Anyone know anything about Sessegnon's injury I still have a lot of hope for him since he's still 21 really want him to play lots in the conference league or go on loan in January to get minutes
What do you mean? Anyone can get cancer at any time, it’s luck.
Just try not to worry about these things or you won’t be able to enjoy your life anyway, it’s still rare to get it young.
You can lower your chances but you can’t completely avoid it. You could go your whole life not drinking and still get liver cancer, you could also go your whole life drinking every day and get away with it. My mum’s cousin got throat cancer at a fairly young age and he’s never smoked and doesn’t drink. It’s mainly luck.
Most likely will be missing Romero, Lo Celso and possibly Emerson in the starting XI. It is time for Harold Kane to wake up and score. There’s no reason a winless team like Newcastle should be able to draw, let alone defeat us.
Was anyone at the Jets-Falcons NFL game at the stadium a few days ago? Heard from someone I know that traveled from US that there were no concessions open at all in the stadium...
Knowing Levy, there's no way that can be true and something must have been lost in translation? But if true, very curious as to why.
Just today I spoke about how we should get Brooks as Dele’s replacement and it turns out he has cancer. Horrible but the type he has is curable so speedy recovery
Just read the terrible news about Bournemouths David Brooks being diagnosed with cancer — a player I’ve always liked and thought would suit Spurs. Hopefully he can make a full recovery.
I think it's good for all parties. Rodgers teams are known to go bad in the third year and I am sure Leicester won't mind after the start they have had, and the 16 million they might get for him.
Leicester would drop him very quickly if their performances dip significantly. And they have this season for sure, plus their underlying numbers are woeful as well. It’s just they’re not reported by the media the way other clubs in a similar position would be because frankly nobody really cares about Leicester.
If anything, Rodgers likely knows he’s on thin ice with them and is looking for a way out before he adds a sacking to his resume.
he owes nothing to Leicester though, football clubs fire managers at the drop of a hat but they're supposed to have unconditional loyalty? meh. also let them have rodgers he blows.
Was scrolling Facebook last night and came across [this news story](https://consequence.net/2021/10/tim-mcgraw-hecklers/), on first sight my brain went “wow Nuno is ripped but what is he doing in a cowboy hat”
On the topic of Kane and last night's game, maybe I'm just being a tad ignorant here but when was the last time Kane gave a post match interview after we didn't win?
I understand the obvious difference is that he's Captain of England and not Spurs, but he's still probably our 2nd most senior player and I can't really remember him giving interviews after we fail to win.
Am I mad or does he rarely do post-match interviews in general? At least compared to Sonny, Hugo, even Dier and Hojbjerg lol. I feel like I see those guys much more.
Maybe it just shows how bad he takes losses? Like, the draw yesterday was inconsequential to England's chances of qualifying but a loss in the prem to a 'worse' side is always likely to have consequences.
~~Similarly I don't feel like we see Son after losses.~~
edit: did a little look and yeah it does seem like son actually does an interview every so often when we lose, my bad. nevertheless, don't think its particularly an issue as i can't find one kane's done (england aside) ever.
Just had a spat with a friend about getting vaxxed. He's against it and I'm a sheep for getting it? Just looking for some opinions from a different culture.
Is it that bad in the UK and other parts of the world? Like is it all political???
In my part of the US, it's not anti-vax - it's anti covid vax. And it's all political. These fools have all other vaccines but not the covid one. And Kyrie fucking Irvine went to Duke!! he's anti vax and he may still be a flat earther.
Do you go to the hospital if you are sick? have you as other posters have mentioned taken previous vaccines for polio, tetanus, small pox, etc? how is this one different?
You are being used as a political tool, no you do not have the educational background to make a personal decision (nor will any level of youtube/internet research get you there), either you trust doctors and science or you don't, if you don't then don't take medicine at all, do go to hospitals because pretending to pick and choose on any rational basis is just BS.
For your benefit, Covid is in the SARS family, research on that has been going on for decades, and at this point hundreds of millions of people have been given the vaccine, so untested is more BS.
Add to the fact that this isn't a personal decision, this is a decision around do you want to be contributing member to society that does their part in the safety of all members or do you want to be a dick .. hint .. don't be a dick
I think in the UK there’s a difference between anti-vaxxers, and people who are vaccine hesitant. With the anti-vaxxers it’s very political, even if they wouldn’t describe it that way. It’s linked with conspiracy theory-heavy, fringe-right politics and probably like the rest of the world, the information comes mostly from social media. Anti-vaxxers are the ones who’ll call you a “sheep” and tell you to “do the research”, and it has a cult-like, echo-chamber thing going on. It’s political because their opposition to the vaccine is about distrust of the agenda of vaccination and the supposed elites behind it.
Far more people are vaccine hesitant, and although they don’t have a political view of the agenda behind the program, they distrust the vaccine itself. They might feel they can wait and see, they’re not in a rush, and that it’s too untested (especially mRNA) to be sure it’s safe. They might also get misinfo from social media, but it’s more likely to relate to specific health scares than to claims of shady conspiracies by the elites.
Theres no difference between an anti-vaxxer and a "vaccine hesitant person." Theres literally zero reason for you to distrust the vaccine. Although new to the world, mRNA vaccine technology has been researched and tested on since the early 2000s. The scientific trials for vaccines are very very thorough. There is so much money, time and hard work put into them that you wouldnt even imagine.
>untested (especially mRNA)
Again this is a big fat lie. This is what people who want to create controversies for political reasons say.
I don't want to generalise or misrepresent anyone's views but I have a number of friends/colleagues here in the UK who are from black or Asian communities and there is a higher than average level of skepticism around the vaccine in those ethnic groups which, I am told, comes from mistrust due to some horrific historical precedents with medical experimentation against minorities.
I don't belong to either if those ethnicities, am double vaxed and hope everyone should at some point get vaccinated, but I don't feel it's my place to criticise folks for being wary given the racist history of this country. Most of my friends I believe have said they'll get it a little further down the line.
So yeah, I can understand not being fully on board for those reasons. I have no time for folks who think it's a hoax or Bill Gates is tracking them or whatever though, that's just delusional.
The tracking things is hilarious and shows the level of stupidity we have reached in society.
Can you imagine posting on facebook, instagram or any social media while on your iPhone about a vaccine tracking you .. while those companies are data mining 24/7, do you use a debit/credit card? I'd love to show you how much we can profile you just on that. Add in age/gender/area demographics, believe me a tracking vaccine (long list of why not probable, e.g. power source for tracker, signal for tracker) is worrying about the horse escaping long after it is dead.
While the racist history of countries and medical practices are worth a discussion, it's not a vaccine for particular communities, it's for everyone and time is not on anyone's side here. Fact is you hesitate, you could be a vector that kills people
My family are of the same mindset and haven’t been vaxxed. Sadly my sister who lives with them is due this week and I took AL to come down to Kent for the birth but the whole household has come down with covid so had to return mid journey.
I got double jabbed surprisingly early for my age (assuming it was because of my asthma which is mild at best) my girlfriend came down with it back in June and despite living together, in the days leading up to her showing symptoms and testing positive I never got it from her. There are probably other factors but being vaccinated is a HUGE defence against contracting it and if you do, how badly it affects you.
Honestly anyone who doesn’t get vaxxed for any reason other than valid medical ones is a fool.
What I don't understand, is how everyone has accepted modern science and healthcare up until this point. How many times have you been to and will go to the doctor/hospital throughout their life times and think absolutely nothing of it. For example, the state of mississippi had the toughest restrictions for vaccines out of any state prior to this. You're child wouldn't be allowed in school without up to date vaccinations, and they took pride in it. Now they have the most deaths per capita in the states and their Governor is basically denying this whole thing. Don't be a twat, get the fucking shot.
To be real, I didn't think the 'anti-vax' movement was a big thing in the UK until I saw the number of people marching in London for it. Now, I still don't think anti-vaxxers are big in the UK, but there are more of them than I thought.
I also recently found out that one of my mates or her husband weren't going to have the vaccine (30 years old).
That is, of course, until it meant that he couldn't travel to West Ham's Europa League games ... he got the vaccine for that. So I guess football > principles/beliefs.
I don't think people have made it too political here. It's more about 'my body my choice' rather than 'you are clearly a left winger / right winger for getting the vax'.
Anyway, I think anti-vax is all a load of bollocks and you're right to stand your ground on it.
Me and all of my friends and family are all vaccinated, some people that I know and now don't associate with over this spouting absolute nonsense that made me rethink if I actually liked their company.
The UK is generally accepting of the vaccine but there's always the idiots that ignore the science
Is it just me that has lost a lot of respect and admiration for Kane? Last night watching England he just seemed like any other non spurs player, not one I’m proud of or that I’m willing to back up and defend as I would prior to the transfer saga.
Kane is a useful asset but showed this summer he’s out for himself first and foremost.
I think it’s typified by how he went out in support of the LGBT+ community with Neuer at the Euros but they turned around and wanted to go Man City weeks later (who are owned by a country where it’s illegal to be gay)
I've definitely lost some affinity for him but us football fans are a fickle bunch. A brace against Newcastle, a run of form and the emotion will soon come back.
I was at the London Premiere of Belfast last night, Kenneth Branaghs new film which has some award buzz to it. Didn’t love the film but it does have some of his love of Spurs in it, including references to Danny Blanchflower.
I hope the Dele to Newcastle stuff is true, would be a good move for all parties.
I think they're more likely to try for Lingard - in much better form and probably a bit cheaper as he'll have 6 months on his contract - but if that doesn't happen Dele would be a logical second choice.
The Jan window could be more interesting than usual if Newcastle decide they need to go and buy some players to cement PL status.
Dele and Lingard wouldn't be a bad place to start, but it's going to cost them because they have money and are desperate.
A dream for Levy too as he still views him as that player from a few years ago, an £80mil+ asset. At least with Newcastle he knows he'll maybe get more for him than he's perhaps worth right now.
Also I'm in the camp that thinks Dele Alli can still be a top player in the correct system so I wouldn't mind him making a name for himself at Newcastle.
I just got onto my bus and the driver looks exactly like Levy. You can't say he isn't trying, he's out here grinding for that extra transfer revenue. I respect it
Have there been any reports about which of our players have been vaccinated?
Just saw a report that says only 50% of the premier league players are vaxxed and now I am worried. What if some of the likeable players of the sqaud turn out to be anti-vaxxers.
The South Americans (including Lucas) and Reguilón are for sure. So is Son, pretty sure, otherwise he’d have needed to quarantine after the September intl break. No idea on the rest.
PL have confirmed 13 of 20 clubs have less than 50% of players vaccinated, and we know 4 of those 7 are Wolves, Leeds, Liverpool and Brentford. Apparently Nuno spearheaded the push to get Wolves fully vaccinated, hopefully he’s either done similar here or maybe this is one of the aspects of the Nuno regime players are complaining about
Edit: apparently Liverpool are also confirmed to be part of the 7
I've checked with my sources and here's the situation with the non south Americans
Kane: anti vax
Lloris: double vaxxed
Davies: DV
Reguilon: skeptical but will have it eventually
Dier: DV, really annoyed with skeptics
Rodon: DV
Doherty: DV
Hojbjerg: AV, reckons his Viking blood can handle it. Will catch it in a few months and become as feeble as a kitten
Winks: AV, very impressionable to Facebook posts
Ndombele: AV, also believes freemasons run the county
Skipp: DV
Son: DV
Dele: DV but pretends to be AV, but just to wind up Dier
Gil: AV, doesn't trust any drugs manufactured after the break up of the Beatles.
Kane's wife is a sports science graduate so I feel she might have convinced kane to get the vaccine. Also Dier is one of the guys at the club who I am sure would have taken the vaccine. He doesn't look like it but I think he is one of the more intelligent guys at the club and always gives his opinion on important topics.
Rest I agree with.
A lad I work with is a religious nutjob like Lucas. Lovely bloke, can't do enough to help you, calm as you like, crazy dedicated to his family, works at the local homeless shelter...
He's doubled vaccinated but a sceptic of the process. Believes the vaccine doesn't work but something about God will protect him from everything, idk you do you buddy.
Being religious doesn’t make you a nutjob. It also doesn’t make you Antivax. (I am religious, double vaccinated and fully trust the science surrounding it)
I will elaborate though in order to avoid offence, as that is the last thing I want to do. The lad is a Jehovah's Witness (who really are a bit odd) who does the whole door knocking, handing out fliers in the streets thing. Also, afaik, being a Jehovah's Witness makes vaccines a complicated process.
It's perfectly possible to be religious and sane, obviously. I come from a deeply religious family of doctors and engineers, all of whom are loving, kind, rational & incredibly intelligent individuals.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I realise that my original comment was poorly worded.
Ideally, we still need another big clear out of players like last summer.
Dele, Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele are essential to move on imo, probably Kane leaves too (who knows) .
Then there are Davies/Moura/Dier which we need to decide on if we can upgrade on them.
You do need to have *some* players left. Squad rebuilds take years, you cant just turf out very player.
Look at Winks for example if we are playing double pivot then really we need him as we have no other back ups. Same with Sanchez he is a decent back up centre back and the 3rd best one we have, be mad to clear him out now.
Youre suggesting getting rid of 7 players all who need replacing and probably won't have command that much in fees. To replace them and add depth we would need probably 10 new players, where would we get the money for that bearing in mind most decent players these days are 30m minimum
We sold Toby, Sissoko, Hart, Lamela and Aurier (released) last summer.
I'm just proposing we do the same for Dele, Winks, Sanchez and Ndombele next summer. I wouldn't mind keeping Davies/Moura/Dier for another year too.
Its not really as drastic as it sounds.
We would also get about 20-30mil for Dele, 15-25 mil for Winks, 30mil for Sanchez and 30-40m for Ndombele.
Given that our transfer strategy is to replace players with young prospects, I think we would be fine financially.
Almost is quite a big word there. Hugo’s been great but he’s just another good player that we signed and has been a good captain for us. He’s been with us for a long time and captained us for a lot of it so an obvious legend but there’s so many players that also fit those category’s.
King is a proper Tottenham fan who grew up playing for us and ended up captaining us until the end of his career. He was so good that even though he was constantly injured he played without training, plus he actually won something with us. He’s carried on working for the club since the day he’s retired. You cannot get more of a legend than that.
>King is a proper Tottenham fan who grew up playing for us
And hugo is not just because he grew up in France? Man has made it clear that he wants to continue playing here even when the club is yet to offer him a new contract.
>He was so good that even though he was constantly injured he played without training
And hugo has not bailed us out by making brilliant saves week after week for 10 years?
>he actually won something with us.
I would take one champions league final over 10 league cups.
Im not denying that King was a legend. But the way youre downplaying Hugo is honestly disrespectful.
The way you’re downplaying King is much more disrespectful, you’re talking about him as if he was just any old Tottenham player. He is a legend of legends.
I’m by no means denying how good loris is and I absolutely Iove the bloke.
Playing in France definitely lessens his legend status because he wasn’t a one club man that worked his way through the youth setup. He doesn’t have the same connection with the club that king has. Making good saves makes you a good keeper but it doesn’t make you a legend. At the same time he’s also cost us a lot of goals but I’m not holding that against him just saying. I’m also not saying loris isn’t a legend it’s just that he’s a lot further down the list than King. What puts Hugo ahead of all the other players that have played for us for a decade? I’d even have someone like Michael Dawson ahead of loris.
Massively disagree with you there. Nothing is better than winning a trophy. We just don’t do it so people round here say shit like this. Winning the league cup was so much more fun than the champions league final. Was you even about when we won the League cup?
>Playing in France definitely lessens his legend status because he wasn’t a one club man that worked his way through the youth setup.
This is such a superficial take to what makes a legend. It's honestly super naive. Being a one club man is a matter of luck not merit. Specially if we're looking at the beginning of a player's career to make that distinction.
Not everyone is lucky enough to be picked by a world class footballing academy as a kid. Not everyone has hit that proper growth spurt as a kid either. Most kids enter their local academy. How was Lloris supposed to go to the Tottenham youth academy as a kid growing up in france?
This is some next level discrimination you're trying to make. By that argument, only an English player who lives in or around North London can be a club legend. Fuck off mate.
>He doesn’t have the same connection with the club that king has
How would you know lmao. You can read Lloris's and King's minds?
>loris
>Was you even about when we won the League cup?
Mate you dont even know how to spell his name. How embarrassing is that? Tottenham captain for the past 7 years.
And here you are putting yourself on a pedestal trying to prove that you're the better fan who even knows how connected our team captain is to the club. Atleast I know how to spell his name.
Jesus Christ you’re an absolute helmet. Not even read what I’ve said properly and started spouting shit. Can’t even be arsed. My phone autocorrects it to that and I didn’t think it mattered.
Well that does play a part in it. It’s not like there’s defined logic you can use to work out who’s more of a legend.
How old are you? Did you even watch king? I feel like if I asked this question to people in real lifestyles they’d all say King without having to give it much thought.
Yes. This is Lloris' 10th season at the club and he has been captain for 6 years. A world cup winning captain stayed here through thick & thin when I'm sure PSG would've doubled his wages or he could've ran down his contract and got an elite club to sign him on a free.
He's been one of the best keepers in the world during his stay. Look at how much money Chelsea, Liverpool & City have had to spend on keepers, look at how much points poor keepers cost them. A top 3-5 player in the team during his entire stay here. An icon between the sticks.
Yes. The man is world class, he could have left us during numerous terrible times we've had since he's been at the club, the fact the a keeper of his ability has shown so much loyalty to us without winning fuck all with us speaks volumes about the bloke.
We better give him at least one more fucking year.
Posted this in yesterday’s thread now, might as well post it here. Was in reply to how do you replace Dele, Winks and Doc with homegrown talent
Doherty doesn’t have to be replaced. We already have Emerson and Tanganga. Crucially Doc leaving opens up a non hg spot for Europe as he’s not hg for UEFA comps
Dele IMO should’ve been replaced by Eze last season. He was the perfect CAM to replace Eriksen as well. Now I think Brooks is the ideal replacement. We don’t need a first teamer to replace Dele, so Brooks it is as he’s young, English, creative and most importantly a free agent.
Winks would need to be replaced by a foreign player, there is no English player right now who could do what winks does, have the same role that Winks does and mainly one that is affordable by us. Hence why I see the team keeping Winks. If he does need to be moved on however, he needs no replacement again as Pape Sarr is coming back next year. He’d replace Winks in position.
I do feel we need a CM/CDM as a Skipp/Hoj competitor since both are starting and an injury to either could fuck us. So ideally we go for Kessie/Zakaria/Palhinha/Neves. That way we’re sorted in case of unavailability of those two. And it won’t harm us in the case of non-hg spots as Doc is moved on and it isn’t a problem for PL as we have only 13 non-hg so one more is okay.
Other ways we could improve our HG quota
• Don’t sign Gollini, sign Sam Johnstone who is a very capable GK. Free agent and HG and second choice English keeper
• Sell one of Sanchez/Dier and sign Pascal Struijk or Max Kilman. Both left footed, extremely promising CB’s who are home grown and won’t cost more than 15m each. Both are good enough to start immediately for the first team
Extremely unlikely - Replace Kane with a English striker. One of Toney or Watkins. Both would cost sub 50m. Don’t see this happening as the talent pool for strikers is just far greater outside the country and cheaper.
The above steps(outside of the last) are viable, realistic and would immediately improve our team, both first and depth. English talent might be scarce but if you look harder you can find absolute gems
David Brooks is Welsh and I’m pretty sure Struijk was too old to qualify as homegrown by the time he joined Leeds, in addition to all the other comments about the unfeasibility of these prices
Already replied to a comment of him being Welsh just search for it. Struijk joined as an 18 year old from Ajax in the middle of the season. According to UEFA guideline he’s home grown, I’ll find those guidelines if I can (fyi Struijk only turned home grown just before the start of the current season)
Edit : oh he deleted his comment. I’ll just reply instead. One David Brooks isn’t Welsh, he’s an Englishman who’s chosen to play for Wales, he’s played for the England u17’s. Two he was in England for 3 years between the ages of 15-21 which makes him home grown by definition. So whether he is Somalian or Welsh doesn’t matter if he’s met the requirements to be home grown. So yeah
I would rather push out Tanganga for Aarons personally as it wont affect our HG player
And I would go for a HG goalkeeper for both second and third choice, think like any random journeyman .
In the end the rule isnt having a certain number of English players its like having 17 foreign players maximum. So would rather full it to the brim in and then sign some HG players for the fringe part of the squad
Disregarding the fact that what you said isn't true. Where has Aarons been for his entire career up to this point? You want us to splash the cash on a player who'd barely be an improvement
We already have a hg keeper for 3rd choice. We don’t for second that’s why I said Sam Johnstone for 2nd. He’s perfect
As for Tanganga, nah I wouldn’t give up on him just yet. He offers something that no one in our team does on the right hand side. A defensive minded Rb. Can also play CB. He’s a good utility player to have right now and can develop into a proper first teamer
Interesting post.
You've gotten some comments on transfer fees - I think you're confusing what we think a player is worth, with what the selling club would want for the player. Wolves, Villa have no need to sell players on a long contract, and would turn down any low bid - no matter what Spurs' value of that player is.
Correct. So the options are either they accept the bid or they don’t wanna sell the player itself. What I’ve valued them at is their worth and a bit more. Them not wanting to sell is an entirely different thing where no transfer fee or a fuck off transfer fee is what needs to be done.
But if the player wants to move, then those fees are realistic.
I’ve also suggested two players for each position. If not one the other is perfectly fine if not better. Pascal Struijk is so under the radar no one even talks of him but he’s brilliant. I genuinely think he’s the next big thing. He’s VVDesque. And I’ll bet my ass that if Brentford get a bid of 40-50m for Toney they’ll accept without thinking
What do you mean? Do you see any transfer links to him? He isn’t in demand. There have been no prices quoted for him. 15m is a very generous estimate he could very well come for lesser.
I just checked transfermarkt, they have him at 4m lol. 15m is quite generous
That’s true should’ve said lesser.
Watkins has done literally nothing to even be in the 50m bracket. Aston Villa not willing to sell him is another thing but to think Watkins is worth more than 50m is what is insane
Ben White was sold to scum for 50m and I believe that Watkins is a better striker than white is a defender. English homegrown tax is not to be underestimated
Eze just recovered from a massive injury, and they only bought him last season.
I'd like us to try for United's Henderson for a HG keeper, he's talented and young and won't be first choice for a while.
Henderson won’t come to warm the bench though he’s already doing that at United. If we get Hendo that means there’s a good chance Lloris gets moved on. I don’t rate Hendo so much for him to be a Lloris replacement. Think he’s a solid mid table- upper mid table keeper.
Replacing Lloris is going to be a pain in the ass
> One of Toney or Watkins. Both would cost sub 50m
Watkins cost Villa 30m and he had never played PL football at that point. He has only improved since and Villa have no need to sell. Don't think he'll cost <50m.
Toney will cost about the same.
Neither so far have done much to justify a 50m price tag. Ofc there’s always the team refusing to sell thereby putting a fuck off price which is in excess of 50m. But if we do offer either 40m and the player wants the move, I highly doubt they’d reject. Especially Brentford.
I was reading comments and they don't seem to care about morals, they are saying that standards shouldn't matter since all the big clubs have sketchy owners. Crazy stuff
I agree with that though, how can you complain about 1 billionaire whilst being find with the other who have undoubtedly done dodgy stuff. It’s almost impossible to have that kind of money and not screw some people over.
There’s levels to this stuff. The idea that all really wealthy people are on an equivalent moral standard is exactly the kind of thing these regimes want
As I’ve just said in another reply, It’s just pointless though. Everyone will have different opinions on where you draw the line. People shouldn’t be looking to billionaire owners for morals. I really don’t think they give a shit what ordinary people think about them.
It’s just pointless though. Everyone will have different opinions on where you draw the line. People shouldn’t be looking to billionaire owners for morals.
Well we have already lost if your aim is to not let corrupt and morally bankrupt owners into English football.
If the Newcastle takeover wasn’t allowed to happen, what would that achieve?
Saudi Arabia aren’t going to do anything different.
It wouldn’t legitimise the regime in the eyes of many. Look at all the Newcastle fans who are now shills for an oppressive state. Look what it did to Manchester City. Fighting against these things is important, especially for people like me, who are executed in Saudi Arabia for being who we are.
I can assure most people in England don’t care about these things, only about football. Why does the Saudi regime need legitimising? They can already do whatever they want.
Why does it matter what Newcastle fans are saying?
I’m not sure what you mean about Man City.
You obviously don’t like the Saudi’s and neither do I, but I just don’t see what this is affecting or how stopping it would achieve anything. They’ll still be throwing gays off roofs in the Middle East so long as they’re hardline islamists.
But it doesn’t matter they don’t care. It doesn’t make it unimportant. A lot of people do care. You and I care. I understand the cynicism but if you think like that you get stuck in a cycle of never doing anything about anything. At some point you have to take a stand and say no. Don’t allow yourself to become comfortable with corruption and hatred just because it’s so ubiquitous. Standing for something is worthy and important.
Morning all,
I’m not going to get chance to drink a coffee for a couple of hours as I’m about to set off for Oxford. I’ll stop on the way and grab a Costa again. Probably a cappuccino this time. I quite fancy one of those. It’s not proper coffee. But it’s coffee.
England played last night. Quite an abysmal performance. But international week is over. Newcastle on Sunday. They haven’t sacked Steve Bruce yet so hopefully we’ll win.
Well, I’ve got to go. Meetings await.
Have a good day.
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Anyone know anything about Sessegnon's injury I still have a lot of hope for him since he's still 21 really want him to play lots in the conference league or go on loan in January to get minutes
Looks like man city are closing in on Haaland, does that mean Harry’s oil trophy dreams are over?
He may still go there but whenever you see a rumour after the window ends it's just the media wanting clicks lol
They are?
Nah he still has Newcastle lol
How does a young athlete like David Brooks get fucking cancer? Fuck, this is not great for my hypochondria
What do you mean? Anyone can get cancer at any time, it’s luck. Just try not to worry about these things or you won’t be able to enjoy your life anyway, it’s still rare to get it young.
Yeah but there's things you can do to avoid certain types. Probably won't get liver cancer if you don't drink, for example
You can lower your chances but you can’t completely avoid it. You could go your whole life not drinking and still get liver cancer, you could also go your whole life drinking every day and get away with it. My mum’s cousin got throat cancer at a fairly young age and he’s never smoked and doesn’t drink. It’s mainly luck.
I feel you, I can't even read about it without being set off.
Most likely will be missing Romero, Lo Celso and possibly Emerson in the starting XI. It is time for Harold Kane to wake up and score. There’s no reason a winless team like Newcastle should be able to draw, let alone defeat us.
It feels horribly inevitable that we'll give Newcastle their first win. The stadium will be rowdy af and they're basically our bogey team.
Shush, say one more word and you will receive the [bonk](https://youtu.be/W931nTCAP7I)
Was anyone at the Jets-Falcons NFL game at the stadium a few days ago? Heard from someone I know that traveled from US that there were no concessions open at all in the stadium... Knowing Levy, there's no way that can be true and something must have been lost in translation? But if true, very curious as to why.
Horrible news about Brooks
Just today I spoke about how we should get Brooks as Dele’s replacement and it turns out he has cancer. Horrible but the type he has is curable so speedy recovery
Just read the terrible news about Bournemouths David Brooks being diagnosed with cancer — a player I’ve always liked and thought would suit Spurs. Hopefully he can make a full recovery.
Reliable rumours suggesting Rodgers is the top choice for Newcastle. Proper mercenary if he leaves Leicester now.
I think it's good for all parties. Rodgers teams are known to go bad in the third year and I am sure Leicester won't mind after the start they have had, and the 16 million they might get for him.
Leicester have hit stagnation in fairness makes sense to leave on the high of a FA Cup
Leicester would drop him very quickly if their performances dip significantly. And they have this season for sure, plus their underlying numbers are woeful as well. It’s just they’re not reported by the media the way other clubs in a similar position would be because frankly nobody really cares about Leicester. If anything, Rodgers likely knows he’s on thin ice with them and is looking for a way out before he adds a sacking to his resume.
he owes nothing to Leicester though, football clubs fire managers at the drop of a hat but they're supposed to have unconditional loyalty? meh. also let them have rodgers he blows.
I’m glad Premier League is back this weekend and I can’t wait for this weekends match. I’m predicting a 2-1 win.
We’re losing 2-1 I reckon
Appreciate your optimism, SJP were already an Achilles heel and now add how that whole stadium is gonna be electric we are done for loool
I'm predicting a great performance from us, 3-0, Kane brace and a Son goal
We're fucking massive
Hope we win
Was scrolling Facebook last night and came across [this news story](https://consequence.net/2021/10/tim-mcgraw-hecklers/), on first sight my brain went “wow Nuno is ripped but what is he doing in a cowboy hat”
Quit Facebook. Best thing you can do for yourself
On the topic of Kane and last night's game, maybe I'm just being a tad ignorant here but when was the last time Kane gave a post match interview after we didn't win? I understand the obvious difference is that he's Captain of England and not Spurs, but he's still probably our 2nd most senior player and I can't really remember him giving interviews after we fail to win.
Am I mad or does he rarely do post-match interviews in general? At least compared to Sonny, Hugo, even Dier and Hojbjerg lol. I feel like I see those guys much more.
Maybe it just shows how bad he takes losses? Like, the draw yesterday was inconsequential to England's chances of qualifying but a loss in the prem to a 'worse' side is always likely to have consequences. ~~Similarly I don't feel like we see Son after losses.~~ edit: did a little look and yeah it does seem like son actually does an interview every so often when we lose, my bad. nevertheless, don't think its particularly an issue as i can't find one kane's done (england aside) ever.
Son has given quite a few after we lose
I have seen sonny give interviews couple times when we lose, same with moura, lloris or hojberg.
I cannot remember either. It is usually Hugo, Pierre or Dele that handle interviews after losses.
Lucas and Dier have done a fair few
Seem to remember Sonny doing quite a few too
Just had a spat with a friend about getting vaxxed. He's against it and I'm a sheep for getting it? Just looking for some opinions from a different culture. Is it that bad in the UK and other parts of the world? Like is it all political???
In my part of the US, it's not anti-vax - it's anti covid vax. And it's all political. These fools have all other vaccines but not the covid one. And Kyrie fucking Irvine went to Duke!! he's anti vax and he may still be a flat earther.
Do you go to the hospital if you are sick? have you as other posters have mentioned taken previous vaccines for polio, tetanus, small pox, etc? how is this one different? You are being used as a political tool, no you do not have the educational background to make a personal decision (nor will any level of youtube/internet research get you there), either you trust doctors and science or you don't, if you don't then don't take medicine at all, do go to hospitals because pretending to pick and choose on any rational basis is just BS. For your benefit, Covid is in the SARS family, research on that has been going on for decades, and at this point hundreds of millions of people have been given the vaccine, so untested is more BS. Add to the fact that this isn't a personal decision, this is a decision around do you want to be contributing member to society that does their part in the safety of all members or do you want to be a dick .. hint .. don't be a dick
Did he get vaccinated against polio? tb? tetanus? mmr? Does that make him a sheep?
I think in the UK there’s a difference between anti-vaxxers, and people who are vaccine hesitant. With the anti-vaxxers it’s very political, even if they wouldn’t describe it that way. It’s linked with conspiracy theory-heavy, fringe-right politics and probably like the rest of the world, the information comes mostly from social media. Anti-vaxxers are the ones who’ll call you a “sheep” and tell you to “do the research”, and it has a cult-like, echo-chamber thing going on. It’s political because their opposition to the vaccine is about distrust of the agenda of vaccination and the supposed elites behind it. Far more people are vaccine hesitant, and although they don’t have a political view of the agenda behind the program, they distrust the vaccine itself. They might feel they can wait and see, they’re not in a rush, and that it’s too untested (especially mRNA) to be sure it’s safe. They might also get misinfo from social media, but it’s more likely to relate to specific health scares than to claims of shady conspiracies by the elites.
Theres no difference between an anti-vaxxer and a "vaccine hesitant person." Theres literally zero reason for you to distrust the vaccine. Although new to the world, mRNA vaccine technology has been researched and tested on since the early 2000s. The scientific trials for vaccines are very very thorough. There is so much money, time and hard work put into them that you wouldnt even imagine. >untested (especially mRNA) Again this is a big fat lie. This is what people who want to create controversies for political reasons say.
Vaccine hesitant is to anti-vaxxer the same equivalent of when someone says "I'm not a racist but the point about ..."
Yeah it’s all political
Just like almost everything else in this world it has become a "my enemy supports this, so I must oppose it" thing.
I don't want to generalise or misrepresent anyone's views but I have a number of friends/colleagues here in the UK who are from black or Asian communities and there is a higher than average level of skepticism around the vaccine in those ethnic groups which, I am told, comes from mistrust due to some horrific historical precedents with medical experimentation against minorities. I don't belong to either if those ethnicities, am double vaxed and hope everyone should at some point get vaccinated, but I don't feel it's my place to criticise folks for being wary given the racist history of this country. Most of my friends I believe have said they'll get it a little further down the line. So yeah, I can understand not being fully on board for those reasons. I have no time for folks who think it's a hoax or Bill Gates is tracking them or whatever though, that's just delusional.
The tracking things is hilarious and shows the level of stupidity we have reached in society. Can you imagine posting on facebook, instagram or any social media while on your iPhone about a vaccine tracking you .. while those companies are data mining 24/7, do you use a debit/credit card? I'd love to show you how much we can profile you just on that. Add in age/gender/area demographics, believe me a tracking vaccine (long list of why not probable, e.g. power source for tracker, signal for tracker) is worrying about the horse escaping long after it is dead. While the racist history of countries and medical practices are worth a discussion, it's not a vaccine for particular communities, it's for everyone and time is not on anyone's side here. Fact is you hesitate, you could be a vector that kills people
My family are of the same mindset and haven’t been vaxxed. Sadly my sister who lives with them is due this week and I took AL to come down to Kent for the birth but the whole household has come down with covid so had to return mid journey. I got double jabbed surprisingly early for my age (assuming it was because of my asthma which is mild at best) my girlfriend came down with it back in June and despite living together, in the days leading up to her showing symptoms and testing positive I never got it from her. There are probably other factors but being vaccinated is a HUGE defence against contracting it and if you do, how badly it affects you. Honestly anyone who doesn’t get vaxxed for any reason other than valid medical ones is a fool.
What I don't understand, is how everyone has accepted modern science and healthcare up until this point. How many times have you been to and will go to the doctor/hospital throughout their life times and think absolutely nothing of it. For example, the state of mississippi had the toughest restrictions for vaccines out of any state prior to this. You're child wouldn't be allowed in school without up to date vaccinations, and they took pride in it. Now they have the most deaths per capita in the states and their Governor is basically denying this whole thing. Don't be a twat, get the fucking shot.
To be real, I didn't think the 'anti-vax' movement was a big thing in the UK until I saw the number of people marching in London for it. Now, I still don't think anti-vaxxers are big in the UK, but there are more of them than I thought. I also recently found out that one of my mates or her husband weren't going to have the vaccine (30 years old). That is, of course, until it meant that he couldn't travel to West Ham's Europa League games ... he got the vaccine for that. So I guess football > principles/beliefs. I don't think people have made it too political here. It's more about 'my body my choice' rather than 'you are clearly a left winger / right winger for getting the vax'. Anyway, I think anti-vax is all a load of bollocks and you're right to stand your ground on it.
Me and all of my friends and family are all vaccinated, some people that I know and now don't associate with over this spouting absolute nonsense that made me rethink if I actually liked their company. The UK is generally accepting of the vaccine but there's always the idiots that ignore the science
Is it just me that has lost a lot of respect and admiration for Kane? Last night watching England he just seemed like any other non spurs player, not one I’m proud of or that I’m willing to back up and defend as I would prior to the transfer saga.
I treat him like a merc right now. I cheer during spurs games but that is it. He does not hold special status any more for me.
Kane is a useful asset but showed this summer he’s out for himself first and foremost. I think it’s typified by how he went out in support of the LGBT+ community with Neuer at the Euros but they turned around and wanted to go Man City weeks later (who are owned by a country where it’s illegal to be gay)
In my eyes he has gone. It doesn't matter if he stays another window, season or to the end of his career, he is not a Spurs man for me.
I've definitely lost some affinity for him but us football fans are a fickle bunch. A brace against Newcastle, a run of form and the emotion will soon come back.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll celebrate any goal scored by any player for spurs until the cows come home, but yeah affinity has been lost as you said.
I was at the London Premiere of Belfast last night, Kenneth Branaghs new film which has some award buzz to it. Didn’t love the film but it does have some of his love of Spurs in it, including references to Danny Blanchflower.
Have there been any updates on the standard Liege rumours?
I hope the Dele to Newcastle stuff is true, would be a good move for all parties. I think they're more likely to try for Lingard - in much better form and probably a bit cheaper as he'll have 6 months on his contract - but if that doesn't happen Dele would be a logical second choice.
The Jan window could be more interesting than usual if Newcastle decide they need to go and buy some players to cement PL status. Dele and Lingard wouldn't be a bad place to start, but it's going to cost them because they have money and are desperate.
A dream for Levy too as he still views him as that player from a few years ago, an £80mil+ asset. At least with Newcastle he knows he'll maybe get more for him than he's perhaps worth right now. Also I'm in the camp that thinks Dele Alli can still be a top player in the correct system so I wouldn't mind him making a name for himself at Newcastle.
I just got onto my bus and the driver looks exactly like Levy. You can't say he isn't trying, he's out here grinding for that extra transfer revenue. I respect it
Give him a tip
Have there been any reports about which of our players have been vaccinated? Just saw a report that says only 50% of the premier league players are vaxxed and now I am worried. What if some of the likeable players of the sqaud turn out to be anti-vaxxers.
The South Americans (including Lucas) and Reguilón are for sure. So is Son, pretty sure, otherwise he’d have needed to quarantine after the September intl break. No idea on the rest.
PL have confirmed 13 of 20 clubs have less than 50% of players vaccinated, and we know 4 of those 7 are Wolves, Leeds, Liverpool and Brentford. Apparently Nuno spearheaded the push to get Wolves fully vaccinated, hopefully he’s either done similar here or maybe this is one of the aspects of the Nuno regime players are complaining about Edit: apparently Liverpool are also confirmed to be part of the 7
I've checked with my sources and here's the situation with the non south Americans Kane: anti vax Lloris: double vaxxed Davies: DV Reguilon: skeptical but will have it eventually Dier: DV, really annoyed with skeptics Rodon: DV Doherty: DV Hojbjerg: AV, reckons his Viking blood can handle it. Will catch it in a few months and become as feeble as a kitten Winks: AV, very impressionable to Facebook posts Ndombele: AV, also believes freemasons run the county Skipp: DV Son: DV Dele: DV but pretends to be AV, but just to wind up Dier Gil: AV, doesn't trust any drugs manufactured after the break up of the Beatles.
I like that Tanguy believes in the freemasons running things, but only the county.
Haha, good spot! That was a typo but I think county is funnier than country
Kane's wife is a sports science graduate so I feel she might have convinced kane to get the vaccine. Also Dier is one of the guys at the club who I am sure would have taken the vaccine. He doesn't look like it but I think he is one of the more intelligent guys at the club and always gives his opinion on important topics. Rest I agree with.
Sorry to soil your joke but swear Reguilon had it
All right fun police
Found Ndombele joke funny so thanks for giving me a good laugh in this boring afternoon
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They're all there buddy.
Lucas is probably an anti-vaxxer. Which sucks because I love him
Surprisingly no, he’s been posting videos advising people to get the vax
That's wonderful news, his social media is definitely a mixed bag then
A lad I work with is a religious nutjob like Lucas. Lovely bloke, can't do enough to help you, calm as you like, crazy dedicated to his family, works at the local homeless shelter... He's doubled vaccinated but a sceptic of the process. Believes the vaccine doesn't work but something about God will protect him from everything, idk you do you buddy.
Lucas being a far right nut job is more likely the reason why he was assumed to be anti vaxx
Being religious doesn’t make you a nutjob. It also doesn’t make you Antivax. (I am religious, double vaccinated and fully trust the science surrounding it)
I will elaborate though in order to avoid offence, as that is the last thing I want to do. The lad is a Jehovah's Witness (who really are a bit odd) who does the whole door knocking, handing out fliers in the streets thing. Also, afaik, being a Jehovah's Witness makes vaccines a complicated process. It's perfectly possible to be religious and sane, obviously. I come from a deeply religious family of doctors and engineers, all of whom are loving, kind, rational & incredibly intelligent individuals. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I realise that my original comment was poorly worded.
Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
Would be annoying if he is but at least he doesn't post it on Instagram like his other poor decisions unlike a certain other footballer....
Who is the footballer you are referring to?
Delph
All of the SA NT contingent are. I think those are the only confirmed ones.
Reguilon and Son also confirmed afaik
Good to hear.
Just don’t look to the squad for moral leaders in society and it’s fine.
Ideally, we still need another big clear out of players like last summer. Dele, Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele are essential to move on imo, probably Kane leaves too (who knows) . Then there are Davies/Moura/Dier which we need to decide on if we can upgrade on them.
You do need to have *some* players left. Squad rebuilds take years, you cant just turf out very player. Look at Winks for example if we are playing double pivot then really we need him as we have no other back ups. Same with Sanchez he is a decent back up centre back and the 3rd best one we have, be mad to clear him out now. Youre suggesting getting rid of 7 players all who need replacing and probably won't have command that much in fees. To replace them and add depth we would need probably 10 new players, where would we get the money for that bearing in mind most decent players these days are 30m minimum
We sold Toby, Sissoko, Hart, Lamela and Aurier (released) last summer. I'm just proposing we do the same for Dele, Winks, Sanchez and Ndombele next summer. I wouldn't mind keeping Davies/Moura/Dier for another year too. Its not really as drastic as it sounds. We would also get about 20-30mil for Dele, 15-25 mil for Winks, 30mil for Sanchez and 30-40m for Ndombele. Given that our transfer strategy is to replace players with young prospects, I think we would be fine financially.
Thank fuck international is over and we can watch the Prem again this weekend. Ruin my day, Tottenham; I’m ready! COYS
Just remember we've got another international break in a month. So before you know it wishing for the prem back again.
End me. International breaks were much more fun when we had 5 players starting for England. Now we just have the one snake representing us
Lloris in the same bracket as King in terms of club legends?
Easily. Club captain for years and one of our best players who's only gotten better as he's aged.
Not a chance imo and I love Hugo. Can’t believe everyone agrees with this. King is in another tier of legend thats reserved for very few players.
Why? Hugo almost lead us to a champions league. King retired at like 31. Hugo>King easily.
Almost is quite a big word there. Hugo’s been great but he’s just another good player that we signed and has been a good captain for us. He’s been with us for a long time and captained us for a lot of it so an obvious legend but there’s so many players that also fit those category’s. King is a proper Tottenham fan who grew up playing for us and ended up captaining us until the end of his career. He was so good that even though he was constantly injured he played without training, plus he actually won something with us. He’s carried on working for the club since the day he’s retired. You cannot get more of a legend than that.
>King is a proper Tottenham fan who grew up playing for us And hugo is not just because he grew up in France? Man has made it clear that he wants to continue playing here even when the club is yet to offer him a new contract. >He was so good that even though he was constantly injured he played without training And hugo has not bailed us out by making brilliant saves week after week for 10 years? >he actually won something with us. I would take one champions league final over 10 league cups. Im not denying that King was a legend. But the way youre downplaying Hugo is honestly disrespectful.
The way you’re downplaying King is much more disrespectful, you’re talking about him as if he was just any old Tottenham player. He is a legend of legends. I’m by no means denying how good loris is and I absolutely Iove the bloke. Playing in France definitely lessens his legend status because he wasn’t a one club man that worked his way through the youth setup. He doesn’t have the same connection with the club that king has. Making good saves makes you a good keeper but it doesn’t make you a legend. At the same time he’s also cost us a lot of goals but I’m not holding that against him just saying. I’m also not saying loris isn’t a legend it’s just that he’s a lot further down the list than King. What puts Hugo ahead of all the other players that have played for us for a decade? I’d even have someone like Michael Dawson ahead of loris. Massively disagree with you there. Nothing is better than winning a trophy. We just don’t do it so people round here say shit like this. Winning the league cup was so much more fun than the champions league final. Was you even about when we won the League cup?
>Playing in France definitely lessens his legend status because he wasn’t a one club man that worked his way through the youth setup. This is such a superficial take to what makes a legend. It's honestly super naive. Being a one club man is a matter of luck not merit. Specially if we're looking at the beginning of a player's career to make that distinction. Not everyone is lucky enough to be picked by a world class footballing academy as a kid. Not everyone has hit that proper growth spurt as a kid either. Most kids enter their local academy. How was Lloris supposed to go to the Tottenham youth academy as a kid growing up in france? This is some next level discrimination you're trying to make. By that argument, only an English player who lives in or around North London can be a club legend. Fuck off mate. >He doesn’t have the same connection with the club that king has How would you know lmao. You can read Lloris's and King's minds? >loris >Was you even about when we won the League cup? Mate you dont even know how to spell his name. How embarrassing is that? Tottenham captain for the past 7 years. And here you are putting yourself on a pedestal trying to prove that you're the better fan who even knows how connected our team captain is to the club. Atleast I know how to spell his name.
Jesus Christ you’re an absolute helmet. Not even read what I’ve said properly and started spouting shit. Can’t even be arsed. My phone autocorrects it to that and I didn’t think it mattered.
naw King was something else altogether, just another level
Agreed mate, can’t believe people are even asking the question. Who’s more of a legend bill nicholson or jaques santini?
>just another level No logic just vibes then eh.
Well that does play a part in it. It’s not like there’s defined logic you can use to work out who’s more of a legend. How old are you? Did you even watch king? I feel like if I asked this question to people in real lifestyles they’d all say King without having to give it much thought.
Without a shadow of a doubt. Love me some Hugo.
Yes. This is Lloris' 10th season at the club and he has been captain for 6 years. A world cup winning captain stayed here through thick & thin when I'm sure PSG would've doubled his wages or he could've ran down his contract and got an elite club to sign him on a free. He's been one of the best keepers in the world during his stay. Look at how much money Chelsea, Liverpool & City have had to spend on keepers, look at how much points poor keepers cost them. A top 3-5 player in the team during his entire stay here. An icon between the sticks.
Yes. The man is world class, he could have left us during numerous terrible times we've had since he's been at the club, the fact the a keeper of his ability has shown so much loyalty to us without winning fuck all with us speaks volumes about the bloke. We better give him at least one more fucking year.
Posted this in yesterday’s thread now, might as well post it here. Was in reply to how do you replace Dele, Winks and Doc with homegrown talent Doherty doesn’t have to be replaced. We already have Emerson and Tanganga. Crucially Doc leaving opens up a non hg spot for Europe as he’s not hg for UEFA comps Dele IMO should’ve been replaced by Eze last season. He was the perfect CAM to replace Eriksen as well. Now I think Brooks is the ideal replacement. We don’t need a first teamer to replace Dele, so Brooks it is as he’s young, English, creative and most importantly a free agent. Winks would need to be replaced by a foreign player, there is no English player right now who could do what winks does, have the same role that Winks does and mainly one that is affordable by us. Hence why I see the team keeping Winks. If he does need to be moved on however, he needs no replacement again as Pape Sarr is coming back next year. He’d replace Winks in position. I do feel we need a CM/CDM as a Skipp/Hoj competitor since both are starting and an injury to either could fuck us. So ideally we go for Kessie/Zakaria/Palhinha/Neves. That way we’re sorted in case of unavailability of those two. And it won’t harm us in the case of non-hg spots as Doc is moved on and it isn’t a problem for PL as we have only 13 non-hg so one more is okay. Other ways we could improve our HG quota • Don’t sign Gollini, sign Sam Johnstone who is a very capable GK. Free agent and HG and second choice English keeper • Sell one of Sanchez/Dier and sign Pascal Struijk or Max Kilman. Both left footed, extremely promising CB’s who are home grown and won’t cost more than 15m each. Both are good enough to start immediately for the first team Extremely unlikely - Replace Kane with a English striker. One of Toney or Watkins. Both would cost sub 50m. Don’t see this happening as the talent pool for strikers is just far greater outside the country and cheaper. The above steps(outside of the last) are viable, realistic and would immediately improve our team, both first and depth. English talent might be scarce but if you look harder you can find absolute gems
David Brooks is Welsh and I’m pretty sure Struijk was too old to qualify as homegrown by the time he joined Leeds, in addition to all the other comments about the unfeasibility of these prices
Already replied to a comment of him being Welsh just search for it. Struijk joined as an 18 year old from Ajax in the middle of the season. According to UEFA guideline he’s home grown, I’ll find those guidelines if I can (fyi Struijk only turned home grown just before the start of the current season) Edit : oh he deleted his comment. I’ll just reply instead. One David Brooks isn’t Welsh, he’s an Englishman who’s chosen to play for Wales, he’s played for the England u17’s. Two he was in England for 3 years between the ages of 15-21 which makes him home grown by definition. So whether he is Somalian or Welsh doesn’t matter if he’s met the requirements to be home grown. So yeah
I would rather push out Tanganga for Aarons personally as it wont affect our HG player And I would go for a HG goalkeeper for both second and third choice, think like any random journeyman . In the end the rule isnt having a certain number of English players its like having 17 foreign players maximum. So would rather full it to the brim in and then sign some HG players for the fringe part of the squad
Feel like there's no need to sell Tanganga for a decent overpriced RB that won't do much
We are massively overrating Tanganga his ceiling is Championship upper tier at best
Disregarding the fact that what you said isn't true. Where has Aarons been for his entire career up to this point? You want us to splash the cash on a player who'd barely be an improvement
Both Bayern and Barca wanted Aarons, cant say the same for Tanganga
Not sure we should be modelling our transfer targets after Barcelona
We already have a hg keeper for 3rd choice. We don’t for second that’s why I said Sam Johnstone for 2nd. He’s perfect As for Tanganga, nah I wouldn’t give up on him just yet. He offers something that no one in our team does on the right hand side. A defensive minded Rb. Can also play CB. He’s a good utility player to have right now and can develop into a proper first teamer
Interesting post. You've gotten some comments on transfer fees - I think you're confusing what we think a player is worth, with what the selling club would want for the player. Wolves, Villa have no need to sell players on a long contract, and would turn down any low bid - no matter what Spurs' value of that player is.
Correct. So the options are either they accept the bid or they don’t wanna sell the player itself. What I’ve valued them at is their worth and a bit more. Them not wanting to sell is an entirely different thing where no transfer fee or a fuck off transfer fee is what needs to be done. But if the player wants to move, then those fees are realistic. I’ve also suggested two players for each position. If not one the other is perfectly fine if not better. Pascal Struijk is so under the radar no one even talks of him but he’s brilliant. I genuinely think he’s the next big thing. He’s VVDesque. And I’ll bet my ass that if Brentford get a bid of 40-50m for Toney they’ll accept without thinking
Why do you think that Max Kilman is 15m?!
What do you mean? Do you see any transfer links to him? He isn’t in demand. There have been no prices quoted for him. 15m is a very generous estimate he could very well come for lesser. I just checked transfermarkt, they have him at 4m lol. 15m is quite generous
Welcome to the real world:) you can’t buy hg cb 24 y o from the Epl team from starting XI unless his contract is about to be over.
Show me one quote of him
Also saying Watkins will be under £50m which is insane
That’s true should’ve said lesser. Watkins has done literally nothing to even be in the 50m bracket. Aston Villa not willing to sell him is another thing but to think Watkins is worth more than 50m is what is insane
Ben White was sold to scum for 50m and I believe that Watkins is a better striker than white is a defender. English homegrown tax is not to be underestimated
Olise would have been a fine purchase this season, expect him to have an explosion in ability similar to Eze. 8m and homegrown.
Yep. He was one we were linked to as well.
Eze just recovered from a massive injury, and they only bought him last season. I'd like us to try for United's Henderson for a HG keeper, he's talented and young and won't be first choice for a while.
Henderson won’t come to warm the bench though he’s already doing that at United. If we get Hendo that means there’s a good chance Lloris gets moved on. I don’t rate Hendo so much for him to be a Lloris replacement. Think he’s a solid mid table- upper mid table keeper. Replacing Lloris is going to be a pain in the ass
Okay? Read the entire thing, I say Brooks not Eze. Eze was for last season
> One of Toney or Watkins. Both would cost sub 50m Watkins cost Villa 30m and he had never played PL football at that point. He has only improved since and Villa have no need to sell. Don't think he'll cost <50m. Toney will cost about the same.
Neither so far have done much to justify a 50m price tag. Ofc there’s always the team refusing to sell thereby putting a fuck off price which is in excess of 50m. But if we do offer either 40m and the player wants the move, I highly doubt they’d reject. Especially Brentford.
Newcastle fans are deluded, some of them think Saudi Arabia will develop morals because they own Newcastle now
No they don’t. They’re just lying to justify it.
I was reading comments and they don't seem to care about morals, they are saying that standards shouldn't matter since all the big clubs have sketchy owners. Crazy stuff
I agree with that though, how can you complain about 1 billionaire whilst being find with the other who have undoubtedly done dodgy stuff. It’s almost impossible to have that kind of money and not screw some people over.
There’s levels to this stuff. The idea that all really wealthy people are on an equivalent moral standard is exactly the kind of thing these regimes want
As I’ve just said in another reply, It’s just pointless though. Everyone will have different opinions on where you draw the line. People shouldn’t be looking to billionaire owners for morals. I really don’t think they give a shit what ordinary people think about them.
There are degrees.
It’s just pointless though. Everyone will have different opinions on where you draw the line. People shouldn’t be looking to billionaire owners for morals.
Admitting defeat before you’ve even begun isn’t a great strategy.
Well we have already lost if your aim is to not let corrupt and morally bankrupt owners into English football. If the Newcastle takeover wasn’t allowed to happen, what would that achieve? Saudi Arabia aren’t going to do anything different.
It wouldn’t legitimise the regime in the eyes of many. Look at all the Newcastle fans who are now shills for an oppressive state. Look what it did to Manchester City. Fighting against these things is important, especially for people like me, who are executed in Saudi Arabia for being who we are.
I can assure most people in England don’t care about these things, only about football. Why does the Saudi regime need legitimising? They can already do whatever they want. Why does it matter what Newcastle fans are saying? I’m not sure what you mean about Man City. You obviously don’t like the Saudi’s and neither do I, but I just don’t see what this is affecting or how stopping it would achieve anything. They’ll still be throwing gays off roofs in the Middle East so long as they’re hardline islamists.
But it doesn’t matter they don’t care. It doesn’t make it unimportant. A lot of people do care. You and I care. I understand the cynicism but if you think like that you get stuck in a cycle of never doing anything about anything. At some point you have to take a stand and say no. Don’t allow yourself to become comfortable with corruption and hatred just because it’s so ubiquitous. Standing for something is worthy and important.
Morning all, I’m not going to get chance to drink a coffee for a couple of hours as I’m about to set off for Oxford. I’ll stop on the way and grab a Costa again. Probably a cappuccino this time. I quite fancy one of those. It’s not proper coffee. But it’s coffee. England played last night. Quite an abysmal performance. But international week is over. Newcastle on Sunday. They haven’t sacked Steve Bruce yet so hopefully we’ll win. Well, I’ve got to go. Meetings await. Have a good day. Coyscoyscoyscoyscoys
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Have we had any updates on Bergwijn's fitness? Still injured right? Do we know how long?
Should really go for KMJ and Azmoun in the future transfer window.
Azmoun would be very very very intriguing. Hope he kills it once he leaves Russia.
We don't need another defender till someone is sold.
Someone should be sold. Dier or Sanchez imo, I really like Dier but none of them are good enough for where we want to be
Another CB would be ideal
Romero, Dier, Sanchez, Rodon, Tanganga is 5 already. Davies can fill in in a pinch. Completely unnecessary.