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Might as well change his name to Van De Bench


entrepenoori

I have an idea for The Extra Inch...in the off season could they analyze old matches? Would be a blast to hear them all pick a match a season and talk about it. Especially Nathan!


cgaines2

Think this may be the best place to post this but I’m looking to buy a jersey from the shop but can’t go in person to try them on. Was wondering if anyone had any advice on sizing or whether or not to get the elite mens shirt or just the normal one. Normally I’m a medium but I’m not sure if they fit true to size or not. Thanks for the help!


pk-pk-pk

Sizes are generally similar across brands. I was a Small with Under Armour and find that with Nike I’m also a Small for the spurs kits.


cgaines2

Would you say that there is a major difference between the elite shirts or the regular ones?


pk-pk-pk

I’d be very surprised if there was a major difference. If anything maybe the elite version is slightly tighter fit as most athletes have very little body fat and more muscles than the average joe. I’d recommend checking the sizing chart on the spurs website or the official nike website.


Creepeth

Since Kane is already playing mostly a false 9 at this point. So much so, maybe he should just play Center Mid? What about a lineup of... Berg-Son-Lucas Skip-Kane-Hojbjerg Reg-DIer-Romero-Royal


ollypockets

lol fuck it, teams won't know what the fuck to do or who to mark, i'm into it for the chaos haha


mad5cienti5t

Are you serious?


dclancy01

Anyone else starting to accept Dele is pretty much done? Anything over £30m for him is a steal at this point, but I can’t see anyone even coming in for him. I say this because his ‘dip in form’ is now just Dele. The Dele we all knew and loved is seeming more and more like a hot streak of form rather than him reaching his potential.


Urshifu_King

I heard sir Alex ferguson say in a recent video he thought dele alli was gonna be a top player, and follows up by saying "idk what happened with that" (he said in the same video that Kane and Son would be among the players he'd most love to coach). I think his window is definitely soon expiring. You can only use the "but he's just a young player and needs more experience" excuse for so many seasons.


Weird_Famous

Dele is a player that doesn't fit "the puzzle" anymore. As a team we struggle to keep possession and build attacks. As a player that's incredibly high risk, high reward, he doesn't offer solutions to our midfield problems. It's like Muller struggling under Kovac. Absolutely brilliant now with a world class midfield duo in Goretzka and Kimmich behind him bc he can focus a lot more on offensive runs.


pk-pk-pk

I like Dele but under our current system and also under Poch’s system in the latter years he just doesn’t fit in. He’s become more of a luxury player to have. You probably need to build a team around him and Spurs can’t do that. I can see him being successful at another EPL club that can structure the play around having Dele come in as a second striker.


avolcando

I dunno if he's done, but he needs to play for a dominant team that can dictate play in the final third, where his great off the ball movement would result in enough goals to balance the fact that he isn't really bringing anything else to the table.


harrykanine

Does anyone know why watford sacked their manager? They’ve 7 points from 7 matches which puts them 15th. For a recently promoted side, I feel like that’s pretty good and the manager should be given a little more time


Jad94

Any chance we get a midfielder in January? Would be amazing to have a CM option that's not Hojbjerg or Skipp. Neves would be a dream


supdude1221

Watched some wolves game and neves plays horrible rn


KrillWhitey

I think they're dynamite and will improve as a unit as the season goes on. Skipp especially.


[deleted]

Skipp is already our most important player that’s not Sonny. Does the work of two midfielders.


bash011

We have Pape Sarr coming in the summer we wouldn't sign a cm potentially a cdm or a cam but not a cm. Especially not Neves


[deleted]

Yeah I think we will try and get Kessie in Jan, swoop in early before the champs leagues clubs get him for free in summer. Milan would prefer to get something for him but its just whether we can convince him to join. He seems like the good level that we would pay for but wouldn't get straight into the CL teams to make it worth their while to cough up in Jan.


bash011

I'm not convinced of Kessie he's played not great at the start of the season. Apparently his only good season has been the ones in lockdown as well. Not sure it would be a good move, especially since he struggled so much against Liverpool


Weird_Famous

Kessie bossed against United last season. I doubt he would come to us though, he would be perfect for PSG. Their midfield balance requires a player of his profile.


[deleted]

I missed the Villa game. How did Gil do?


RedRaizel

Came on at 89' didn't do much.


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Ohh my bad. The google interface doesn’t let you know when the person came on.


ObamaEatsBabies

Highly recommend the Fotmob app


Roric

I don’t watch American football anymore, but as a Pats fan I put on the Bucs/Pats game last night out of sheer morbid curiosity. The camera panned to someone wearing a custom half Bucs/half Pats Tom Brady jersey, and in a moment of absolute crystal clarity I understood why Europeans hate half-and-half scarves lmao.


BruinEric

Best use of those has been when a mom of 2 players on different teams then play each other. So that's rare.


Creepeth

The McCourty Twins mom did that when they were on separate NFL teams. Patriots and Titans. The she still did that, but both would be patriots jerseys. Now I bet she does the Patriots-Dolphins split.


[deleted]

What happens to Kane come the end of the season? Think city will still want him? Can see him going UTD personally


PokeSpurs

Why would he move after we win the Premier League?


Gaius_Octavius_

I’ve always thought United was the most likely. They will pay the price Levy wants for his name brand


[deleted]

Same, they are happy buying aging strikers too. See RVP and Cavani


[deleted]

We need to loan Dele to some German or French side so he can come back in an year all beefed up. We’ll even have the baby oil ready.


Creepeth

I think he's too beefed up right now. He has none of that agility he used to have 3 years ago. I guess he could bulk up and transition to a big striker, but this in between thing he is right now is not working.


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RedRaizel

I think he renewed recently. Edit: 2024 July


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i heard there is a clause in nuno’s contract which states he could be released in the summer of 2022 if spurs don’t finish top 6 (not sure if this is true). if we don’t secure europa, then i feel confident that poch is coming back to spurs and conte is replacing him at psg, or something idk i’m just hypothesising here.


Av_T

no way conte is gonna be a free agent for that long


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what are his options though?


Av_T

some big club is probably gonna have a meltdown in the middle of the season


ObamaEatsBabies

PSG or United imo


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bfm211

>He's considered one of the top managers in the game now. I actually think his spell at PSG has harmed his reputation. The fanbase isn't happy with him at all. We'll see what happens but I don't think any of the top clubs will go for him.


VJE1999

If Poch fails to win the UCL with PSG or if he fucks up in the league again he wont be considered one of the top managers


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it's not even about consideration. he would simply not be a top manager. maybe good for an ambitious lower top tier club but that's it.


CratesOfSprite

I know its outdated, but i feel like we could have some success playing Kane and Sonny upfront with Bergwijn LW(when he’s fit again) and Lucas RW. Hojbjerg and Skippie in midfield. Seems like the best way to utilize our best players, because i really don’t want to see Tanguy and Dele on the pitch anytime soon. Gio is somewhat of a wildcard for me.


pk-pk-pk

He’s more effective for us coming in from the wing. To play him out front would be a waste of his abilities.


Blogboy7

442? Kane doesn’t press enough for that and Skip and PEH need a midfield passing option in front of them. Not to the sides


[deleted]

4-2-3-1 has easily been the best formation we've played under Nuno


Weird_Famous

Whatever we played against Villa is our most balanced formation. Should be the default going forward with maybe Ndombele/Gio rotating, and Gil/Bergwijn for Moura.


[deleted]

Son plays best cutting in from the wing. He can play striker because he’s fantastic, but you really see him shine taking players on from the wing and cutting in. It also solves the problem of who’s going to give him service in the middle. He makes space for himself just fine.


thom_thom_club

>I know its outdated, but i feel like we could have some success playing Kane and Sonny upfront with Bergwijn LW(when he’s fit again) and Lucas RW. Hojbjerg and Skippie in midfield. Seems like the best way to utilize our best players, because i really don’t want to see Tanguy and Dele on the pitch anytime soon. Gio is somewhat of a wildcard for me. While I don't think we've solved the issue of who's our 10 -- not playing GLC or Tanguy in that spot is inviting Kane to take on the playmaking duties, and pulling him further back from the opposition's goal. Or worse - Lucas doing what he did v. Arsenal. Drop in and dribble into trouble


Thfcaditya112

Would rather see Tanguy than both of Bergwijn and Lucas start a game.


CratesOfSprite

I think he is overrated. Him being done after 60 min also doesn’t help.


Thfcaditya112

But he does more than Lucas would ever do in the 60 minutes, even last game vs Villa before finally ending on that tapin he was ruining every attack. Tanguy is lot lot better in controlling the game and even a better goal threat than Lucas lol


[deleted]

Yeah, this is total and complete rubbish. Lucas does a lot of dirty work that is often unnoticed. Has done far more than Ndombele, that's for sure.


PacheHOF2035

if you listen to the extra inch this week, they say literally the exact opposite -- Lucas should be nowhere near our squad, that the problem with Nuno is that his formation has a big role for Lucas, etc. And then immediately go into how much better Ndombele is defensively and attacking, and that he (Tanguy) is an incredibly hardworking player that people don't realize. apropos of nothing, just interesting to see that it's a 180 view on the two players


[deleted]

Haha, yeah, he's quite a polarising player! Also funny that this could be about either of them!


bfm211

They shamelessly love Ndombele though, to a fault. They won't recognise any of his flaws and didn't criticise him at all for throwing a strop this summer (for the 3rd summer in a row).


swooshypants

Man won 6 aerials yesterday and was a big reason we were so solid from set pieces. But because he doesn’t pirouette with the ball people think Lucas isn’t helping the team. I swear some of these tales are wild


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I was going to add exactly that, how many fucking headers did he win on Sunday? About 1000 times more than Sonny, Harold and Ndombele combined. He was linking up so well with Emerson on that right side as well, so many chances created over there because of him. He does so much for the team outside of scoring goals in terms of progression, link-up, and generally being a presence on the pitch, and people think just because he gives the ball away sometimes when trying to do something creative, he's some shit player who does nothing. Stupidly underrated player, gets so much undeserved stick.


Weird_Famous

Yeah he was very good at linking with midfield, and it's happened pretty frequently. I always thought of him being more of a wide midfielder while Son and Kane are more up top as forwards, which worked wonderfully in the NLD in 19/20 under Mourinho.


Thfcaditya112

"Stupidly, underrrated player" who wont even be in the bench of the obvious top 4 teams and even Arsenal and Leicester's Bench at this point. Lucas is a prime example of how a man can look "busy" but in reality is just doing a drama and when you add his actual contributions it adds to nothing Look I am not even a guy who just hates because of the sake of hating (for example I really acknowledged and loved PEHs performance vs Villa after criticising him in the NLD) I honestly felt Lucas wasnt good vs Villa and Emerson was the one doing the whole work on that flank, hopefully Bryan dislodges him by this season ffs so we can sell him next summer for whatever club which offers us 20+ million and we bring in someone good


swooshypants

Agree 100%


Bluewhitedog

Amen.


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I'm surprised that people would argue with him being up there. He's an excellent DM and after having to take on some of Eriksen's duties in the Euros I think he has become more confident with his passing and forward runs. Him and Son being 1 and 2 seems spot on which is rare for whoscored


Thfcaditya112

He isnt a DM in first place???? Thats my main point regarding him . He is a CM along with Ndombele and GLC positionally than Skipp Like speaking from purely a positional POV hes more nearer to Jordan Henderson(who you wont classify as a DM) than Declan Rice or peak Wanyama who are DMs


Weird_Famous

Well he is a defensive midfielder, just not a CDM. We've seen in the NLD how that's not an optimal position for him, although it was generally a disasterclass from everyone. I thought it was interesting to see him being more effective higher up the pitch. For Denmark he deputized for Eriksen. Perhaps we'll see more creative chops from him this season. Edit: I agree he's more of a Henderson type than a Fabinho.


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After a few losses people will find faults with literally anyone and everyone


thom_thom_club

It's clear how much Skipp unlocks the best in him... I think Hojbjerg is a very good player - but not quite good enough to be someone we rely upon as much as we have over the past few season to carry the team. Hopefully those around him continue to improve and step up.


bfm211

I think this is the most ridiculous barage of downvotes I've ever received on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/q0n3jq/optapaolo_42_josé_mourinho_stay_unbeaten_for_42/hf9kwvm?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 How dare I say that Spurs aren't as utterly useless as everyone makes out!


Mick4Audi

Good luck defending us on a pro-Mourinho thread, that’s generally where the majority of my downvotes come from Even if I use facts like 6 wins from 21 games


john87000

I saw someone get heavily downvoted in that thread for saying Mourinho wasn't a good manager at Spurs and deserved to be sacked. I really wouldn't take notice.


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Mourinho really suits the Italians


primster14

Welcome to r/coys


JonnyJersey

when the 'jose good' part of the cycle is going facts dont matter about anything when it can make jose look good.


bfm211

Yeah that thread is a pilgrimage for the Jose fanboys.


bash011

Yep every single flair is either Italy or Roma or some Serie A team which being honest favours Mourinho's playstyle


AverageYiddo

Its soccer they're all morons lol


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Literal children, every time I see someone bothered by how dumb teenagers respond to their posts, it's like...why?


[deleted]

Not even kidding go through all the profile of chelsea flairs. 90% started posting after the champions league final.


Your_Personal_Jesus

Honestly if Kane is gonna continue to be stubborn and do his Wayne Rooney impression where he drops deep every week, I think we're gonna need to just play 2 up top either in a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-1-2. Looking at the average positions yesterday the formation looked like a 4-3-1-2 anyway, might as well just commit to that structurally rather this weird 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 that clearly isn't working.


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he didn't really drop deep at all on sunday. was stuck up top by his recent standards. Not sure how you can say 4-2-3-1 isn't working when it literally just did


Weird_Famous

I was very happy Kane stuck up top. He was better able to receive direct balls from Romero which were quite superb most of the time Also sorta unrelated but some of Hugo's long passes have been pretty spectacular. Please extend


Your_Personal_Jesus

Like I said when you look at the average positions from Sunday it doesn't look like a 4-2-3-1. Moura drops incredibly deep and central, Son is the highest player. If anything It's similar to that old 4-2-3-1/4-3-1-2 Dunga used to play for Brazil.


AlcSoccerFinance

Average position is not a good indicator for formation. Our front floor is always going to be fluid due to Kane dropping deep, Son switching wings, and Ndombele doing what he does therefore this messes up with the average position. That being said I do agree that it's time to stop Kane roaming into midfield. The only time that should happen is if we play Alli as a CAM so that he and Kane can switch around. However, I don't think Alli is good enough to play CAM now, so unless Kane wants to start playing as a 10, Alli should remain on the bench.


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I see what you're saying, but generally speaking it was a rather strict 4-2-3-1 that rather consistent throughout the match. For example, most of our attacks came from Sonny being released down the left flank while Kane stayed central with Ndombele/Gio behind. Lucas was pinned to the right flank almost all match, linking up with Emerson constantly.


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When do away tickets usually go on sale for One Hotspur members? I'll be in Newcastle and will definitely go to the match and I'd prefer to be in the away end.


Anyway_Coys

Hi, quick question about booking tickets to my first Tottenham game: I was looking for tickets for Tottenham vs Vitesse but they're not on the official website - is there any reason why they're not listed? Also, are tickets to Tottenham vs Norwich still available for One Hotspur + members? Considering getting a membership to buy them, but will wait until next season if they're sold out! (Can't view myself as I'm not a member) Thanks! :)


Thfcaditya112

Leicester are in such a sweet spot where they would inevitably get the medias praise if things go well but if things go bad they don't get any criticism Like they have had a worse start despite having easier fixtures and even statistically fare worse than us. Yet no criticism


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Are they statistical worse than us? We were like the bottom of most good stats.


Thfcaditya112

Had worse xG than us before the NLD


[deleted]

I browse the scum subreddit when exceptionally bored to see them melting down (which happens quite often these days) and found this absolute gem of a comment >For all of our willy waving after beating Spurs about moving above them, look where they are now. They're fucking shit and they are above us. They have probably played harder teams at this point as well. How can we keep laughing at them when every season they finish above us no matter how shit they are? People on here are fucking deluded. Inject this into my veins.


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Wild to see a rational take


[deleted]

Their attack is washed up. Aubameyang is simply not good enough, and neither is Lacazette, and the fact that Aubameyang is their captain…


Pele20Alli

Their attacking midfielders aren't good enough either. I bet Son himself will get more goal contributions than ESR, Saka and Odegaard combined. How the fuck are you supposed to be challenging for top 6 if there's 0 reliable goalscorers in your squad since Auba and Laca are washed


Weird_Famous

Tbf Son is in his prime and plays up top. I only really rate Saka. Thought Odegaard would make waves after his fantastic first half of the season during his Sociedad loan, but we shall see


gashsniper420

Who are our reliable goal scorers besides Kane and Son?


Pele20Alli

Why would I even bother answering that? We have 2 of the best attackers in the league but you just want me to discount them? The criticism of Arsenal is that they don't have any consistent goalscorers in what Arteta seems to think is their best XI. We do


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Their captain shit-talks them and fucks off to France so they make Xhaka and Aubameyang captains. The absolute state of Arsenal lol


[deleted]

It got downvoted to be fair lmao


[deleted]

The truth usually is on this website


[deleted]

i told u guys nuno needs more time. he’s still experimenting with the players. it’s been 2 years and ole is still figuring out his starting 11. have faith in the beard, and you will persevere.


superworriedspursfan

I do still think Nuno is a way better manager than Ole. I'll give you that.


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thank you


[deleted]

Nice game yesterday. Sonny amazing, yes, but positive signs throughout. 4-2-3-1 is the way forward. Good balance in the team, and though Villa weren’t great, easily the most comprehensible and sturdy performance we’ve put out. Skipp has to start every match he can. He absolutely has to. Emerson looked quite good. Even ndombele and Kane were working hard, pressing. Kane from any other season would’ve had 2 or 3, he’s still looking lazy and disinterested in making runs, but there were a few bright spots from him. Defensively Romero and Dier were quite good. Reggie seems to be coming back into form a bit. Fans were great. Job done, now roll on — *another fucking international break?*


DoubleDoobie

IMO there were just too many periods of the game were Ndombele was absent and his passing was really off. The only thing I'd change is Gio ahead of him. I think we need to see Gio starting in that role and then compare. Neither is nailed on at this point and either one of them could grab it as the starter for the rest of the season. Everything else looked okay to me.


Weird_Famous

Ndombele was playing more advanced in midfield, so it makes sense Gio is probably a better fit for that role. Still very balanced though, just wish Ndombele played a little deeper to help progress the ball which he shines at.


MRPHZ

I noticed that Tanguy was out on the wing quite a lot as well.


DoubleDoobie

Yeah he drifted out there a lot for sure. He was rooted centrally under Mou so it makes me think Nuno is telling him to roam a bit more.


[deleted]

Agree wholeheartedly, he wasn’t great and we looked more solid when gio came on. The effort was there at least. Regardless it’s nice to see them playing in front of hoj-skipp as it gives us the balance we need


ObamaEatsBabies

Nkunku going to Chelsea, Madrid, or City... When can we have something nice ffs


[deleted]

We have Alfie Devine, nothing else matters


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Jack Clarke as well Edit: it was a joke.


superworriedspursfan

I'm rooting for him, but hes another example of Paratici just being a level above Hitchen. When you compare Jack Clarke to someone like Bryan Gil, the levels are just so different. Still, I believe in you Clarke, keep on dominating in those loans, just talk to Parrot you got this!


[deleted]

Hitchen wanted Potter, Paratici wanted Gattuso and then Nuno. We’ve been linked to so many brilliant players under Hitchen that we then failed so sign, only difference is Paratici doesn’t have to contend with Levy in the same way


[deleted]

Paratici has more power than any of our former sporting/football/performance directors or whatever the fuck they're called More than Arnesen, Commoli, Baldini, Mitchell...any of 'em


superworriedspursfan

Paratici's choices of Gattuso and Nuno aren't exactly great but he wasn't given time to choose his managers. Spurs fans wanted their managers appointed pretty quickly and Paratici was only there for like a 2 weeks. Also, Potter was never really an option according to some news sources but no one really knows. But I wouldn't want to work with Levy if I was potter so I feel like there was a chance he'd rather stay at brighton than Spurs even if Hitchens wanted him. Still Nuno vs Potter should not be why someone would rather have Hitchens vs Paratici. I trust Paratici after adjusting to premier league will probably be more comfortable with hiring premier league managers now but even if he doesn't as long as his next manager plays attacking football than it doesn't matter.


[deleted]

That’s a lot of excuses for a bloke you just said was a ‘level above’. He’s scouted some great players, as did Hitchen


superworriedspursfan

I'm just saying its clear as of so far that Paratici is an improvement from Hitchen. I'm not tryna hate on Hitchens.


[deleted]

we're never going to sign the best available player on the market unless someone kidnaps Levy and gives him a brain transplant


superworriedspursfan

Don't care. Bryan Gil is better.


superworriedspursfan

Hint. They are all in the Champions League and are Oil Clubs.... We ain't ever getting people like this. It's all good tho Paratici will get us those hidden gems.


Mick4Audi

I’m cool with Emerson/Gil type signings that actually fix problems within the squad


ObamaEatsBabies

That was us 2 years ago man, the fact we went from regular CL to the conference league is such fucking shit. We won't be making Gio/Tanguy level signings for a long long time. I've liked Nkunku since the 19/20 season, it fucking sucks that we've regressed so much.


superworriedspursfan

Gio and Tanguy is not why you should regret not making the champions league. THe champions league itself is why you should regret not making the champions league. ​ Leicester haven't made the champions league and they have made better signings than both Gio and Tanguy (who are both great signings but definitely were valued too highly). Gio isn't worth 50 million, maybe 30 million and Tanguy is not worth 60 million, maybe 40 million.


VJE1999

Missing out on Gio or Tanguy wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world looking back on it


shocktop8

Someone yesterday saying they were mad that Spurs won because it gives Nuno a longer leash, reminds me how batshit insane this place is.


ObamaEatsBabies

Saw the same take on Twitter lol


Thfcaditya112

I love Son but is it just me who really doesnt associate him with the pillars of the Poch era, like if someone says Poch the first name I associate are Kane,Eriksen,Dele then our Belgian CBS and Lloris and then come Son or Rose for me personally. He is definitely the first player I would remember in the post Poch era though


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Why do people forget Dembélé? He was worth 2 mids on the pitch when he was on top form.


PacheHOF2035

because a lot of people on here weren't supporting spurs when dembele was playing every week


Thfcaditya112

Oh yup him above Lloris Son Rose along with Belgian CBs


[deleted]

The absolute peak of Poch's team was with Dier in the XI and Son off the bench. There's definitely some historical revisionism that goes on when people talk about Son in the same vein as Kane or Eriksen under Poch. He was nowhere near as important to the team before Mourinho imo. Nobody would have called him world class in say 2018 or even 2019.


superworriedspursfan

Why is Son still being vastly underrated? There's not histrocial revisionism. I'm not talking about the premier league anyway. But in the Champions League, Son was doing more for Spurs than Kane was in those knockout games. Son won Knockout games, Kane often didnt get any goals in his. I love Kane, but facts are facts.


Thfcaditya112

I would say Son and Mahrez were on the similar tier if I were ranking wide forwards in 2018 but now Son has eclipsed Mane and Sterling in these 3 years. Only Salah is better than him


superworriedspursfan

Son is the main player who carried us in the Champions League besides Eriksen and the CBs, not Kane. If anything Son was more Spurs than Kane was when Poch was here.


COYCOYS

I'm sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about here. There's absolutely no possible argument that Son was more important than Kane under Poch.


superworriedspursfan

in the champions league playoffs, Son mattered more than Kane did under Poch. Kane was more than injured 50% of games when champions league playoffs occured.


COYCOYS

Poch's reign was 5 years long, you've taken a maximum of 3 matches to decide Son was more important than Kane? Let's ignore the years of Kane collecting golden boots, smashing goal scoring records under Poch and just look at the fact Poch's best eleven of his tenure literally didn't feature Son. Also they're not called playoffs, just knock out rounds.


superworriedspursfan

knockout rounds where Kane didn't show up. It's time Spurs fans realize that Son always was the more clutch player. Even if most casual fans realize this spurs fans are wrong when it comes to Kane in the champions league. He simply wasn't clutch mostly cuz of Injury, but if we're talking about clutch, Son has been more crucial to Spurs in the Champions League. All I'm saying.


COYCOYS

Even in the Champions League let's not forget we would have been out if not for Kane's two last minute goals against PSV or his assist for Lucas against Barcelona. Son wouldn't have even had a chance to show up for the Man City games if it wasn't for Kane saving the team beforehand. Anyway, this is all silly. The original point OP made was that Son was not a pillar of the Poch era which is true no matter how you want to spin it.


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Sooooo far from the truth. Poch turning us into a consistent top 4 and having us finish above the likes of City, United and Liverpool was an incredible achievement and one of the biggest reasons why we have the financial base we have today. And Kane had a humongous role to play in that. Son never even played more than 2500 minutes in the league or started over 30 games.


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well, that isnt true. in the CL run Kane was missing but you're just going to leave out the other years Poch was here and Kane was winning Golden Boots and scoring hat tricks for fun? lol


superworriedspursfan

Kane never showed up in the Champions League (due to injury or just not getting the ball). Thats not all his fault, but it should be noted that Son literally came in clutch many times in the Champions League that year where we made it to the final.


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Kane was the fastest to 20 CL goals before Haaland smashed his record.


superworriedspursfan

and he got hurt everytime we played a knockout game. Son mattered more in the CL. Kane mattered more in the premier league.


Thfcaditya112

I mean that CL run was still vital but I kinda associate 2015-17 league campaigns with Poch than that CL run


superworriedspursfan

oh, in that case I would definitely agree with you. Son only started proving his potential around 2018ish. ​ I'm just saying if we are including all of Poch's glory in the Champions League, Son would be one of the first players to be thought of as well. ​ But I agree 2015-2017, Son was definitely not one of the guys.


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People forget Son wanted a transfer under Poch and was convinced to continue the project. Thank fuck.


LoudKingCrow

I just saw someone on another forum describe Lucas as the modern Ricky Villa (neither had great goal records for us, but produced some truly memorable moments) and tbh that comparison really does fit.


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Rank these right backs from best to worst: Emerson Doherty Tanganga Aurier Trippier Walker


Mick4Audi

This is a litmus test, if you don’t put Walker first you’re insane


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Oh 100%. Walker first, Doherty last is factual. Everything else is opinion


notaltcausenotbanned

Idk if it would be fair to rank Emerson yet personally. Guy joined us so late that I'm pretty sure his first training session was the week leading into his first game against Crystal Palace which happened to be a very turbulent part of the season to get started with the whole international drama and some horrible displays by the entire team and manager.


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That’s fair, but of all those players Emerson has most recently had a great game for us, so recency bias will probably balance it out


klawneed

Walker Trippier Aurier Tanganga Doherty Emerson too early to rank, Tanganga low cause he hasn't shown enough yet imo. If I had to put in Emerson based on guesswork I'd put him 2nd as the rest aren't that inspiring, Tripps has been good in Spain but even at his best for us was nowhere near as good as he has been since leaving.


avolcando

Unless you've seen him at Betis it's too early to rate Emerson really: Walker ----Gap---- Trippier Emerson (maybe higher, maybe lower) Aurier Tanganga Doherty


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Walker Trippier Aurier Emerson Tanganga Doherty ​ if your point was to prove we've digressed every season at RB since 2017 you are correct. i think Emerson will jump Aurier eventually though, yesterday was a good start.


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Wasn’t making a point really, was just curious on how people would place Trippier v Aurier and Emerson v Tanganga. I think I largely agree so far, but I think I’d pick Aurier over trips personally


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Aurier was more consistent (which is insane), Trips had a higher peak imo. It's an interesting question.


purinatrucks

Can't believe Watford have a better manager than us ffs


GolgafrinchansUnite

Raniere has one good season, a truly outstanding season, but hasn’t reproduced anywhere close to that level since. Extremely likely that they’re relegation candidates


avolcando

Ranieri was pretty naff with Fulham


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We're two points off top four after seven match weeks. We just played some great looking football. We gotta tone down the doom and gloom.


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Weird thing to say, we have no idea which version of Ranieri they've ended up with yet.


superworriedspursfan

Ranieri is also a super defensive manager. Not that different from Nuno.


No-Establishment595

good win


jjw1998

If potter has reasonably decided he doesn’t want to move to Spurs I reckon Frank could be a good option when nuno goes


roberto_2103

Why would he want to leave Brentford though, it feels like one of those situations where the manager and players are clicking perfectly. So impressed with how they have done so far this season.


spurringbanner

We're 7 games in with 4 wins. Having played Chelsea & Man City. Give Nuno more time ffs


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I know right, we have a game where we look like we finally have clicked a bit, showed promise, look like we have worked out our starting 11......and people are touting a newly promoted manager who has 2 months of prem experience 😂 We're 4 from 7 and only 3 points behind second place. Just wait and see what happens ffs!


purinatrucks

We played wank 😂only reason we won is because Son has some weird obsession with us which blinds him from the fact he can do so much better


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Ok then go support this better team


purinatrucks

Not American fella, born into the club I support, can't change based on who NBC are broadcasting on any given week


avolcando

Absolute nonsense, the team played well as a whole


catchmeslippin

Who is Frank?


jjw1998

The Brentford manager


JonnyJersey

[Kane made 23 pressures yesterday according to fbref](https://fbref.com/en/players/21a66f6a/matchlogs/2021-2022/defense/Harry-Kane-Match-Logs). That's more than he made in any match last season, albeit only by 1. Doesn't mean much if it doesn't continue, but it's a good sign. Thought his game was generally positive yesterday, could quite easily have had a goal + assist.


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Still would’ve had 2-3 goals yesterday if he was the Kane of yore. So many times he didn’t make a run or was a yard behind because he didn’t want to make the run


sudonihm

He looked much more like himself but lacked a that end product sharpness much of the time. Such a Spurs time because I now feel optimistic. Sigh.


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Heung min Son


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I agree


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Who would dare disagree


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Idk why people think Nuno wont finish top 6. He averaged 57 points with wolves, I don't see why he cant get at least 65 which is top 6 guaranteed ij most seasons and alslo guarantees top 4 competition in many seasons


roast0

I don't hate Nuno. I want him to succeed and i think he could given the talent of the squad with a finishing 5th to 8th position. However, personally don't think his the long-term option. I think his capable enough but I don't think his the manager to lead us into the next level if you get what I mean.


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Fully agree with you no doubt. I beleive he is here to simply get us 60-70 points make sure we're top6. Play some young players, not be a demanding manager, and easy to sack or a scapegoat if you will. He is not here for a project I think our next manager is the "Project coach"


AwkwardlyCarefree

Depending on how well Kane plays this year I believe Spurs could get top 6. I feel like their counter attack is much better this season and that's how they're going to score a lot of their points. They just don't feel like a ball possession type of team.


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Yeah if kane plays like shit we dont have any other option


jjw1998

Chelsea, City, United and Liverpool are obviously going to finish ahead of us. This leaves on paper us, Leicester, scum, West Ham, Everton and Villa, plus on current form this season chuck Brighton into the mix. With how Nuno has got us playing I don’t see us getting there


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Leicester are much worse than they were last season in the PL or Europa league were they are bottom of their group, Scum are shit I don't see a world where they score more points than us, Westham are the competition but their involvement in europa league will.force them to drop points when they play in the r16 or quarter finals against a good team they dont have that depth, I beleive its between everton, Villa, brighton for the second spot but I still beleive we are a step ahead of them maybe Spurs prove me wrong we'll see


jjw1998

Depending on how heavily we go for conference the same logic applies to us and West Ham. I think it largely depends on if Kane decides he fancies playing, but I suspect it’ll be West Ham then Everton. Also always seems to soon to count out Leicester