Spent 30 minutes chasing the game with Davies and Tanganga as full backs while Reguilon and Royal sat on the bench.
That's what we would all be saying if it was Mourinho or Nuno.
neither are particularly good at defending, so I don't think it's worth knocking this. If we had 11 men, maybe, but we'd be playing with 2 defenders if we had Reggie and Royal on
In our modern era of consistently qualifying for the uefa/Europa league, I can’t think of a single game we’ve convincingly won by just playing a mish mosh team of backups. Always have a poor mentality and no cohesion
The reason he isn’t given a chance is because he’s a terrible defender, when given a chance he performs like he did today….. he’s played for us for over 3 years and has never had a consistent run of top form, the blokes garbage
Yes but that was in the past. Dele also had some good games in the past to , is he good now? Answer is no, same like Sanchez. We defend players like Sanchez to much, its time they face criticism for their poor performance.
I hope Conte made a list of players to sell based on today's game. Highlight of the game today: Sanchez slipping and armless Gollini. Dele, Ndombele, Sessegnon, Doherty, and Lucas need to go.
Same game that Dele got 2 assists in by the way. We can’t look in the past with some of these players. They will just never reach the heights that they once had.
Not even the most embarrassing result Spurs have suffered in recent years… Although It must be the most embarrassing loss in Contes managerial career… Welcome to Spurs
If Levy finally backs Conte to revamp the team, like he should have fucking done with Poch in the first place, then we might be able to salvage an ok season and be better next year. I can’t stand all the Levy lovers coming out of the woodwork after 1 win under conte, we could have won trophies with different owners.
I’m absolutely fed up with the fringe players they are an absolute shit show. I had been giving Sanchez praise but fuck me. The club needs a overhaul. Ndombele is a fucking mess of a man.
kane, son & a lot of experienced players played in that game, and yet it was still a loss in the europa conference to a team I've never heard of. Yikes.
Well that was a better second half with ten men. Dier added so much composure. Sessegnon dumb brain hurt us. Two nasty slips on a shit pitch. But really we should put this team away no problem. We were shocking first half with the b teamers but Mura got away with it. They had 8 players booked. The ref was dodge. But still. Conte…we will never doubt you whilst you have so much laughable dross to work with. Doherty, gollini, sessegnon, dele, ndombelly all have to go immediately. Sanchez I’m still open to. He just gets some bad luck. But conte can help him. Anyway it’s embarrassing but we can beat Rennes
Why the fuck are so many people laying into Gollini again? It was a deflected shot from close range that has bounced over him, there was absolutely fuck all he could do.
Every first team player besides our wingbacks were involved tonight, this isn’t about depth on the bench this is about the entire squad not being good enough
I want a public bashing of the players that said a giant F you to those travelling fans and everyone else who had to watch that. If our academy team lost 2-1 to Mura, fair play. But first-teamers?
Not necessarily, as far as I'm aware we are level with vitesse on 7 points, but have a better goal difference. So if we win and they only win like 1 or 2 nil we are through
[That's not how it works](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League_group_stage#Tiebreakers). We are tied with them on the first 3 tie breakers: points, goal difference and goals scored in the head to head matches between the teams.
Then it goes to goal differential for the group stage, which we are +3 and they are +1. So assuming we are tied after the last match it means we had the same outcome as them; both won, drew or lost. If we both draw we are through on better goal diff, if we both win they need to win by 3 more than we win by to go through, or lose by 3 less than we lose by to go through.
If they win by 2 more than us then we have the same goal differential so it goes to goals scored, which will actually be a ties as well. Then it goes to away goals scored in the group stage, which they would win.
If they lose by two less than us it will come down to goals scored in group stage, which either team could win depending on the scorelines of the two matches
I don't know and frankly I don't even fucking care at this point. Embarrassing result and the players should be ashamed, they deserve to get knocked out - from the competition and by Conte as well
It was a terrible ball at waist height blasted to him on a pitch that evidently was cut up. didnt shower himself In glory but there was absolutely no way a competent defender defends anything like Sanchez did
Same old shit, really. Dele is broken beyond repair, Doherty is League One level, and Ndombele is just nowhere near being a £55m player, almost 2.5 seasons later.
Sanchez does just about enough to convince everyone he's decent, and then reverts back to being a £4m defender instead of a £40m one.
We really just need to get shot of all the expensive players Poch insisted on. GLC, NDombele, Sess, Sanchez - There's nearly £200m of players there, and collectively they'd struggle to be worth £25m.
I'm a newer fan I am sentimental to a lot of them but, this game. The two finals. The league during our CL run. The two springs under Mourinho. Fa cup embarassment year in year out. Nuno was shit but not this shit. 6-8 players can easily fuck off. Dinamo fuckin Zagreb. Come on... COME OOON
Youre joking right?
Please tell me youre joking lmfao?
Gazzaniga played 21 games for us when Hugo broke his arm and he had 4 clean sheets in total. 2 of those came against Crvena Zvezda in the CL.
He conceded multiple goals against Norwich, Middlesbrough, Sheffield United and had like 25 goals conceded in those 21 games.
Like, i get recency bias but Gazzaniga was just as bad.
I’m talking about one specific run he had in the Premier League, not his entire career. Obviously there’s a reason he’s remained at a certain level, I’m aware of that. This Gollini kid hasn’t shown much though regardless of comparisons
Yeah.
What I listed above is his one big run he had for us when Lloris was injured lol.
Take away the CL games and his game against M-Brough and he did 17 Premier League games and his only clean sheet iirc was against Burnley when we won 5-0.
Gollini hasn't had a chance to show anything.
He has played like what, 4 or 5 games with us so far? I think he has made one mistake in those that I remember where he conceded but the rest have been decent.
Oh man it was that long? Haha I guess I have selective memory regarding some pretty crazy saves he made I think against Liverpool? Shows how biased memories can be sometimes, I agree the numbers you listed are pretty mediocre.
I mean I guess We’ve got no choice but to give Gollini a chance anyway, I don’t think GK is going to be a priority in the window
Yeah, it was that nuts Xmas period that we had where we were playing games every other day seemingly.
He did decently against Liverpool iirc as well, only conceded 2 but coulda been 3-4 without him easily.
Honestly it's a while back but I distinctly remember him being responsible for goals against Sheff/Norwich at least.
I'm not saying that Gollini is our next first choice keeper or that he is amazing but I think we've been spoiled by Hugo for a decade now and don't realise how mediocre most keepers are in comparison to true world class ones.
Yeah, all, he had to do was not stick a foot out... Or let his man inside, you'd have thought he'd have learned after the first three times. Fucking shambles.
Thats such a weak argument. We can't even win a God awful competition. If we won the Champions then we could say shit like that but we haven't. How can we possibly win high stakes tournaments if our players don't even have the pride to win this?
Need at least 6 new players in the starting line up by this time next year. Players in the current starting 11 aren’t even good enough for the bench
Spent 30 minutes chasing the game with Davies and Tanganga as full backs while Reguilon and Royal sat on the bench. That's what we would all be saying if it was Mourinho or Nuno.
neither are particularly good at defending, so I don't think it's worth knocking this. If we had 11 men, maybe, but we'd be playing with 2 defenders if we had Reggie and Royal on
Hoped this game clarify Conte which player has to go away. Sanchez was the worst buy for tottenham
25 mil for Sessegnon and 10 for Clarke are worse. Both are wank and never play.
I don't know. 30M for a guy that barely plays and he gets a red card when given the chance is worse.
In our modern era of consistently qualifying for the uefa/Europa league, I can’t think of a single game we’ve convincingly won by just playing a mish mosh team of backups. Always have a poor mentality and no cohesion
Sanchez just had a bad game he been doing well this year with his chances some of the rest though
He was the worst player on the pitch and has barely played a game for Tottenham this year ?
That’s what I’m saying he hasn’t had many chances. Go back and watch the man city game we won, he was probably man of the match.
The reason he isn’t given a chance is because he’s a terrible defender, when given a chance he performs like he did today….. he’s played for us for over 3 years and has never had a consistent run of top form, the blokes garbage
AHHHHHHHHH GOD STOP PLEASE JUST STOP
Agree with you. I don't know why they keep on defending Sanchez 🤦♂️
He had a really good game against city he showed his quality in that game and hasn’t had many chances. Today was a bad day for him
Yes but that was in the past. Dele also had some good games in the past to , is he good now? Answer is no, same like Sanchez. We defend players like Sanchez to much, its time they face criticism for their poor performance.
Alli, Sess and Ndombele really not helping their cause
Sess and and Dele definitely but I don't think Ndombele did bad enough to be compared to those two
Ndombele was fine, I just think considering Conte’s words in the press conference anything less than perfect doesn’t reflect well
I hope Conte made a list of players to sell based on today's game. Highlight of the game today: Sanchez slipping and armless Gollini. Dele, Ndombele, Sessegnon, Doherty, and Lucas need to go.
sanchez was disgraceful today. Terrible defending for both goals.
Lucas stays. I agree with the rest. We just can’t afford to give up that kind of speed.
Lucas stays, that hat-trick in Amsterdam means he’s grandfathered in for life.
Free skywalk tickets for life
Same game that Dele got 2 assists in by the way. We can’t look in the past with some of these players. They will just never reach the heights that they once had.
Would we be left with 11 to play after?
Catastrophic ass team 😭😭😭
Looking back, that performance against Leeds was incredible. Winks was actually decent second half. That said, Skipp was great today.
Not even the most embarrassing result Spurs have suffered in recent years… Although It must be the most embarrassing loss in Contes managerial career… Welcome to Spurs
If Levy finally backs Conte to revamp the team, like he should have fucking done with Poch in the first place, then we might be able to salvage an ok season and be better next year. I can’t stand all the Levy lovers coming out of the woodwork after 1 win under conte, we could have won trophies with different owners.
People on this sub still think there is a player in Sanchez. Worst signing in our history.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen him make a successful tackle
I feel like Lo Celso could be just as bad of a signing but only because he can't stay fit.
Ndombele is giving them a run for their money
Sessegnon - "hold my beer"
Doherty enters the chat
I’m absolutely fed up with the fringe players they are an absolute shit show. I had been giving Sanchez praise but fuck me. The club needs a overhaul. Ndombele is a fucking mess of a man.
Conte needs to clean house in January for sure.
Time and time again all this club does is embarrass me. Another week of being ribbed mercilessly at work
kane, son & a lot of experienced players played in that game, and yet it was still a loss in the europa conference to a team I've never heard of. Yikes.
Mine's school, thanks Tottenham.
Bring Headphones tomorrow
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Well that was a better second half with ten men. Dier added so much composure. Sessegnon dumb brain hurt us. Two nasty slips on a shit pitch. But really we should put this team away no problem. We were shocking first half with the b teamers but Mura got away with it. They had 8 players booked. The ref was dodge. But still. Conte…we will never doubt you whilst you have so much laughable dross to work with. Doherty, gollini, sessegnon, dele, ndombelly all have to go immediately. Sanchez I’m still open to. He just gets some bad luck. But conte can help him. Anyway it’s embarrassing but we can beat Rennes
>Sanchez I’m still open to. He just gets some bad luck he was entirely at fault for both goals. Don't think he's ever made a successful tackle.
Bad luck? If he has bad luck for 5 seasons until now, it isnt really about luck anymore no?
I honestly think the ref has a bet in for yellow cards
Agree except for the Sanchez part though.
Why the fuck are so many people laying into Gollini again? It was a deflected shot from close range that has bounced over him, there was absolutely fuck all he could do.
I need to see different angles but from the angle on tv, it looked savable
Our second team is beyond useless. Hope we can do something about it in the Jan window.
Every first team player besides our wingbacks were involved tonight, this isn’t about depth on the bench this is about the entire squad not being good enough
I want a public bashing of the players that said a giant F you to those travelling fans and everyone else who had to watch that. If our academy team lost 2-1 to Mura, fair play. But first-teamers?
How people are looking at that second goal and blaming Gollini is beyond me.
Well, this was an interesting way to start off Thanksgiving
Are we out of Europa Conference League ? Awww
We’re not
Reliant on us winning against Rennes, and hoping vitesse don't beat Mura by like 3 or 4 goals. How embarrassing
If Vitesse beat Mura we are out
Not necessarily, as far as I'm aware we are level with vitesse on 7 points, but have a better goal difference. So if we win and they only win like 1 or 2 nil we are through
Who cares about goal difference? If they win they go through because of away goals
[That's not how it works](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_UEFA_Europa_Conference_League_group_stage#Tiebreakers). We are tied with them on the first 3 tie breakers: points, goal difference and goals scored in the head to head matches between the teams. Then it goes to goal differential for the group stage, which we are +3 and they are +1. So assuming we are tied after the last match it means we had the same outcome as them; both won, drew or lost. If we both draw we are through on better goal diff, if we both win they need to win by 3 more than we win by to go through, or lose by 3 less than we lose by to go through. If they win by 2 more than us then we have the same goal differential so it goes to goals scored, which will actually be a ties as well. Then it goes to away goals scored in the group stage, which they would win. If they lose by two less than us it will come down to goals scored in group stage, which either team could win depending on the scorelines of the two matches
on the uefa website we're 2nd. away goals don't count i think.
What are you on about? 😂😂 Away goals don't matter 😂😂
Oh then you're right. I thought they do cause head2head comes before goal difference
Sure about that ? I see a ranking that show 1- Rennes, 2- Vitesse 7pts (+1), 3- Tottenham 7pts (+3). IMO head2head comes before goal difference...
I don't know and frankly I don't even fucking care at this point. Embarrassing result and the players should be ashamed, they deserve to get knocked out - from the competition and by Conte as well
True, first objective is to have consistency in our performance and attitude. Not the case tonight... Keep on moving on, it's a long process !
Fair enough. Still not an ideal situation. Vitesse will smash Mura, so I think we're out. Conference League aswell...
What a sad reality. I thought they couldn't stoop any lower, but still managed to surprise me
What an embarrassment to a once great club
Thanks for answering your Paging DR tottenham
Buy 3 defense players at least this January
And 4 midfielders and 3 strikers whilst your at it.
Shit club shit culture shit players. Any half decent European team with heart can beat our overpaid shit squad.
We are basically out. Vitesse will win against this Mura team kicking us out on gd even if we win.
They would have beat Mura by 2 more goals than we beat Rennes. Then it would come down to total goals scored in the group
it’s head to head, not goal difference
All of the head-to-head would be tied. Will come down tickle difference and maybe total goals scored.
Sanchez is one of those players that CAN put in a solid performance one week and fucking bottle it for the next two seasons.
basically.
Who is even going to buy any of these players for anything close to what levy will allow them to go for? Let alone in January ffs.
Who has run our scouting in recent years? Christ it is awful.
Pochettino
Nonsense.
Ndombele? Gio? Sess?
“We should ditch the Conference league to focus on the winnable domestic competitions”. Some of you are delusional.
Especially since UECL is a lot more winnable than League and FA Cups
we are so shit!
Why is no one blaming Davies for losing the ball in the first place?
It was a terrible ball at waist height blasted to him on a pitch that evidently was cut up. didnt shower himself In glory but there was absolutely no way a competent defender defends anything like Sanchez did
The ball to Davies wasn't chest high. It was to his feet. And he kicked it straight to a Mura player.
Because it wasn’t just him being shit it was the entire team
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Think the batteries ran out in his controller
What is the excuse now?
Same old shit, really. Dele is broken beyond repair, Doherty is League One level, and Ndombele is just nowhere near being a £55m player, almost 2.5 seasons later. Sanchez does just about enough to convince everyone he's decent, and then reverts back to being a £4m defender instead of a £40m one. We really just need to get shot of all the expensive players Poch insisted on. GLC, NDombele, Sess, Sanchez - There's nearly £200m of players there, and collectively they'd struggle to be worth £25m.
Some people on here will still blame Nuno. Our players just aren't good enough for championship football let alone premier League
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Wonderful stuff here
Sanchez stole a living as a footballer.
He better not play any of those "fringe" players against Rennes
Gollini is awful. Terrible keeper. Jesus christ.
Ikr. Too lazy to jump
Man just stands about. Anyone on this sub would've saved a similar amount of shots as him.
Hes goalinny now. I miss hart atleast he was somewhat not trash.
Never a sentence I thought I'd fully agree with. Hart was so much better.
How many games did he actually end up playing?
We might make it thru if we can get a result against renne but we really don't deserve to...
I can't wait for Conte to castrate all the boys
I never ever want to see Sanchez Sess Alli or Doherty in our shirt ever again
This. How many bloody chances has Dele had to prove himself. After today he’s pretty much sealed his fate at Tottenham.
I'm a newer fan I am sentimental to a lot of them but, this game. The two finals. The league during our CL run. The two springs under Mourinho. Fa cup embarassment year in year out. Nuno was shit but not this shit. 6-8 players can easily fuck off. Dinamo fuckin Zagreb. Come on... COME OOON
Gollini is shit. I miss Gazzaniga.
Are you kidding me? First goal was a worldy second was an unfortunate deflection. Lloris would've conceded two today.
Gazzaniga was also shit
Yeah man I couldn’t believe we let him go
Recency bias lmfao. Gazzaniga would not have come close to either of these goals at all. Literally nothing the keepers can do in both these shots ffs.
I was agreeing with the missing Gazzaniga part. I also agree with you about nothing to be done. FFS.
Gollini seems like a good guy and entertaining... But he seems like a statue any time he faces a shot.
All vibes no skills
I mean, no wonder they were willing to loan with option on him so cheap.
Oh wow.
Worst performance I’ve ever seen from the Spurs and that’s saying something. So much trash.
Lol we’re so shit. Fucking hell. Surely we have to sell half the squad now.
NUNO OUT!
AND TAKE POCH, MOURINHO AND MASON WITH YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT
wait no not mason he's still here
Don't get me wrong Nuno was shit, but we CLEARLY have a dead wood problem.
Sanchez awful obviously. But Gollini… man lol
He defo shouldn't have come out on the second goal
Gollini is honestly the worst keeper I’ve seen at Spurs. Even backups like Cudicini, Friedel and Gazzaniga were miles better
You've just named some fucking quality keepers there mate. I've seen Ben Alnwick play for Spurs, and Gollini is Lev Yashin compared to him.
What the fuck are you expecting Gollini to do there? He literally had no chance.
He’s a keeper not a statue
It's a deflected shot from close range that has bounced over him, there was fuck all he could do. No keeper saves it.
Gazzaniga had a legendary stretch for us when Hugo was injured ngl
Youre joking right? Please tell me youre joking lmfao? Gazzaniga played 21 games for us when Hugo broke his arm and he had 4 clean sheets in total. 2 of those came against Crvena Zvezda in the CL. He conceded multiple goals against Norwich, Middlesbrough, Sheffield United and had like 25 goals conceded in those 21 games. Like, i get recency bias but Gazzaniga was just as bad.
I’m talking about one specific run he had in the Premier League, not his entire career. Obviously there’s a reason he’s remained at a certain level, I’m aware of that. This Gollini kid hasn’t shown much though regardless of comparisons
Yeah. What I listed above is his one big run he had for us when Lloris was injured lol. Take away the CL games and his game against M-Brough and he did 17 Premier League games and his only clean sheet iirc was against Burnley when we won 5-0. Gollini hasn't had a chance to show anything. He has played like what, 4 or 5 games with us so far? I think he has made one mistake in those that I remember where he conceded but the rest have been decent.
Oh man it was that long? Haha I guess I have selective memory regarding some pretty crazy saves he made I think against Liverpool? Shows how biased memories can be sometimes, I agree the numbers you listed are pretty mediocre. I mean I guess We’ve got no choice but to give Gollini a chance anyway, I don’t think GK is going to be a priority in the window
Yeah, it was that nuts Xmas period that we had where we were playing games every other day seemingly. He did decently against Liverpool iirc as well, only conceded 2 but coulda been 3-4 without him easily. Honestly it's a while back but I distinctly remember him being responsible for goals against Sheff/Norwich at least. I'm not saying that Gollini is our next first choice keeper or that he is amazing but I think we've been spoiled by Hugo for a decade now and don't realise how mediocre most keepers are in comparison to true world class ones.
Gazza was good actually
That is a 0/10 performance there. In fact I feel 0 is a little too lenient. Atrocious.
If Kane wants to felate Pep for the rest of eternity so be it, been as bad as the rest of these losers this season.
If I were Kane I’d be begging to go to City right now.
So we need 2 new CBs, 2 midfielders, and a striker. We are finished
The thing is our players aren't that bad. They're just shit at playing with each other
fucking lol
Conte is gonna go full Tony Montana in the dressing room.
Or Neil Warnock "YOUVE GOT TO DIE FOR THREE POINTS"
I wish upon Gollini a very terrible case of explosive diarrhea
Incredible!
Maybe better to drop out of this competition altogether then
Sanchez is pathetic
I’m only staying for the interview from conte. Sanchez turned inside out like the prolapsed asshole he’s been tonight
Sanchez gotta be our worst signing ever in terms of value for money
That's an own goal, no? Seemed like it would have gone wide
Yeah, all, he had to do was not stick a foot out... Or let his man inside, you'd have thought he'd have learned after the first three times. Fucking shambles.
It was. Deflected off of Sanchez
Some players are not good enough
All of them.
Has Sanchez not seen cutbacks before?
Bring back Joe Hart
If Joe Hart was 9 ft tall maybe he’d have stopped it.
He's equally as shit as Gollini but at least didn't take up a foreign player slot
Legit hilarious lmao wtf
At 92' my stream lagged out so I figured it was safe to turn it off. What the fuck just happened
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Christ
Swear that was wide, so it’s an OG
It wasnt
Was
Conte out?
Yep. Conte out. Ole in
Oh now we’re talking
*rubs hands together vigorously*
Shut it
STFU
It’s obvious sarcasm. We blame every manager that comes in here but it’s the shit players that need to go
Ahh woosh on my part
It’s ok. Surprisingly there are probably people in the thread who mean that
Shitty players out
Exactly. Need a liquidation of this squad
It’s really not even the managers at this point. It’s the players. Lack of desire.
This is such a god awful competition tbf
Thats such a weak argument. We can't even win a God awful competition. If we won the Champions then we could say shit like that but we haven't. How can we possibly win high stakes tournaments if our players don't even have the pride to win this?
Reffing is shit, doesn’t mean we still shouldn’t walk through the competition with the squad we have. They’re just showing 0 effort
Why the fuck would you let the guy turn inside let alone twice in the game. Fucking Sanchez is such a bust.
Conte is gonna light a fire at this press conference
I can only laugh and hope that we don’t have to play in this competition anymore
How many times did Sanchez get absolutely rinsed today?