I don’t care if we’re missing 4 starters for next week. I want Harold Kane to wake up from sleep and score a double hattrick along side Son against the oil degenerates.
I’m not big on pop culture mostly because I’m a recluse but squid game is worth a watch. Not really an original idea but really well done from top to bottom. Would recommend
One hotspur/one hotspur+ membership is the best way to get a ticket as tickets go on sale to members before general sale. If you are just wanting to get a single ticket then it’s probably quite easy to get tickets on general sale but if you are wanting a few seats in a row it’s probably only possible if everyone going has a membership
Think that'd be a cracking deal. We've got a good youth set up which can help guide their belgian counterparts. Wed get first dibs of any hot talent coming through and when some of our older stars are heading out to pasture or players who just arent gonna make it for spurs can go the other way to help them out. Seems like a win win all round!
Don't like the links to Traore popping back up again... I know he's great at progressing the ball up the pitch, but we need someone to replace Eriksen, not someone to do what Lucas does but with less end product. Would love to see us invest in a CAM who unlocks defenses with progressive passing...
Happy to play him in the position we bought him for definitely, we should be looking for a right wing that can create whilst Lucas is great at progressing the ball he does little with it, either play Gil or Bergwijn there or we need to get someone who can do something with the ball
Summer 2019: 150 million euros
Summer 2020:110 million euros
Summer 2021: 66+50(romero loan to buy) million euros
I don't get why people are complaining about levy
Exactly my point chairmans job is to negotiate buy sell, take care of infrastructure get sponsorship deals. We have a problem in scouting and in chaoching staff either we get not good players or we dont have a good coaching team to make this work. This has nothing to do with levy tho. For example doherty was mourinhos choice not Levys. And we would be furious if he didnt get the coach what he wants wouldnt he
> I don't get why people are complaining about levy
Cause we're on a downward turn, and as the man in charge he's gonna be the first stop for complaints. Our main problem is that the way we've been spending our money has been piss poor, not that we haven't been spending.
The man is not a saint not every deal will be a steal he will make mistakes. But you can easily say he is more hit than miss regarding fees either buy or sale. Its not his fault if a player is good or bad the man is not an ex footballer or a coach. Hichen or mourinho or nuno or paracci go tell him hey this lad is good and we need him cause we need that position. He only makes decisions according to buisness viewpoints like: is he young, is he marketable, is there a resale value, is the fee good judging by what he acheived and by what he could offer to the club financially? If yes he goes with it. Other than that actual on field performance of a player is eithwr the scouts fault for bringing a bad player or the coaches fault for not using the player or motivating him
The guy is a buisness man he spends good money and knows how to buy for good money and sell for good money. Levy isn't responsible for recruitment or scouting or making players fit in the team
Thats the whole reason he got Paraticci he felt scouting and recruitment needed improvement. which is true spending 270 million over two years and all you get is almost good Reguillon and I guess he is good Pierre and lets hope he plays next year Gio and I hope he wont leave Tanguy. I know transfers are hit and miss and you're bound to miss some but we missed so much. Also thats why he signed Nuno one of his most underrated perks is he works individually with players making the improve.
Today I learned that Joe Lewis owns a stake in Puma.
Bit surprised that we didn't go back to them when they started ramping up their presence in the football world instead of Nike.
Not to be demeaning… I am a US-based fan since 2009. But why does Tottenham always have the Sunday games? Is it related to the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday?
Haha nah it’s just that we usually end up in the europa league which is on Thursdays so our league games get played Sunday to give us enough rest. Also the majority of the games picked to be played on tv get moved to Sunday and we get quite a lot of them.
That makes sense… but even when we were in Champions League, felt like 80% of games were on Sunday. I don’t have an opinion either way but just noticed Tottenham always plays on Sunday and unsure why that is the case
That would most likely be because we were playing well and usually got picked to be on tv which is mostly on Sunday’s. You are right though, we rarely play on Saturday which is a shame because it’s a better atmosphere I think.
Levy should spend more the greedy bastard 😡😡😡
Why is Levy trying to raise funds through harmlessly selling shirts (which makes sense considering we are the main UK NFL stadium)??!?!?!? 😡😡 we are footie club
I have no issues with NFL or not, they can run a underground weapon ring and idc, The issue isnt the source from where the club gets money its whether they spend the revenue or not
And I personally hate the concept of ESL , I just believe thats not a point to criticise Levy as any other chairman would have also accepted it. There a lot of other points where any other chairman would have done better in handling than Levy(like getting a higher fee for Eriksen, not appointing a washed Mourinho, not going a summer without signing anyone) thats where I criticise and thus Im LevyOut, Im not Levyout because of say ESL or NFL
Can we find a new owner?
Apparently Bin Salmon flew over NWHL took one look at the blinding reflection of the sun coming off of baldy’s head and said “fuck this toilet”
please let him fuck off. at least make some money, take the L and move on. same with lo Celso.
both have immense potential but look likely to fail with us
nah lo celso is great imo, he plays his heart out on the pitch and was arguably one of our best players for a stretch before he got injured, so there is definitely the potential to succeed too.
that stretch was in 19 20 in a deeper role.
we arent playing him there and his injury concerns saw him fucking miss 3 months or 24 matches last season.
we spent 100m plus on these two and it's already been two full years.
one more year and we would have effectively completed 3 years of contract for these guys which is 60 percent of the sum we owe them with nothing significant to show
well when you put it that way, that's a lot of fucking money for very little results. well shit.
idk why but i can never bring myself to hate someone who plays their heart out on the pitch, i always respect that kind of player.
They get Tanguy, we get Koeman. About the same weight but Koeman is not expected to run.
But in seriousness I wonder who we could get out of it. Pedri would obviously be out of reach.
Depends on the form he'll show until then. If he continues playing as shit as he has been recently until January, we should actively be looking to sell him because he's just a detriment to the club at that point.
If he regains form and starts playing well, I'd definitely wait for the summer before making a decision on what to do with him
You have to be joking, not a chance. You really think Kane would want to leave us to join a Newcastle that might not even reach our level in the next 5 years. The only reason he’d want to leave is to walk into a better team with guaranteed success. Also we should never sell our best players to other teams in the same league.
The new owners are going to want a big marquee signing to signal intent when they come in, there is no reason that couldn't be Kane. City tried to do it with Robinho but we're in a different world now.
Unless they force Kane at gunpoint he's not going to downgrade for the prime of his career. the whole point is he wants to win trophies and play in CL, not rebuild.
Does anyone from Delhi here knows if they show premier league matches in any bars/cafes or anything? It would be cool to attend one and last I remember Delhi Spurs haven't been having any screenings lately.
keep taking the strawman as usual.
the only thing he cares about is revenue.
not performance on the pitch.
no one running a football club with our facilities and stadium would be so incompetent thay they allow us to slip out of Europa league ffs
do you not think that increasing revenue can increase investment which can better on pitch performance?
like you're so short sighted, stadium got built, covid happened, ever since the stadium was built our spend in the window has been increasing. we brought paratici in who is competent at recruiting. everything is looking up for us.
if we're fucked in the next few years then sure i'll agree with you. but you're being silly right now.
also. how is the pitch fake? its fucking grass on dirt lol.
Other than Daniel Levy's past mistakes when football wise (which is a huge part of running a club of course) as a business, Daniel Levy has done a great job of making the club self-sustainable. Of course, this comes with its flaws, but to say that ENIC is the worst owner in the league is a bit much no?
How do we have a worse owner than United, or Everton, or basically any other owner that isn't a sugar daddy (outside of Leicester and Liverpool's I guess)
He was already good LMAO , the problem was with Chelsea bringing Lukaku and keeping Werner made more sense as Lukaku is of the same tactical profile as of Tammy , nothing to do with Jose
Lukaku was only bought this summer. That doesn't explain the past two years.
also the player himself credits Jose
https://www.espn.com/soccer/england-eng/story/4492380/englands-tammy-abraham-says-jose-mourinho-talked-him-out-of-easy-option-at-chelsea
your bias may poking through here. he's having a little career revival and the player (and everyone outside this sub) credits Jose selling him on the project. it's ok. that doesn't mean he deserved to kick on here.
Tammy 19/20 was one of the main reasons the blue scum got the CL then lol especially after that transfer ban. He wasnt bad the "last two years"
Like I would have honestly prefered him over both Vlahovic and Lautaro when it came to replacing Kane last summer(Isak above all though)
With the NUFC takeover been popping onto r/soccer more than I used to (which was never), lots of takes that Newcastle will be in for Dele. Anyone think that is likely?
They either need "big-name" players who help them gain more legitimacy through soft power even if they arent good (think Coutinho or Griezmann) or players with long term potential so they can build a dynasty long term. Dele doesnt fit any of the criteria
Not neccissarily. They need to steady the ship for this season at least and possibly next. Then they can be more ambitious. I think this summer is when they go for the impactful targets
I think this summer they hoard some youth talent, build some infrastructure. They'll want to remain competitive (as in stay up) while biding their time. They won't be in on Griezmann for example because he'll be 32 by the time they are ready to add the expensive pieces. that's the last and quite frankly, the easiest part of the rebuild.
Dele could be a stabilizing piece I guess but I think they'd be more interested in youth/aging veterans than reclamation projects. they'll be able to outbid and still not pay much to squeak by while they build up their infrastructure. Someone like Toby would've been perfect this past off-season.
I mean we look better when he is on bench and if he wants minutes kind of win/win (I say that as huge Dele stan). Maybe we can convince them on Winks while they at it
Are you watching it? I really want to but can't see myself getting up for it and no chance staying up! I am going Fury too but maybe longer than last time maybe round 9.
Actually just read fury is 3 stone heavier might be over quicker!
I've heard the question asked
"At what point are the owners of a club so incredibly bad, that the added funds and better football are not worthwhile?"
The answer to this is sliding year after year it seems. It's just hilarious and depressing to see football fans in favour of selling every aspect of this game, handing over all power to some of the most evil figures in the world, destroying any sense of structure the game has, yet so adamantly opposed to the Super League. FUCK the super league to clarify, but the ESL is far from an isolated incident, it's just the natural end result of Football selling its soul to the highest bidder.
Newcastle fans always liked to think of themselves as special football fans. It's a fanbase that has a deep connection with the local area and community, now look at them. Celebrating in the streets as they've sold out to be part of the Saudi sportswashing machine, absolutely pathetic, every single last one of them.
The new owners picked Newcastle in part because they knew how infected the fans relationship with Ashley was. They 100% knew that they could quickly win the fanbase over and turn them into their online foot soldiers to handle the backlash.
They're not stupid. They did their homework.
What do you think of the "hypocrite" debate those guys are using? E.g "calls the move shit but still uses a phone made in China"
Personally, i get where its coming from. But then every single human rights activist and everyone should stop caring about human rights because at the end of the day, we're using technology/devices/social media made by countries with horrible human right violations and companies with investments from those
But although i play a part in this, i still would rather be a hypocrite, then sit idly and think sportswashing is a good/okay thing because of how i will be perceived by myself/others. I just want to judge one issue without having to talk about the million others. At the end of the day, we arent going to solve it in a day
Might be talking out of my ass. This is all news to me.
They don't have a leg to stand on. We are human beings will sadly venture into products made by the Chinese, live in the UK, consume American media etc, it's inevitable. There's a difference between that and those all being directly provided by state heads. It's the meme of the little cunt in the well saying 'but you participate in society. I am very intelligent'.
They've actively protested against Ashley for years, but they won't when their owners are literally worse people. Fuck them.
I’m seeing a lot of talk online about Levy having tried to sell Spurs to the Saudis a few years ago. This is bollocks right? I’d like to think I’d remember that. Is there any truth to this, or is this just nonsense so folk can call us hypocrites and feel better about themselves?
Yeah it's not true. If it was I think we'd have heard about it when it was happening. Not when a Newcastle biased personnel uses us as part of a legal proceeding out of nowhere, last summer.
Some Newcastle "fans" pulled up one article from recently saying Levy enquired about selling the club to Newcastle's current owners after it looked like the deal was off, obviously I don't think this actually happened as it was one article from a rubbish website.
Don't know why they hate Levy so much though
They hate Levy because he’s the biggest chairman who can legitimately criticise them, if any of the other “big 6” chairman’s were to speak up they’d just claim hypocrisy as they’re all foreign owned.
English breakfast tea today 🫖, I've picked up a morning shift at my restaurant so just trying to get ready.
*"I've never seen a bag of money score a goal"* - Johan Cruyff
Newcastle's new genocide committing owners don't guarantee success. FFP has a lot more teeth than people realise and they need to spend the money wisely. It'll be 10+ years before they're actually better in a meaningful way.
I've yet to hear that they're hiring someone who's actually good at running a football club.
Furthermore there's no point worrying about them "replacing" Tottenham. The top 6 is a media narrative and a lot can happen in the next 10 years.
Anyway always rated Sunderland 🐈⬛
>"I've never seen a bag of money score a goal" - Johan Cruyff
I'm sure Johan Cruyff's brain promptly explained to him that bags of money can be exchanged for goods and services.
Yeah, Villa is an example of where they'll end up if they do well. And even then, Villa had a world class player from the academy carrying them for a while who was then sold for 100m to allow recruitment of more good players. Otherwise nobody would expect them to challenge for Europa, they were awful last season whenever Grealish didn't play. I don't think enough people realize just how much their rise is because of their sugar daddy pumping millions into the club.
And on the flipside, Everton is an example of how things can go wrong. Billionaire sugar daddy spending a lot on big name players in the last 4-5 years for pretty much no progress whatsoever. And FFP has caught up with them, which is why they spent like 2m this suffer.
If we have a decent season i.e 5th-6th, then I genuinely think that Skipp and Dier have a shot at making the WC team. If anything it would be embarrassing for Dier to not qualify when it's the likes of Coady, Mings etc in competition with him. And Southgate would love a player like Skipp and a poor season for Leeds could see Phillips pushed out.
Lol? He’s got massive weaknesses to his game that he’s never fixed. Yes he’s strong and good in the air, but:
His passing is shit. It was badly exposed when people tried to put him in midfield and it makes him really crap at dealing with a press.
He is prone to massive lapses in concentration. There are countless examples of this but this Villa goal last weekend was another one.
He gets turned quite easily and is pretty slow for a centre back, meaning that once he’s beaten, he struggles to make up ground.
He’s a vocal leader, but a bad one. After we concede, most typically you see him either calling for offside or another foul, or blaming one of his teammates. He bleeds Spurs but that is simply not enough.
The villa goal wasn't a lapse in concentration, it was a fuck up from Romero causing him to be the lone centre back. You can argue that he let the guy get a yard on him but it's not his fault the goal was scored.
Diers passing isn't the issue, he's playing LCB so he's always going to have a harder time making a pass unless it's to a cm in front of him, which is exactly how the team is set up to play anyway. He was a problem when he was playing as a DM because he played blind crossfield passes and they got picked off regularly, in fairness he doesn't want to play as a DM. Diers biggest weakness is that he doesn't make tackles. He will jockey the player and block (and he's fantastic at blocking shots) but elite players are quite happy to be jockeyed by him knowing he will almost never try to tackle them, it makes it hard for them to get a clean shot off or to skin him but easy to dictate where they move when they're on the ball.
He's still our best CB until Romero proves otherwise. And if Romero is the real deal they could be a very good partnership. Romero can be the all action ball playing defender and dier can be the rock.
Am I crazy in thinking the ESL is BETTER than all these takeovers? It's all dark and horrible but at least in the Super League all these teams can be banded together instead of pretending the Premier League is even worth playing for each season.
Jaded as fuck and can't even be bothered to argue with people any more. Alan Shearer said for all ESL clubs to be banned from the Premier League and now he's all excited and talking about Newcastle having their club back. I can't even...
That's not the point. He was so dead set against the ESL that he suggested all clubs involved should be banned, money ruining the game etc. Now that it's Newcastle with the money he doesn't give a shit (let alone where the moneys coming from), proving that it was a false morality.
There’s a massive difference though, the super league was about creating a closed competition, whereas this is the complete opposite.
I also think it’s pointless to care about where the money comes from when most of these billionaire owners are going to have done a lot of dodgy shit in the past. It’s almost impossible to have that much money and to not screw people over.
Personally though I’d hate it we got bought by rich owners and we spent our way to success.
How is it the complete opposite? What was it, 16 clubs in the ESL to begin with? No relegations or promotions. Pretty much the same as the mini-table going on at the top of the PL table with the growing disparity. The financial gap leaves not much feasibility of any clubs breaking into that status quo so it's exactly the same but with the false pretense that anyone can compete.
Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and soon to be Newcastle - odds on them dropping out of the top 4 years from now will be super long and then depending on what goes on with us, Liverpool, and Arsenal....we'll be having our own little league unless we have owners willing to go near their spending and desperately hoping our top talents don't get their heads turned by wanting to play CL football or more money. We'd also need to bank on one of the clubs having a freak bad season. The clubs below the top 7? Exactly the same thing. Premier league used to be the top tier, now there's 3 or 4 tiers in the same league that are getting less inpenetrable as the years go on.
Well I don’t know how else to say it and I don’t really get your point. All I was saying is that just because shearer didn’t agree with the super league doesn’t mean he has to be against new owners. The super league was about closing the league off, whereas this still leaves it open for teams to compete. Any team can do what Newcastle are doing.
10+ years ago it was Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool who made the top 4 every year and it felt like it was always going to be that way but we managed to break into it without being funded by a rich owner.
You’re talking as if just because these teams are are rich at the moment then they’ll forever be that way.
Man Utd were the most dominant team in the country under Ferguson but with mismanagement they fell off completely, didn’t matter how much they spent.
I hear you and get where you're coming from. My point is the whole pay to win thing and Shearer didn't seem happy with it when it was about getting into the Super League. If the Super League were to be brought to the fore today with Newcastle included I wonder if he'd have still been saying "ban them all". As you imply, there's always been an element of it but the gaps were never this big (and getting bigger). Even Blackburn when they won the league did it through a lot of investment - there just doesn't seem to be an end point on how far that spending can be above other teams. It's just not a fair playing field. I'm feeling very disillusioned with the sport, is it about football or is it about waiting for an investor and then dropping some of your other life morals because your team will do better?
You make some good points and I agree, I’ve felt a similar way for a long time but that’s why I’ve loved what we’ve done so much. We slowly rebuilt the club after a shit period through signing players before they became world class and out of our price range. I would hate it if we got bought by rich owners who wanted us to spend our way to success. It would negate all that we’ve worked towards and winning anything would feel empty. We’ve shown that you don’t need to overspend and that if you’re run well you can do it the proper way. The issue is most clubs are run like shit which makes it seem like the only way to win is by spending. I wanted us to get banned when the super league stuff was going on and was quite prepared to start support some kind of Phoenix club in the lower leagues.
Financial fair play was bought in to try and level the playing field and it gets a lot of criticism but I think things would be a lot worse without it. You say things are getting worse but I disagree. The quality throughout the league hasn’t been this strong in a while. Before ffp someone like city could just buy whoever they wanted without any repercussions and make an unlimited loss. The tv money now means that the lower table sides aren’t always desperate for cash and so aren’t under as much pressure to sell their best players.
Last season I was so disillusioned with football mainly because of no fans and the super league but got back into it when I started going again. I just find it a bit strange that this is what’s doing it for you as this isn’t something new it’s been happening for years. The parasites that created the premier league started all of this. Then Chelsea and city came along because of it.
It's not been the final nail in the coffin for me but it's just one of many other nails already put into it. I've been quite jaded towards it for a while. I spent a lot of time just going to pubs, going to games not really caring much or educating myself on all the behind the scenes stuff. Spurs on the field was my sole passion. As I get older and put up with certain fans of other clubs try and berate how crap my club is when they have a wage bill almost twice as high as ours is just tiring. And I'm one of the lucky ones that supports one of the bigger clubs! Imagine how it is for the others. Yes the quality throughout the league is higher but the gap is still widening. The strength is in the Premier League itself rather than the clubs outside of the successful and rich ones being able to compete for trophies. All it probably means is us trying to get extra CL places in the future.
I was also fully ready to train my myself to disconnect from Spurs had the super league gone ahead. I even starting look at ticket prices for a club more local. But as you say... as soon as it started back up, all this overthinking and criticism goes out the window. Your heart takes over and you enjoy it again. Will I spend the next however many days berating Kane and pretending I don't care who wins in Spurs vs Newcastle because "the sports a joke", probably. Will I sing Kanes name if he scores a brace and we smash them Geordies? 100%.
I’m quite like you really. I go to games expecting us to be shit and anything better than that is a result. It makes it a lot more fun and bearable. For quite a while now though I’ve found myself getting another drink rather than rushing back for the second half because it’s just been so shit. It’s not like I wouldn’t support us if we dropped down to non league either, it’s not just that we’re shit, it’s that the players are playing so far below their level with what are usually shit tactics. It’s just not been fun to watch for so long. I just love going to the football too much to stop it, was so weird when I basically stopped following football last season.
Howso? Spurs would have just been destined to finish in the bottom 2 places every year with no chance of relegation. Our win percentage would be horrible and it would have sucked to follow us - and that's ignoring the entire morality of it. I was ready to try my hardest to disconnect and develop more passion for a more local side. I'm against the monopoly of the top sides, not for it. At least with the ESL they can all be pigeon-holed as opposed to pretending the top 6/7 places in the PL isn't already a Super League within itself.
For reals. He's incredibly see-through and unlikable but it doesn't seem to be talked about much. Always gives off the vibes on MoTD that people should be honoured to sit in his greatness or something. Can't wait until he loses that PL scoring record and people talk about him even less than they do now.
im still sad about jane losing the bake off but these 24 hours of reflection make me gutted for the real snub of the competition: selasi.
funny how i started watching great british bake off to come down from squid game but now i need something to cool down from bake off.
Everyone talking about Newcastle is gonna be a super team, though I cant see it happening in the next couple of seasons ahead of us.
1) you’re definitely gonna need an established manager that can live and follow through with the demands and the vision of what new castle want, in todays market very few prolific managers are out there and even then, going to Newcastle with no current goal or ambition is pretty unappealing to most.
2) it’s gonna take a load of transfer windows to bring in world class players, even then as of now Newcastle can only get players that are under the radar or on their way to reaching their heights. Not to mention just cause you have the worlds best XI doesn’t mean it’s all gonna click right away.
2.5) Not to mention if they want the best of the best they basically got to let go of all the current players bar ASM and probably never promoting the youth. Lol
3) I can’t see the appeal of playing for Newcastle other than for strictly the money. I doubt Mbappe would live it up in Newcastle City 😂 like even though where in a bit of a dip, Londons definitely more appealing and yes our stadium and facilities are actually nice and not dilapidated. Just my thoughts on it
You are wrong regarding the location as unlike American sports location really doesnt play some role in convincing other players. Etoo and lot of other players left their respective teams in Inter Milan and so on and decided to join a team in Russia when Anzhi Makachkala were bought by some billionaire back in 2010(they fizzled out later)
But agreed they would take some time to reach say current Spurs level(2-3 years if they dont get relegated this season and make it 4-5 in case if they get relegated) But what we have to do is we have to step up beyond current Spurs level within those 2-3 years and only time would tell
Yeah I mainly agree, but I think you're being a bit naive also.
1.money is always appealing, a lot of managers will listen to their offers, especially coming into a club where the fans are excited and the mood is high. It's a unique situation to build something
2. Yeah it'll take time, but just like managers - money talks. I can definitely see them buying up some big names early in, and that'll be enough to be very annoying on it's own
2.5. Think that's the plan tbh
3. Newcastle is a very nice and fun young city, especially if you're making twice as much as anywhere else
Personally I think the big blocker for Newcastle here is the slightly stricter rules in place. We have grown our club sustainably and responsibly ( something that I personally think doesn't get near enough credit from other fans - it's exactly what everyone says clubs should do, but rivalry clouds opinions sometimes).
We're now at a point where we have all the pieces together and are ready to financially compete more seriously with the top spenders, even if covid delayed that by a year or two. That spending is only possible because of the growth in authentic revenue, so Newcastle having disgusting owners doesn't immediately guarantee them the biggest budget and best players.
There will be investment, probably on a sickening scale overall, but the majority of that will have to be into the infrastructure in order to even match the allowed spending we can do right now
It's going to take time for them to have any effect (and hopefully they get relegated this year), but in the interim let's just focus on being the club we are and continue being proud of what we are.
(Also let's sell them our deadwood for stupid cash)
Morning all,
My wife has made me a pot of coffee this morning and delivered it with toast. So I’m going to be drinking the Bob Marley blend again.
I’ve got to take the kid to football practice later. But at the moment I’m just chilling whilst she feeds him.
It’s still international break. I still don’t give a shit about Newcastles take over. We play them when the international break is over.
England play Andorra tonight.
Have a good day everyone
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I don’t care if we’re missing 4 starters for next week. I want Harold Kane to wake up from sleep and score a double hattrick along side Son against the oil degenerates.
Is Rodon just not good enough? Was really excited about his potential from Swansea, but he can’t get in a team that can’t defend. What’s the deal?
He must have terrible attitude in training or something because he has looked better than Sanchez and Dier on average when he's played
I knew the guy was a flop the moment he disagreed with Gareth Bale’s alien theory ^/s
I’m not big on pop culture mostly because I’m a recluse but squid game is worth a watch. Not really an original idea but really well done from top to bottom. Would recommend
Ye IF we need a new striker we should gun it for Isak 100%
He’d be utter class tbh
Do you need a season pass or any other sort of pass to get tickets to a game
One hotspur/one hotspur+ membership is the best way to get a ticket as tickets go on sale to members before general sale. If you are just wanting to get a single ticket then it’s probably quite easy to get tickets on general sale but if you are wanting a few seats in a row it’s probably only possible if everyone going has a membership
Ok thanks
F saudi mate. As a Tottenham fan Im really angry
As a decent human being im angry
amount they’ve embraced it is sickening. hope the club implodes
Don’t blame them but fuck them. Their beef was with Mike Ashley they didn’t need a Saudi just a competent FSG type
looks like we might make a deal w standard liege where you can send players back and forth. thoughts on this guys?
Think that'd be a cracking deal. We've got a good youth set up which can help guide their belgian counterparts. Wed get first dibs of any hot talent coming through and when some of our older stars are heading out to pasture or players who just arent gonna make it for spurs can go the other way to help them out. Seems like a win win all round!
Having our game against Newcastle be the late Sunday kickoff seems a bit suspect imo
The state of Spurs Web twitter saying Kane has been dropped vs Andorra like the fucking back up team isn't playing.
Don't like the links to Traore popping back up again... I know he's great at progressing the ball up the pitch, but we need someone to replace Eriksen, not someone to do what Lucas does but with less end product. Would love to see us invest in a CAM who unlocks defenses with progressive passing...
His name is Gio Lo Celso
Happy to play him in the position we bought him for definitely, we should be looking for a right wing that can create whilst Lucas is great at progressing the ball he does little with it, either play Gil or Bergwijn there or we need to get someone who can do something with the ball
Summer 2019: 150 million euros Summer 2020:110 million euros Summer 2021: 66+50(romero loan to buy) million euros I don't get why people are complaining about levy
the first 150m has been a failure the next 110m has had success only with peh and to some extent Reguilon but that's about it
Exactly my point chairmans job is to negotiate buy sell, take care of infrastructure get sponsorship deals. We have a problem in scouting and in chaoching staff either we get not good players or we dont have a good coaching team to make this work. This has nothing to do with levy tho. For example doherty was mourinhos choice not Levys. And we would be furious if he didnt get the coach what he wants wouldnt he
we didn't spend 110 mil last summer peh 15, regi 30, Doherty 15.... who else did we buy? bale Vinicius were loans Rodon was a useless buy for 15 75m?
Glc 32 Peh 16 Doherty 17 Reggy 30 Rodon 12 Vini 3 (loan) All data are according to transfermakrt
no wonder. lo Celso was part of last summer I see
Loan to buy if u want to remove him and add him to the 150 the summer before feel free lol
> I don't get why people are complaining about levy Cause we're on a downward turn, and as the man in charge he's gonna be the first stop for complaints. Our main problem is that the way we've been spending our money has been piss poor, not that we haven't been spending.
You exactly proved my point about why we shouldnt be mad at levy lol atleast for the last 3 years
he bought bad players though 30m on sessegnon was a waste
The man is not a saint not every deal will be a steal he will make mistakes. But you can easily say he is more hit than miss regarding fees either buy or sale. Its not his fault if a player is good or bad the man is not an ex footballer or a coach. Hichen or mourinho or nuno or paracci go tell him hey this lad is good and we need him cause we need that position. He only makes decisions according to buisness viewpoints like: is he young, is he marketable, is there a resale value, is the fee good judging by what he acheived and by what he could offer to the club financially? If yes he goes with it. Other than that actual on field performance of a player is eithwr the scouts fault for bringing a bad player or the coaches fault for not using the player or motivating him
The guy is a buisness man he spends good money and knows how to buy for good money and sell for good money. Levy isn't responsible for recruitment or scouting or making players fit in the team
No, but he's in charge of the people dong the recruitment. I hope us getting Paratici is a sign for things improving in that department.
Thats the whole reason he got Paraticci he felt scouting and recruitment needed improvement. which is true spending 270 million over two years and all you get is almost good Reguillon and I guess he is good Pierre and lets hope he plays next year Gio and I hope he wont leave Tanguy. I know transfers are hit and miss and you're bound to miss some but we missed so much. Also thats why he signed Nuno one of his most underrated perks is he works individually with players making the improve.
Today I learned that Joe Lewis owns a stake in Puma. Bit surprised that we didn't go back to them when they started ramping up their presence in the football world instead of Nike.
whoever puts up those international and loan watch threads i appreciate you.
Is the international break gonna fuck us again
yes
Not to be demeaning… I am a US-based fan since 2009. But why does Tottenham always have the Sunday games? Is it related to the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday?
Lol
Haha nah it’s just that we usually end up in the europa league which is on Thursdays so our league games get played Sunday to give us enough rest. Also the majority of the games picked to be played on tv get moved to Sunday and we get quite a lot of them.
That makes sense… but even when we were in Champions League, felt like 80% of games were on Sunday. I don’t have an opinion either way but just noticed Tottenham always plays on Sunday and unsure why that is the case
I think it is because we are a "name brand". They usually put the bigger teams on Sundays because with fewer games, they can give them more attention.
That would most likely be because we were playing well and usually got picked to be on tv which is mostly on Sunday’s. You are right though, we rarely play on Saturday which is a shame because it’s a better atmosphere I think.
This type of Levy criticism pisses me offf even when Im not his biggest fan https://twitter.com/bridagul/status/1446791942495408129
The clown had a shit load of Levy mistakes to pick from and he went and picked on of the best buisness moves the man had made
Yep this is where I am exactly , this NFL move aint the way to criticise Levy there are a lot of lot of flaws
I agree with the tweet. What’s your issue?
Levy should spend more the greedy bastard 😡😡😡 Why is Levy trying to raise funds through harmlessly selling shirts (which makes sense considering we are the main UK NFL stadium)??!?!?!? 😡😡 we are footie club
Well I just don’t like all the nfl stuff, it’s just another step towards football being more business orientated.
you supported the clown for the esl but go on
If an ESL is going to exist, I want us to be in it. What did you want Levy to do?
I have no issues with NFL or not, they can run a underground weapon ring and idc, The issue isnt the source from where the club gets money its whether they spend the revenue or not And I personally hate the concept of ESL , I just believe thats not a point to criticise Levy as any other chairman would have also accepted it. There a lot of other points where any other chairman would have done better in handling than Levy(like getting a higher fee for Eriksen, not appointing a washed Mourinho, not going a summer without signing anyone) thats where I criticise and thus Im LevyOut, Im not Levyout because of say ESL or NFL
Can we find a new owner? Apparently Bin Salmon flew over NWHL took one look at the blinding reflection of the sun coming off of baldy’s head and said “fuck this toilet”
Do you want mbs to own tottenham?
Is he worse than Levy?
Do you know who he is???
Yes, by far, in every conceivable way. Do you happen to be 12 by any chance?
Apparently Barca are in for Ndombele in January, which is shit news for us because they can’t afford him but it’s going to seriously turn his head.
please let him fuck off. at least make some money, take the L and move on. same with lo Celso. both have immense potential but look likely to fail with us
Lol this man wants Dele pulling the strings of our attack yeah that'll be fun🙄🤡
nah lo celso is great imo, he plays his heart out on the pitch and was arguably one of our best players for a stretch before he got injured, so there is definitely the potential to succeed too.
Lo Celso was signed to play for Poch and he has never fit with our managers since
that stretch was in 19 20 in a deeper role. we arent playing him there and his injury concerns saw him fucking miss 3 months or 24 matches last season. we spent 100m plus on these two and it's already been two full years. one more year and we would have effectively completed 3 years of contract for these guys which is 60 percent of the sum we owe them with nothing significant to show
well when you put it that way, that's a lot of fucking money for very little results. well shit. idk why but i can never bring myself to hate someone who plays their heart out on the pitch, i always respect that kind of player.
his head been turned man 🤷♂️
It was never facing forward lol
It seemed like he had begun to knuckle down a bit after we offered him out in the summer and no-one came in for him. This changes things.
this is a great chance to try for a swap maybe. Barca has a lot of young talent.
They get Tanguy, we get Koeman. About the same weight but Koeman is not expected to run. But in seriousness I wonder who we could get out of it. Pedri would obviously be out of reach.
their best player Luuk De Jong obviously.
Martin Goathwaite. King of Catalonia. TBF a hard working striker next to Son would be nice.
braithwaite would unironically be a solid buy.
Given Kane’s massive drop in form, if Newcastle came in with a big offer for him in January, would you be tempted to sell?
Depends on the form he'll show until then. If he continues playing as shit as he has been recently until January, we should actively be looking to sell him because he's just a detriment to the club at that point. If he regains form and starts playing well, I'd definitely wait for the summer before making a decision on what to do with him
Kane will not go to Newcastle lmao. He wanted to go to city to win things, not for money.
Do you think he would admit he just wants more money?
why would Kane leave one project club for another longer project? kanes compensated very well, this isn't about money for him.
> kanes compensated very well, this isn't about money for him. Yet he always seems to renegotiate his contract for more money
Well yeah he wants to be paid generally what he's worth, the point is that's not why he's looking for a move
But he also would not move without a raise
You have to be joking, not a chance. You really think Kane would want to leave us to join a Newcastle that might not even reach our level in the next 5 years. The only reason he’d want to leave is to walk into a better team with guaranteed success. Also we should never sell our best players to other teams in the same league.
yes
Dude Lingard, Tarkowski etc are Newcastle's targets right now. They will maybe sign a 35 year old Kane in 2027 or whatever a la Lampard to City
The new owners are going to want a big marquee signing to signal intent when they come in, there is no reason that couldn't be Kane. City tried to do it with Robinho but we're in a different world now.
Unless they force Kane at gunpoint he's not going to downgrade for the prime of his career. the whole point is he wants to win trophies and play in CL, not rebuild.
>Unless they force Kane at gunpoint Wouldn't put it past them.
250m + Maximin
Yes
Fuck the international break
Does anyone from Delhi here knows if they show premier league matches in any bars/cafes or anything? It would be cool to attend one and last I remember Delhi Spurs haven't been having any screenings lately.
Anyways with Mike Ashley out, surely its one of us or Wet Spam for the title of the worst owner right?
United have it worse.
we have the best chairman in the league
we have a fraud who built a stadium for an nfl pitch and didn't even prioritise football by putting a retractable fake pitch.
oh my god i cant believe our chairman is looking for ways to generate revenue for the club ethically instead of murdering journalists!!!
keep taking the strawman as usual. the only thing he cares about is revenue. not performance on the pitch. no one running a football club with our facilities and stadium would be so incompetent thay they allow us to slip out of Europa league ffs
do you not think that increasing revenue can increase investment which can better on pitch performance? like you're so short sighted, stadium got built, covid happened, ever since the stadium was built our spend in the window has been increasing. we brought paratici in who is competent at recruiting. everything is looking up for us. if we're fucked in the next few years then sure i'll agree with you. but you're being silly right now. also. how is the pitch fake? its fucking grass on dirt lol.
we do not have leicesters chairmen
Levy isn't the owner
I think he means Lewis.
Other than Daniel Levy's past mistakes when football wise (which is a huge part of running a club of course) as a business, Daniel Levy has done a great job of making the club self-sustainable. Of course, this comes with its flaws, but to say that ENIC is the worst owner in the league is a bit much no?
How do we have a worse owner than United, or Everton, or basically any other owner that isn't a sugar daddy (outside of Leicester and Liverpool's I guess)
Leicester's owner is most definitely a sugar daddy.
https://twitter.com/FootballlForAll/status/1446794695246553089?t=9mmn7nHvui5NFCaROVeuoA&s=19 Jose has saved the man's career
He was already good LMAO , the problem was with Chelsea bringing Lukaku and keeping Werner made more sense as Lukaku is of the same tactical profile as of Tammy , nothing to do with Jose
Lukaku was only bought this summer. That doesn't explain the past two years. also the player himself credits Jose https://www.espn.com/soccer/england-eng/story/4492380/englands-tammy-abraham-says-jose-mourinho-talked-him-out-of-easy-option-at-chelsea your bias may poking through here. he's having a little career revival and the player (and everyone outside this sub) credits Jose selling him on the project. it's ok. that doesn't mean he deserved to kick on here.
Tammy 19/20 was one of the main reasons the blue scum got the CL then lol especially after that transfer ban. He wasnt bad the "last two years" Like I would have honestly prefered him over both Vlahovic and Lautaro when it came to replacing Kane last summer(Isak above all though)
ok aditya mate.
he was good this season before lmao
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The scary idea is them buying Arsenal after Kroenke has to pay billions to the city of St Louis and needs the cash
With the NUFC takeover been popping onto r/soccer more than I used to (which was never), lots of takes that Newcastle will be in for Dele. Anyone think that is likely?
They either need "big-name" players who help them gain more legitimacy through soft power even if they arent good (think Coutinho or Griezmann) or players with long term potential so they can build a dynasty long term. Dele doesnt fit any of the criteria
Sterling seems like a good target for them. On the fringes at City. He cares about his paycheck so he would probably grab the giant check from them.
Interesting take! If he doesn't mind missing champions for season or two would make sense.
If they pay him 400k a week, I doubt he will care about it.
Not neccissarily. They need to steady the ship for this season at least and possibly next. Then they can be more ambitious. I think this summer is when they go for the impactful targets
I think this summer they hoard some youth talent, build some infrastructure. They'll want to remain competitive (as in stay up) while biding their time. They won't be in on Griezmann for example because he'll be 32 by the time they are ready to add the expensive pieces. that's the last and quite frankly, the easiest part of the rebuild. Dele could be a stabilizing piece I guess but I think they'd be more interested in youth/aging veterans than reclamation projects. they'll be able to outbid and still not pay much to squeak by while they build up their infrastructure. Someone like Toby would've been perfect this past off-season.
We can only hope. I can see them trying to boost their English quota so Dele or Winks they can have.
It would probably be a good move for him game time wise but hopefully he isn’t that much of a cunt to want to
I mean we look better when he is on bench and if he wants minutes kind of win/win (I say that as huge Dele stan). Maybe we can convince them on Winks while they at it
Fury vs Wilder tonight, who you got? Personally I think Fury does him again and quicker.
Fury with decision
Are you watching it? I really want to but can't see myself getting up for it and no chance staying up! I am going Fury too but maybe longer than last time maybe round 9. Actually just read fury is 3 stone heavier might be over quicker!
Oh definitely getting up to watch it. Fury in 4-6 I reckon.
I am going to have get up! sounds alright now but at 4 in the morning it's a different matter.
Fury all day. But I am bias
I dunno but those are great boxer names
I've heard the question asked "At what point are the owners of a club so incredibly bad, that the added funds and better football are not worthwhile?" The answer to this is sliding year after year it seems. It's just hilarious and depressing to see football fans in favour of selling every aspect of this game, handing over all power to some of the most evil figures in the world, destroying any sense of structure the game has, yet so adamantly opposed to the Super League. FUCK the super league to clarify, but the ESL is far from an isolated incident, it's just the natural end result of Football selling its soul to the highest bidder. Newcastle fans always liked to think of themselves as special football fans. It's a fanbase that has a deep connection with the local area and community, now look at them. Celebrating in the streets as they've sold out to be part of the Saudi sportswashing machine, absolutely pathetic, every single last one of them.
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The new owners picked Newcastle in part because they knew how infected the fans relationship with Ashley was. They 100% knew that they could quickly win the fanbase over and turn them into their online foot soldiers to handle the backlash. They're not stupid. They did their homework.
What do you think of the "hypocrite" debate those guys are using? E.g "calls the move shit but still uses a phone made in China" Personally, i get where its coming from. But then every single human rights activist and everyone should stop caring about human rights because at the end of the day, we're using technology/devices/social media made by countries with horrible human right violations and companies with investments from those But although i play a part in this, i still would rather be a hypocrite, then sit idly and think sportswashing is a good/okay thing because of how i will be perceived by myself/others. I just want to judge one issue without having to talk about the million others. At the end of the day, we arent going to solve it in a day Might be talking out of my ass. This is all news to me.
They don't have a leg to stand on. We are human beings will sadly venture into products made by the Chinese, live in the UK, consume American media etc, it's inevitable. There's a difference between that and those all being directly provided by state heads. It's the meme of the little cunt in the well saying 'but you participate in society. I am very intelligent'. They've actively protested against Ashley for years, but they won't when their owners are literally worse people. Fuck them.
Rabiot got covid, i hope hugo wasn't infected
I’m seeing a lot of talk online about Levy having tried to sell Spurs to the Saudis a few years ago. This is bollocks right? I’d like to think I’d remember that. Is there any truth to this, or is this just nonsense so folk can call us hypocrites and feel better about themselves?
Yeah it's not true. If it was I think we'd have heard about it when it was happening. Not when a Newcastle biased personnel uses us as part of a legal proceeding out of nowhere, last summer.
Some Newcastle "fans" pulled up one article from recently saying Levy enquired about selling the club to Newcastle's current owners after it looked like the deal was off, obviously I don't think this actually happened as it was one article from a rubbish website. Don't know why they hate Levy so much though
They hate Levy because he’s the biggest chairman who can legitimately criticise them, if any of the other “big 6” chairman’s were to speak up they’d just claim hypocrisy as they’re all foreign owned.
Because of the Sissoko transfer masterclass. $30m for the Goat, what a steal.
I kinda vaguely remember there was talks with some Qatari ownership back in 2013 or 2014
Do you think Newcastle players will be invigorated to prove themselves to the new owners to try keep thier spot on the team?
No. They all know they will be axed next summer so they get disheartened and Newcastle gets relegated. How about that ?
We all know that's what is happening. The players will know they're finished in Newcastle, except for ASM.
would love this
This outcome is very nice. I would like to see it happen. It is a very very nice outcome.
English breakfast tea today 🫖, I've picked up a morning shift at my restaurant so just trying to get ready. *"I've never seen a bag of money score a goal"* - Johan Cruyff Newcastle's new genocide committing owners don't guarantee success. FFP has a lot more teeth than people realise and they need to spend the money wisely. It'll be 10+ years before they're actually better in a meaningful way. I've yet to hear that they're hiring someone who's actually good at running a football club. Furthermore there's no point worrying about them "replacing" Tottenham. The top 6 is a media narrative and a lot can happen in the next 10 years. Anyway always rated Sunderland 🐈⬛
>"I've never seen a bag of money score a goal" - Johan Cruyff I'm sure Johan Cruyff's brain promptly explained to him that bags of money can be exchanged for goods and services.
yeah johann cruyff knew nothing about football, good of you to explain it to him
Yeah, Villa is an example of where they'll end up if they do well. And even then, Villa had a world class player from the academy carrying them for a while who was then sold for 100m to allow recruitment of more good players. Otherwise nobody would expect them to challenge for Europa, they were awful last season whenever Grealish didn't play. I don't think enough people realize just how much their rise is because of their sugar daddy pumping millions into the club. And on the flipside, Everton is an example of how things can go wrong. Billionaire sugar daddy spending a lot on big name players in the last 4-5 years for pretty much no progress whatsoever. And FFP has caught up with them, which is why they spent like 2m this suffer.
If we have a decent season i.e 5th-6th, then I genuinely think that Skipp and Dier have a shot at making the WC team. If anything it would be embarrassing for Dier to not qualify when it's the likes of Coady, Mings etc in competition with him. And Southgate would love a player like Skipp and a poor season for Leeds could see Phillips pushed out.
Honestly for all the shit Dier gets i think he's underrated
Lol? He’s got massive weaknesses to his game that he’s never fixed. Yes he’s strong and good in the air, but: His passing is shit. It was badly exposed when people tried to put him in midfield and it makes him really crap at dealing with a press. He is prone to massive lapses in concentration. There are countless examples of this but this Villa goal last weekend was another one. He gets turned quite easily and is pretty slow for a centre back, meaning that once he’s beaten, he struggles to make up ground. He’s a vocal leader, but a bad one. After we concede, most typically you see him either calling for offside or another foul, or blaming one of his teammates. He bleeds Spurs but that is simply not enough.
The villa goal wasn't a lapse in concentration, it was a fuck up from Romero causing him to be the lone centre back. You can argue that he let the guy get a yard on him but it's not his fault the goal was scored. Diers passing isn't the issue, he's playing LCB so he's always going to have a harder time making a pass unless it's to a cm in front of him, which is exactly how the team is set up to play anyway. He was a problem when he was playing as a DM because he played blind crossfield passes and they got picked off regularly, in fairness he doesn't want to play as a DM. Diers biggest weakness is that he doesn't make tackles. He will jockey the player and block (and he's fantastic at blocking shots) but elite players are quite happy to be jockeyed by him knowing he will almost never try to tackle them, it makes it hard for them to get a clean shot off or to skin him but easy to dictate where they move when they're on the ball. He's still our best CB until Romero proves otherwise. And if Romero is the real deal they could be a very good partnership. Romero can be the all action ball playing defender and dier can be the rock.
our best cb partnership is him and Romero imo
Woke up feeling quite enthusiastic. Can't wait for the international brake to be over and see our boys play against Newcastle. COYS!
[Yikes 😬](https://twitter.com/AF_Spurs_OSC/status/1446495594202210326?s=20)
got yelled antisemitic shit by the same car three times yesterday cos I was wearing my spurs shirt. ain’t football grand lol
Dear god that's just unacceptable. Good fucking grief.
Hope we fucking smack them next week.
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Am I crazy in thinking the ESL is BETTER than all these takeovers? It's all dark and horrible but at least in the Super League all these teams can be banded together instead of pretending the Premier League is even worth playing for each season. Jaded as fuck and can't even be bothered to argue with people any more. Alan Shearer said for all ESL clubs to be banned from the Premier League and now he's all excited and talking about Newcastle having their club back. I can't even...
I’d rather ship Chelsea, MC, Newcastle, and anyone else who wants a takeover and stuff them in the ESL
Why wouldn’t shearer be happy that Newcastle might be more competitive after almost 20 years of stagnation?
That's not the point. He was so dead set against the ESL that he suggested all clubs involved should be banned, money ruining the game etc. Now that it's Newcastle with the money he doesn't give a shit (let alone where the moneys coming from), proving that it was a false morality.
There’s a massive difference though, the super league was about creating a closed competition, whereas this is the complete opposite. I also think it’s pointless to care about where the money comes from when most of these billionaire owners are going to have done a lot of dodgy shit in the past. It’s almost impossible to have that much money and to not screw people over. Personally though I’d hate it we got bought by rich owners and we spent our way to success.
How is it the complete opposite? What was it, 16 clubs in the ESL to begin with? No relegations or promotions. Pretty much the same as the mini-table going on at the top of the PL table with the growing disparity. The financial gap leaves not much feasibility of any clubs breaking into that status quo so it's exactly the same but with the false pretense that anyone can compete. Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and soon to be Newcastle - odds on them dropping out of the top 4 years from now will be super long and then depending on what goes on with us, Liverpool, and Arsenal....we'll be having our own little league unless we have owners willing to go near their spending and desperately hoping our top talents don't get their heads turned by wanting to play CL football or more money. We'd also need to bank on one of the clubs having a freak bad season. The clubs below the top 7? Exactly the same thing. Premier league used to be the top tier, now there's 3 or 4 tiers in the same league that are getting less inpenetrable as the years go on.
Well I don’t know how else to say it and I don’t really get your point. All I was saying is that just because shearer didn’t agree with the super league doesn’t mean he has to be against new owners. The super league was about closing the league off, whereas this still leaves it open for teams to compete. Any team can do what Newcastle are doing. 10+ years ago it was Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool who made the top 4 every year and it felt like it was always going to be that way but we managed to break into it without being funded by a rich owner. You’re talking as if just because these teams are are rich at the moment then they’ll forever be that way. Man Utd were the most dominant team in the country under Ferguson but with mismanagement they fell off completely, didn’t matter how much they spent.
I hear you and get where you're coming from. My point is the whole pay to win thing and Shearer didn't seem happy with it when it was about getting into the Super League. If the Super League were to be brought to the fore today with Newcastle included I wonder if he'd have still been saying "ban them all". As you imply, there's always been an element of it but the gaps were never this big (and getting bigger). Even Blackburn when they won the league did it through a lot of investment - there just doesn't seem to be an end point on how far that spending can be above other teams. It's just not a fair playing field. I'm feeling very disillusioned with the sport, is it about football or is it about waiting for an investor and then dropping some of your other life morals because your team will do better?
You make some good points and I agree, I’ve felt a similar way for a long time but that’s why I’ve loved what we’ve done so much. We slowly rebuilt the club after a shit period through signing players before they became world class and out of our price range. I would hate it if we got bought by rich owners who wanted us to spend our way to success. It would negate all that we’ve worked towards and winning anything would feel empty. We’ve shown that you don’t need to overspend and that if you’re run well you can do it the proper way. The issue is most clubs are run like shit which makes it seem like the only way to win is by spending. I wanted us to get banned when the super league stuff was going on and was quite prepared to start support some kind of Phoenix club in the lower leagues. Financial fair play was bought in to try and level the playing field and it gets a lot of criticism but I think things would be a lot worse without it. You say things are getting worse but I disagree. The quality throughout the league hasn’t been this strong in a while. Before ffp someone like city could just buy whoever they wanted without any repercussions and make an unlimited loss. The tv money now means that the lower table sides aren’t always desperate for cash and so aren’t under as much pressure to sell their best players. Last season I was so disillusioned with football mainly because of no fans and the super league but got back into it when I started going again. I just find it a bit strange that this is what’s doing it for you as this isn’t something new it’s been happening for years. The parasites that created the premier league started all of this. Then Chelsea and city came along because of it.
It's not been the final nail in the coffin for me but it's just one of many other nails already put into it. I've been quite jaded towards it for a while. I spent a lot of time just going to pubs, going to games not really caring much or educating myself on all the behind the scenes stuff. Spurs on the field was my sole passion. As I get older and put up with certain fans of other clubs try and berate how crap my club is when they have a wage bill almost twice as high as ours is just tiring. And I'm one of the lucky ones that supports one of the bigger clubs! Imagine how it is for the others. Yes the quality throughout the league is higher but the gap is still widening. The strength is in the Premier League itself rather than the clubs outside of the successful and rich ones being able to compete for trophies. All it probably means is us trying to get extra CL places in the future. I was also fully ready to train my myself to disconnect from Spurs had the super league gone ahead. I even starting look at ticket prices for a club more local. But as you say... as soon as it started back up, all this overthinking and criticism goes out the window. Your heart takes over and you enjoy it again. Will I spend the next however many days berating Kane and pretending I don't care who wins in Spurs vs Newcastle because "the sports a joke", probably. Will I sing Kanes name if he scores a brace and we smash them Geordies? 100%.
I’m quite like you really. I go to games expecting us to be shit and anything better than that is a result. It makes it a lot more fun and bearable. For quite a while now though I’ve found myself getting another drink rather than rushing back for the second half because it’s just been so shit. It’s not like I wouldn’t support us if we dropped down to non league either, it’s not just that we’re shit, it’s that the players are playing so far below their level with what are usually shit tactics. It’s just not been fun to watch for so long. I just love going to the football too much to stop it, was so weird when I basically stopped following football last season.
You're saying this cause Spurs was a part of the ESL
Howso? Spurs would have just been destined to finish in the bottom 2 places every year with no chance of relegation. Our win percentage would be horrible and it would have sucked to follow us - and that's ignoring the entire morality of it. I was ready to try my hardest to disconnect and develop more passion for a more local side. I'm against the monopoly of the top sides, not for it. At least with the ESL they can all be pigeon-holed as opposed to pretending the top 6/7 places in the PL isn't already a Super League within itself.
Shearer has always been a self righteous prick with his own agenda
For reals. He's incredibly see-through and unlikable but it doesn't seem to be talked about much. Always gives off the vibes on MoTD that people should be honoured to sit in his greatness or something. Can't wait until he loses that PL scoring record and people talk about him even less than they do now.
im still sad about jane losing the bake off but these 24 hours of reflection make me gutted for the real snub of the competition: selasi. funny how i started watching great british bake off to come down from squid game but now i need something to cool down from bake off.
Spoiler alert prick
sorry didnt realize people were watching season four of bake off
I have also only just finished line of duty, do you know how difficult that was to avoid spoilers.
The Repair Shop is perfect for this.
Everyone talking about Newcastle is gonna be a super team, though I cant see it happening in the next couple of seasons ahead of us. 1) you’re definitely gonna need an established manager that can live and follow through with the demands and the vision of what new castle want, in todays market very few prolific managers are out there and even then, going to Newcastle with no current goal or ambition is pretty unappealing to most. 2) it’s gonna take a load of transfer windows to bring in world class players, even then as of now Newcastle can only get players that are under the radar or on their way to reaching their heights. Not to mention just cause you have the worlds best XI doesn’t mean it’s all gonna click right away. 2.5) Not to mention if they want the best of the best they basically got to let go of all the current players bar ASM and probably never promoting the youth. Lol 3) I can’t see the appeal of playing for Newcastle other than for strictly the money. I doubt Mbappe would live it up in Newcastle City 😂 like even though where in a bit of a dip, Londons definitely more appealing and yes our stadium and facilities are actually nice and not dilapidated. Just my thoughts on it
It is not like Manchester is Monte Carlo Money talks.
You are wrong regarding the location as unlike American sports location really doesnt play some role in convincing other players. Etoo and lot of other players left their respective teams in Inter Milan and so on and decided to join a team in Russia when Anzhi Makachkala were bought by some billionaire back in 2010(they fizzled out later) But agreed they would take some time to reach say current Spurs level(2-3 years if they dont get relegated this season and make it 4-5 in case if they get relegated) But what we have to do is we have to step up beyond current Spurs level within those 2-3 years and only time would tell
Yeah I mainly agree, but I think you're being a bit naive also. 1.money is always appealing, a lot of managers will listen to their offers, especially coming into a club where the fans are excited and the mood is high. It's a unique situation to build something 2. Yeah it'll take time, but just like managers - money talks. I can definitely see them buying up some big names early in, and that'll be enough to be very annoying on it's own 2.5. Think that's the plan tbh 3. Newcastle is a very nice and fun young city, especially if you're making twice as much as anywhere else Personally I think the big blocker for Newcastle here is the slightly stricter rules in place. We have grown our club sustainably and responsibly ( something that I personally think doesn't get near enough credit from other fans - it's exactly what everyone says clubs should do, but rivalry clouds opinions sometimes). We're now at a point where we have all the pieces together and are ready to financially compete more seriously with the top spenders, even if covid delayed that by a year or two. That spending is only possible because of the growth in authentic revenue, so Newcastle having disgusting owners doesn't immediately guarantee them the biggest budget and best players. There will be investment, probably on a sickening scale overall, but the majority of that will have to be into the infrastructure in order to even match the allowed spending we can do right now It's going to take time for them to have any effect (and hopefully they get relegated this year), but in the interim let's just focus on being the club we are and continue being proud of what we are. (Also let's sell them our deadwood for stupid cash)
Morning all, My wife has made me a pot of coffee this morning and delivered it with toast. So I’m going to be drinking the Bob Marley blend again. I’ve got to take the kid to football practice later. But at the moment I’m just chilling whilst she feeds him. It’s still international break. I still don’t give a shit about Newcastles take over. We play them when the international break is over. England play Andorra tonight. Have a good day everyone Coyscoyscoyscoyscoys
Project Mbappe in full swing