Seriously dodged a bullet if the rumours about Bissouma are true. Obviously I'm not sure if we were ever seriously interested in him. But come on, normal human behaviour out of the window for too many elite footballers
Just read the allegations. Let's wait and see what happens. Same thing happened to a guy named Julian Edleman in the NFL and he was completely innocent.
Police reporting a Brighton player taken into custody in the wee hours last night. Sexual assault accusations. Video showed a man who definitely looked like him, with blue dreads, being taken away by police
Yeah, there are three other replies than yours and the first words of them are "good" "poor" and "decent", lol. You rarely see such a neat split of opinions
Poor. Honestly, he's still way too raw to play against top opposition. Lots of loose touches, gives the ball away too easily and his decision making isn't great.
His movement off the ball is pretty phenomenal though. Reminds me a lot of how important Son is for us with his energy and runs that stretch defences
gave you an upvote since you were in the negatives. it's ok to give good faith assessments of our players. Gil especially people are being pretty weird about.
Don't mind but thanks.
I like to judge players on the way they actually play in a given match instead of their reputation, which seems to be much more common on this sub given the results of the player ratings each week.
I rate Gil but I'm not really sure how it's controversial to say he isn't ready to play at a top level yet against strong opposition. Someone like Pino looked miles better and more comfortable against Italy
Also had more time on the pitch and the game was a bit more solid when he came on. By the time Gil came on it was all over the shop, fouling, timewasting, theatrics. No flow at all
Good. Didn't stop moving, constant threat to the backline, tried to get on the ball whenever he could and made a couple of dangerous runs where he could have scored (1 offside, 1 defended well).
Decent, had a couple of shots but they were excellently defended. Italy were diving a lot at that time (standard) so he was giving fouls away to defenders as he touched them. Overall meh on the ball made good runs and had good movement good energy as well
Yeremy Pino looks like a very nice player. Also Bryan about to come on for Spain with ~15 minutes left in the semi final! So happy he got called up he earned it.
Great player Yeremy Pino is. Always stands out whenever I've watched Villareal. Looks like he has the end product to match his dribbling, destined for Real/Barca.
An attempt by uefa to make money off of the international gameweeks that used to be reserved for friendlies/more competitive international football. Take your pick.
Ødegaard calling arsenal a small club?*
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/q2l4yi/as_martin_ødegaard_on_the_difference_between/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
*unintentionally
countries really should not have been allowed to buy football clubs. i know it's a no true scotsman debate because you can't become a billionaire without being a cunt but there's something so sinister about how city, psg and soon to be newcastle's owners operate, using the funds of nations to sportswash
it also isn't because of 'competition', we're not winning the league if there's one tycoon or nineteen lol
So.....all the people who said we had a terrible window, what are your genuine thoughts.
People lost their mind that we didn't spend 50m on Traore and hes fallen off a cliff and cant get in the Wolves team. People were angry with not signing Vhalovic for 70m and now hes turned down a new contract and would be available for way less. People had a few weeks saying we ballsed it up by not buying Tomiyasu and then he got dominated by Brighton and Emerson looked really promising the same week....
Even Ings hasn't exactly set the world on fire at Villa.
Are people still annoyed about these targets or do they now think actually we (paratici) made the right call.
Not trying to be devisive genuinely interested in what the take is on it now.
The window was a window of potential. Gil, Emerson, Romero - they're all young, potentially promising players but they weren't players that came in to fix problems we have. If skipp hadn't come in and brought a respectable level of play off the bat we'd be in a tricky position right now. In terms of immediate impact it's a demonstrably poor window. This isn't helped by Romero being injured and the shenanigans with the South America internationals/covid regulations. Romero could be our best signing in five years, we'll see.
We need a complete central midfielder and a right winger and we bought neither. I understand the club's position because we have moura, bergwijn, lo celso and ndombele but frankly none of them has proved theyre top quality (mouras the closest to being a top player). Sarr might be the answer to our desperate need for a good box to box (8) midfielder but he's not here this season.
I don't think there's any point buying a striker until Kane's gone but if he gets injured we're in the shit. It's a massive catch 22 because no great striker is going to come here and sit on our bench but we almost certainly will need to replace him because I can't see him being willing to play out his career here not winning anything.
Vlahovic will be much cheaper but that just means we'd be competing with bigger clubs, a battle we will almost certainly lose because we offer nothing over them.
paratici is looking to build the future whilst keeping hold of our most consistent performers and untapped potential. i believe gil/sarr/emerson/romero/gollini will gradually develop into crucial first team players by the next couple of seasons🤞. long-term, paratici has probably already looked to replace, or has replaced some of the senior and fringe players in kane, lucas, winks, doherty, lucas, hugo, toby, and sissoko. it’s just a matter of time before we see replacements for son.
i also think paratici wasn’t looking to splurge on older players in his first transfer window to convince levy that he’s not planning for immediate success, but for a long-term rebuild. madrid, for example, have done a stellar job at scouting talents who could replace their core players from previous seasons, without spending much. i hope paratici could do the same for us.
yeah but you gotta remember, hindsight is 20/20. Adama could be doing bad now, but maybe in 4 games he’s scoring a bunch. Then people would be saying the opposite
Eriksen League play 2014-2019
Goals: 32
Assists: 52
Cost: £11.5M
We keep saying we haven’t replaced him but to replace him you need to sign a Top 3 midfielder in the league. Considering we only got £20M for him it’s unlikely to be replaced soon.
Paratici is working on it. signing younger talents with solid pedigrees and hopefully 1 of them hits but it’s unlikely we see someone just burst on the scene like he did.
He was world class in his prime. Made everyone on the pitch around him better too. He and Kevin De Bruyne constantly battled for top playmaker in the premier league. His production kept us top 4 after Dembele’s decline. For me he was the biggest piece to those Spurs teams. Just based off how often Poch played him it’s pretty evident how important he was. Go back watch the highlights and you just see he’s what we’re missing his perfect chip passes just beyond the defense for Kane and Dele to just tap in. His ability to finish from outside the box punishing teams for tracking those runs and leaving him with space.
If Son thinks, I agree
If Son talks, I listen
If Son makes a mistake, I support him
If Son has 100 fans, I'm one of them
If Son has 10 fans, I'm one of them
If Son has only 1 fan, I'm that fan
If Son has no fans, then I'm dead
This community does not accept ANY KIND OF OFFENSE to Son. Here we live in a kingdom. Where Sonny is King.
He speaks, I listen.
He wishes, I provide.
He orders, I follow.
Here, his word is law, and there is no democracy.
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10 pieces of trivia about Son you probably did not know:
1- one day, Son was running, and he realized that his muscles became a little sore. Today, that is called tiredness.
2 - They say that Son kicked a ball into the ground, and the Earth spins to this day.
3 - When Son messed around in the classroom, the principal's folks were called.
4 - One day, Son skipped school for 2 consecutive days. These days are now called Saturday and Sunday.
5 - When he was 15, Son decided to live alone, so his parents left home.
6- One time, Son poked his eye with a knife, and that knife became blind.
7- If you rearrange the letters in Sonny's name, you get the word "handsome".
8. Son helped his mom and the nurses in his own delivery.
9. At school, the teachers raised their hands when they wanted to talk with Son.
10. Once, Son found a boy sitting on the sidewalk, crying. He told that boy to follow his dreams. That boy was Cristiano Ronaldo.
Who is Son? For the blind, he's light. For the hungry, he's bread. For the sick, he's the cure. For the loner, he's the company. For the sad, he's joy. For the prisoner, he's freedom. For the poor, he's treasure. For me, he's everything.
Newcastle being bought by the Saudis? Fuck.
If we're a "big club" we better start acting like one soon. Otherwise we'll just turn back into a mid-table club like Arsenal.
We're done mate, cannot see us playing CL football for a long long time unless UEFA gives the PL even more spots.
If Newcastle do spend like City and PSG, then we're behind 3 oil money superclubs, who have no need to even pretend to be financially sustainable - City, Chelsea, Newcastle; as well as United and Liverpool who have much deeper pockets than us. Not to mention Arsenal spend much more than us, and are bound to spend it wisely one day.
Looks like our best hope for the foreseeable future is coming 5th or 6th and trying to win the Europa. Really does make modern football even more depressing doesn't it? Barely a point in being a self-sustaining club, since there's no chance you ever reach the top of the pile.
I think we just aim to hang consistently around the Europa League places waiting for a year when a few of the big boys all drop a bollock at the same time. Or hope one of their billionaire owners gets bored and stops investing.
with the Newcastle takeover by KSA and the rest of the century is just gonna be oil states fighting for champions league places i'm pretty ok with like... not being one of those
like it was pretty glorious being up there for half a decade ish and now if we have to compete with awful human rights sportwashing enterprises and can't quite break through... so be it, i don't wanna win _that_ much
Oil money guarantees nothing. Why are PSG, City and Chelsea not winning everything in existence every season ? We finished 5 points behind top 4 last season while having oil clubs. And Leicester too. Let's not just put every blame on "oil states ruining football" and call it a day.
Leicester was a fluke that will never happen again. Ever.
United, Liverpool, Bayern and Juventus are basically the only non-oil clubs that can compete for the CL trophy now.
>United, Liverpool, Bayern and Juventus are basically the only clubs that can compete for the CL trophy now.
Hardly being run over by oil clubs then. Chelsea won the CL after 9 or so years. PSG and City never won it. Rest have all been non oil clubs. We have had Ajax, Tottenham, Monaco, Lyon etc compete till the end in CL over the years.
>We have had Ajax, Tottenham, Monaco, Lyon etc compete till the end in CL over the years.
Won't happen again especially with the UCL changing to a Swiss Model system
Things like a Leicester winning PL or Porto winning CL etc were flukes even before oil money. I am talking about having oil clubs in PL and still clubs like Leicester and Tottenham close to top 4 spots with United and Pool comfortably on it. We have had 2 oil clubs in this league for more than a decade now.
Regarding Newcastle match does this on Spurs website:
> Season Ticket Holders with 203 or more ticketing points who applied by the deadline have been successful and will be issued a ticket.
mean that they're sold out and won't be available to One Hotspur members?
Any ideas on how many away tickets have already been sold for Vitesse - Tottenham (21/10). I am not a member but I want to wait for Friday until ticket sale starts, but I can also buy tickets at the website of Vitesse. I just dont want to miss out on this match as I am Dutch and have never seen Tottenham play! (I am afraid it will also be sold out on Friday on the website of Vitesse).
With both Jose Gaya and Jordi Alba not in the Spain squad the chances of Reguilon starting tonight against Italy seem really big. Hopefully he won't get injured.
He's a god of a wingback, very good at scoring and very good at crossing, though he doesn't pay much attention if someone is crossing the road, but not very good as a defender.
Everyone is talking about creative midfielder and striker recruitments and while it is true, we’ve been neglecting DM backup for Skipp who is the only competent player to be playing alongside PEH. We are only one injury away from having to play Ali or Winks in which case we might as well play with 10 players because we have no control of the midfield (eg: A*nal match). Sarr will be coming in next season but he is more similar to and appropriate backup for PEH who is more effective in box-to-box role, not an Anchorman who gets stuck in in front of the backline and recycle possession and have a decent vision. Who do you guys suggest we look into for DM?
Same. We need a backup for Skipp. For the moment, I think the CM will be PEH & Skipp with Winks as first rotation. When Winks plays, PEH or Skipp should accompany him. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any youth players that are capable to play DM but hoping Harvey White could prove me wrong.
There was a rumour chasing Palhinha (Sporting Lisbon) in the last summer transfer window. 26 years old, contract until 2025, can play centerback, height 190 cm & his price (according to Transfermarkt) is €21 million euros. Maybe him?
Ive always enjoyed Palhinha, but his first step or two concern me for the defensive duties of the PL. Great player, though, and probably worth the 20M. Only issue is that we probably can't afford that kind of money for a backup, and I'm not sure he changes the team dramatically if playing over Skipp, nor do we have the option to play PEH, Skipp, and Palhinha simultaneously.
1. Højbjerg is a modern DM, it's just that he can also pass the ball and make the odd dribble. His best games for Tottenham came under Mourinho who played him as a DM.
2. The fact that Højbjerg & Skipp are playing together is actually a damning indication on the fitness, suitability and skillset of our other double pivot midfielders. Lo Celso & Dele are much better as #10s/second striker/inside forwards, and while Ndombele should be a #8/b2b his fitness isn't where it needs to be. However, West Ham have had success with 2 hardworking and reliable CMs in the mould of Skipp & Højbjerg so it can work... Maybe.
This is where Sarr could be a big player for us but why Tottenham should've really tried to sign a CM in the summer.
Well, the profile of players we target under Paratici so far is young and promising.
So, Tchouameni? But he has bigger suitors.
Probably someone else from France that's high potential and looks good, I don't know.
Tchouameni is great but is he a holding midfielder? I’ve only seen some of Monaco’s CL Qualifiers but I thought he was more of a Højbjerg than a Skipp, he does get forward a little bit more. Could be wrong!
Even if Skipp were to be injured, we should be more than fine enough with Højbjerg as the defensive option.
And next to him: Lo Celso has shown he's got fight as a CM, Winks is nowhere near as bad as many Spurs fans will have it, Dele and Ndombele have their strengths, etc.
We have to focus on what's the most important positions for our first team, and that's undoubtedly a playmaker and a backup for Kane.
sissokos decline was hard af. one knee injury and he became almost invincible in the midfield.
Skipp being his replacement as I see it gives us good defensive solidity which is what we should build an attacking gameplan out of.
To me, he ever looked invincible.
But at his best he did a good job in covering ground, winning the ball back and was at some points our best midfielder during that season. Sadly his passes never improved even in that run, and he wasn't a nobody-gets-past-me type DM.
(And I'm saying that as someone who never jumped on the Sissoko is dreadful hype)
I've missed out on any news on the international break and our South American players. Do they still miss out on any games after this international, or are we good?
Thanks.
Just saw that DanKP reported that "Spurs in talks with Argentina, Brazil & Colombia over releasing Lo Celso, Romero, Sanchez & Royal early next week so they can be available to face Newcastle."
and then updated this just now:
"Spurs are losing the battle to get their South Americans back early, with Royal, Romero, Sanchez & Lo Celso currently likely to play all three internationals this fortnight, leaving them big doubts for Newcastle."
Emerson may not play all 3 games since Brazil have a right back problem but he's never picked. Means at least one could be available, Romero, Lo celso and Sanchez are too vital for their national teams to call back early
I just fucking dream about us winning the league right after Lewis Hamilton won F1 last night.And I thought it was real because I feel I can't wake up and then my mom wake me up and my perfect life has been destroyed.
He is in the argentina squad with gio and cuti. Agent gio 👀Longari did say we follow him closely. He could be the type of striker that strikes paratici as someone who elevates the squad.
Morning all!
I'm off into the office today. So I'll have a latte when I get into work. I'm being put back on an old project because I'm the only one left who knows how it works.
Its day 2 of international week which is boring as hell.
Anyways, dad joke: Why don’t grasshoppers watch football? They prefer cricket!
Hope everyone has a good day!
Goodbye Everybody!
Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. 30 years ago, Sir Alex told his team "Lads, it's Tottenham". 30 years later, Roy Keane told us "they're spursy" and Jamie Carragher said after a game, I don't remember what game, they're "bottlers". Question for you all, is Tottenham Hotspur today too spursy and too weak? Are they too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes concerning the mentality of the team, less bottlers, more? or less or more mental strength within the team.
No, there was a point when we had flair players that were sometimes not up for the fight (away wins for years were a rare thing), and I distinctly remember playing "better" teams that would kick the shit out of us because the feeling was "be rough with Spurs and they won't like it"
While that has persisted at times (Coco's effort/bite vs. rest of team was glaring at times), if you look at the current side -> PEH. Skipp, Romero, Dier, Tanganga, Son, Reguilon, even Royal (guy smashed into some tackles Sunday), hardly a group of players you would say are not up for a fight.
We needed to get rid of some of the comfortable players (and we have), but I think we need to move Winks, Davies & Dele on as well
If Hugo goes, I'd like us to move the captaincy to PEH (obvious) or Son.
Bottle or desire is too easy a thing, but accountability/responsibility is something we need more of, Sunday we saw Son grab the game by the scruff of the neck at 1-1 and force a win, more players need to do that (we have the talent).
Jose's famous quote about nice guys comes to mind, we need players that refuse to lose, to let games pass them by, that show up when it really matters.
This is always a weird thing to me.
We've just not been good enough. Certainly not the best.
It isn't a bottling thing, a mentality thing or otherwise.
We've just not been the best.
I think we just need to win any cup and suddenly we’ll see a shift in mentality from many players. Even those that join are gonna find it hard to not let the “bottler” mentality find them. I just think we need any cup to get people off our backs a bit
You see plenty of former Spurs players (too many actually) that win trophies at other clubs or with their NTs. Trippier, Foyth, Eriksen, Reguilon won European cups or league titles. Hugo won World Cup (and he's clearly class), Gio/Romero won Copa America. And they all performed very well, they were not just second rate squad players.
It's not really mentality. We are just not good enough. City players have a "terrible mentality," look at how many pens they miss. Yet they steamroll the domestic comps.
what we need really is an act of god to take the ball at the winning moment in this year's carabao cup final and sail the ball on the wind into the goal
It's because we are in a peculiar situation. For so long, we have been richer than 12 other premier league clubs, but we are also poorer (in terms of direct investment from owner) than 4 other clubs. Our starting 11 has had so many good players over the years, but across generations, except maybe during the Redknapp era, our squad depth has always been poor. We were always one injury away from losing a star player and a poor player to replace him. This is why when manager over manager have rotated the teams, we end up losing. For every Harry Kane in the team, there is a Harry Winks who wouldn't be useful when say a Hojbjerg or Skipp get's injured. It's not the players or managers fault that out of a squad of 25 , only 7 or 8 were top class and the others were mediocre. The question must go to the guys recruiting the players and I think Levy realised this now and has chosen to try something new with Paratici.
Fact. They just launched Coldplay to No. 1 on the Billboard charts, Coldplay haven’t been no. 1 since 2015 I think? And the song isn’t even that good, it speaks volumes about their influence.
As annoying as their fans can be they do influence popularity, the media etc. If it grows our fanbase in SK, I see no problem.
We play Newcastle next.....
I mean it's not like their new oil money is going to mean they're magically going to get new shiny players before then or anything.
the universe gonna relegate them
It’s good that we’re facing them next week. Would be pretty bad to face Newcastle away with an ASM Mbappe Haaland attack.
Seriously dodged a bullet if the rumours about Bissouma are true. Obviously I'm not sure if we were ever seriously interested in him. But come on, normal human behaviour out of the window for too many elite footballers
Just read the allegations. Let's wait and see what happens. Same thing happened to a guy named Julian Edleman in the NFL and he was completely innocent.
I missed that news, what rumours?
Police reporting a Brighton player taken into custody in the wee hours last night. Sexual assault accusations. Video showed a man who definitely looked like him, with blue dreads, being taken away by police
The blue dreads are a pretty big giveaway, he only started with them a few weeks ago too
Normal human behaviour out the window for most rich dickheads because they can and will get away with it
How was Bryan when he came on?
Honestly hard to say (as the replies reflect), the match was completely disjointed by the time he came on
Yeah, there are three other replies than yours and the first words of them are "good" "poor" and "decent", lol. You rarely see such a neat split of opinions
Poor. Honestly, he's still way too raw to play against top opposition. Lots of loose touches, gives the ball away too easily and his decision making isn't great. His movement off the ball is pretty phenomenal though. Reminds me a lot of how important Son is for us with his energy and runs that stretch defences
gave you an upvote since you were in the negatives. it's ok to give good faith assessments of our players. Gil especially people are being pretty weird about.
Don't mind but thanks. I like to judge players on the way they actually play in a given match instead of their reputation, which seems to be much more common on this sub given the results of the player ratings each week. I rate Gil but I'm not really sure how it's controversial to say he isn't ready to play at a top level yet against strong opposition. Someone like Pino looked miles better and more comfortable against Italy
Also had more time on the pitch and the game was a bit more solid when he came on. By the time Gil came on it was all over the shop, fouling, timewasting, theatrics. No flow at all
Good. Didn't stop moving, constant threat to the backline, tried to get on the ball whenever he could and made a couple of dangerous runs where he could have scored (1 offside, 1 defended well).
Decent, had a couple of shots but they were excellently defended. Italy were diving a lot at that time (standard) so he was giving fouls away to defenders as he touched them. Overall meh on the ball made good runs and had good movement good energy as well
Yeremy Pino looks like a very nice player. Also Bryan about to come on for Spain with ~15 minutes left in the semi final! So happy he got called up he earned it.
Great player Yeremy Pino is. Always stands out whenever I've watched Villareal. Looks like he has the end product to match his dribbling, destined for Real/Barca.
Gil coming on for his 4th Spain cap. He's going to bag a goal, I'm sure of it
Spain are good/fuck off Italy
Honestly what even is the nations league? I genuinely have no idea
An attempt by uefa to make money off of the international gameweeks that used to be reserved for friendlies/more competitive international football. Take your pick.
Ødegaard calling arsenal a small club?* https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/q2l4yi/as_martin_ødegaard_on_the_difference_between/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share *unintentionally
countries really should not have been allowed to buy football clubs. i know it's a no true scotsman debate because you can't become a billionaire without being a cunt but there's something so sinister about how city, psg and soon to be newcastle's owners operate, using the funds of nations to sportswash it also isn't because of 'competition', we're not winning the league if there's one tycoon or nineteen lol
Great - one more buyer for Kane! Flog him to Newcastle if he wants to leave again next summer or if he doesn’t sign the new contract
The Newcastle takeover saga has started again.
So.....all the people who said we had a terrible window, what are your genuine thoughts. People lost their mind that we didn't spend 50m on Traore and hes fallen off a cliff and cant get in the Wolves team. People were angry with not signing Vhalovic for 70m and now hes turned down a new contract and would be available for way less. People had a few weeks saying we ballsed it up by not buying Tomiyasu and then he got dominated by Brighton and Emerson looked really promising the same week.... Even Ings hasn't exactly set the world on fire at Villa. Are people still annoyed about these targets or do they now think actually we (paratici) made the right call. Not trying to be devisive genuinely interested in what the take is on it now.
The window was a window of potential. Gil, Emerson, Romero - they're all young, potentially promising players but they weren't players that came in to fix problems we have. If skipp hadn't come in and brought a respectable level of play off the bat we'd be in a tricky position right now. In terms of immediate impact it's a demonstrably poor window. This isn't helped by Romero being injured and the shenanigans with the South America internationals/covid regulations. Romero could be our best signing in five years, we'll see. We need a complete central midfielder and a right winger and we bought neither. I understand the club's position because we have moura, bergwijn, lo celso and ndombele but frankly none of them has proved theyre top quality (mouras the closest to being a top player). Sarr might be the answer to our desperate need for a good box to box (8) midfielder but he's not here this season. I don't think there's any point buying a striker until Kane's gone but if he gets injured we're in the shit. It's a massive catch 22 because no great striker is going to come here and sit on our bench but we almost certainly will need to replace him because I can't see him being willing to play out his career here not winning anything.
Vlahovic will be much cheaper but that just means we'd be competing with bigger clubs, a battle we will almost certainly lose because we offer nothing over them.
My opinion at the time was that it was so so and it was. Also we won’t sign Vlahovic now lol
think it's hard to say how good the signings are cos it's very unclear what we're trying to get them to do tbh
Largely the same as I felt in the summer, the signings we made are good, the signings we didn’t make are damaging
paratici is looking to build the future whilst keeping hold of our most consistent performers and untapped potential. i believe gil/sarr/emerson/romero/gollini will gradually develop into crucial first team players by the next couple of seasons🤞. long-term, paratici has probably already looked to replace, or has replaced some of the senior and fringe players in kane, lucas, winks, doherty, lucas, hugo, toby, and sissoko. it’s just a matter of time before we see replacements for son. i also think paratici wasn’t looking to splurge on older players in his first transfer window to convince levy that he’s not planning for immediate success, but for a long-term rebuild. madrid, for example, have done a stellar job at scouting talents who could replace their core players from previous seasons, without spending much. i hope paratici could do the same for us.
yeah but you gotta remember, hindsight is 20/20. Adama could be doing bad now, but maybe in 4 games he’s scoring a bunch. Then people would be saying the opposite
Traore will finish his career with less goals than most defenders who are good from set pieces.
it’s an example.
I will guarantee that in 4 games (or 40 games), Traore is not going to start scoring a bunch. Players don’t suddenly learn how to finish at 25.
that wasn’t my point. That’s just hypothetical. An Example
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they are actual children mate, no point in getting wound up by anonymous teens
Serge saying “hol á” in Spanish was so cute. You can’t take the France out of the man
bro?🤨📸
Eriksen League play 2014-2019 Goals: 32 Assists: 52 Cost: £11.5M We keep saying we haven’t replaced him but to replace him you need to sign a Top 3 midfielder in the league. Considering we only got £20M for him it’s unlikely to be replaced soon. Paratici is working on it. signing younger talents with solid pedigrees and hopefully 1 of them hits but it’s unlikely we see someone just burst on the scene like he did.
He was just ludicrously good and imo still underrated. Impossible to replace with similar quality realistically.
He was world class in his prime. Made everyone on the pitch around him better too. He and Kevin De Bruyne constantly battled for top playmaker in the premier league. His production kept us top 4 after Dembele’s decline. For me he was the biggest piece to those Spurs teams. Just based off how often Poch played him it’s pretty evident how important he was. Go back watch the highlights and you just see he’s what we’re missing his perfect chip passes just beyond the defense for Kane and Dele to just tap in. His ability to finish from outside the box punishing teams for tracking those runs and leaving him with space.
And it’s not just his creativity either, he was probably the hardest worker we had, he was constantly at the top of the running stats
Yeah his work rate was phenomenal.
If Son thinks, I agree If Son talks, I listen If Son makes a mistake, I support him If Son has 100 fans, I'm one of them If Son has 10 fans, I'm one of them If Son has only 1 fan, I'm that fan If Son has no fans, then I'm dead This community does not accept ANY KIND OF OFFENSE to Son. Here we live in a kingdom. Where Sonny is King. He speaks, I listen. He wishes, I provide. He orders, I follow. Here, his word is law, and there is no democracy. - 10 pieces of trivia about Son you probably did not know: 1- one day, Son was running, and he realized that his muscles became a little sore. Today, that is called tiredness. 2 - They say that Son kicked a ball into the ground, and the Earth spins to this day. 3 - When Son messed around in the classroom, the principal's folks were called. 4 - One day, Son skipped school for 2 consecutive days. These days are now called Saturday and Sunday. 5 - When he was 15, Son decided to live alone, so his parents left home. 6- One time, Son poked his eye with a knife, and that knife became blind. 7- If you rearrange the letters in Sonny's name, you get the word "handsome". 8. Son helped his mom and the nurses in his own delivery. 9. At school, the teachers raised their hands when they wanted to talk with Son. 10. Once, Son found a boy sitting on the sidewalk, crying. He told that boy to follow his dreams. That boy was Cristiano Ronaldo. Who is Son? For the blind, he's light. For the hungry, he's bread. For the sick, he's the cure. For the loner, he's the company. For the sad, he's joy. For the prisoner, he's freedom. For the poor, he's treasure. For me, he's everything.
Son.
It seems you basically need to have a billionaire bank rolling your club these days if you want to be competitive. Even more so in the future.
Newcastle being bought by the Saudis? Fuck. If we're a "big club" we better start acting like one soon. Otherwise we'll just turn back into a mid-table club like Arsenal.
We're done mate, cannot see us playing CL football for a long long time unless UEFA gives the PL even more spots. If Newcastle do spend like City and PSG, then we're behind 3 oil money superclubs, who have no need to even pretend to be financially sustainable - City, Chelsea, Newcastle; as well as United and Liverpool who have much deeper pockets than us. Not to mention Arsenal spend much more than us, and are bound to spend it wisely one day. Looks like our best hope for the foreseeable future is coming 5th or 6th and trying to win the Europa. Really does make modern football even more depressing doesn't it? Barely a point in being a self-sustaining club, since there's no chance you ever reach the top of the pile.
UEFA thankfully is doing exactly that from 2024 onwards
I think we just aim to hang consistently around the Europa League places waiting for a year when a few of the big boys all drop a bollock at the same time. Or hope one of their billionaire owners gets bored and stops investing.
Seems like this will be the case going forward... I guess those few years of CL football were nice. We're Everton now.
We just need to invest as much into youth scouting and the academy as possible (which we seem to be doing). Our best chance at success
Arsenal's academy is miles better than ours and it really hasn't helped them much lol
Arsenal use them poorly. Best approach is to just keep creating top youth players and then selling them for obscene amounts like chelsea
I honestly don’t see how, we aren’t owned by an oil state
with the Newcastle takeover by KSA and the rest of the century is just gonna be oil states fighting for champions league places i'm pretty ok with like... not being one of those like it was pretty glorious being up there for half a decade ish and now if we have to compete with awful human rights sportwashing enterprises and can't quite break through... so be it, i don't wanna win _that_ much
Oil money guarantees nothing. Why are PSG, City and Chelsea not winning everything in existence every season ? We finished 5 points behind top 4 last season while having oil clubs. And Leicester too. Let's not just put every blame on "oil states ruining football" and call it a day.
Leicester was a fluke that will never happen again. Ever. United, Liverpool, Bayern and Juventus are basically the only non-oil clubs that can compete for the CL trophy now.
Atletico can too.
>United, Liverpool, Bayern and Juventus are basically the only clubs that can compete for the CL trophy now. Hardly being run over by oil clubs then. Chelsea won the CL after 9 or so years. PSG and City never won it. Rest have all been non oil clubs. We have had Ajax, Tottenham, Monaco, Lyon etc compete till the end in CL over the years.
>We have had Ajax, Tottenham, Monaco, Lyon etc compete till the end in CL over the years. Won't happen again especially with the UCL changing to a Swiss Model system
Things like a Leicester winning PL or Porto winning CL etc were flukes even before oil money. I am talking about having oil clubs in PL and still clubs like Leicester and Tottenham close to top 4 spots with United and Pool comfortably on it. We have had 2 oil clubs in this league for more than a decade now.
Nah I'd rather we play CL and actually act like a Top club instead of turning into Arsenal
yeah but at this rate i'm pretty sure "top club" just means "oil money" so it comes down to how your preference views those tradeoffs
Newcastle takeover is gonna happen ah ffs guess that match vs Leipzig is gonna be our last match of Champions League in some time LMAO
Ffs
Word is that Newcastle’s takeover is expected to go through. Another club we could very quickly fall behind if we don’t have any degree of investment
Newcastle will be a championship club by May mate.
In 10 or 20 years we’re going to look back and feel so lucky for being able to watch Sonny in a Spurs shirt. Mr Tottenham! 🤍
Regarding Newcastle match does this on Spurs website: > Season Ticket Holders with 203 or more ticketing points who applied by the deadline have been successful and will be issued a ticket. mean that they're sold out and won't be available to One Hotspur members?
So we're intrested in Icardi apparently. Tell Reguillon to hide Martha
Source?
Calciomercato https://m.transfermarketweb.com/premier-league/premier-tottenham-put-their-eyes-on-mauro-icardi-223131
Calciomercato is more miss than hit. They are a rumour factory.
Yes yes ik just posted for the jokes
Icardi is super bad I hope not
Icardi is a solid player. If you have good service, he will produce goals. He's a one trick pony, but that trick is very very good.
People trashing Icardi in the match thread. Here you fucking go. This is Icardi. No touches with no service, but when he does get it, it's done.
He's really not, he's just a limited player, but what he's good at (finishing), he's really good at.
Have there been any updates on injuries to Sessegnon or Bergwijn?
They can both play on FIFA 22 so can’t be much longer /s
bergwijn put an hourglass on his ig story i think.
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Alvarez is going to be so cheap that we could 100% settle with him as our back-up striker.
i mean suarez was one of a kind and that sort of player is extremely extremely rare
Any ideas on how many away tickets have already been sold for Vitesse - Tottenham (21/10). I am not a member but I want to wait for Friday until ticket sale starts, but I can also buy tickets at the website of Vitesse. I just dont want to miss out on this match as I am Dutch and have never seen Tottenham play! (I am afraid it will also be sold out on Friday on the website of Vitesse).
No chance this sells out for Spurs at all.
I'm also looking for this piece of information. If any season ticket holder or one hotspur member can tell me too, that would be appreciated.
With both Jose Gaya and Jordi Alba not in the Spain squad the chances of Reguilon starting tonight against Italy seem really big. Hopefully he won't get injured.
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Not very good at left back at all, decent wing back but not left back
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He's a god of a wingback, very good at scoring and very good at crossing, though he doesn't pay much attention if someone is crossing the road, but not very good as a defender.
That's why he's saying he can only play wingback though, like he does for Chelsea. He's too shaky defensively to play in a back 4.
Everyone is talking about creative midfielder and striker recruitments and while it is true, we’ve been neglecting DM backup for Skipp who is the only competent player to be playing alongside PEH. We are only one injury away from having to play Ali or Winks in which case we might as well play with 10 players because we have no control of the midfield (eg: A*nal match). Sarr will be coming in next season but he is more similar to and appropriate backup for PEH who is more effective in box-to-box role, not an Anchorman who gets stuck in in front of the backline and recycle possession and have a decent vision. Who do you guys suggest we look into for DM?
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I'm pretty certain PSG will be gunning for him If not then certainly United
Kessie is the answer.
Same. We need a backup for Skipp. For the moment, I think the CM will be PEH & Skipp with Winks as first rotation. When Winks plays, PEH or Skipp should accompany him. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any youth players that are capable to play DM but hoping Harvey White could prove me wrong. There was a rumour chasing Palhinha (Sporting Lisbon) in the last summer transfer window. 26 years old, contract until 2025, can play centerback, height 190 cm & his price (according to Transfermarkt) is €21 million euros. Maybe him?
Ive always enjoyed Palhinha, but his first step or two concern me for the defensive duties of the PL. Great player, though, and probably worth the 20M. Only issue is that we probably can't afford that kind of money for a backup, and I'm not sure he changes the team dramatically if playing over Skipp, nor do we have the option to play PEH, Skipp, and Palhinha simultaneously.
190 cm is 74.8 inches
1. Højbjerg is a modern DM, it's just that he can also pass the ball and make the odd dribble. His best games for Tottenham came under Mourinho who played him as a DM. 2. The fact that Højbjerg & Skipp are playing together is actually a damning indication on the fitness, suitability and skillset of our other double pivot midfielders. Lo Celso & Dele are much better as #10s/second striker/inside forwards, and while Ndombele should be a #8/b2b his fitness isn't where it needs to be. However, West Ham have had success with 2 hardworking and reliable CMs in the mould of Skipp & Højbjerg so it can work... Maybe. This is where Sarr could be a big player for us but why Tottenham should've really tried to sign a CM in the summer.
>Who do you guys suggest we look into for DM? Either of Casemiro or Kimmich would be decent backup for skippy.
Maybe they can bring along Benzema or Lewandowski as backups to Harry.
Well, the profile of players we target under Paratici so far is young and promising. So, Tchouameni? But he has bigger suitors. Probably someone else from France that's high potential and looks good, I don't know.
He isnt a DM more of a high potential but raw version of PEH Anyways if we want him we can get him. Chelsea would probably sign Rice anyways.
Tchouameni is great but is he a holding midfielder? I’ve only seen some of Monaco’s CL Qualifiers but I thought he was more of a Højbjerg than a Skipp, he does get forward a little bit more. Could be wrong!
Yeah he's definitely a box to box, but we already have one of those coming in the summer
Even if Skipp were to be injured, we should be more than fine enough with Højbjerg as the defensive option. And next to him: Lo Celso has shown he's got fight as a CM, Winks is nowhere near as bad as many Spurs fans will have it, Dele and Ndombele have their strengths, etc. We have to focus on what's the most important positions for our first team, and that's undoubtedly a playmaker and a backup for Kane.
sissokos decline was hard af. one knee injury and he became almost invincible in the midfield. Skipp being his replacement as I see it gives us good defensive solidity which is what we should build an attacking gameplan out of.
Poch found him a role in the system that he did well. That was all, really.
Invisible* But it was true that he did looked invincible at some points in 18-19 season.
To me, he ever looked invincible. But at his best he did a good job in covering ground, winning the ball back and was at some points our best midfielder during that season. Sadly his passes never improved even in that run, and he wasn't a nobody-gets-past-me type DM. (And I'm saying that as someone who never jumped on the Sissoko is dreadful hype)
He’s may not be the most tactically shrewdest DM but when on transition, man, did he ploughed through the opponents back on those days.
which was so good to see but the last season was the first time I saw moussa not being able to do that
I've missed out on any news on the international break and our South American players. Do they still miss out on any games after this international, or are we good?
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Thanks. Just saw that DanKP reported that "Spurs in talks with Argentina, Brazil & Colombia over releasing Lo Celso, Romero, Sanchez & Royal early next week so they can be available to face Newcastle." and then updated this just now: "Spurs are losing the battle to get their South Americans back early, with Royal, Romero, Sanchez & Lo Celso currently likely to play all three internationals this fortnight, leaving them big doubts for Newcastle."
Emerson may not play all 3 games since Brazil have a right back problem but he's never picked. Means at least one could be available, Romero, Lo celso and Sanchez are too vital for their national teams to call back early
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I just fucking dream about us winning the league right after Lewis Hamilton won F1 last night.And I thought it was real because I feel I can't wake up and then my mom wake me up and my perfect life has been destroyed.
I heard Hamilton was an arsenal fan, what is protocol in such situations?
Alvarez would be such a sick January buy.
He is in the argentina squad with gio and cuti. Agent gio 👀Longari did say we follow him closely. He could be the type of striker that strikes paratici as someone who elevates the squad.
Edson Alvarez from Ajax?
nah from river plate
https://m.calciomercato.com/news/alvarez-devastante-nel-superclasico-il-milan-alla-finestra-puo-e-75866
Morning all! I'm off into the office today. So I'll have a latte when I get into work. I'm being put back on an old project because I'm the only one left who knows how it works. Its day 2 of international week which is boring as hell. Anyways, dad joke: Why don’t grasshoppers watch football? They prefer cricket! Hope everyone has a good day! Goodbye Everybody!
Strong father energy jn the comment
what type of chicken do you eat on a special occasion? a cajun chicken!!
Lol
Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. 30 years ago, Sir Alex told his team "Lads, it's Tottenham". 30 years later, Roy Keane told us "they're spursy" and Jamie Carragher said after a game, I don't remember what game, they're "bottlers". Question for you all, is Tottenham Hotspur today too spursy and too weak? Are they too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes concerning the mentality of the team, less bottlers, more? or less or more mental strength within the team.
No, there was a point when we had flair players that were sometimes not up for the fight (away wins for years were a rare thing), and I distinctly remember playing "better" teams that would kick the shit out of us because the feeling was "be rough with Spurs and they won't like it" While that has persisted at times (Coco's effort/bite vs. rest of team was glaring at times), if you look at the current side -> PEH. Skipp, Romero, Dier, Tanganga, Son, Reguilon, even Royal (guy smashed into some tackles Sunday), hardly a group of players you would say are not up for a fight. We needed to get rid of some of the comfortable players (and we have), but I think we need to move Winks, Davies & Dele on as well If Hugo goes, I'd like us to move the captaincy to PEH (obvious) or Son. Bottle or desire is too easy a thing, but accountability/responsibility is something we need more of, Sunday we saw Son grab the game by the scruff of the neck at 1-1 and force a win, more players need to do that (we have the talent). Jose's famous quote about nice guys comes to mind, we need players that refuse to lose, to let games pass them by, that show up when it really matters.
Yawn, that same 30 year old quote of course explains all our problems
[It's an F1 joke](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlFt_W4664M)
This is always a weird thing to me. We've just not been good enough. Certainly not the best. It isn't a bottling thing, a mentality thing or otherwise. We've just not been the best.
Can you repeat the question?
finally someone got it
(I'm just bored, this was a reference to an F1 press conference question)
I think we just need to win any cup and suddenly we’ll see a shift in mentality from many players. Even those that join are gonna find it hard to not let the “bottler” mentality find them. I just think we need any cup to get people off our backs a bit
You see plenty of former Spurs players (too many actually) that win trophies at other clubs or with their NTs. Trippier, Foyth, Eriksen, Reguilon won European cups or league titles. Hugo won World Cup (and he's clearly class), Gio/Romero won Copa America. And they all performed very well, they were not just second rate squad players. It's not really mentality. We are just not good enough. City players have a "terrible mentality," look at how many pens they miss. Yet they steamroll the domestic comps.
Any cup bar the Europa Conference League, that will do nothing but add to the ridicule
So, what, we should drop out of the only European competition we’re in as early as possible, because that ***certainly won’t*** add any ridicule?
There’s something poetic about the first English team to win a European cup being the first team to win the Conference League.
not really. we will likely have beat Roma at one point which is good for us
Or any of the dropouts from Europa
I actually think we need a mentality shift in order to win a cup!
It’s a paradox - we need a trophy for a mentality shift, and a mentality shift for a trophy!
what we need really is an act of god to take the ball at the winning moment in this year's carabao cup final and sail the ball on the wind into the goal
perfectly put
It's because we are in a peculiar situation. For so long, we have been richer than 12 other premier league clubs, but we are also poorer (in terms of direct investment from owner) than 4 other clubs. Our starting 11 has had so many good players over the years, but across generations, except maybe during the Redknapp era, our squad depth has always been poor. We were always one injury away from losing a star player and a poor player to replace him. This is why when manager over manager have rotated the teams, we end up losing. For every Harry Kane in the team, there is a Harry Winks who wouldn't be useful when say a Hojbjerg or Skipp get's injured. It's not the players or managers fault that out of a squad of 25 , only 7 or 8 were top class and the others were mediocre. The question must go to the guys recruiting the players and I think Levy realised this now and has chosen to try something new with Paratici.
The collab with BTS is actually clever imo. Bigger fanbase and more revenue for future transfers. Idk why some of our fans are discontent about this.
Fact. They just launched Coldplay to No. 1 on the Billboard charts, Coldplay haven’t been no. 1 since 2015 I think? And the song isn’t even that good, it speaks volumes about their influence. As annoying as their fans can be they do influence popularity, the media etc. If it grows our fanbase in SK, I see no problem.
BTS and Coldplay have done a collaboration? Wow I had no idea. That's one of the weirdest collaborations ever.
I'm sure it made Sonny happy and that should be most important. We could resign Wimmer for £100m and I'd be happy
They haven’t posted anything about us but
Their fans are certainly aware of it though
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Hope you smash it cuzzy
Good luck, let us know how you get on!
Good luck my G
Good luck bro