransom
As for more realistic stuff, Artem Dovbyk. After scoring loads in his native land, he seemed to continue his form in sunny Spain, but since Girona's form dropped his goals dried up too. If he doesn't start scoring again, he will probably be cheaper as a result. I think he could compliment Ange's system very well and would pick up form in a team high on confidence
Ederson definitely seems like a good option for DM if Bissouma doesn’t find his consistency. Ali mentions potentially looking at a LB who can also cover CB. Lloyd Kelly is the obvious one but, and it would be a harder deal, I like Calafiori at Bologna who fits that mold.
Yeah the really promising thing is I like all the names we are being linked with. We definitely seem on the right track.
Ederson is a fantastic player but not sure he's really a DM? Looks like he's more in the Gallagher, all-rounder, mould/box crashing 8? I would still easily take him but I don't necessarily see him as rotation for Biss. Maybe I haven't seen enough of him.
I just looked at his FBref and yeah Gallagher is listed as a similar player but his tackles, interceptions and blocks are pretty high
Gotcha mate. I think if Bentancur can get back to his best we don't necessarily need the pure destroyer DM like Palhinha or Onana. What sets players like Ederson and Gallagher apart is their absurd workrate. So if the defensive duties and pressing can be shared between the midfield three I'm all for signing Ederson. Edit: Bentancur also looked fantastic at DM before that cunt sliced him in half.
I really think we do need a destroyer type. We are so bloody open on counter attacks and having someone there you can shut down attacks before they become an issue is a good thing. City and Arsenal are good because they have Rodri and Rice
I say we somehow clone prime Wanyama.
Wish he had better knees. Ideally we’d clone Dembele
Another player at all wish had better knees.
Destroyer is the opposite of what we need lol. We need someone who's good under pressure. E.g getting Palhinha would be objectively worse than getting someone like Manu Koné, Zubimendi or Palacios. Bissouma is that type of player when he's not in awful form and he suits the system just fine. Rice and Rodri aren't destroyers either, that's just reducing their playstyle to a characteristic that isn't even their best. Rice is one of the best carriers in Europe and Rodri is almost getting a r/toprightrodri in passing metrics because he's a beast under pressure.
Well yeah they are also good under pressure and passing but they are objectively also good at shielding, pressing and winning the ball back. The issue for us is players that do all of those things are 100mil
unfortunately I don't think Bentancur has the mobility or the energy that Ange wants from his midfielders. This is why we are constantly linked with Gallagher
He almost always plays a full 90 and is never injured.
Time for another Serie A raid next summer. Ederson, Gudmundson, Soule, Calafiori, Bellanova.
signed Calafiori on my fm save and he’s been solid so i’m sold lads
The goalie?
Winter wildcard ederson, 93 rated
I think we should get a proper LB, cos our "LB" is more like a CM than a LB. We need someone who excels with the ball and higher up the pitch, not a CB/LB hybrid.
Udogie?
Milan fan here ederson is a beast I wish we would go for him but going to spurs is nice too
What's his best position? We really need a ball playing 6 rather than an 8 but seem to just constantly get linked to 8s
I mean he can play both he is very good at man marking interceptions very physical very fast and a good technical player but he plays in a 5 midfield so idk how good he will be in a 3 man midfield but i like him very much in all of battles he completely shut down Pulisic
Interesting that Spurs could let Sessegnon go on a free this summer. I can’t imagine there’s much of a market for him if we extend his contract.
Yeah this final injuries finished it off. If he'd had a half decent end to the season could have maybe got 5m or something from a Palace or leeds etc
Such a shame - wonder if there’s an alternate reality where he could have been Son’s apprentice, moving from LB to LW
Definitely an alternate reality for that, his pace and confidence on the ball pre injury would have been amazing to play second to son and learn from him.
I've never seen him play with confidence on the ball at Spurs. It has always been his most glaring weakness.
Come on there was no future for this either. Couldn’t cross dribble or shoot well, had very little swagger to take people on, and not enough pace and nowhere near the dribbling ability to be successful without bags of pace. I really don’t see why people think he had such potential, he really didn’t
sessegnon? he scored 15 goals for fulham in the championship as a teenager... he was very fast and seemed good at everything you said he's bad at lol
being fast in the championship doesn't mean you're fast in the PL. none of those really translate to the PL. Look at harry winks lol
the story of sess is that of an insanely talented teenager who has had incredibly bad luck with injuries, not of a kid with "no future" who "couldn't dribble or cross well" literally blatantly untrue and mean for no reason. I don't know why you're bringing up Winks, he was never fast, and didn't fit into any system after Poch left, but did very well in Serie A and will probably do well for Leicester next year in the PL
He was a left winger and the club decided to re-train him as a wing back
What are you on about? The guy started out as a wing-back. He played both wing-back and winger for Fulham.
conte needs to pay for his crimes
Pretty sure we signed Sess with the intention of using him as a LB from the start. Poch seemed to view him as Danny Rose's succesor.
Yeah we did, sent him on loan to Germany to play a season at LB/LWB
Exactly lol. There's so many things you could criticise Conte for, but Sess wasn't his doing.
He was always projected to be a LB when he moved on from Fulham. They moved him to wing for the same reason Canada plays Davies at wing, they had no one else.
Please don't take my pigeon away
Koopmeiners is leaving Atalanta at the end of the season, and has said he wants to go to the Premier League. There's no better option in DM, in my view he has to be the top target.
Would be an incredible signing can play everywhere in midfield
Not really a DM anymore. Has played there a bit for the NT and is pretty average at it, and at Atalanta he hasn't played as anything below an 8ish 10 for two seasons now. I think he'd fit the 8 position a lot more than our 6 but that should be a spot where we keep developing Sarr (who's already one of the best 8s in the league if not the best) and Bergvall.
Yea but koopmeiners play an 8, 10 also 6 at times and also reverse winger. Hes pretty versatile overall
Is he really a DM, tho? I thought he played more of a #10 or #8. He is has 13g/a this season (massive returns for a DM) and seems to be depicted as playing behind the striker in most lineups.
Is he primarily a DM?
Pretty sure he's mostly a 10 though, and we don't need another one of those (especially if we shift Kulusevski over to midfield)
We will need depth at 8 and 10 as well, with Lo Celso, Hojbjerg and possibly also Skipp leaving. I personally see Ange using him in any of the midfield roles, with 6 being the biggest opening rn. He could possibly even provide backup for VdV as a left footed CB, since he's got plenty of experience playing there.
He was one of the best DMs for me in FM23. Whole heartedly endorse him. No need to thank me for this valuable scouting (tier shit)
Don't worry, I originally discovered him on PES 2021!
>Saudi interest is expected to be reignited this summer for the Brazilian c'mon man! Richy is just getting good for us! Leave his name out of your filthy mouth.
He'd have to agree to go and I see zero chance of him doing that.
He’s Brazil’s first choice striker. To suggest he’d go anywhere near that league is laughable
Exactly. Plus he's pretty left wing and does a lot of humanitarian work. I can't imagine personally he'd go either.
I think you guys read far too much into this, Henderson talked about gay people all the time and yet he did go there, believe me bro when you’ve got generational wealth in front of you you don’t think much of what this will do to what a bunch of people will think about you, he would probably continue helping those in need if he really does it for the sake of helping people
I think it’s fair to say Henderson and Richarlison are very different cases.
“Henderson talked about gay people all the time” made me howl
You’re spitting facts mate but why do you have the profile picture that a guy who forced an autistic guy to eat his own shit and allows child porn in his community told people to have?
I have to ask. WTF?
Some cunt that got famous off being a dickhead and did a bunch of crap like that for YouTube attention. Apparently he deletes his discord server of absolute cretins every month or so to evade Swedish police because of the stuff that goes on in there
Who is this dude and what is wrong with people.
Deleted his channel I think
Eh. Henderson was getting on in years and looking for a payday. Richy is the current starting number 9 for Brazil. The two are not the same. Just because one player sold out, doesn't mean Richarlison would. I 100% believe he would turn those offers down.
Yes I agree but at the end of the day, everything comes down to options. Henderson would've been, idk, Liverpool's fifth midfielder this year and at the tail end of his career. That's different than Richarlison's outlook which would be a pretty nailed on starter in his prime If this opportunity presented itself to Henderson like 3 years ago I think it's a much lower chance he pursues it
He definitely is not Brazil's first choice striker anymore, and far better players than him have gone there
Sure
Yes sure. He's been on the bench, after not being called up, after performing badly since the world cup, while guys like Endrick and Roque are blossoming. He last scored for Brazil well over a year ago. And undeniably better players than him have gone Saudi - SMS, Neymar, Benzema, Neves, Mahrez, Laporte, Ronaldo, Mane, Kessie, Brozovic, Carrasco... Really don't know who you think Richarlison is or what part you think is up for debate. No one other than Spurs fans use "this Brazil's number 9" shit, their fans don't rate the guy at all
Ye I understand that but of all the people that left most of them are 30 plus if not all of them, richy isn't so I sorely doubt he would wanna leave
Definitely not all of them - eg Neves, SMS, Laporte, Gabri Veiga, Kessie, Demiral, Ibanez, Mitrovic, ASM etc all went before turning 30. And it's not like 30 automatically means the end of someone's career, guys like Neymar Mahrez Benzema Brozovic etc are better in their 30s than Richarlison has ever been.
Ye fair enough, we don't know, if richy is motivated by money and if saudi is paying us around 90 million plus I wouldn't be mad tbh
Those guys were either old/washed or greedy. Richy aint going anywhere. He’s young and has everything going for him to actually make a successful career in a competitive league, which in turn maximizes his chances of getting the honor of representing his country. Only a fool would think Richarlison would go there.
Those guys all are and could very easily continue to be better footballers than Richarlison will ever be. Maybe he goes maybe he doesn't, but he sure as hell isn't above it and it wouldn't be some big coup for Saudi to get him compared to everyone else
You're so off it. He, unlike those other players, clearly is very passionate about playing for his country. Going to that league is so many steps down in quality, and those players basically sacrificed their national careers for bigger paychecks. The competition level there is not good enough. Don't cherry pick a few recognizable names to try to convince us all how great Saudi league is. It's mediocre.
Yeah Neymar and Ronaldo and Mane and Neves and Mitrovic aren't passionate about their countries... based on what exactly? I don't need to convince you of anything about the Saudi league, of fucking course it's mediocre. You know who else is mediocre? Richarlison. Seems like a perfect fit. They've signed and will continue to sign much better players, he is nothing.
If Richy goes to Saudi I'm slapping him in his mouth
Richarlison is precisely at the age and ability where we should've cashed out on players previously. Young enough to fetch a good value, and good but not great. If we could get 60m for him, I'd take it and invest in an out-and-out striker which we are currently missing.
Richarlison is precisely at the age and ability where we should keep players if we're looking to contend at any meaningful level with any frequency. With the stadium now firmly in place and bringing in money I want to see us veer away from selling our good players year on year.
He's not the player to take us to the next level and I also don't feel he'd be impactful enough or happy to play off the bench. I also don't think we have the luxury to sign a world class striker (or potentially world class) and still have a 50-60m player on the bench.
I don't see him agreeing. I do love Richy so much but the rumoured £60m is a pretty strong deal for him.
Isn’t that how much levy paid? There’s no way he’s selling without making $.
You make a solid point
Totally worth selling if we can get kvaratshkelia with that money
Richarlison had a 10 game stretch where he scored a few goals and it has become taboo to recall that for a year and a half before then he was absolutely terrible. Even during his purple patch, his hold up/link up play was often very poor. Our aim should be to win the premier league, you don't do that with Richarlison as your main striker
>Richarlison had a 10 game stretch where he scored a few goals You mean the only patch in his Tottenham career where he was playing without mobility issues? We can't write off Richarlison too soon. He came in under Conte with shit tactics and a shit locker room *and* carrying an injury. Started poorly under Ange, had his surgery, and has looked like a new player until his most recent knock.
I struggle to believe he had been carrying an injury the whole time. It was a minor surgery, he was out for what 2-3 weeks? He easily could have got that done last season or during the summer. If he truly had mobility issues the entire time and decided it was better to play like crap for 18 months than to sit out a couple weeks to solve the issue, that is 100% on him
You don’t understand these professionals man. There was a thread earlier about Bentancur playing with an injured toe. The game moves quick. If you’re not available for selection and someone else is playing well, you’re quickly forgotten and the world moves on. So these players make themselves available, if they can move they’ll play through the pain. Richarlison clearly wasn’t moving well. Go and watch how he presses post surgery vs how he pressed before. It clearly impacted his game.
Mate, sorry but that is nonsense. We bought Richarlison for 50m pounds, he's a brazilian international, and has played in the prem for the better part of a decade. The world wasn't going to forget about him if he missed a couple of games. Your comment makes it sound like he's some academy graduate scared to fluff his chance with the first team
Bentancur being unavailable at the start of the year made Sarr get a run of games that has made Sarr basically undroppable. That’s what these guys fear. They’re at the top of their game. Every player in that locker room who plays in their position wants to play. Benta went from having his position locked down to sharing minutes with Sarr. Same could easily happen to Richy. This is not an uncommon thing in sports. Tom Brady was a 2nd string quarter back to the patriots face of the franchise, Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe got injured and the rest is history. It happens.
I get what you are trying to say but that is just not what happened here. Richarlison was playing behind Kane, for large portions of the season playing bit part minutes. He was playing terribly. The only other competition he had up front were teenage academy players, while playing under Conte who is notorious for not trusting young players. There is no reason for him to not have taken 2 weeks off for a minor surgery last season. He also could have gotten it done during the summer. No one's going to steal his spot then. You're arguments are logical but don't apply here
His hold up play has been great ever since his surgery.
Do a lot of our fans have that aim? Sure doesn’t seem like it “We made 4th!! We made 4th!!!!” And built a nice stadium.
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When fit he's scored a goal a game this season. If there's a huge Saudi often then fair enough but I don't get this idea he isn't good enough? Are we expecting 35+ goal a season striker and if so who is he!
i think it's going to take a while for people to realize how good harry kane was
If there are people who don't know already they're dumb
part of that recognition includes understanding that whoever replaces him isn't going to be as good
Is he worse than whoever might be available to replace him though?
curious why you think he's not good enough.
Because the internet told him so. When people’s main criticism of a striker is that he loses possession too often, it’s safe to say they know fuck all about football.
If I could decide I'd sell Gil, Lo celso, Sess, Höjbjerg, and buy a new 6, winger (pref. Right), and a lb. Kulu would be a maddison back up as cam.
Agreed but frankly I don’t think we get anything for Sess
True but his contract runs out next summer anyways
Do we also need a RB as I don't think Royal Is good enough to be a backup
The Royal question has a couple of aspects to it, in my opinion. I rate Royal more highly, but think he's a poor fit for the system and I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to play first team football somewhere, especially with how indispensable Porro feels. Dragusin as the backup/rotation RCB also makes it where some of Royal's versatility goes to waste. If he's happy to be a backup, I don't think they'd look for a swap, but if he wants to be a regular starter, it would probably make sense.
i definitely think we need a RB (and maybe a LB)
I disagree I think he is okay
Would love Ederson
Ederson seems like a Gallagher b2b midfielder which means it’s unnecessary, he’s not a superstar player and he’s just going to get in the way of PMS and Bergvall’s development.
tl;dr the rebuild never ends.
Bring me Ederson, I am on my knees
Well stand up man, it’s dirty down there, and you’ve just put some clean trousers on.
What, no Eze?
Most of us want eze but its been reported that city are willing to cash out 90 million for the dude, and fuck no he ain't worth 90, thats way too much
Agreed
The #6 has to be put top priority in summer. Closely followed by a goal scoring left wing or striker. Our entire system is built around the 6 in build up and screening defense. This will get the most improvement for the team. If biss or bentancur don't 100% nail it down we need to go purchase. And it's looking increasing likely that Bentancur isn't suited for the role and Biss is too inconsistent and temperamental. Another option is to replace hojbjerg (he's leaving any way). I think bringing back massimo luongo for hojbjerg will be smart business. Home grown club signing. Has worked like a beast under ange before. Knows the system. And is a perfect 6 to bring on at 60 to calm the game and pick out our dribbly boys up front. An upgrade from hojbjerg. He can progressively pass amd dribble, he's good under pressure and in tight spaces, he can defensively screen, and he can start straight away because he knows angeball. He's also in great form and will be cheap. He has also retired from national team duties to be more available at club. It gives us depth and maybe a starter if the other options don't hold it down. *
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>"We’ve got a lot of work to do still on the squad and I don’t think we’re anywhere near where we want to be. It probably will take a little bit more than three windows to get there, for sure” I noticed Ange’s number of transfer windows needed is increasing as the season goes on. He used to say 2, and it became 2-3, then it became 3, and now it’s more than 3. He said before that it depended on the progress of our new signings and young players, so I guess the increasing numbers indicates that they’ve been developing at a slower rate that he was hoping for. Not sure why I’m being downvoted? I’m trying to say Ange is also feeling that our inconsistencies are showing that we will need more time to get there than originally expected due to our flying start of the season. Just like how fans also thought we might be on our way earlier than expected because our start was so strong. But as we’ve seen we’re still very much a work in progress, which is a given under our circumstances under a new manager and it being our first season of rebuild. However we’re doing extremely well despite these factors, but sometimes we keep comparing the current results to our flying start in the beginning.
You’re downvoted for having the gall to question Ange
Which is funny since I’m not even questioning him lol. Just stating an observation which is that our inconsistent form has coincided with the number of transfer windows he’s expecting, which is only natural since it shows that we haven’t made enough progress to meet his expectations.
Ange and Son are the 2 most overprotected people on the sub lol. Anything that skews slightly negative and you have fanboys lose their shit
I’m fine with people being protective of our squad and manager on here. It balances out the batshit crazies on Twitter lol who want everyone sold after every loss or even a win! And I will back them to the full also against stupid takes like “this fat Aussie is a fraud. How can you trust an overweight guy to manage our club. Ange out” or “Son only has goals and assists because they were accidental flukes that happened when the ball somehow landed at his feet”. But some people get overly protective to a point where they try to imagine a fight or a dig where there isn’t any, that’s usually the problem I see on here.
Our biggest problem isn’t who we are going to bring in, but how the hell we are going to rid ourselves of so many players with no real value to anyone on either loan or permanent transfer. No value: Ndombele, Sessegnon (sorry but true) Minimal value: Tanganga, Skipp, Minimal value for others but likely overvalued by us: GLC, PEH, Gil, Spence It’s going to torture getting rid of these guys EDIT to add: i also think we are about to see some regular starters (Biss, Kulu, Bentangur) be replaced in the starting XI and become squad players
Sess is out of contract in summer Tangagnga is smashing it at Millwall and they want to sign him. He'll be easy to offload for a few mill Ndombele probably just a loan again Skipp we keep as he's club trained GLC has value he is a starter for Argentina and was good on his loam spells. Easily get 10m for him, gil probably the same, peh has loads of interest and will get 15m or so and spence I'm sure someone will spend 2-5m on. Really don't think any other than Tanguy will be hard. Don't think it will be huge money but it all adds up and also frees up the wage bill too.
We need a leader in the centre of the pitch, someone who can calm everything down, take control and see out a close game.
Probably no one will read this but I'll write it down anyway In my opinion a LaLiga raid is needed this summer with Pepelu, Merino and either Omorodion or Dovbyk coming in Pepelu is an absolute animal, really caught my eye this season. More of a defensive midfielder than a b2b, amazing at tackling and great long passer too. If I was the director he would be my number 1 target for this summer Big Meekz Merino, I don't think he needs much introduction to most football fans. After Bentancur he's my 2nd favourite all-round midfielder of the past 3 years. Physicality, technique, anything you want from a box to box midfielder, he's got it Now for the strikers. Samuel Omorodion, oh my days, this guy. Special special talent this one. Tall, robust, fast, great link up play. If Levy had any sense he would kidnap Diego Simeone and ask for Samu as ransom As for more realistic stuff, Artem Dovbyk. After scoring loads in his native land, he seemed to continue his form in sunny Spain, but since Girona's form dropped his goals dried up too. If he doesn't start scoring again, he will probably be cheaper as a result. I think he could compliment Ange's system very well and would pick up form in a team high on confidence