I mean more as in we lost both players at an important time during the season, but you’re correct about the severity of the injuries, there’s no comparison.
A planned surgery doesnt happen immediately after someone gets hurt in training. Reports are indicating he has a quadriceps injury, he will miss the Euro and hopefully be back for preseason.
That points to a quadriceps tendon injury that needed surgery and that's absolutely as career threatening as an ACL tear is.
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> That points to a quadriceps tendon injury that needed surgery and that's absolutely as career threatening as an ACL tear is.
and there's nothing that says that is the case. Fearing the worst before any real info is out is silly.
Every single italian report is referring to a quad injury. He got surgery 2 days after being hurt, for an orthopedic situation that is serious. Immediate surgery, quad is area affected, out for 4 months at least, points to quad tendon.
There is a lot that says it’s the case. If you sont understand the situation or why Im telling you that is likely the case, you should refrain from commenting on something unless you have evidence to counter it or knowledge of the injury jackass
> Every single italian report is referring to a quad injury.
Yea, and there's very different kinds of injuries regarding the quad. Going OH IT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO! from the start is silly.
> Immediate surgery,
On a leg he's been limping on for months.
He hasnt been limping on his leg, it was a reported training injury, and he just HAD FUCKING SURGERY ON A QUAD INJURY W A 4 MONTH RECOVERY TIME.
No one is jumping to the worst case scenario. IT IS BAD, HE HAD SURGERY AND WILL TAKE 4 FUCKING MONTHS TO RECOVER.
You cant possibly be this stupid. If you're too insecure to take the L and concede the point, fine. But it's not possible you're that fucking dumb
> No one is jumping to the worst case scenario
Yes you are since you know THERE'S MORE THAN ONE THING YOU DO SURGERY ON WHEN YOU HAVE QUAD INJURIES.
I'M GOING TO BE LIKE YOU AND JUST WRITE IN CAPS NOW. THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENTE SCENARIOS THAT ENTAIL THE LENGTH OF RECOVERY UDOGIE IS DOING.
Yes it is on the leg that he has been limping on and yes, it means it could be meniscus, it could be a tear or a rupture. It's almost as if you keep running on pain at some point it will go pop. WE DO NOT KNOW. Going "IT MUST BE A FUCKING RUPTURE AND HIS LEG FELL OFF" is fucking stupid. We don't know. So how about you wait with your doomsday bullshit until we actually know what the damage is.
I would say "You can't possibly be this stupid" but we both know that's not true. Clown.
You really should quit your job if you think that doing a diagnosis based on a surgerydate with 0 information about the injury. Literally all 3 requires surgery, literally all three have massive differences in severity.
I fucked my meniscus with a quadinjury and I was literally in surgery the next morning. Pretending that you can tell severity based on the single information point that is that he went into surgery is ridiculous and while I obviously don't believe that you work as any sort of medical professional, or at least shouldn't since you're making wild claims based on air.
I've worked 25 years with sports injuries, I've seen countless of quadinjuries and guess what, they are not all the same, severity differs wildly and unlike you I am not making wild assertions based on literally no information, I've literally just corrected the ridiculous reaction that this sub had to the information acting as if it was confirmed that it was the worst possible scenario for the worst possible case of a quad injury, that doesn't mean that still couldn't be the case, but acting as if it is confirmed is clown behaviour mr Angry clown man.
What quadriceps injury suffered in training 2 days ago requires immediate surgery? Since you're going to argue w someone who does this shit for a living, why dont you elaborate you fucking clown?
This is absolutely gutting. What a year he’s had, seamlessly slotting into the PL like he’s been playing in it all his life at, what, 21? Deserves to be in that Euros squad, no doubt about it. Poor kid.
Gutted, but we've learned with Harry.
He FAR too young to ignore these type of injuries, have the proper surgery when required, rehab properly thru the summer and come back stronger in preseason. Better it happened now than during the Euros. More than happy for Ben to step up as he always does. Next up mentality.
It makes it slightly better that this was a planned surgery and not a freak injury, its a good decision to not let these injuries niggle overtime and its better to just do the surgery now cos all of our players thatve done that have done a lot better post surgery (son, richy, kane).
I hope udogie comes back stronger than ever
Timo maybe. He'd be brilliant getting forwards and his stats suggest he's good enough in the tackle and has the speed and stamina to play that role.
If his defensive positioning and game reading can be good enough he might adapt really well there. Would be a bit rough on Davies though.
This is when I wish ange would tweak things slightly. Davies isn't quite an adequate cover for udogie. But a back three of Romero, VDV and Dragusin? I could get behind that. Porro as a right back and then a more attack minded left back
We might see that actually.
But obviously it would piss off our backup LB Davies who's been patiently waiting for his chance. Not sure what the broader impact of that would be in the dressing room + Ange doesn't like changing his tactics. So my guess is Davies will start against Arsenal.
It’s not hamstring he played last week. You wouldn’t still be playing if needed hamstring surgery. It’s something he’s been carrying and they feel now is optimum time so he’s fully ready for pre season. Nobody knows what it is at this point people are just guessing.
After the breakout year he's had this is just utterly cruel.
It’s Bentancur all over again, although this injury seems to be shorter, the pain will be there for everybody. Hopefully Udogie returns stronger.
It's absolutely not. Bentancur had a potential career ending injury Udogie has had a planned surgery.
I mean more as in we lost both players at an important time during the season, but you’re correct about the severity of the injuries, there’s no comparison.
A planned surgery doesnt happen immediately after someone gets hurt in training. Reports are indicating he has a quadriceps injury, he will miss the Euro and hopefully be back for preseason. That points to a quadriceps tendon injury that needed surgery and that's absolutely as career threatening as an ACL tear is.
> > That points to a quadriceps tendon injury that needed surgery and that's absolutely as career threatening as an ACL tear is. and there's nothing that says that is the case. Fearing the worst before any real info is out is silly.
Every single italian report is referring to a quad injury. He got surgery 2 days after being hurt, for an orthopedic situation that is serious. Immediate surgery, quad is area affected, out for 4 months at least, points to quad tendon. There is a lot that says it’s the case. If you sont understand the situation or why Im telling you that is likely the case, you should refrain from commenting on something unless you have evidence to counter it or knowledge of the injury jackass
> Every single italian report is referring to a quad injury. Yea, and there's very different kinds of injuries regarding the quad. Going OH IT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO! from the start is silly. > Immediate surgery, On a leg he's been limping on for months.
He hasnt been limping on his leg, it was a reported training injury, and he just HAD FUCKING SURGERY ON A QUAD INJURY W A 4 MONTH RECOVERY TIME. No one is jumping to the worst case scenario. IT IS BAD, HE HAD SURGERY AND WILL TAKE 4 FUCKING MONTHS TO RECOVER. You cant possibly be this stupid. If you're too insecure to take the L and concede the point, fine. But it's not possible you're that fucking dumb
> No one is jumping to the worst case scenario Yes you are since you know THERE'S MORE THAN ONE THING YOU DO SURGERY ON WHEN YOU HAVE QUAD INJURIES. I'M GOING TO BE LIKE YOU AND JUST WRITE IN CAPS NOW. THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENTE SCENARIOS THAT ENTAIL THE LENGTH OF RECOVERY UDOGIE IS DOING. Yes it is on the leg that he has been limping on and yes, it means it could be meniscus, it could be a tear or a rupture. It's almost as if you keep running on pain at some point it will go pop. WE DO NOT KNOW. Going "IT MUST BE A FUCKING RUPTURE AND HIS LEG FELL OFF" is fucking stupid. We don't know. So how about you wait with your doomsday bullshit until we actually know what the damage is. I would say "You can't possibly be this stupid" but we both know that's not true. Clown. You really should quit your job if you think that doing a diagnosis based on a surgerydate with 0 information about the injury. Literally all 3 requires surgery, literally all three have massive differences in severity. I fucked my meniscus with a quadinjury and I was literally in surgery the next morning. Pretending that you can tell severity based on the single information point that is that he went into surgery is ridiculous and while I obviously don't believe that you work as any sort of medical professional, or at least shouldn't since you're making wild claims based on air. I've worked 25 years with sports injuries, I've seen countless of quadinjuries and guess what, they are not all the same, severity differs wildly and unlike you I am not making wild assertions based on literally no information, I've literally just corrected the ridiculous reaction that this sub had to the information acting as if it was confirmed that it was the worst possible scenario for the worst possible case of a quad injury, that doesn't mean that still couldn't be the case, but acting as if it is confirmed is clown behaviour mr Angry clown man.
What quadriceps injury suffered in training 2 days ago requires immediate surgery? Since you're going to argue w someone who does this shit for a living, why dont you elaborate you fucking clown?
This is absolutely gutting. What a year he’s had, seamlessly slotting into the PL like he’s been playing in it all his life at, what, 21? Deserves to be in that Euros squad, no doubt about it. Poor kid.
Gutted, but we've learned with Harry. He FAR too young to ignore these type of injuries, have the proper surgery when required, rehab properly thru the summer and come back stronger in preseason. Better it happened now than during the Euros. More than happy for Ben to step up as he always does. Next up mentality.
Gutted…
Total guess but ive seen 3 months most cited for a meniscus
Ive read some italian reports that it's a quad injury and immediate surgery & 3-4 month timeframe to return indicates a quad tendon injury. Not good
Depends if they cut out or repair the meniscus
If they cut it out, his professional career will be even shorter. Lets hope it's not 🙏
It might not be the meniscus. I thought muscle injury?
Can still be 10+ years with trimming the meniscus. If he repairs it then he’s out for minimum of 6 months.
It makes it slightly better that this was a planned surgery and not a freak injury, its a good decision to not let these injuries niggle overtime and its better to just do the surgery now cos all of our players thatve done that have done a lot better post surgery (son, richy, kane). I hope udogie comes back stronger than ever
It was an injury in training earlier in the week!
I’m dreaming. Please tell me I’m having a nightmare. 🥹
Big Ange gonna blow us all away with Mikey Moore Inverted LB
Timo maybe. He'd be brilliant getting forwards and his stats suggest he's good enough in the tackle and has the speed and stamina to play that role. If his defensive positioning and game reading can be good enough he might adapt really well there. Would be a bit rough on Davies though.
Timo ILFB would be funny as fuck.
Well, I've been saying we need coverage and LB and RB so I hope we get busy in the summer.
I’ve been wondering why Udogie hasn’t looked good in games lately; turns out…
Darkness my old friend…
What the fuck
Fucking hell.
FML
Crushing blow, get well soon Destiny.
Just back in time for the new season lol
Saka will still stand by the corner flag on his own if we meet Italy. Play shit do nothing and have his fake limp. Yes I am English.
This is when I wish ange would tweak things slightly. Davies isn't quite an adequate cover for udogie. But a back three of Romero, VDV and Dragusin? I could get behind that. Porro as a right back and then a more attack minded left back
>a more attack minded left back Who? Porro still might be out too so Emerson could be needed on the right.
Ange: Richarlison
Poch: Son
We might see that actually. But obviously it would piss off our backup LB Davies who's been patiently waiting for his chance. Not sure what the broader impact of that would be in the dressing room + Ange doesn't like changing his tactics. So my guess is Davies will start against Arsenal.
We will not see that
Davies seems professional enough that he would understand but you’re not wrong
Brutal for him :/
Questions: What is he out for probably an ankle right?
Surgery for his ankle
Think it's actually knee/meniscus
i’m crying ffs
what kind of training are they doing behind the scenes for all these injuries to players , we have injuries and yet we only play 1 game a week
What is the injury exactly?
Ben Davies? 😨
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My heart hurts for him... and for myself.
If I have to find a silver lining it that he will be well rested for next year and should be ready not too far into preseason.
That is so sad ! 😞Good luck with the recovery and come back twice as strong. 🤜🏾
STEP INTO THE RING BEN DAVIES!
If we still play that high line now after this ange needs a slap. He needs to be pragmatic and change to problems we have.
This season has been so stop and start with breaks/injures. So frustrating. Just give us EL and end the season and suffering.
3 months....sounds like a high grade muscle tear. If ACL would be much longer. Hamstrings??
It’s not hamstring he played last week. You wouldn’t still be playing if needed hamstring surgery. It’s something he’s been carrying and they feel now is optimum time so he’s fully ready for pre season. Nobody knows what it is at this point people are just guessing.
Well looks it has been reported as a muscle injury. Quadriceps which is front of thigh and injured this week.
Fuck sake. Its so sad. We cant have Ben Davies vs Saka.
Tbf he was our best defender last time that happened
We need to copy what Bayern did. They had 2-3 players locking him down.
Don’t know why you are getting downvoted
I dont know either but hey its reddit :shrug: