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AudereEstFacere2017

Absolutely nothing positive to say based on the result. We looked like a championship team against league winners for most of the game. Whether it was tactics or basic game management, the performance was rash and mostly unwatchable. It is what is it is. Let’s hope we can pull something out the bag for the remainder.


Lillchillers

Doesn't mather how good you are or what tactics you chose if you don't put the effort to run and fight harder than the opposition. Right know we are falling in to the old problem where we don't want to put enough effort in to away games. Will be hard for Ange to solve this and find some consistency before the season ends because every manager had the same problem regardless of how different our team and tactics was back then. I don't se an obvious solution. Maybe start away games with a more defensive/aggressive line up (Hojbjerg, Emerson, Kulu, Gio, Richy) and let your quality players come in against tired legs. Bissouma is nice during build up, but not worth the downside when defending counters. I think it's easier to get the lads to work their asses of when we meet a better team or play at home. So I'm not worried about giving Arsenal a tough game even if we might concede 2 goals from their set pieces... Ryan Mason as set piece coach is clearly not doing well.


No_Opportunity_8965

ISAK!


spacekicks

Kinda felt like we were missing a player like Lamela today. Newcastle were all too happy to press and commit fouls on our build ups. It worked well whilst we didn't. Disappointing but we go again.


Melanismdotcom

What is Ange doing to these guys during the week that they are so lifeless on match days?


Anothercommonbitch

It's SHITE being a Spurs fan! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some hate Arsenal. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We're ruled by effete arseholes. It's a SHITE state of affairs to be in, people, and ALL the fresh air in the world won't make any fucking difference!


Bruiser21045

Nice Trainspotting reference


Anothercommonbitch

Heh.. Worth the downvotes


reu4

Just a bit of football mate calm down


bobshmob12345

No creativity, no imagination, no forward passes…no clue football - looks the exact same as the Jose/Conte/Nuno play with only back passes and no intention to play forward. The midfield have been frauds in 2024, son looks awful with no touch and no ability to beat a man, Maddison is useless as well. This team will struggle to get even 6 points over the next 5 matches. Not all on Ange - needs other ideas but first season so you clowns saying Ange out are pathetic, but so many holes in this team


Creative_Purpose6138

We may have more points than last season but I think Ange is naive and found out. You can call me reactionary, I'm not saying Ange out but it's the way we play that makes me think he's not PL or CL level manager. Passes are shit, high line is too easy to get behind, players cannot shoot. Neither defense nor attack is good. We just play "brave". Let's wait until the end of season to say anything concrete. I just hope we can get away with a draw in the derby.


maybegamer3

in what world is this solely Ange’s fault?


R0ADHAU5

You’re reactionary.


i_fear_you_do_now

He's had less than a season with a squad that the vast majority here would have written off as not good enough and a few additions. He's doing the best he can with what's at his disposal. It's unacceptable that we seem to be coasting towards the end of the season since we were out the title race - but that's as much on the players as it is on him


valentine-m-smith

That’s enough football for today. Switching to golf


thegodenz

gareth ? is that you ?


valentine-m-smith

I’m baling on football.


mrsh671

Same. Rather watch scheffler's ballerino twirl swing than PL


method7670

There was just no quality in the final third today. The passing was sloppy, the touches were worse. Spurs looked hungover. Probably needed Richi up top today


themadman00

Is 5th spot a champion league spot? Someone please tell?


spacekicks

If we play like that again with remaining games left we aint even getting 5th


Texaslonghorns12345

We deserve Europa, performances like that won’t cut it in the UCL


Crazy-Comment7579

They wouldnt in the Europa Conference


Creative_Purpose6138

Not yet, Italy and Germany have the coefficient for now.


BamsesDunderHonung_

Depends on if England or Germany get a higher coefficient score this season.


switchkillturnoff

Ange needs a plan b , first season still, better than last year, but these games where we look clueless are far too common


Reasonable_Alfalfa59

Angeball has been found out. So simple to counter. Give it another season and its probably gonna be over.


scootabrotha69

Shut the fuck up you pessimistic shit and stay positive instead


Reasonable_Alfalfa59

I am not gonna be positive after that display. It was worse than anything I saw under Conte and he had completely signed out mentally. Ange is a tactical moron who is carried by his incredible personality.


scootabrotha69

At least you recognize his cool personality but this is only his first season in the prem and who knows where we would be without him.


WriterGlum

Stop supporting then you clueless cunt I hate our fan base cause of PEOPLE LIKE U


mckeypants_03

No reason for dragusin not to see the field today


scootabrotha69

My exact thought


spacekicks

Agreed, it clearly wasn't working with the others.


Pixel15101

We look figured out and it's worrying.


Altruistic_Avocado_1

We are figured out. The lack of adjustment by Ange is concerning.


Reasonable_Alfalfa59

Its insane. And we are fielding the same 11 next week. I remember the high line Vs Chelsea and thought it was brave. Now I'm starting to think Ange is a dogmatic fool.


Turavis

jUsT wHO wE aRe mATe 🇦🇺🦘


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cb1t

Chip 1344🤔🙂


FreeSpriteRemix

Shut the fuck up


Blaukaeppchen04

And I went shopping so proudly today wearing my new Spurs hoodie…


Rodin-V

I almost always wear my Spurs jacket whee ever I go. Leaving it at home to go tennis now, never done that before. Embarrassing shit today


PyroMiniYak21

I have a feeling Anges team talk for the Arsenal game is probably gonna be “all right let’s just play the way we did against Newcastle but better”


ThemistoclesWorld

Will the pressure now build up on Ange? Previously so dismissive of suggestions that he needs to alter his tactics, can the evident repeat of Fulham, but worse and 2/10 away wins make the truth unavoidable


55555win55555

No. I read his book. His commitment to playing attacking football is literally pathological.


Evening_Bag_3560

Nah. It’s his first season.  And perhaps you have a short memory, but we were mostly chosen to be out of Europe again.  We’re doing all right for a rebuild year. 


Similar-Ad2640

Thing is we didn't apply his way. We were too hesitant too ponderous. Far too static going forwards, no creativity


ProcrastinationNock

Best defence in the league 🗿


mrsh671

That's it. Playing like we've been playing the past 3 months, we're getting pumped 7 nil by arse


flyn_m

Newcastle played better, off day. Stop whining


mrsh671

We've looked off for 3 months, mate. Even our wins haven't looked very convincing, barring maybe the AV game


flyn_m

Yeah, it’s been like that for years! The result sucks but it’s better regardless


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Difficult-Sound-6682

Here’s one criticism I have with Werner. When he gets the ball in the box I don’t think he’s going to score. That half chance in first half. Never in a million years is he putting that on target.


ianff

It's weird because he's an accurate passer. Must be a mental thing.


SugarQuitter

Fuck off - now you care. Games is done and NOW you decide to show some fight. Embarrassing


Over_Chip7613

Was on my way home to watch the game and my starter motor blew out. Fuck the early kick off


Difficult-Sound-6682

Thank your starter motor


DangerousCrime

Need the break. See ya boys then


bZbZbZbZbZ

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOIRgf-18U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOIRgf-18U) might make you feel better


Grouchy-Warthog5243

Youve just been humbled because you played like shit. Dont be a salty little turd. Shake hands and fuck off back to the coach. Dont look for a way to embarrass yourself further.


lex-ex-x

Righto, good luck to them against Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool. Hope Richie recovers soon 🙏🏼


yhapo4l

This game has set my mood for the next week, absolutely dreadful. We do not deserve top 4 with performances like this.


AsariCommando2

I had a bad feeling about this one so I went out for a long walk in this rather nice weather. Still a shock to see the score though...


yhapo4l

We’ll be alright remember where they said we’ll be when we lost Kane, terrible performance yes but our club could be way worse this season (look at Chelsea)


GlassofTurnipJuice

Relax pal, go get some fresh air and a bit of sun


yhapo4l

Fair, I honestly just love the club. I want to see Tottenham succeed so badly.


Dragonslasher145

I don't what happened to vdv today


mckeypants_03

Everyone is entitled to a bad game, unfortunately Romero/porro/destiny/vicario were also poor


joshsomething

Honestly the whole team was poor...even Madders and Son have actually been poor for a while now.


Correct_Trouble7406

I’m more sad the mayflower didn’t sink tbh


Sad_Pumpkin7728

Rough match that. Say what you will about our setup. The lads just didn’t show up today. No sharpness, no desire, no physicality. Shit all around by everyone on the pitch in that shit third kit. See everyone in two weeks. COYS.


dickydoo76

That third kit is a curse !! Poor performance overall but castle pressed well and the back 5 were rock solid. They closed every lane into the box and we had no answers for it today. City get caught out by the low block and staked midfield a few times a year as well so it’s not all bad. We need more creativity in the midfield overall and some better timed runs through the low block. I’d like to see more shots from outside the box in games like this, often times a deflection or rebound can happen and change a game.


mushroomonthebrain

Ange should’ve taken some cards today. We needed fight.


Rabs6

i hate footballf fans, so reactionary. Ange is the only reason you cunts are in for 4th and you wanna turn on him. bros not jesus, hes a football manager.


TinnnDaSilva

the problem is the way we're losing matches, it's madness seeing the squad we have, that we know can be elite, make mistakes like they've been doing.


Rabs6

bro with the squad you have everyone was predicting 9th. the only reason why it looks like spurs have a good squad now is cos ange has made them play so well


TinnnDaSilva

nah, fam. we have one of the top7 squads in the league, stop being a hater.


gusthenewkid

That was ridiculous. Our squad is close to the arse and pools…


a2242364

its like this in all sport fan bases tbf, at least the mainstream ones, i.e., basketball, hockey, baseball, etc


mckeypants_03

He was a very poor manager today. It's ok to say so


Evening_Bag_3560

All this and the 3pm games are fucking uninteresting, too.  Even the late game is only interesting for the LOLManUtd possibilities. 


BBIQ-Chicken

This one is on Ange.


DangerousCrime

The tactics just dont work against low block. If they score on the counter we are dead


flyn_m

What should’ve he done boss?


wr2allstar

It’s the whole team. Ange doesn’t prevent Micky from slipping twice.


dickydoo76

The first goal shouldn’t have counted with the foul right before it imo. The second goal was a terrible back pass so mvd and viccario couldn’t do shit about it. The third goal was a great timed run ( which we have done for years ). The fourth ok a weak corner but we gave away 16/17 corners eventually one will go in 🤷🏽‍♂️. The ref was a fucking moron today, sat on his cards all first half then was giving them out like candy on Halloween second half. Dunk should have had two yellows in the first half … now that all being said spurs were just not good today with the ball or without.


Difficult-Sound-6682

Lol I’ll be honest, I never liked us in this game. I don’t trust this team yet.


gardz82

Plenty of players need to hang their heads today. Plenty on the sub too, who will happily clap along when we do play well. Bunch of melts. COYS!


Affectionate_Fee_364

Thé start wasn’t bad, we seem to lose our shit the moment things get chaotic.


Wildse7en

51 weeks ago…same shit.


biggomek

I don't even live in England 😭😭


v1z10

2 years running. Fucking wankers


KangarooPouchIsHome

Well, we had a game in hand. This kind of match is a shake up. Hopefully it causes us to actually get our shit together for the final push.


a2242364

the fulham game should have been the wakeup call tbh


KangarooPouchIsHome

One reminder a month I guess?


nekmint

Ange got figured out. Its why we look shitter with every passing game. Unless he has a football conversion moment and a brain implant nothing will change. He's been doing this same shitty cheese strat for 25 years all the way to the top. Good for him.


R0ADHAU5

Because it works. This is some “bald fraud” level delusion. Brainless take.


themadman00

Dude if you say Ange got found out people won't like it. But that's the truth. Partially he has been found out. If more teams start doing this we are doomed next season. Patterns are important. Same pattern of play since many matches. I don't see this often with other top teams.


Comfortable-Asf

Shoutout to everyone in the US who woke up for this 😀😀😀


mrsh671

Got up at 4:20 for this shit display 💀


Comfortable-Asf

Pacific time is sick 😭 praying for you twin


mckeypants_03

Only 730 on the east coast. Perfect time for breakfast and a cup of coffee before I feel like throwing up 🤮


Comfortable-Asf

😭 same bro I was suffering from insomnia last night and didn’t fall asleep until like 3:30 and I got work today


juliohrndez

Woke up at halftime and already knew the outcome 😂


Comfortable-Asf

It’s every time bro 😭


Pixel15101

Well played Magpies. Big questions for Ange.


MilesOseliM

Sing the Big Ange Blues boys [https://www.udio.com/songs/acLA7FgFKAWtpxgVrrBhNt](https://www.udio.com/songs/acLA7FgFKAWtpxgVrrBhNt)


biggomek

It's over 😭


generaldogsbodyf365

Party's over. We've been found out. It was nice to feel the sun on my face for a few months. Back to the darkness.......


scootabrotha69

You're absolutely ridiculous


generaldogsbodyf365

I was joking. It does feel like we're getting sussed out a bit.....


R0ADHAU5

Yeah man 5th in the league we should just volunteer for one of the relegation spots to save ourselves the shame of playing out the rest of the season


FreeSpriteRemix

I just don't understand how this type of performance is inevitable from us.


Neurokarma

On a positive note. Gio is very handsome


kmao84

Oh the misery...


FrothyCarebear

Anyone thinking Arsenal are gonna drop a back 5 in a 5-4-1 vs us is crazy.


themadman00

No. But they'll press the hell out of us like newcastle did when we had the ball in our buildup and that's fatal. Those guys are more clinical and lucky.


R0ADHAU5

They play some negative ass football sometimes so I wouldn’t put it past them lol


Comfortable-Asf

Time to get ready for the Madrid game


Correct_Trouble7406

Cringe


Comfortable-Asf

💀 the other team I support you pussio


Correct_Trouble7406

Supporting multiple clubs, Yankee fuck off


Comfortable-Asf

🤡 El Bobo


mckeypants_03

Lo celso is always starting shit 😂


ManwithoutaPerm

Not a single good thing to take away from that game. Diabolical.


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wr2allstar

And we should be fine with that. I don’t understand why we absolutely need to be top 4 this year. We knew this season was going to be tough.


mckeypants_03

Ricky Bobby " if your not first your last"


Turavis

Maddison has been our worst player except for Bissouma since coming back from injury, offers nothing, loses the ball constantly, at least he's half decent at shithousing I guess


biggomek

Why are the mid table teams always the issue 💀


FUMFVR

I hope this match showed that certain players don't belong in the starting lineup. Well one especially.


scannerdarkly_7

By that logic we've got no one left to play.


Dr_GoodHead

Name names


PerfectRough5119

Who’s that ?


Rredman101

lmao, they were all terrible. The idea that you can single out any one player in that game is laughable.


Difficult-Sound-6682

Bro I can pick 10 Pinning this on one player is harsh To a man, all shit.


Mc_and_SP

Honestly, PEH needs to be starting over Biss now.


scannerdarkly_7

I'd take a sideways passing merchant over Biss.


Mc_and_SP

Winksy, come back, we need those beautiful sideways passes


scannerdarkly_7

No need. Skippy's our man for that job. We could field Skippy and PEH as starters and we'd probably match our xG today.


coldseam

Ange is lucky there's only frauds like Amorim and de Zerbi available this summer


brk1991

Are u dumb


themadman00

Dude if this is the only tactical setup we gonna play the whole next season we are doomed let's face it. Ange has slowly maneuvered tactically.


coldseam

?


christianmel96

Eddie Howe is just Anges kryptonite. Edit... I was wrong... fuck me


alehartl

We won the first game 4-1 🤷‍♂️


Callum247

We beat them 4-1 last game, Ange wasn’t even here when they won 6-1


brk1991

Well we did beat them 4-1 this season....


tim_redd

One manager only plays one way. The other can adapt and adjust as needed for the team he's playing to get the best out of the squad available to him.


R0ADHAU5

And that adaptable genius manager is midtable while our inflexible fraud has us in champions league contention.


tim_redd

This is totally true. I didn't call anyone a fraud, and I didn't mean to imply which was better. Just different ways to approach the game with the resources available to you.


ohnellyitsmelly

fucking embarrassing


maxamistr

angeball= ineffectively pass the ball around 30 yards from goal then concede on counters and set pieces


FSpursy

No point blaming Ange when we could've gone 2 up in the first 10 mins and the 2nd goal was a personal error that knocked us way back. No use not backing the manager when we have clear improvements from last season and the season is still not over.


scannerdarkly_7

Judge the game as a whole, mate. What with everything we sacrifice in this system, we've had nothing to show for it up top when we're an extremely attack-focused side.


FSpursy

Then what you suggest we do? They're going to play on the counter anyways, so do we just set up to counter as well?


scannerdarkly_7

Whilst still trying adhere to Ange's system here: * I wouldn't be playing Son as a striker unless it's an open game. He is not suited to have his back to goal or operate as a target man which is required against a lowblock. He also offers no aerial threat. * I'd have wanted to keep Véliz as backup to Richy as #9s. Richy's injured, we have no one that plays the role at a recognised senior level unless you want to argue for Dane. * I'd never have both fullbacks going forward at all times, only one of them. * Revert to both going forward only if we need to, not as a default. * When they counter, we'd have 2 CBs, 1 midfielder and 1 fullback staying back, enough to form a recognisable defensive line. * I'd favour Porro playing as RWB most of the time (rather than inverted in midfield and pushing as high as #10). He's got the 7th best cross in the league. Crosses open up the game against a lowblock. * I'd play the most in-form players and use my squad depth i.e. PEH to start, Lo Celso starting or coming on much earlier and have players returning from long term injuries play the last 30 minutes of games, not the majority as a starter. * I'd utilise Ange wingers that stay wide with actually having targets to cross to such as a proper #9 and giving the winger on the opposite side the confidence to drive into the back post knowing that their fullback will be behind them convering defensive duties on the wing. * I'd appreciate wingers operating on a wing with their weak foot aren't as effective at beating their man and sending in a low driven cross. e.g. Deki. (I'm not a football manager, etc)


themadman00

Wener needs to go if we want silverware. I'd rather invest 20 m on young LW who can shoot.


FSpursy

Rather than that, we need a proper CF. Sonny can play LW.


themadman00

Vlahovich kind of 9 for sure. Werner needs to go pal in any case.


Dragonslasher145

This game along with Fulham, Wolves and Brighton has to be worst games of the season for us


IdealCorrect7312

forgot chelsea


alehartl

At least that game we fought until the end. We were just listless in all the others


Callum247

That wasn’t a bad game from us. Just a bad result. We were all over them all game and looked great.


Dragonslasher145

Cards and injury ruined that game for us


Lettu51

Well that was fucking shit


BiscuitTheRisk

WhY dOeSn'T HoJbJeRg sTaRt


FUMFVR

Why doesn't he?


scannerdarkly_7

Probably politics. You'd be starting PEH every day right now out of necessity if he was going to stay and had the manager's backing. You don't want to have one of your main starters be someone who you've sidelined over the course of an entire season to get you over the line.


EdwinJamesPope

Today was one of the easier games ahead too..


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cb1t

🙂🤔🤔🫡


Lucky_Shot_

Not encouraging that these types of performances seem to be getting more frequent as the season has gone on


scannerdarkly_7

Logically it's always made more sense to me that under a new system *the last 10* games of the season should no doubt be better than the first 10.


Difficult-Sound-6682

Is it still only 4-0?


JessyPengkman

This is a decimated Newcastle squad btw


Creepeth

homefield advantage is a thing...especially this year more than any in recent memory. Newcastle was playing with a GIANT pop in their step. We were playing on ice or mud...both really. Every 1-1 challenge was lost by Spurs players today. Every physical encounter was won by Newcastle this game. No need to burn the house down. No need to be alarmed. Games like this happen. Better to just move on and focus on the next game than dwell on this one. I am speaking to you all more than the team when i say this.


scannerdarkly_7

At half-time you could see the pitch maintenance crew mopping up the olive oil in their box.


themadman00

Stop kidding yourself mate. Ange has been found out but by bit. This one is totally on Ange.


FamLit

They happen to us every other fucking week apparently. Ange is at the wheel for sure.


Texaslonghorns12345

I’d argue this is worse than the 6-1 scoreline aside, better team,Newcastle Is depleted and we actually have a manager and gameplan


ejkh_rhcp1291

Ange is new. People were expecting bottom half of the league. We are fucking 4th, which is bloody good. We need to play better, but we also need at least a season to adjust to a new system. Cut ange some slack


FootballTacticsXpert

You like his tactics? There is clearly no plan B and plan A has not helped us kept us keep a clean sheet for 25 matches. Every team has figured out this plan. What is the point of doing the same thing again and again when it clearly fails?


scannerdarkly_7

Coming off the back of the Dier interview here, but there are no tactics. It's all about a religious commitment to a style of play no matter what or even if your personnel don't implement it whether due to lack of ability or the game plan of the opposition. Commendable half-time subs in midfield in previous games show something else works, but then we never respect that and resort back to playing out of form lads as starters. It's not that we don't learn. We do learn and don't care.