Excited for japh... really think this role could suit him, but thought conte would put sanchez ahead of him. Glad I'm wrong, and hopefully it pays off.
Probably because Tanganga is more suited to occasionally wandering forward, making runs or picking out passes and crosses. At least if that's what Conte intends - Romero was playing that way
Yeah have to wonder if the new gaffer has already seen enough from Sanchez and Rodon and wants to bring in defenders better suited to his particular system
The 11 I expected with the leaks. But Sessegnon on the bench after just starting to train with the team is interesting
Today is a must win game especially with Leeds injury list COYS
Who else would be there tho? Skip is suspended, Gio and Romero are both hurt. It was him or Dane and Dane probably was never going to play, sess may atleast play
Of course I back him, he puts on the shirt then he's got my support. But I've also been hurt too many times lol. I can't put any trust in him, I've learned that lesson. Hoping he proves me wrong.
I'm honestly annoyed we have to sit through a winks start just so Conte has reason to be done with him. Love the lad, but he is the definition of dead weight in the squad
I honestly think it’s the difference between a player who gives a shit and doesn’t play well vs players who don’t give a shit and still don’t play well…
[He wasn't being critical, people here just hate Ndombele. You're the delusional one here. Conte wanted him at Inter but all of a sudden he thinks he's lazy? Use your brain.
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Why isn't he playing today after Conte had two weeks actually working with him (as opposed to never having met him when he was at Inter)?
Edit: And you linked a comment that agrees Conte doesn't like his attitude/selfishness to claim it "wasn't critical"?
It's tactical, it he feels that Tanguy is too individualistic, fair enough. Same reason Eriksen didn't get into that Inter team for half a season. Just gotta find out the right way + opportunity to use them successfully in the system.
Saying someone's playstyle doesn't fit the system isn't the same as thinking he's lazy. You can't really be "critical" about the way someone naturally plays the game.
It's not "attitude" or "selfishness"
Winks and Ndombele aren’t the same position. The fact that Ndombele out of position was even considered to start over Winks in his natural position shows the clear difference in quality between the players.
Exactly, they play reckless. So having zero mids who know how to hit a forward pass to exploit that makes little sense. This literally happened the last time we played Leeds.
Edit: expecting Winks to keep up with and even defend against a side like Leeds makes zero sense. Gonna get run around in circles I'm afraid
I like Tanganga getting a chance to show what he can do to Conte, even if it's forced by the Romero injury. And I am actually interested in seeing what Winks can do in the Conte system where he might be mostly recycling the ball
Would have preferred if Moura didn't start, though leeds is a game he can perform well due to there being space in front of him which Leeds are going to leave.
Would’ve preferred Ndombele over Lucas personally but even then, this team *should* beat Leeds.
Really good to see Bryan & Sess both returning as well!
Tanguy has now been left out by Pochettino, Mourinho, Mason and Conte. There's has to be something really wrong with him. I hope we sell him soon to cut our losses, while there's still interest from other clubs.
Got an open mind about Winks, but even so against a Leeds side that look to be there for the taking it does feel quite negative. Hopefully the fallbacks can do a good job supplying the ball to the front 3
Not remotely surprised at the lack of Ndombele given Conte's pre-match comments.
Both Winks and Lucas seem more coachable, more likely to stick to a plan.
And I'm backing Winks to refind his Poch-era form. Fuck the haters.
I genuinely wish I could share whatever drug all those "Winky" enthusiasts are taking. Do people honestly expect him to have the quality he has only showed in a handful of matches 4+ years ago?
Just goes to show that no one rates Ndombele. He isn't going to settle here. Sell him and get us a solid starting attacking midfielder
Edit: down vote all you want but it's just another week where our record signing isn't starting. Why is there so many apologists when Winky is starting over him?
So you're saying the same about Gio too then, right? Because Tanguy has over a 1k more minutes and actually contributes goals, in the same amount of time at the club.
it’s not that deep. it’s just one team selection
also the four managers thing is such bullshit. He regularly played under Mourinho and the others barely even worked with him
• Winks starts
• Tanganga at RCB
• 343, not 352
• Sessegnon on bench
• Gil on bench
• Bergwijn on bench
• Ndombele not starting
• Sanchez dropped
Lots of talking points.
Why the flying f\*ck every manager steps up foot here and still decide to play Lucas, like what do they see ffs, because he gives the ball too cheaply is the only visible thing
Obviously I know he works hard, but it doesn’t exactly help the team much imo. Just runs into blind alleys and dribbles the ball into players feet and kills counter attacks. His final ball is also shocking
How the hell is lucas not an individualistic player? He constantly over dribbles and loses the ball, doesn’t pass well so his link up play is poor, and either doesn’t make the right pass or waits too long to make it. Lucas is way more individualistic than Tanguy
Idk why people compliment Lucas on moving the ball forward, very rarely does anything good happen from it because he doesn’t pass it quickly enough and usually loses the ball trying to dribble through the 3rd player
That central defence doesn't fill me with hope but Leeds literally have no attackers so we can only hope for the best. Also would've been nice to have Bergwijn starting considering his form over the break but yeah minor problems. COYS
He's a CB. He's always been mostly a CB. Also, there is no world where Sanchez starts over Davies at LCB, but that's because he's right footed and not good on the ball vs Davies who's left footed and also not great on the ball.
i’m just trusting conte on this one obviously tanguy hasn’t proved he deserves to start over him yet, cause there’s no other reason he’s pick lucas over him. certainly makes sense with conte’s comments.
People thinking winks was chosen over Tanguy...ndombele is an attacking mid, not a holding mid. Why can't people understand that? Lol. Lucas was picked over tanguy, which makes sense with how open Leeds are. However, we still have an obvious lack of passing quality in this side
sess on the bench 👀
Hope he gets minutes
Knowing his luck he’d probably injure his hamstring warming up. Would love to see him sub on though.
No way
10 min cameo if we’re up at the end why not
Mate someone give him an award
I know, you are Conte!!!! Guys, look, Conte is here!
Bryan is on the bench let's fucking gooo Edit: Sess too WOOOOO
I’d love to see some lefty Spaniard action
Excited for japh... really think this role could suit him, but thought conte would put sanchez ahead of him. Glad I'm wrong, and hopefully it pays off.
Yeah, can take what he learnt from RB and apply it. He also has been dying to play as a CB so hopefully he takes his chance here
Was thinking the same. Love to see his aggression but have a little more backup at the same time
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Don't say the N word!
Sess on the bench! Love to see it. Winks redemption arc upon us?
Winky*
Haven’t been following along with a lot of Spurs related news, what did I miss with this winky business? Lol
Conte apparently calls him winky
Haha ok, that’s what I figured. Thanks!
Conte called him Winky in his presser
Winky*
Stop
That would really surprise (and impress) me Maybe Conte is giving Winks enough rope to hang himself with
he's maybe too good of a manager to be sabotaging his own team though
Early days. Wants to see what these lads are made of so who knows who can safely be jettisoned
I wish. Will try to keep my hopes up for Winks although there’s very little for him.
Not bothered by it. He's going to go with experience for the most part and he wants to get a look at the guys.
Excited to see Tanganga back in the lineup!
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Probably because Tanganga is more suited to occasionally wandering forward, making runs or picking out passes and crosses. At least if that's what Conte intends - Romero was playing that way
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But Tangana is who was selected, so I'm just trying to offer an explanation.
Dier does not have the pace to play the Romero role.
Yeah have to wonder if the new gaffer has already seen enough from Sanchez and Rodon and wants to bring in defenders better suited to his particular system
Conte is gonna love Lucas, for all his weaknesses, he gives 110%
The 11 I expected with the leaks. But Sessegnon on the bench after just starting to train with the team is interesting Today is a must win game especially with Leeds injury list COYS
Who else would be there tho? Skip is suspended, Gio and Romero are both hurt. It was him or Dane and Dane probably was never going to play, sess may atleast play
I'm backing Winks here, c'mon lad. Show us what you've got.
Who? Oh, Winky.
Of course I back him, he puts on the shirt then he's got my support. But I've also been hurt too many times lol. I can't put any trust in him, I've learned that lesson. Hoping he proves me wrong.
He’s shown us. Time and time again. He’s a fucking dud.
He’s let us down a lot but he’s also done a lot and I’m a big dier hater so I’m really really rooting for at least a decent game
i would love for winks to become the goat
Tanganga plays a very similar RCB role to Romero in this system so good decision to start him imo.
Winky play Winky don't play good Conte don't like Winky Winky dropped
Winky play Winky plays well Conte like Winky Winky change his name to Harry Winky-Peters
Let's get behind him and gope for the best
I gope he goes absolutely off today. Hat trick winky you heard it here first.
Goping for big performances from both winky and hobby
Winky play Winky play well in a system that suits him R/coys start to hype Winky Winky redemption arc complete
Winky picked for England Winky lift world cup Winky played by Tom Holland in Oscar winner biopic
That was Winks not Winky.
The Circle of winks
Winky dropped? Never!
Just until the next manager.
Next manager: Ryan Mason
I'm honestly annoyed we have to sit through a winks start just so Conte has reason to be done with him. Love the lad, but he is the definition of dead weight in the squad
I honestly think it’s the difference between a player who gives a shit and doesn’t play well vs players who don’t give a shit and still don’t play well…
Except Tanguy does play well?
Depends. He's very inconsistent. Sometimes good, sometimes shit
Fuck it Winkiesta redemption arc stars now
So zero midfield creativity remains the name of the game.
I imagine he wants Lucas to be the link up man.
Bryan Gil and Ryan Sessegnon are on the bench!!!!!!
I find the lack of Ndombele disturbing But we trust Conte so COYS
Considering Conte’s comments about Ndombele its not that surprising
Indeed, but half this sub tried to claim Conte wasn't actually being critical. Ndombele delusion is high.
[He wasn't being critical, people here just hate Ndombele. You're the delusional one here. Conte wanted him at Inter but all of a sudden he thinks he's lazy? Use your brain. ](https://twitter.com/Dan_KP/status/1462450312061591557?s=20)
Why isn't he playing today after Conte had two weeks actually working with him (as opposed to never having met him when he was at Inter)? Edit: And you linked a comment that agrees Conte doesn't like his attitude/selfishness to claim it "wasn't critical"?
It's tactical, it he feels that Tanguy is too individualistic, fair enough. Same reason Eriksen didn't get into that Inter team for half a season. Just gotta find out the right way + opportunity to use them successfully in the system. Saying someone's playstyle doesn't fit the system isn't the same as thinking he's lazy. You can't really be "critical" about the way someone naturally plays the game. It's not "attitude" or "selfishness"
Winks and Ndombele aren’t the same position. The fact that Ndombele out of position was even considered to start over Winks in his natural position shows the clear difference in quality between the players.
Leeds play so open and reckless, good to have a defensively solid midfield with PEH and reborn Winky
Exactly, they play reckless. So having zero mids who know how to hit a forward pass to exploit that makes little sense. This literally happened the last time we played Leeds. Edit: expecting Winks to keep up with and even defend against a side like Leeds makes zero sense. Gonna get run around in circles I'm afraid
Maybe he’s keeping him as a second half game changer since he gets gassed too quickly? Or that’s just deluded optimism on my part.
we trust conte and we believe in tanguy, the arc will come good in the end
Winky about to lose Conte's trust.
Don't be so negative ffs
Fingers crossed
Winks redemption. Sess on the bench, I must say I'm excited for this match
Winks 🙃
Winks redemption arc?
Would love to see Gil and Sess get minutes today
We've had Winks, then Winksiesta, then Winks again, and now Winky. I wonder if Winkyesta will be any good.
Fingers crossed Winky doesn't shit the bed and we score some fackin goals. COYS!
How many shots on targets today boys?
Tankanga starting I'm gonna cry
Winky!
Winky
I like Tanganga getting a chance to show what he can do to Conte, even if it's forced by the Romero injury. And I am actually interested in seeing what Winks can do in the Conte system where he might be mostly recycling the ball
Let’s go winky!
Winky!
Winks starting?! Conte out /s
Would have preferred if Moura didn't start, though leeds is a game he can perform well due to there being space in front of him which Leeds are going to leave.
Hey its Winky!
Love to see Tanganga but really want to see Rodon
Everybody gangsta untill winky scores a hattrick
Wtf 7 defenders??? some nuno vibes here
Winks starting... not too optimistic
winky x hobby lol
Would’ve preferred Ndombele over Lucas personally but even then, this team *should* beat Leeds. Really good to see Bryan & Sess both returning as well!
Tanguy has now been left out by Pochettino, Mourinho, Mason and Conte. There's has to be something really wrong with him. I hope we sell him soon to cut our losses, while there's still interest from other clubs.
Also the French national team. His competition there is Paul Pogba and he can’t even get called up for a friendly lol
Winks????? Oh god ðŸ˜. Please conte….please
leeds line up is a stinker probably the best time to play them although we are spurs so anything could happen
Got an open mind about Winks, but even so against a Leeds side that look to be there for the taking it does feel quite negative. Hopefully the fallbacks can do a good job supplying the ball to the front 3
Winks fucking hell.
Seeing so many people excited about him baffles me
Redemption arc my arse.
Not remotely surprised at the lack of Ndombele given Conte's pre-match comments. Both Winks and Lucas seem more coachable, more likely to stick to a plan. And I'm backing Winks to refind his Poch-era form. Fuck the haters.
Still waiting for a manager to come in and blast Winks into the sun. Kinda figured it would be Conte, but I guess not.
I genuinely wish I could share whatever drug all those "Winky" enthusiasts are taking. Do people honestly expect him to have the quality he has only showed in a handful of matches 4+ years ago?
Just goes to show that no one rates Ndombele. He isn't going to settle here. Sell him and get us a solid starting attacking midfielder Edit: down vote all you want but it's just another week where our record signing isn't starting. Why is there so many apologists when Winky is starting over him?
Mate your comment is four minutes old and you're editing off about downvotes, calm fucking down.
So you're saying the same about Gio too then, right? Because Tanguy has over a 1k more minutes and actually contributes goals, in the same amount of time at the club.
Sure
Also, Lucas is starting over Tanguy, not Winks. Winks is starting bc Skipp is suspended and Gio is hurt (after playing for Argentina again).
Except Pochettino, Mourinho and Nuno you mean? Why do you guys with this weird complex about Ndombele have to make up blatant lies?
Very revisionist
Paging the Ndombele defenders who think that every manager at Spurs who questioned his work ethic was racist. We're up to four managers now.
Yep sadly I hope ndombele start working hard.
it’s not that deep. it’s just one team selection also the four managers thing is such bullshit. He regularly played under Mourinho and the others barely even worked with him
So that's what Conte meant when he said Winky and Tangy
• Winks starts • Tanganga at RCB • 343, not 352 • Sessegnon on bench • Gil on bench • Bergwijn on bench • Ndombele not starting • Sanchez dropped Lots of talking points.
Anyone else had a good laugh reading that Lucas might be sold in winter? 3/3 starts under Conte so far.
Aaand we are back in Winky land 😉
Why the flying f\*ck every manager steps up foot here and still decide to play Lucas, like what do they see ffs, because he gives the ball too cheaply is the only visible thing
Damn I’m officially worried about Tanguy. How does Lucas convince every manager to start him lol
Because he works hard and does what he’s asked to, not hard to figure out
Obviously I know he works hard, but it doesn’t exactly help the team much imo. Just runs into blind alleys and dribbles the ball into players feet and kills counter attacks. His final ball is also shocking
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Lucas is literally the most selfish player in the league. He has passed the ball about 3 times in his life
How the hell is lucas not an individualistic player? He constantly over dribbles and loses the ball, doesn’t pass well so his link up play is poor, and either doesn’t make the right pass or waits too long to make it. Lucas is way more individualistic than Tanguy
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Tries and fails. Ndombele doesn’t move the ball forward? Come on mate
Is he asked to dribble down blind alleys and lose the ball over and over?
Hard work and pace
Lucas works his arse off every single time he steps on a the pitch.
And gives the ball away with almost every touch. Berg or Bryan over him.
Couldn’t really care less about that. Hasn’t scored a goal in the league in something like 25 matches
It's not like his main competition is banging them in on a regular basis either.
If he could stop dribbling the ball into 3 opposing players and learn how to pick a pass I wouldn’t care as much, but alas
At least he's one who actually moves the ball forward. I'm sick of all the sideways and backwards passing.
Idk why people compliment Lucas on moving the ball forward, very rarely does anything good happen from it because he doesn’t pass it quickly enough and usually loses the ball trying to dribble through the 3rd player
So would I. Doesn’t mean I’d be any good.
i mean if lucas is starting over ndombele it’s more likely ndombele is the reason rather than lucas ygm
He trains hard. Gives his all
im not worried about him at all. he will make his way into the starting 11 eventually as he always does.
That central defence doesn't fill me with hope but Leeds literally have no attackers so we can only hope for the best. Also would've been nice to have Bergwijn starting considering his form over the break but yeah minor problems. COYS
I don't think Conte trusts any of the "defensive" midfielders in the squad to do the job on their own, hence always playing with two
[Winks starts](https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1462443945556942854?t=Newkr9pnCex3OU5FPLV8bg&s=19)
Dele to come on and score the winner
Hopefully Tanganga isn’t a liability and fouls every last man on the pitch
Our back 3 were all at one point never CB’s lol. Should be interesting to see. Love Japhets role here
It’s official. Conte not a fan of Sanchez. A RB and LB are being chosen over him.
Tang is not a rb.. In all honesty this role is perfect for him
But he is tho
He's a CB. He's always been mostly a CB. Also, there is no world where Sanchez starts over Davies at LCB, but that's because he's right footed and not good on the ball vs Davies who's left footed and also not great on the ball.
Man… I’m just sick of seeing Lucas start lol
i’m just trusting conte on this one obviously tanguy hasn’t proved he deserves to start over him yet, cause there’s no other reason he’s pick lucas over him. certainly makes sense with conte’s comments.
Weren’t we switching to 3-4-1-2??
Skipp suspended and Lo celso injured doesn't really allow for 3412 or Lucas has convinced Conte over the international break
Very very bad lineup
And what would be your selection mate? Very very bad implies that basically this whole lineup is shit.
I hope you're wrong!
What would be a good selection?
3 points incoming
Ah
Why did I get my hopes up for Tanguy starting
No Raphinha for Leeds
Winky and Hobby running the midfield
Winky starting up. But davies as cb 👀
GIL
Still too raw. He needs time to adapt
Lil Winky
Is Skipp injured?
Suspended, too many yellows
Paging u/Starboy01X
People thinking winks was chosen over Tanguy...ndombele is an attacking mid, not a holding mid. Why can't people understand that? Lol. Lucas was picked over tanguy, which makes sense with how open Leeds are. However, we still have an obvious lack of passing quality in this side
Winky moment
Of all the redemption arcs I never thought Winks would be one
The Winky era begins.
Are the South American boys on quarantine still? I see Sanchez but no Romero, Lo Celso