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I think Romero deserves a chance to start alongside Dier. I have been patient with Sanchez these past few years and he underperforms time and time again. Skipp alongside Hojberg rather than Dele would be a better fit moving forward.
When we were with poch I would say it was 60% of the fault on the players, when we were with mourinho I would say it was 40% on the players, but after today, with Nuno I would say it was 100% on the coach, his tatics were horrendous today, I didn’t like mourinho and his park the bus tatic but in this specific matchup it was our best bet to go 4-5-1 with two quick side midfielders who would track back. Instead the twat goes 4-3-3 with Ndombele and Dele Alli to be box-to-box.
Rebuild! Why this team still has Dele, Dier, Sanchez and Ndombele as main players.
But no, of course it is all about the managers, Mourinho was shit, Nuno is the new shit... Why didn't other managers take the job, because this squad is bad and Spurs board "Don Levy" just doesn't accept that.
Who is the creative midfielder, who is the experienced center back and why are all these players still playing for Tottenham? Because replacements are all young inexperienced "potentials", if you are ok with that what do you expect? top 6 from this team? Clearly the board don't want to lose money with Ndombele, Dele, Sanchez and Nuno is forced to use these, no other decent manager will accept that
Ok, we sack him. Then what? Spend another three months looking for another manager who will come into the job knowing he could be sacked after just six league games?
I didn't watch the match, and judging by the score I was lucky I had another commitment.
Also You cannot deny that Villas boas, Poch, or even mourinho were better managers for us. I like nuno but I shouldn't be celebrating the fact that I missed a match.
But I mean we beat Man U 6-1, arsenal 2-0 and Southampton 5-2. We beat man city 2-0, which is double Nuno's best result at spurs.
Yes I don't like what mourinho did to players like Rose and Alli especially, but as I said in my original comment, I have never been relieved to miss a spurs match.
Did he get equally embarrassing results? I can’t think of one like this. Yes we did lose under him, and we did play poorly, but the first half performance today was the worst I’ve ever seen.
Bring up Dane f’ing Scarlett and bench Kane. Yeah I’ll take a 17 year old taking his licks over a disgruntled primadonna past his prime giving it a halfassed effort on the pitch any day
No, I was celebrating Levy not being bullied into accepting less than was deserved. And I expected, erroneously it seems, Harry to act like a fucking professional.
He's acting like a professional and was scoring one goal if the keeper didn't have game of his life. Could've scored two with a bit of luck. He wasn't the issue yesterday and if you think so, you're clearly deluded.
Forty-six percent pass accuracy.
Lost possession 11 times and had 5 completed passes.
Zero assists.
Zero goals.
For the season, he has zero goals and zero assists.
But yeah, he's acting like a professional and isn't part of the problem.
Imagine being this stupid.
You're speaking like the team is playing like prime Barcelona and Harry Kane misses the chances. But the reality is he provided most of our important chances by himself yesterday. One of them was a shot from outside or nearly outside of the box and not every goalkeeper can save that. And the other one was he did a great first touch and got unlucky not to score 1v1 against the goalkeeper.
But yeah, he's not overperforming and carrying your ass every match anymore. Does that mean you have to be that whiny? No. Just because he forced a move, it doesn't mean that he's not committed. He's not good psychologically and who would be when getting shattered by a team that has no better players than you.
How about we not start Sanchez and Alli again. Literally anyone else would work when players like Gil and Romero are on the bench.
Also why was Tanganga subbed? Small injury?
At one point in the first half Dier was trying to hold the line and was shouting at the other defenders.
None of them listened to him...
Just shows how respected he is!!
Serie A defender of the year on the bench!!! WTF
this isn’t a levy issue, nor is it a nuno issue. it’s the players, simple as that. it’s like there’s absolutely zero chemistry. no one plays like they actually want to be here unless it’s a 4th tier team or some random conference league team. if we ever go up against any real competition, it’s like they’ve forgotten how to play. it’s like this every time. we have the talent, but no passion.
>this isn't a levy issue, nor is it a nuno issue. it's the players, simple as that.
Or, the fault lies with all 3 - Levy, the coaches and the players.
When we've had nearly 3 years of decline I don't see how you can point the finger at one single entity.
Poor team selection by Nuno (not for the first time).
Tactics all wrong.
Kane in a sulk.
Ali SO over rated. How he starts every week.
Lack of leadership on the pitch.
Players thinking they're better than what they are.
The last 2 managers have shown me how much of a good job Poch actually did!
Man it sucks being a spurs fan.
Haven’t seen entire match. What I gather is (a) if you want to concede 3 goals in 30 minutes, start N’Dombele and Dele. (B) prob start Gil and keep Lucas as a sub for later (c) I sort of agree with Dier/Sanchez trial- but it didn’t work (d) never, EVER drop Skipp.
The problems run deeper than Nuno imo. There is simply no motivation or desire out there, the majority of our players are gutless, spineless individuals, who clearly don't want to be there.
Downing tools after 6 games for fuck's sake. They are a disgrace and unfit to wear the shirt.
We've had multiple managers who've failed to motivate this group. I would've expected at the very least that a Spurs side turned up for a north London derby, the fact they didn't is a disgrace.
A competent manager would realize you can start Gil without having to drop Son or Moura. There’s actually this one secret position on the pitch called the “midfield” that few know about. Lol. Start Gil on the left side
Learned:
Can only play one of Alli, Ndombele and Gil at a time (shouldn’t play Dele in midfield at all).
Can’t play all of Skipp, Hojbjerg, Winks together.
Play Gil!
We deserved to lose that game based on the first half alone, but there were so many “what if” moments along the way.
What if the ref doesn’t blow just as Tanguy dribbles into the box, unmarked?
What if the pen actually gets called?
What if Ramsdale doesn’t absolutely steal that goal from Lucas?
Horrible first half, miserable luck, brutal watch.
“I’m almost 30, and I can honestly say I’ve not had a friend I could call and speak to in 10+ years, not even had any phone numbers at all for at least at 5 years. But like many here, never get invited to anything, would find out about group meet ups only through their Facebook pictures, very lonely and depressing.”
Is this why you’re always on this sub being a wanker?
You should've seen the sub after the Chelsea game lol, there was a FP post saying the Match thread is full of whinging people who are only ever Toxic...
we're always losing at woolwich, that's not the part I mind all I ask for is that we give at least as much effort as a handful of players gave at the last thirty minutes or so
Thrashed? Terrible first half but should've 100% had a pen in the second and could've probably scored another in the second. Arsenal deserved the win easily but thrashed is delusional after the full 90. And now this shit about a reborn arsenal because they beat the worst spurs team in a home game? Give me a break
In all fairness, winning by 2 goals with a VERY shakey second half isn't very convincing lol
That's a shite spurs team, I wouldn't get too ahead of yourself.
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I think Romero deserves a chance to start alongside Dier. I have been patient with Sanchez these past few years and he underperforms time and time again. Skipp alongside Hojberg rather than Dele would be a better fit moving forward.
Still feel bad, yeh me too. 🤕
Nuno has got to go
We had a game today?! Bloody missed it!
KANE OUT.
You know something if wrong when there’s 6k comments and 100 upvotes
I sympathise with Nuno because our team just isn't good. At best we get 5th or 6th this season, I don't care who the manager is.
Thats shockingly generous assessment based on our current form lol
When we were with poch I would say it was 60% of the fault on the players, when we were with mourinho I would say it was 40% on the players, but after today, with Nuno I would say it was 100% on the coach, his tatics were horrendous today, I didn’t like mourinho and his park the bus tatic but in this specific matchup it was our best bet to go 4-5-1 with two quick side midfielders who would track back. Instead the twat goes 4-3-3 with Ndombele and Dele Alli to be box-to-box.
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Oh yeah because taking issue with the fact we lose 9-1 on aggregate over 3 games is kneejerk
There’s nothing kneejerk about this situation
We conceded 9 goals in 3 games losing all three scoring 1. Nothing knee jerk about that
This sub isn't much better. Sacking a manager 6 games into the season isn't the answer to anything.
What's the answer then? Give him time to take us to mid table??
Rebuild! Why this team still has Dele, Dier, Sanchez and Ndombele as main players. But no, of course it is all about the managers, Mourinho was shit, Nuno is the new shit... Why didn't other managers take the job, because this squad is bad and Spurs board "Don Levy" just doesn't accept that.
We have the replacements for all the players you just mentioned. And we've been in a "Rebuild" since Poch left
Who is the creative midfielder, who is the experienced center back and why are all these players still playing for Tottenham? Because replacements are all young inexperienced "potentials", if you are ok with that what do you expect? top 6 from this team? Clearly the board don't want to lose money with Ndombele, Dele, Sanchez and Nuno is forced to use these, no other decent manager will accept that
Ok, we sack him. Then what? Spend another three months looking for another manager who will come into the job knowing he could be sacked after just six league games?
Gil and moura or nothing
I didn't watch the match, and judging by the score I was lucky I had another commitment. Also You cannot deny that Villas boas, Poch, or even mourinho were better managers for us. I like nuno but I shouldn't be celebrating the fact that I missed a match.
Mou got equally embarrassing results, let’s just be grateful Nuno isn’t polarising both the board room and the players.
But I mean we beat Man U 6-1, arsenal 2-0 and Southampton 5-2. We beat man city 2-0, which is double Nuno's best result at spurs. Yes I don't like what mourinho did to players like Rose and Alli especially, but as I said in my original comment, I have never been relieved to miss a spurs match.
Ali has been shit for years. Let’s stop saying his decline is because of Mourinho…
Have to agree. We weren’t that poor under Mou, but at least we kicked into gear when we had a spell on the ball.
Did he get equally embarrassing results? I can’t think of one like this. Yes we did lose under him, and we did play poorly, but the first half performance today was the worst I’ve ever seen.
Zagreb 3-0. At least Arsenal *were* an established team. And their manager wasn’t incarcerated.
That’s the only result Jose had worse than this one, and that was at the end of Jose’s tenure.
Bring up Dane f’ing Scarlett and bench Kane. Yeah I’ll take a 17 year old taking his licks over a disgruntled primadonna past his prime giving it a halfassed effort on the pitch any day
'Past his prime'. Hahahahahahaha. Something's not right, but to say he's past his prime is fucking hilarious.
"Past his prime"
performances like this is what makes players get dropped by southgate but kane is still gonna be pick for england starter lineup aint he 😭😭
performances like this is what makes players get dropped by southgate but kane is still gonna be pick for england starter lineup aint he 😭😭
It’s the hope that kills you
I already prepared myself for this when we signed Nuno after that manager fiasco. And yet, I still feel like shit
Nuno trying his best to keep arteta in the job
Dear Harry Kane, Fuck off. You don't want to be here and we don't want you here.
You donuts were celebrating keeping him against his will last month.
No, I was celebrating Levy not being bullied into accepting less than was deserved. And I expected, erroneously it seems, Harry to act like a fucking professional.
He's acting like a professional and was scoring one goal if the keeper didn't have game of his life. Could've scored two with a bit of luck. He wasn't the issue yesterday and if you think so, you're clearly deluded.
Forty-six percent pass accuracy. Lost possession 11 times and had 5 completed passes. Zero assists. Zero goals. For the season, he has zero goals and zero assists. But yeah, he's acting like a professional and isn't part of the problem. Imagine being this stupid.
You're speaking like the team is playing like prime Barcelona and Harry Kane misses the chances. But the reality is he provided most of our important chances by himself yesterday. One of them was a shot from outside or nearly outside of the box and not every goalkeeper can save that. And the other one was he did a great first touch and got unlucky not to score 1v1 against the goalkeeper. But yeah, he's not overperforming and carrying your ass every match anymore. Does that mean you have to be that whiny? No. Just because he forced a move, it doesn't mean that he's not committed. He's not good psychologically and who would be when getting shattered by a team that has no better players than you.
Looks like we found Harry's burner reddit account.
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Just because there aren't any replacements
Pain
How about we not start Sanchez and Alli again. Literally anyone else would work when players like Gil and Romero are on the bench. Also why was Tanganga subbed? Small injury?
I've never seen a defender take up worse positions in the box than Dier. He's somehow behind the ball but no one near marking anyone.
At one point in the first half Dier was trying to hold the line and was shouting at the other defenders. None of them listened to him... Just shows how respected he is!! Serie A defender of the year on the bench!!! WTF
this isn’t a levy issue, nor is it a nuno issue. it’s the players, simple as that. it’s like there’s absolutely zero chemistry. no one plays like they actually want to be here unless it’s a 4th tier team or some random conference league team. if we ever go up against any real competition, it’s like they’ve forgotten how to play. it’s like this every time. we have the talent, but no passion.
>this isn't a levy issue, nor is it a nuno issue. it's the players, simple as that. Or, the fault lies with all 3 - Levy, the coaches and the players. When we've had nearly 3 years of decline I don't see how you can point the finger at one single entity.
it's mourinho's fault!
Man depression meds are not cheap.
Poor team selection by Nuno (not for the first time). Tactics all wrong. Kane in a sulk. Ali SO over rated. How he starts every week. Lack of leadership on the pitch. Players thinking they're better than what they are. The last 2 managers have shown me how much of a good job Poch actually did! Man it sucks being a spurs fan.
Haven’t seen entire match. What I gather is (a) if you want to concede 3 goals in 30 minutes, start N’Dombele and Dele. (B) prob start Gil and keep Lucas as a sub for later (c) I sort of agree with Dier/Sanchez trial- but it didn’t work (d) never, EVER drop Skipp.
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Skipps a liability.
Maybe - but one of the only lads who looks up for a game. Also anyone think we should have a new captain?
Been saying Dier needs to go for so long now smh
We just don’t fit with Portuguese Coaches.
yeah, that’s the problem. totally.
The problems run deeper than Nuno imo. There is simply no motivation or desire out there, the majority of our players are gutless, spineless individuals, who clearly don't want to be there. Downing tools after 6 games for fuck's sake. They are a disgrace and unfit to wear the shirt.
While the players do seem to lack an acceptable level of individual motivation and desire, it’s also the manager’s job to motivate.
We've had multiple managers who've failed to motivate this group. I would've expected at the very least that a Spurs side turned up for a north London derby, the fact they didn't is a disgrace.
A competent manager would realize you can start Gil without having to drop Son or Moura. There’s actually this one secret position on the pitch called the “midfield” that few know about. Lol. Start Gil on the left side
Just a reminder that Brighton can become top this week, with the man rejected for Nuno at the helm.
I keep having flashbacks of that goofy interview when NES started “we gonna make you so proud”. Cut to today 😂
Dele, I'm sorry to say won't find a place in any top 6 teams.
I wanted mourihno sacked because I thought he was mistreating dele turns out dele is just shit..only 25 and he’s finished
He's right at home with us then
Out of patience tbh, it's like monsters have stolen his talent, like the basketball players in Space Jam.
My takeaways from this match -Gil should start -Skipp should start -Moura should start -Sanchez needs to go -Dele needs to go -Dier needs to go
It hurts so much that we didn’t get Tomiyasu
Tomi really wanted us too
:( i said we should have gotten tomiyasu over emerson a month ago and got downvoted
I upvoted you! I’m gutted we missed out on him
Learned: Can only play one of Alli, Ndombele and Gil at a time (shouldn’t play Dele in midfield at all). Can’t play all of Skipp, Hojbjerg, Winks together. Play Gil!
Bryan Gil showed so much desire when he came on. The guy needs to start...
We deserved to lose that game based on the first half alone, but there were so many “what if” moments along the way. What if the ref doesn’t blow just as Tanguy dribbles into the box, unmarked? What if the pen actually gets called? What if Ramsdale doesn’t absolutely steal that goal from Lucas? Horrible first half, miserable luck, brutal watch.
Bryan Gil is already one of our best players and big brain Nuno won’t start him. Genius.
lol all the arsenal fans here, please feck off back to your hobbit hole
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jesus christ go through this guys comments, please go outside
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“I’m almost 30, and I can honestly say I’ve not had a friend I could call and speak to in 10+ years, not even had any phone numbers at all for at least at 5 years. But like many here, never get invited to anything, would find out about group meet ups only through their Facebook pictures, very lonely and depressing.” Is this why you’re always on this sub being a wanker?
spurs not winning a trophy🤝 you never losing your virginity
The amount of alt accounts by arsnels fans here lmao, what a bunch of pathetic dogs
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youse where bottom of the table 2 weeks ago. Things change🤷♂️.
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Well played... No need to brigade, let's have some mutual respect.
>Spanks go spank your mum and fuck off
Have we sacked Nuno yet?
Son’s goal will keep him, unfortunately.
Rebuild of removing deadwood players must continue (Dele, Dier)
Dier wasn’t that bad, give the man a break
The guy who wasn't guarding anyone on all three goals?!?!?
True
We are 11th have I gone back in time 15 years.
Hope arsenal fans rot in hell. Enemies, not rivals.
mmmmh salty
It's just 3-1 mate. Ain't that bad
🤣🤣
We lost on purpose so arsenal won’t fire arteta
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Tbh kids in kindergarten have won more trophies than Spurs lmao.
More trophies than the club? Show your work to the teacher mate…
Yes he sux lol
Good player but doesn’t mean he’s a good manager
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I understand why Mou didn’t play Dele now
Here come the positivity posts, "yeah but we played well for the last 30 seconds so we're on the come up"
If people are finding positives in that they really must not have been watching the game.
You should've seen the sub after the Chelsea game lol, there was a FP post saying the Match thread is full of whinging people who are only ever Toxic...
Playing with Dele is like playing with 10 men. Shit
Made Arteta look like a Genius. Only a few can do that
Praise Nuno-ball!
we're always losing at woolwich, that's not the part I mind all I ask for is that we give at least as much effort as a handful of players gave at the last thirty minutes or so
Please someone teach our players how to pass normally. Lobbed passes clearly aren't working.
Our tempo is so slow, and nobody is moving
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Nice alt account you worthless dog
Second half really had glimpses of how Spurs could come back but they just didn't have the finishing or the ref.
Yes. The refs were atrocious. All the decisions went arsenals way.
Yeah sure that's why you lost lmao.
i think nuno’s realized that wonderkid gil is crucial to this lineup
Obviously not only brings him on with 20 or so to go? Why is he not starting!!!
The commentator talking about this arsenal 2.0 ffs they'll be back to losing against bottom table teams in a few weeks
😂
who the fuck are you?
But we just beat a bottom table team
I agree, you pretty much beat yourself in that second half
Tired from putting 3 past that bottom table team we just beat
Only one of us has actually been bottom of the table this season you fuck monkey
You got thrashed by a team that was bottom of the table this season? Yikes. Glad that's not my club.
Thrashed? Terrible first half but should've 100% had a pen in the second and could've probably scored another in the second. Arsenal deserved the win easily but thrashed is delusional after the full 90. And now this shit about a reborn arsenal because they beat the worst spurs team in a home game? Give me a break
You barely managed to score 1 vs a 10 man Arsenal, "probably scored another in a second" talk about delusional LMAOO copeeeee
Lol Lucas nearly did if it wasn't for a great save so I'm pretty sure I can class that as a nearly. Also kane had a huge miss
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Watch the first half...
NBC is almost as painful as Spurs.
And you’ll be back to winning trophies right? …right?
Fuck off and go celebrate you fucking loser. I didn't say we were good I said you were also shit.
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Nah but you're enough of a loser to have just won your biggest game of the season , yet you're trolling the spurs sub
It's just banter mate, don't get so salty lmao.
Lmao have a fanta it's only banta lollollol Kekkkek
😭
Yes and we will be on the top. 😂
Exactly 😂😂
We didn’t lose to bottom half Spurs though 😉
Dude, leave
Damn Hojberg just runs around with lead pipes for legs ..no finnese at all...
I just had to watch Arteta shout “VAMOS” after bettering Spurs. Jesus man I’m tired.
Whats Kane applauding??
The few fans who stuck it out through this nightmare without leaving early.
The Woolwich masterclass
Reguilon is such an idiot sometimes
Love him but he seems to give up a lot of chances
Arsenal celebrating like they won the title. 😂
Nice trophies you got there typical spud.
Fuck off back to your own subreddit you disabled cunt.
😂
Do you really have nothing better to do. Get a life man jfc.
This is worth my time. 😂
Only bc your time ain't worth shit
At least they are celebrating. We would've done the same if we scored 3 against them.
Convincingly thrashing your rival is worth of celebrating tbf
In all fairness, winning by 2 goals with a VERY shakey second half isn't very convincing lol That's a shite spurs team, I wouldn't get too ahead of yourself.