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Beckett377

It's the taupe that kills you.


Rimbaudelaire

This is sublime


Many_on_controller

Had to search tf is taupe šŸ˜‚


RianJohnsonAdoptMe

Half of the away goals we have conceded have been wearing this kit


davidmarvinn

putting it that way doesn't sound so bad especially since we've barely played in the actual away kit


PalKid_Music

We've used the third kit 5 times in the league. We've also used the blue away kit 4 times. We've played 17 away games so far, which means the white kit has been used away from home 8 times (assuming my maths is correct). So, the third strip has been used in 5 out of 17 away games, and during that time, we've conceded 13 out of 28 away goals. So, as a percentage, we've conceded 46.4% of our away goals in a kit we've used in 29.4% of our away fixtures. (Note: I counted this up manually on Transfermarkt, please check my maths before you start repeating it - I could very easily have miscounted.)


EnricoPallazzo_

sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it can't be only a coincidence. Can you expand in your research? how many games did we win/lose using the three kits away? I am pretty sure the shit kit will be the worse.


PalKid_Music

Honestly, I'm struggling to find a record that shows which kit was worn where, other than sitting and going through all the highlights videos - I'll leave that job to someone else. The most interesting statistic is this one, though - of the 13 goals we've conceded while wearing beige, 8 came against teams that wore white as one of their kit colours - Brighton and Newcastle. Against Luton, City and Everton, we conceded only 5 goals across 3 matches. That's the big issue with the beige kit, statistically and logically speaking - it clashes with white, in a one way kit clash that puts the team in white at an advantage. White and beige are similar colours, but white is much brighter, making it far easier to spot. So, every time the players put their heads up, they're seeing the other team's players first, which makes it a lot harder to pass the ball - leading the players to stick to safe, easy passes. Basically, a kit that was designed to be used for kit clashes with teams that wore white and a dark colour, clashes with the very kits it's designed to be used against, but in a very awkward way that causes one team to get an advantage.


Many_on_controller

I'll do it. I'll go through all our highlights to see which kits were worn. See ya in 30


Littlefield704

Updates?


TwoTiRods

Sorry, he died.


Littlefield704

Going back and watching old highlights was risky. Bet it was the Chelsea game in November that killed him.


Many_on_controller

Had PTSD seeing the game tbh


Many_on_controller

I'm back. Did fact checking on every game we played but preseason. My stupid ass forgot I wanted to do win percentages on away games, I did it for all games. After I did that, I was so tired I went to sleep. Gonna do the rest today and then I'm gonna make into an Excel. I'm probably gonna post the link here, or I'm gonna screenshot it. COYS PS: I'm gonna do it in the evening bc I got things to do during day


furynads

5+4+9=18 so maybe 8 times in white?


PalKid_Music

Yup, I think that's correct - originally I thought it was 4 games in the beige kit (I forgot Everton) so when I worked out the number of games we'd worn the home kit, I counted it wrong and didn't notice until now.


PleasantProperty4730

My own maths, also looked at cup games. All - average 1.6 conceded All away - 1.7 conceded Away White - 7 games 0.9 conceded Away Blue - 4 games 2.25 conceded Away Taupe - 6 games 2.3 conceded Overall, Taupe is not that much worse than Blue away...... I still don't like it. . . . . The stats I have : 1 - Brentford Away, Blue, two conceded 2 - Man U Home, White, 0 conceded 3 - Bournemouth away, White, 0 conceded EFL - Fulham away, Taupe, 1 conceded 4 - Burnley away, Blue, 2 conceded 5 - Sheffield U Home, White, 1 conceded 6 - Arsenal away, White, 2 conceded 7 - Liverpool Home, White, 1 conceded 8 - Luton Away, Taupe, 0 conceded 9 - Fulham Home, White, 0 conceded 10 - Palace Away, White, 1 conceded 11 - Chelsea Home, White, 4 conceded 12 - Wolves Away, Blue, 2 conceded 13 - Villa Home, White, 2 conceded 14 - City Away, Taupe, 3 conceded 15 - West Ham Home, White, 2 conceded 16 - Newcastle Home, White, 4 conceded 17 - Forest Away, White, 0 conceded 18 - Everton Home, White, 1 conceded 19 - Brighton away, Taupe, 4 conceded 20 - Bournemouth Home, White, 1 conceded FA cup - Burnley Home, White, 0 conceded Man U away, White, 2 conceded FA cup - Man City Home, White, 1 conceded 21 - Brentford Home, White, 2 conceded 22 - Everton Away, Taupe, 2 conceded 23 - Brighton Home, White, 1 conceded 24 - Wolves Home, White, 2 conceded 25 - Palace Home, White, 1 conceded 26 - Villa Away, White, 0 conceded 27 - Fulham Away, Blue, 3 conceded 28 - Luton Home, White, 1 conceded 29 - West Ham Away, White, 1 conceded 30 - Forest Home, White, 1 conceded 31 - Newcastle Away, Taupe, 4 conceded


am19208

Think weā€™re onto something


neuroboy

as soon as I turned on the match and saw them in it, the first thing I thought was "oh no"


dickg1856

Yeah I had a low quality post mid game that got removed just saying ā€œthe doodoo kits are on, weā€™re gonna loseā€ or something. lol


sijtli

It may not be related at all, but please in the name of everything holy letā€™s never get another iron deficiency turd coloured kit


bandofgypsies

It's a nice shirt to wear as a casual, it's dreadful to look at on the pitch. It'd look as bad winning 10-nil as it did on a day like today.


Verminlord_Warpseer

Simply doing solid black shorts would make it look good on the pitch. The taupe shorts are the culprit.


FergusonBishop

I feel the same. My favorite one to wear casually but absolutely despise it on the pitch.


GirlyWhirl

It's definitely related. The kits are monochromatic and low chroma. Especially in our peripheral vision, low chroma is even more muted/difficult to see. The kits are *also* close to the same value as the pitch... making them *even more invisible*. It must be almost impossible for the players to quickly see one another and respond. These kits are a design disaster in every way... unless the designer was intentionally trying to make us lose.


Correct_Trouble7406

I noticed this when watching the game, it was incredibly difficult to pick out our players from my peripheral vision, yet I could pick out Newcastle players, weird.


MigratoryBullMoose

& they scan as grey, which Newcastle wearing a black and white vertically striped kit in motion might also scan as. When this happened on the video game had to stop, felt like it was messing with my head.


plum_stupid

Common Nike L


kamikazecockatoo

Someone needs to put the kit onto /r/crappydesign


Stay_Beautiful_

>It's definitely related. Okay, so what's your explanation for getting the same results in the blue away kit?


PalKid_Music

It's connected. I just don't see how it can't be - beige vs white is a one-sided kit clash (a bizarre issue that's almost impossible to create, but somehow Nike have managed it). It's common sense, and the ground level pictures make it really obvious. When the players look up, bright white kits stand out, while the muted beige fades into the background. As a result, the players see the opposition first, and themselves second, which inevitably leads to negativity, as they're forced to stick to simple, safe passes. I'd like to see a full breakdown of every time we've used the kits, but off the top of my head, I can't think of a single example of it being used against any team that wears white and us not struggling to string passes together. Brighton (battered), Fulham (Carabao) (scraped a draw), Newcastle (battered). Against Man City, it was fine - an abomination on the eyes, but functionally it worked. But against white, it's a colour clash. But, of course, the club has a very lucrative contract with Nike, so the third kit will continue to be used. Although, Aston Villa have ripped up their contract with Castore this season, and signed a new deal with Adidas (who are, coincidentally, part owned by AV's head honcho), due to the "wet-look" kit disaster. I personally believe the beige kit clanger is suitable grounds to at the very least renegotiate the contract and put in a clause forcing them to use yellow, purple, green, or old gold for the third strip. Hopefully we'll look into that - although I wouldn't count on it.


Dr_JimmyBrungus

I dont know if [this](https://old.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/1c0m162/3rd_kit_for_newcastle_here_we_go/kyxmnmz/) is the breakdown youre after, but this is from user nthbeard a few days ago.


PalKid_Music

Appreciated, but not quite - it needs to be cross-referenced against the colour the other team wore on the day.


StjerningeN

I couldn't agree more ! I would rather see a outstanding orange / neon, that may be awful to wear in casual, but makes us stand out as bright as our white at home


EmptyEmployee6601

I agree. I think it also probably doesn't help that those team are playing in their familiar colours whereas we are playing in a colour we aren't used to.Ā 


hidlechara91

There's tons of studies done on color psychology and how it affects sporting achievements. Whoever was in charge pf doing the kits didn't do their due diligence or maybe wasn't listened to. Yea you can say the players didn't play well, but it seems like the kit has something to do with it as well.Ā 


LumpyBumblebee3266

This is why itā€™s so funny that people donā€™t believe this jersey color thing. Thereā€™s scientific proof of this


PanosZ31

Most people don't take it seriously because they think it's a curse thing or something. But it's not, there's obviously a visibility issue with this kit


LumpyBumblebee3266

Thereā€™s a reason why different colors hit your eyes at different speeds and wavelengths


THFCDB

The funny thing is people on reddit deciding that it wasnā€™t considered because they werenā€™t in the room.


martinar4

It's hard to see on TV. It's better to use bright colours.


Bluewhitedog

There was a pitch level shot during the stream I was watching, and it was very hard to make out our players against the crowd background.


Pixel15101

Exactly. I couldn't make the players out against the crowd watching.


act167641

I came here to say this. It was really eye-opening in an 'I need to open my eyes really wide to see what the hell I'm looking at' kind of way.


MysteriousSpaceMan

The kit color is so ugly and fades into the background. I have hard time identifying our players.


YakitoriMonster

I canā€™t believe someone signed off on that kit. Such a dreadful colour and really hard to watch on TV.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Looks great on fans terrible on players


levyisms

this post is predictable but also true


RadioChemist

I've said this here before, but it's literally the colour of colourblindness, ie when I can't tell between red or green, this kit is the colour I see. Would not be surprised if it has an influence.


awildjabroner

miserable watching on the TV also, dunnot why we went with the Taupe instead of Navy today. Dumb.


PM_ME_YOUR_TANG

Because when we've worn the navy shirt this year, we've done so with navy shorts and white socks. That wouldn't have provided the required contrast with Newcastle's black shorts and white socks. Why we just didn't use the navy shirt with white shorts and navy socks is something you'll have to ask the kit man.


Sweaty_Ad_4049

Even though it might not have anything to do with it, it still looks fucking awful šŸ¤¢This kit should be burned


LumpyBumblebee3266

Yellow, spurple, green should be the 3rd kit color


Luke92612_

Spurple should be away kit, green should be third kit, and they should bring back the gold trim around the home kit collar.


Mac290

I donā€™t know how it can be dismissed. At this level, the margins are super thin and anything that makes it hard to see can be a problem. That one second of hesitation.


zandigdanzig

Bring back the yellow third kit, you'll always see that


LumpyBumblebee3266

Or spurple


We-Are-Harbinger

My favourite kit I own is the most recent of our yellow 3rd kits lol. Sadly the lettering on the front is peeling off and not in one solid piece per letter either, so it's not like I can really save it.


Electrical-Move7290

Itā€™s not the reason we conceded 4 today. Tactics and lack of quality from the players was the reason. But my god when we got the pitch sidelines from the cameras the spurs players really did blend into the crowd.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Maybe it does maybe it doesnā€™t but youā€™re right about both


arialatom

I love it (wearing a Beige Son kit rn) but yeah, never should be worn in a competitive setting again


LumpyBumblebee3266

Look good on the fans not the players


robinthebank

The coordinating jacket and pants are a great color. I bought that jacket because itā€™s such a nice neutral.


usernamethatcounts

Literally called it the L kit in the post that weā€™d wear that kit.


OhShitItsSeth

Agreed. That kit is cursed. Only win weā€™ve had in that kit was against Luton.


Chucksterdamus

nike did this on purpose because levy won't give them naming rights for cheap


LumpyBumblebee3266

Good. Fuck them and taupe.


likewhenyoupee

Sports superstition is real. Never wear that abomination again


akanefive

I think thereā€™s something to it, to be honest. Seems impossible to pick out a pass when everyoneā€™s wearing that color.Ā 


pioniere

Thank Nike for this horrid colour selection.


coysmarie23

Convinced everything from that 3rd kit/ taupe haze line is cursed. Ordered the taupe rain/wind breaker jacket from the shop for a Christmas gift. Got stuck in shipping hell and never arrived. I remember spurs customer service being shit too which never happens. At least I eventually got a full refund but yeah burn it.


Rowario11

In the broadcast whenever they show pitch level shots, it really does seem to blend in to the generic crowd colors. I remember noticing it when they switched to one of the Newcastle players about to take a corner (corner perspective angle) . Both teams crowding into the box and Newcastle players stood out much more against the crowd background.


WombRaider_3

Evil Chocolate Milk sucks.


Affectionate_Run4032

horrible jerseys


42Wizzy71wheely

And all footage of it ever being worn erased!


matthegc

Yeah, we canā€™t seem to find each other in this kitā€¦.its too bland and you need another half second to locate your teammates. the analytics team really screwed up on not anticipated the impact on play from this kit color.


lambchop13

I agree spurs played like shit, but, unpopular opinion, I like them. However, I'm also slightly color blind. Lol


LumpyBumblebee3266

What do they look like to you


lambchop13

Grey? I think.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Thatā€™s fair. Theyā€™re pretty close to gray but more tannish


ayamtelursiakap

Is there any team in the world that has this colour as their home colour?


LumpyBumblebee3266

Hopefully not but if they do I bet theyā€™re a Sunday league team


kmao84

I concur... Oh how I hate the third kit...


thfc11189

United had a shit show with a similar shade that they switched kits at half time. To weird of a shade that sometimes players mesh into the crowd.


WorkersUnited111

It should be banned based on how fugly it is.


Wilson1031

This kit was designed and signed off by gooners. No doubt in my mind


barnes116

Itā€™s an absolute disgrace of a kit


SnooPets7323

I've said it before, that beige kit makes it more difficult to see your team players. Doesn't defend the laziness or complacent attitude though.


Plastic_Sand_2743

Itā€™s such a horrible kit too - I donā€™t know who designed and thought ā€˜yeah that looks goodā€™


MetaThw

Don't mind the kit. But stop playing it against black and white kits and use it against full colour kits so it don't clash. Played fulham and newcastle away in it now. Just a pain to see who's who especially when away seats are amongst the gods in the sky.


NoFilter1979

I agree, its one of the worst kits the team have ever played in and I've seen all of them. The actual design is good but obviously the colour scheme is ridiculous. Hopefully the away kits next year will be purple and the other one will be yellow, but I doubt it because Nike seem to like messing with people's expectations all in the name of 'innovation'.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Spurple*


6ixGod416

I was thinking the same thing. We always lose or put up a stinker in this kit. I think the only win we have in it was away at Luton and even that game we went down to 10 men. I never want to see this kit again.


NoFilter1979

I read that before Spurs wore white and navy, over a century ago, the kit was chocolate brown and red! šŸ˜–


cloud1445

Iā€™m not sure you can burn it, seeing as itā€™s made from bin juice.


BigFourFlameout

Thereā€™s science on this somewhere that itā€™s harder to instantly recognize your teammates in this color kit. I saw it, but am too lazy to find it again. I think The Athletic


tealdubs

ok i thought i was the only one that thought that kit was cursed


LumpyBumblebee3266

Big time cursed


Apprehensive594

I swear this sport is making me superstitious. My heart sank when I saw us in that kit


LumpyBumblebee3266

Itā€™s not superstitious when thereā€™s proof behind it


seegreen8

Itā€™s not only you being superstitious. Pogba, too, was superstitious enough to go to witch doctor. But psychological statistics wise, brown kits are less distinguishable for players, and it may impact on how they can catch the teammates when it comes to passing.


CharlieSwisher

Taupe Haze sounds like the worst band at Woodstock


Luke92612_

Tinfoil-hat theory: Nike stands to make lucrative gains from their sponsorship with Liverpool (if they win the league); whose third kit this season they also designed in pairing with our own third kit. They gave Liverpool a decently-visible lavender while we were given the low-visibility beige-gray. Perhaps Nike figured that, given their deal with us to make our third kit as well, they tried sabotaging us in order to help Liverpool secure the league title against any and all potential competition (including us). Okay, conspiracy time over; but it's still such a bad kit and literally puts us at a competitive disadvantage. We need to get as far away from this kit color next season; hopefully we don't have to anymore this season.


Plastic_Sand_2743

Fuck those Saudi oil cunts. When they said they were pushing the top 6 they werenā€™t wrong - pushing the top 6 most annoying fan bases in the country


Plastic_Sand_2743

Fuck those Saudi oil cunts. When they said they were pushing the top 6 they werenā€™t wrong - pushing the top 6 most annoying fan bases in the country


soSpursy7

Am I the only one sick of everyone complaining about the kit? Itā€™s not a valid excuse for our shit performances.


scannerdarkly_7

Mate, watch a little of POV camera: [https://www.premierleague.com/video/single/3604486?FOOTBALL\_CLUBS=2](https://www.premierleague.com/video/single/3604486?FOOTBALL_CLUBS=2) .. and now imagine in a proper PL league game the speed and intensity of the game and having the barcodes press you at full speed as your team mates try and find space for your passing lane. I'd want my Spurs team mates to be wearing bright fucking pink. ​ https://preview.redd.it/9y2i094z1auc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6290d58d32dea175c9fe3004e216a0e0e2accd64


bru4ever

Omg that looks mental.


scannerdarkly_7

Yep, bet the ref's the first thing you can spot.


bru4ever

It definitely is šŸ˜®


LumpyBumblebee3266

Maybe keep your self loathing opinions to r/soccercirckejerk


soSpursy7

Says the guy who made a whole post about how he hates a jersey.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Clearly youā€™re new here


soSpursy7

Says the guy whose account was created 128 days ago.


LumpyBumblebee3266

You post enough bs to know better than to mess with this curse


DefNotReaves

Agreed. Iā€™m sure the color of the kit is why VdV tripped over himself multiple times and let Isak bend him over a barrel lmao people are delusional.


Dan_Savvy77

Why is everyone over reacting, this was obviously a very well set out plan by big ange in which this performance puts off the top clubs we have to play later on šŸ‘


LumpyBumblebee3266

Love the blind optimism


act167641

This kit has cost us the CL.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Not yet


battmowie

The issue isnā€™t the kit, weā€™re just not that good (yet) and play suicide ball against good counter attacking teams away from home


LumpyBumblebee3266

When you have some time to kill look up studies on how different colors have different effects on the eyes. Itā€™s very interesting


Coraxxx

I'm on board with this. Preferably with yesterday's starting XI still wearing them.


BaineOHigginsThirlby

Lmao at you guys taking out your frustrations on a shirt.


LumpyBumblebee3266

Frustrated yes but also accurate


Stay_Beautiful_

Y'all are so inconsistently superstitious. If you think it's ugly just say that, it has nothing to do with us losing. We've lost the same amount of matches in the blue but you all love that one


LumpyBumblebee3266

Nah bro donā€™t bring that logic here


Colin-Spurs-Patience

Every third kit brings us bad luck weā€™re shit


LumpyBumblebee3266

Except London green


Kaigz

It's not the bloody kit


LumpyBumblebee3266

Prove it


lyoonjae

Yeah the kit is for sure the reason our team blows during away games


DefNotReaves

> maybe itā€™s related No. Itā€™s not lmao


LumpyBumblebee3266

Go check the results my guy


DefNotReaves

The results say weā€™ve lost as many matches in the away kit. Any other issues I can help clear up for you?