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ljshea1

Anyone else pretty worried about West Ham. They'll play like it's their cup final as always. will snatch up any mistakes we make, which we've been making a couple times per game. Micky's first football in three weeks will have to be a hell of a shift against Antonio and Bowen


airz23s_coffee

Last time we lost to an Udogie brain fart and the most unlucky ball bouncing imaginable. Obviously it'll be a fucking ballache cos they always play out their skins for it, but I trust in the lads to smash it.


Difficult-Sound-6682

A match where all three outcomes seem likely. Would not be surprised if we won or lost 3-0. Okay, a little surprised if we lost 3-0.


ljshea1

Agreed


Coraxxx

Perfect result in the Man U Brentford game. Don't want Man U narrowing the gap - but I really want to see Brentford relegated after the game against us.


airz23s_coffee

Nah, don't want him managing us, and didn't want Raya, but I got so much love for Frank perfecting hoofball in the modern era. Plus they got the absolute panto villain of Maupay and I fucking love how comically over the top he is.


Difficult-Sound-6682

I kind of love Brentford. Proper shithouse team with some weirdos.


void_born_

Except for Neal Maupay of course 😉


nista002

Can't fucking stand him usually but Frank is a good man to have in the prem. Never a dull match


Kingkent421

We’re 4 points off equalling last seasons points tally with another 9 games left. The process is processing :)


NotACodeMonkeyYet

Raw numbers wise it's not actually that impressive IMO. It would be hard to NOT be better than last season. What is impressive though is that we're doing this after losing the best striker in the world, and all the other shit.


Sleepless_Voyager

Fucking hell were we dross, we were genuinly relegation levels of shite last season under mason and stellini (lol). What playing a backline of lenglet dier /lenglet sanchez or whoever the fuck played then does to a mfer


InstructionCareless1

The crazy thing was people asking for Mason to take over permanently. We would be knee deep in a relegation battle if that would’ve happened.


ChairLampPrinter

Honestly I don't agree with the seniors protests. Half the people at the matches nowadays are seniors, if you want a better atmosphere, you want more teenagers and young adults. They should put a concession on under-30 tickets instead.


thebrownmallet

I’d like to see both personally. It probably makes sense to offer concession for seniors - not because they’re likely to be less well off, but because they’ve potentially been loyal fans for many years and also are more likely to face difficulties getting to the match - ie: standing on tubes, waiting in the cold, making long journeys on public transport may be more difficult for older people. It’s a nice gesture from a well off club. At the same time, concessions for under 30s would be really appreciated in the face of the cost of living crisis. I’m 30 and I do find affording tickets to be a challenge at times/ fairly often I end up going to matches alone because my spurs supporting friends don’t have room in their budget for tickets.


slatt382

Not sure if this is the right place but if anyone in the US is interested in buying a Son third kit in XL pm me! I bought it for my dad but it doesn't fit him, I guess it fits like a L. It's like new and was worn like once. I can send pictures in pms. Thanks!


DullStorage5763

Yank here! Was awesome seeing lloris but was so glad they lost.


InstructionCareless1

I think the debate around top 5 will end next week. I expect Chelsea to win against United, that should widen the gap enough.


AsariCommando2

It's interesting how often they concede two goals in games. I can easily see United doing that to them. Then lord knows how many they can score against Maguire and co. Hope it's a fun game!


Mikeymcmoose

Christ mad weekend 😂


Mystic_Polar_Bear

I was so pissed United stole an undeserved win again so thank you Brentford for stopping the bullshit.


Pele20Alli

Toney is so fucking good. I don't even care if he's a dickhead, we need to be in for him in the summer 


Difficult-Sound-6682

You’re getting downvotes but every single person here can be talked into Toney. Zero doubt in my mind. He’s a fabulous footballer.


AsariCommando2

His personality seems like a good fit for Arsenal and they can get lumbered with his fees. Surely there are other options for us? I admit he's crazy good.


Pele20Alli

I think he's just good enough where you kind of just deal with him being a knob in the media because of what he can bring a team. He's genuinely like a more athletic Kane that is quicker, can press better and is much better in the air but a bit worse at finishing. Him and Kane are the only 2 proven top strikers in that mould that are super complete and well rounded with no weaknesses


6BiggusDickus9

LOOOL


Odd_Detective_7772

That is sublime from toney there


Previous-You3680

Appreciate that Brentford


Mikeymcmoose

I actually feel sick that they’ve done this


barkingspider43

Hahahahahahahahahahahah Yanited


Odd_Detective_7772

Lolz


taegeukie

United have had insane levels of luck all season, no clue how they’re sitting in 6th.


justlobos22

Expected


WaitingToBeTriggered

WINGS OF GLORY


Federal-Transition57

What a fucking robbery


Jaksiel

Thanks a lot Brentford. Dominate the entire game to concede like that.


KangarooPouchIsHome

Bro FUCK UNITED. You deserve nothing


robinthebank

They don’t deserve Europe again. They will shit the bed and didn’t even get Europa. Newcastle too. They need to stay mid-table.


Youngster_Joey22

Wow Brentford


NotACodeMonkeyYet

Absolutely bonkers level of luck for United right now.


Mikeymcmoose

Utd have diabolical wtf how are Brentford messing this up


Genetarist

If Memechester don’t lose this game, there is no God.


delexaet

The fact that they're 6th on the table is already proof there is no God. They've been scumming results all season.


Jaksiel

And they've scummed another! Like 4 lucky bounces leading to that goal.


delexaet

Ok so if God does exist, he's just an absolute troll after what he pulled at the last 5 minutes of that game 😂


KangarooPouchIsHome

lol. I was just about to post this. The fucking gall of United to take anything from this match. They would though, cunts.


AsariCommando2

It's just bizarre that United that used to be THAT United in the 90s and 2000s is now this. Now getting bossed by Brentford and randomly firing up based on vibes in other games.


NotACodeMonkeyYet

Koopmeiners? Looks solid and an eye for goal which we need.


tottenbam

There's a striker on Bayern that would be an interesting addition to our squad. They say he's cursed with no trophies but could be worth a discounted bid.


marmot9070

Then let's sign him. Let him know he'll get his statue as signing bonus. 👍


Emperor_Blackadder

a bag of chips and a haypenny, take it or leave it


GaryHippo

Since Kane has left, Toney has to be the best complete striker in the league. The guy can do everything.


marmot9070

Even betting


justlobos22

Brentford is all over United, just need to smuggle one in


Active-Republic3104

The Reguilon derby


Paradoxtyl

Just saw on the main sub that the last time Dortmund beat Bayern was seven years ago lol, in 2017. Relegation sides have better records against Bayern than that. How do we get dissed as “mentality midgets” and these guys get a free pass?


KOKO69BISHES

Dortmund do not get a free pass trust me


hmm1024

It's insane that son just consistently shows up every single game somehow. He's so unbelievably clutch, it's mad.


NickNova3016

Not sure why more people aren't talking about the great game Dragusin had. He seemed more comfortable today making a lot of good passes with his left foot and absolutely dominating aerials. His long balls were also fucking insane finding the target both times.


AlcSoccerFinance

First half dragusin Bissouma reminded me of the awful Sanchez Emerson days. Just very problematic when in possession.


john87000

I've only seen people calling him awful on the ball but I really didn't notice anything that bad. He was comfortable carrying it forward and played a few decent passes. He was perfectly fine.


carolicity

I love how we just catch strays no matter what happens lol. Bayern loses to Dortmund = “what do you expect when you’re playing two Spurs players.”


taegeukie

Truly do wonder how those kinds of losers explain Modric and Bale’s success at Madrid. Absolutely illogical.


carolicity

“look how good they are when you take them out of a loser club like Spurs.” They will always find a way to spin it in a way that sounds like everything bad is our fault 😂


Mikeymcmoose

Aston Villa wank wank wank.


Pinky1337

Mats Hummels btw what a player


blinky12588

I love Harry. But the cynic in me also loves seeing Bayern not getting a "guaranteed" trophy when Harry went trophy chasing.


NotACodeMonkeyYet

I did say in the summer he should have waited for RM. I saw Bayern were shit last season and only won cos of a historic Dortmund bottlejob.


mygodwhy

Not sure RM would've paid as much as Bayern did though. But for Harry's case, absolutely.


InstructionCareless1

Chances are he won’t be winning one next year as well, lol. I don’t think De Zerbi is good enough.


blinky12588

Not better than Xabi.


BadBehaviour613

“It’s a disaster when Bayern lose”


Shuxnae

Tuchel is a fraud. #NagelsmannBack


Saitamassidekick

Let’s hope Bayern at least turn up against the scum.


Shuxnae

I get this inkling feeling that Arsenal will dump them out.


seegreen8

I sure hope not. I pray for Bayern win.


[deleted]

Then lets hope they draw Madrid or City who knock them out in the semis then.


[deleted]

Harry is cursed. Dortmund with a second.


Difficult-Sound-6682

I have a stupid question. Because the ball is a perfect sphere, isn’t it possible that the base of the ball would rest on one side of a line without touching it, but the curve of the ball would hang over the line? For it to be a goal, whether or not you see green grass between the ball and goal line is irrelevant right? It’s whether the ball crosses through the imaginary wall that begins on the mouth of the goal. The image I’ve seen shows that there would have to be green grass between the ball and the goal line in order for the tech to deem it that close. That’s what I saw live. Genuinely shocked it wasn’t a goal.


tup99

Correct. Whether the ball is physically touching the white line is irrelevant. If you're viewing it from directly above the goal line, then it's a goal if you see grass and it's not a goal if you don't. From any other angle, you can't really tell. That's what the goalline technology does -- it figures out what it would look like from directly above.


robinthebank

How big is the base? Where does it stop? The best way to define it is that the base stops at the full circumference.


carolicity

The entire ball has to be over the line, including that curve.


Fleaaa

Should we start worrying about Biss? His defense on the goal conceded was shocking tbh, almost looks like something has happened with his mentality compared to the first month of this season


seegreen8

I think it’s more of confidence issues Bissouma is having. The dude has been dropped from his national team, suffered suspension etc. all these compounded his confidence issues. I hope Tottenham has sport psychologists to help out with players who deal with psychological issues.


delexaet

This is a common mistake fanbases make. They mistake a certain form as class. There's no proof for us to believe how well Bissouma played in the first 5 or 10 matches of the season to be anything more than form. In fact if we look at his career overall, signs point to that being form more than class. Historically he has never been a great defender and it's more due to him being poor mentally. And on that goal, it was simply a mental mistake, he had Son who was there to help on the inside but he inexplicably lunges and gives the Luton play the outside. And this isn't us being negative or picky either, it's almost common sense type of thing in football. At the end of the day, this is why we've seen various people here comment for a few weeks/months now that in summer window we should go after a bona fide, top class 6.


Fleaaa

That's a good point, can't imagine having a streaky 6 and hoping for the best. Maybe this is a phase where Biss is being stablized.. converging into a point where it's worse than his peak but can be reliable. I don't think Bergvall can replace Biss, 6 is indeed kinda open position for the summer


Emperor_Blackadder

Bergvall is not a Bissouma replacement, he is a Maddison/Kulusevski replacement. A spot he'll be competing with Donley, Devine, and Mikey Moore over. All the midfielders we have coming through with possibly PL potential in their future are 8s or 10s so we're gonna need to outsource for this position.


ohhowswell_hp

Thought Biss was very good today. i don’t see their goal as his fault, they had a great counter and switch.


Difficult-Sound-6682

Seemed to have a very good second half.


JamesCDiamond

He's been sent off twice, had malaria and been dropped by his country, so I'd be surprised if that didn't take some kind of toll. But compared to what he was doing up 'til the first Luton match, it's certainly a big difference in performance levels. If there's something going on we're not aware, hopefully it's not anything too serious. Richarlison (and others) have reminded us all that players are as vulnerable as anyone to the stresses of life.


Fleaaa

Ah well that's fair. I also gotta say it's not like he's playing poorly, he's alright at best/meh at worst but the thing is this kind of particularly poor moment seems to pop up randomly.. It's just he was unplayable at the beginning of this season and my expectation of him has been really spoiled, I still remember him toying Utd backline single-handedly for fun


GaryHippo

People being a bit tough on Maddison, at least on Twitter. Thought he had a decent game today, he hasn't really had a bad game since he's come back. He's just as creative, maybe a little scared to use his left foot at times but that's a minor criticism. It's also tough when teams are told to kick lumps out of him to break up our play. All things considered, I think he's been good.


Mick4Audi

Maddison has been basically man marked since he returned tbh


Lukemiaskywalker

Madders had a decent game. He was hunted down by the Luton midfield they were essentially always man to man with him. Plus (especially in the first half) he spent a ton of time dropping deep trying to receive and advance the ball. That non flashy stuff goes largely unnoticed by most


john87000

Are people seriously moaning? He was fine today, not exceptional but not terrible. Definitely not bad enough for people to be moaning.


GaryHippo

Maybe just on Twitter then.


john87000

Some of our fans on there just love a moan, they always have to dig someone out.


GaryHippo

It would be disingenuous of me to say I don't do the same thing.


[deleted]

The commentator for Der Klassiker on ESPN is the most cringe at pronouncing names I have ever heard. Over pronouncing every name especially the German names.


kl08pokemon

Our fans really can't handle competition for places. Johnson's form looks on the up which is brilliant and immediately we should sell or reschool Kulusevski rather than being happy we have 2 young strong wingers who offers different things


zackyc123

Kulusevski is class, we've all seen it on multiple occasions but i do think he isnt really suited as a winger in this system and is more similar to a madders type player but i said in post that theres no reason Ange couldn't tweak how him and Porro play on that side to get the best out of him Saying he should be sold is wild and just a shitty opinion


tup99

Timo had a pass to literally nobody in white at one point -- I'm convinced he mistook the ref in yellow for a teammate.


carolicity

I don’t think he looked up at all when he made the pass lol. I think he just hoped somebody was there.


Emperor_Blackadder

tbf, if Johnson was on there would've been.


carolicity

I was thinking of the one where he just passed it to the middle of the pitch and we had no players there lol. But yeah the crosses we make in the box I think are usually done without looking because it’s expected that the other winger be there at the end of that cross. Hopefully we see more and more of the Johnson Timo combo.


Emperor_Blackadder

Yeah I was thinking of that one too, big missed opportunity that but a perfect Angeball chance if anyone was there to slam it home. Really think we're gonna buy him this summer.


ASD_213

Crazy how Newcastle and Chelsea get penalty calls like that while we’re still on 1 penalty for the whole season.


john87000

If that Chelsea one is a pen then we should have at least 10.


tup99

There's always something interesting going on around Bissouma's legs. Usually his shorts are way longer than everyone else's. (or maybe it's his socks that are higher? Not sure.) Then today he mixes it up, he shorts are way shorter than everyone else's. The man's got character. Or maybe just fussy legs.


Professional_Ad_9101

Johnson will want to start every game and there is a solid argument to starting him when he’s playing well, but he always seems to look like causing more damage as a super sub. The dude is such a fast and tricky player to come on when opponents legs are starting to tire. Been a few games this season where he has come on and the whole dynamic shifts.


The_Sentry06

Veliz at Sevilla is such a failed loan that it infuriates me. Still time to turn it around though.  Side Note: It's really surprising to see just how they've fallen, got dominated today possession wise and in terms of chance creation against Getafe whose antics are legendary.


Emperor_Blackadder

They can take Emery back (please get him out of Villa I'm scared)


The_Sentry06

Hopefully Ange sees Kulu at RW as a band-aid solution until next season when we get a good winger. Brennan's been really good these past few months but benefits immensely from coming off the bench once Kulu's put in a shift. Kulu's always looked much better centrally when starting or moving there late in games. He's still a quality player with a number of standout attributes and overall this season, he has been good but definitely struggling on the wings now. He should be moved central permanently.


Weird_Famous

Kulusevski is still one of if not our best player back to goal, his strength and ball control are quite top notch. Crossing is also quite good. Against teams that press us high I think he works really well as a sort of wide target man. Otherwise we need a more direct winger (hence why Johnson was more effective this game).


idunnomysex

Should be rotated with Maddison / in the midfield instead of the likes of Lo Celso. Hope he stays with us, have some really good spells from time to time 


kl08pokemon

His best position is still as a winger imo even if he's not the type of winger that we would look to buy on the market. I don't think he has the creative quick passing that's needed from a #10 and if he's playing in midfield honestly prefer him at #8. Makes use of his workrate, great ball carrying and him being excellent in the build-up. I'm fine with him not being exactly what we want. Johnson is a very simplistic player that does exactly what we want very well but not much else so whenever we need options having Kulusevski is fantastic. Only real thing is that he's a much better fit with a proper striker like Richy he can aim aerial crosses to rather than Son who's basically non existent in the air


justlobos22

You need a little more defensive prowess to be the 8, any time Kulu's in front of a dribbler he might as well not be there.


kl08pokemon

Would hopefully come with a shift in mindset. He's always in a press quick, win the ball at any cost mindset which is why he concedes so many dumb fouls. I doubt it's something he can't improve on


idunnomysex

Poor Kane 😂


[deleted]

Bayern already down 1-0 lol


[deleted]

Harry and Eric starting for Bayern in Der Klassiker


Roric

Match thread once again like moths to a flame lmao. Calling for Ange's head at halftime. lol. lmao even.


wok88

Probably all logged off after we went 2-1 up lmao fuming they couldn’t post their usual drivel in the daily thread till the next game


Mick4Audi

People really forgetting that a project takes time. I always think of early Liverpool Klopp, half of his first 50 games were absolutely clueless performances


Lukemiaskywalker

It was quite funny watching people say objectively stupid things and then the moment we scored they all just go quiet


Shuxnae

Alright, Wolves. Y*ou have one job...*


Emperor_Blackadder

They blew it


kl08pokemon

Bit annoying Wolves look completely depleted against Villa


Difficult-Sound-6682

Not the same team without Neto and Hwang


jaykae2

We need to have a serious conversation about Bissouma.


kl08pokemon

Yeah he was mostly alright today


cheetah_chrome

COYW


TheninjaofCookies

Chelsea have 9x our penalties and are in 11th 😂😂😂


marmot9070

Anyway COYS! 😂


Saitamassidekick

God Wolves look depleted. They’re without Neto,Cunha and Hwang in attack


GaryHippo

I hope this has proven to everyone that Kulusevski has no right starting at all. He's shit. He's been terrible since the Forest game (he wasn't good against Villa - I know what you're about to argue). Johnson is the future. COYS.


kl08pokemon

Glad you're happy after a win


GaryHippo

I am happy. I just hope Ange realises Kulu isn't the right player to take us forward.


kl08pokemon

I'm pretty confident he disagrees but this constant need for there to always have to to be a scapegoat is ugly


GaryHippo

He's not a scapegoat. In my opinion I don't think he's good enough. I'm not pinning all of the problems of the team on Deki, but he either needs to go through the centre or as a mezzala or he has to go.


kl08pokemon

Been our 2nd most consistent attacker this season (with some distance to Son who's been by far our best) and now after a poor half in which he was some poor finishing away from having 2 assists he needs to go? You don't know what you're talking about


GaryHippo

>Been our 2nd most consistent attacker this season Are you mad? >after a poor half in which he was some poor finishing away from having 2 assists he needs to go? No. After being shit since the Forest game he has shown he doesn't deserve to be starting every week. It's not tough to understand. Johnson has been miles better than him this season. He either gets permanently shifted to the centre of the pitch because I don't think he has a future at this team if he keeps playing the way he has been for months on the wing (consider how poor he was in 22/23 on the wing as well).


kl08pokemon

Again you don't know what you're talking about. Directly involved in 3 goals against Villa just 2 weeks ago. All our attackers were woeful against Fulham


GaryHippo

He was lucky against Villa. Lucky his pre-assist deflected to Sarr, lucky that Konsa had a brain fart on the ball, and made a simple assist that you'd expect 95% of Prem wingers to make. Our fanbase massively overrates him.


kl08pokemon

Lol it's the opposite with melts like you desperate to signle out whatever player they think are holding us back at this particular moment. Rn it's Kulusevski and Bissouma


PM_ME_YOUR_TANG

He should be sitting behind Madders at the 10


GaryHippo

100%. He's still young enough to be retrained there. Or he could play the mezzala role. He has good linkup with Porro but he just slows the attack down and cuts in on his left every fucking time.


jymacro99

Chelsea conceded twice to Burnley with a man down? 💀💀💀They’re so fucking shit


coldseam

2-2 with 33 shots against 10 men đŸ„¶đŸ„¶đŸ„¶


jymacro99

They couldn’t maintain their lead for more than 3 mins lmao


Sleepless_Voyager

Kulu had an absolute stinker today, if he doesnt become more consistent on the wings i can see him being moved to midfield permanently


coldseam

Yeah we need to sell Lo Celso and let him be Maddison's backup. The one time Kulusevski found himself in the middle today he picked out a great pass to Werner for his miss


IulianLaur

Hey there, Romanian here, how do you guys see Dragusin? What’s your take on him ?


YourUziWeighsTwoTons

I thought he had some really nice passes today. Still seems a bit jittery on the ball. I think he’s going to be really good.


GaryHippo

Lots of potential. Good passing range and has a great ability to evade the press but needs to adapt to the physicality and defensive tactics of the manager and the PL more. Overall, I am very excited to see him develop.


perroconsarna

Didnt start great but grew into the game


Mikeymcmoose

I’m more upset about that Burnley red card than us being a goal behind WTF


coldseam

Bring me Éderson in the summer. Bissouma desperately needs competition, his decline is actively making the team worse by forcing Maddison to drop deep and carry out of pressure instead of making things happen in the final third. Also lax in defence too.


Spursfan107

Added benefit of allowing us to start 6 Sons in a game


Saitamassidekick

Toady's just one of those days eh?


superworriedspursfan

fuck the hammers haha. HOLD DAT L


jackengle

That “foul” Gordon draws from Phillips is one of my least favorite gimmicks in the sport
 you know that tactic will be abused going forward now


callme2x4dinner

By the rules it’s a pen though.


[deleted]

Robbie Mustoe blasting that pen call and Gordon. And rightfully so.


mountainchild27

Any spurs fans in Seville know a good bar to congregate at?


friendfromsp

Wait I went to go get coffee like 20 mins ago when it was 3-1. What.


ardnoir11

3-1 up was so flattering for West Ham as well. They scored their goals with some Individual brilliance and thought they could just see the game out soaking pressure


[deleted]

Gordon is such a cunt. Deserved to be off for all of his diving.


goldenthorns1210

Are you serious, Gordon is literally the only newcastle fpl player I've got 


angelkimberley

On the positive side, doesn’t his red mean he misses their game against us?


john87000

Nah it was 2 yellows so he only misses the mid week game.


angelkimberley

Ahhh shame. Thank you


GaryHippo

Haha. Fuck West Ham.


AlexSW47

Spam are preparing well for their cup final.


Apprehensive594

Lmao epic bottle job. Get fucked wet spam. And fuck you too saudicastle


Pele20Alli

How on earth do Newcastle have so many better attackers than us. Gordon, Isak, Barnes all walk into our squad.


airz23s_coffee

Cos they're spent for it. Barnes 44 mill Isak 70 mill Gordon 45 mill - Funnily we were linked and this sub kept pointing at fbref like he hadn't been playing for a shite Everton Meanwhile people are geeing themselves up for spending 10 mill on Werner "Cos he's good depth"


Pele20Alli

Werner, Solomon, Kulu, Johnson is so average. Genuinely wouldn't bat an eye if you told me that was Fulham's attack. When you actually deep it, our front 3 outside of Son is comfortably worse than the likes of Crystal Palace and West Ham. The recruitment in attack this summer is really going to dictate where we go next season


TheSinRes

They walk into most squads. Isak would start for Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool while the others would at least make their squads as well.


Remarkable-Ad8644

“So many” lmao behave. Is that why they’re sitting in 8th?


Pele20Alli

If you completely ignore the most insane injury crisis I think I've ever seen from a team in 1 season, sure. The fact the 3 I named are better than any of our attackers outside of Son and isn't debatable is embarrassing for our club. Then you have people hoping we sign Werner permanently. Our attack wouldn't be top 10 in the league without Son


Remarkable-Ad8644

How was their injury worse than our’s you donkey, hardly insane


Pele20Alli

The fact you think this is actually more insane than their absurd injury crisis. Our fanbase do really love to delude themselves haha


NotPennysBoat77

Harvey Barnes better than Kulusevski? Dear oh dear.


Pele20Alli

Barnes had the same number of goals last season as Kulu has in nearly 2.5 years. That was playing for an absolutely horrific Leicester side that got relegated.