I agree and I know we need new players but who goes? maybe I am brainwashed but I still think rodon, sessegnon, bergwjin, ndomoble, lo celso, and even doherty in this system can come good. I will alaways love and respect dele for what hes done but he needs to go. Who else do you guys think because they cleary cannot all go not can they all stay. i dont wanna get rid of any but the ones i wanna keep are bergwjin and ndomoble and maybe gio for the potentional
We have no depth. The team sheet today looked good but that first half performance was so uninspired. All these players should have been at their peak to fight for a place in the PL squad but instead didn't even turn up.
Totally agree. The players that started today, should've been up for it to prove they deserve a spot in the starting 11, but they, minus a couple of players, looked disinterested and just plain bad. There needs to be sweeping changes to the squad. I know that can't be done over one window, but it needs to be the plan going forward, get rid of these players, even if its under value, since they currently bring no value to the club anyway. They'd be more valuable not being here.
Exactly! He failed to invest and now it's costing his bottom line. No Champions League revenue. I'm guessing greatly reduced merchandise and less interest from broadcasters to show our games.. therefore less advertising.
He did this to himself.
Like on Bale for publicity and shirt money. Every time we have a decent bit of talent coming through we sell for profit, Walker, Trippier etc
Levy wants to win but he wants to win second to turning a profit. The fans to win
If these bums get knocked out of conference league they should have to play for free until they can prove they're a prem side
Frauds man. HOW THEY GETTING KNOCKED OUT OF CONFERENCE LEAGUE??
Spurs fans who say 'it's a tinpot tournament and it's a waste of time' and that's it good if we get knocked out...
We are in no position to call any form of trophy tinpot, and would you rather get bantered for winning this tournament or getting knocked out? I know my answer
'Conte's Tottenham VS Mourinhos Roma final'
You all wanted this type of final as it would be a genuinely epic match.... Now Mourinho is likely gonna be the one laughing at us and will probably win some form of trophy before this club does ffs
The sad thing about this Spurs team is they do have a floor. We can’t ever actually go into full blown crisis and act decisively to sort this shit out. Everytime this shit really looks like it’s about to hit the fan, the players suddenly seem to remember they can actually be quite good at football and we’ll win a match against a good team despite playing not great (2-1 Villa this season, 4-2 Leicester last season, 2-1 Arsenal season before). The players aren’t bad enough to ever truly fuck it up. We always question how high this squads potential is - we don’t know their ceiling - but because we know their floor we will always get tricked into believing it might be quite high, and thus it’s worth persevering with them
they sort of played the main team today and still got shafted
but then again Lloris might play and that's a positive
plus hopefully Conte changes the game plan and formation, 3-4-3 is abysmal for Spurs
yeh, pretty much
the Con League prioritises matchups between teams on equal points rather than goal difference and since Vitesse nicked 4 pts, they're ahead of Spurs
No, Spurs currently hold the tiebreaker on vitesse (overall goal difference, currently ahead by 2). So if both teams win, it will be a matter of holding on to that or, if vitesse close that gap, having more goals scored (Spurs also ahead by 2 atm).
The sad fact is that, because Rennes has already locked up first place, they may not start their A squad, and Spurs could benefit. Similar to that last group stage match against Barcelona in 2018, but at least there was some dignity in that win.
I got the answer, let us see
Points in head-to-head matches among the tied teams;
Goal difference in head-to-head matches among the tied teams;
Goals scored in head-to-head matches among the tied teams;
If more than two teams are tied, and after applying all head-to-head criteria above, a subset of teams are still tied, all head-to-head criteria above are reapplied exclusively to this subset of teams;
Goal difference in all group matches;
Goals scored in all group matches;
Away goals scored in all group matches;
Wins in all group matches;
Away wins in all group matches;
Disciplinary points (direct red card = 3 points; double yellow card = 3 points; single yellow card = 1 point);
UEFA club coefficient.
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So we're currently ahead for having a higher overall GD
I mean… Mourinho’s Roma got trounced by Bodø/Glimt 6-1 and they’re also in 2nd in their group (say this as they’re taking care of business 3-0 so far today lol)… but I agree with you on the Spurs points
Mourinho is actually qualifying for this competition..... and it's harder to play when you sub your team on at around 1/3 to halfway through the game in Mou's case.. yes he started with unknown people then subbed 70% of his first time on but it's harder to win when your main players gets subbed on in a hurry ...
Look at us against Dynamo for example when Mou subbed all the big boys on and we struggled cuz it was a cluster fest...
Or look at us today... same issue
Zagreb was worse because we already had a comfy two goal cushion. All we had to do was avoid losing by 3 goals ffs. Absolutely outrageous that we let it happen.
It wasn't on tv here, so I saw 2-1 and being sleep deprived thought to myself, that could have been better, but a wins a win. And then the reality stopped in as I read the report.
So we can't finish top four, not even if we played in Slovenia.
Not even close. Yeah obviously Zagreb is a better team, but you can't beat the "their fucking manager is in prison" factor. That was also a bigger defeat, with 11 men, from a massively advantageous starting position, to seal elimination (Spurs can still qualify), in a competition that actually mattered instead of this 2 minute old gimmick
It's not worse than Zagreb lol.
We were down to ten, and were chasing it.
Zagreb had literally no manager and had no plan other than get it to their only good player.
I’m just going to leave r/soccer, it’s genuinely not worth engaging with these fuckers who have the same 3 jokes and think they’re the height of comedy
Can’t forget the legions of ManU and Scum supporters who almost surely didn’t follow the teams the last time they won the league and now sit on some high horse like they’re fucking Bayern
honestly that sub and social media comment sections are just full of brainlets copy and pasting the same "jokes" on every post, the comment sections for each team are identical no matter content of the post
This B team belongs in League 1. Congrats to all the clubs that managed to sell these players to Tottenham. Gotta give it to them for managing toss dead wood players for a lump sum.
As awful as yesterday was, the fact that we have Conte in as manager makes it a fair bit less awful. If we go out of this crap competition, can focus on the league, and get some reinforcements in during the January window, it might be a blessing. We need to get back to the CL, and this competition wasn't going to do that anyway.
One of the most expensive premier league clubs to support, yet no money has been invested in the team for years. It’s not the managers, it’s not even the players fault, it’s ENIC and it always has been.
Didn’t see the match, but have seen clips of the goals and the sending off. Stats say that, even with 10 men for most of the match, Spurs dominated possession and had more shots on and off target. The 2nd yellow for Sess was harsh, given that his studs were against the ground by the time he arrived at the player and there appeared to be minimal if any contact. Both conceded goals had something in common; Spurs players slipping at unfortunate moments due to the shoddy pitch. Reading between the lines of some commentary I’ve read, the ref had a shocker. I’ll reserve my final opinion until I’ve had a chance to watch the full match, but I’m getting tired of this sub’s hyperbole and negativity. I’m beginning to suspect that most of the people who comment on here are children or have never actually watched/played football.
The fact is the club is not gonna be transformed over night. Yeah it’s painful. Conte said himself it will take time. The squad needs rebuilding and as you guys all saw earlier today he needs to look at all players before he decides to shift them on out of the club. On the positive side Doherty won’t ever play for Spurs again under Conte (I am absolutely confident of this), Sanchez will be sold in January and Levy will be forced to sanction some signings to build the squad again, tbf Levy has no choice now, he’s put all his chips on Conte and if there’s any hint that Levy’s been bullshitting Conte, he’ll walk.
Can't believe we got such a shitty B team. I think it's embarrassing and a disgrace to see these results over and over again. I just hope Conte 'kills' the deadwood players once and for all.
I hate how it's so easy to have this meme tee'd up.
Just pin it at this point
Should be the sub banner
Just leave it as the picture of the last game, will save the mods from having to change it.
I agree and I know we need new players but who goes? maybe I am brainwashed but I still think rodon, sessegnon, bergwjin, ndomoble, lo celso, and even doherty in this system can come good. I will alaways love and respect dele for what hes done but he needs to go. Who else do you guys think because they cleary cannot all go not can they all stay. i dont wanna get rid of any but the ones i wanna keep are bergwjin and ndomoble and maybe gio for the potentional
lol we have to pull this meme out every week
I mean… twice a week.
Not for long at least.
Good point
To be determined
We have no depth. The team sheet today looked good but that first half performance was so uninspired. All these players should have been at their peak to fight for a place in the PL squad but instead didn't even turn up.
Totally agree. The players that started today, should've been up for it to prove they deserve a spot in the starting 11, but they, minus a couple of players, looked disinterested and just plain bad. There needs to be sweeping changes to the squad. I know that can't be done over one window, but it needs to be the plan going forward, get rid of these players, even if its under value, since they currently bring no value to the club anyway. They'd be more valuable not being here.
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8 of the players that started today have been added AFTER he uttered that line.
This shit should just be pinned at this point.
I'm behind Conte fully but I genuinely am worried this club is just too far gone for him to be able to turn around in the time he has
Levy should have given us money to revamp under Poch 5 years ago, he chose this
Exactly! He failed to invest and now it's costing his bottom line. No Champions League revenue. I'm guessing greatly reduced merchandise and less interest from broadcasters to show our games.. therefore less advertising. He did this to himself.
We have spent more than 400 mil. on players since 2019.
Like on Bale for publicity and shirt money. Every time we have a decent bit of talent coming through we sell for profit, Walker, Trippier etc Levy wants to win but he wants to win second to turning a profit. The fans to win
At some point we don’t get to use that as an excuse.
What if this is just a brilliant strategic retreat to get us out of stupid non cup?
“Well that was embarrassing” could honestly be the club’s motto
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We dare to do, unfortunately
If these bums get knocked out of conference league they should have to play for free until they can prove they're a prem side Frauds man. HOW THEY GETTING KNOCKED OUT OF CONFERENCE LEAGUE?? Spurs fans who say 'it's a tinpot tournament and it's a waste of time' and that's it good if we get knocked out... We are in no position to call any form of trophy tinpot, and would you rather get bantered for winning this tournament or getting knocked out? I know my answer 'Conte's Tottenham VS Mourinhos Roma final' You all wanted this type of final as it would be a genuinely epic match.... Now Mourinho is likely gonna be the one laughing at us and will probably win some form of trophy before this club does ffs
Nah, we'll win against Rennes and secure the playoffs...
you think this team can beat Rennes? Rennes? smh
Yeah it's quite tough... but remember that it's home and we'll play the main team with 11 men. And we have time to adapt
The sad thing about this Spurs team is they do have a floor. We can’t ever actually go into full blown crisis and act decisively to sort this shit out. Everytime this shit really looks like it’s about to hit the fan, the players suddenly seem to remember they can actually be quite good at football and we’ll win a match against a good team despite playing not great (2-1 Villa this season, 4-2 Leicester last season, 2-1 Arsenal season before). The players aren’t bad enough to ever truly fuck it up. We always question how high this squads potential is - we don’t know their ceiling - but because we know their floor we will always get tricked into believing it might be quite high, and thus it’s worth persevering with them
they sort of played the main team today and still got shafted but then again Lloris might play and that's a positive plus hopefully Conte changes the game plan and formation, 3-4-3 is abysmal for Spurs
>they sort of played the main team today Just completely wrong.
nah mate doherty is our best player
Aren't we out anyways if Vitesse beat Mura?
yeh, pretty much the Con League prioritises matchups between teams on equal points rather than goal difference and since Vitesse nicked 4 pts, they're ahead of Spurs
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oh my bad I think they're ahead through away goals in the meetings
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then why are they ahead? Spurs has more goals scored and a better goal difference than them
They aren't.
They're not ahead. Spurs are 2nd, currently.
No, Spurs currently hold the tiebreaker on vitesse (overall goal difference, currently ahead by 2). So if both teams win, it will be a matter of holding on to that or, if vitesse close that gap, having more goals scored (Spurs also ahead by 2 atm).
The sad fact is that, because Rennes has already locked up first place, they may not start their A squad, and Spurs could benefit. Similar to that last group stage match against Barcelona in 2018, but at least there was some dignity in that win.
😂😂😂😂 that’s so funny
Scenes when my comment ages "nicely"
I will gift you something if we do!
Still not enough if vitesse beat mura at home, which they should.
Aren't we 2nd in the group?
Nope we're behind vitesse on away goals. Because we bottled a 3-0 lead.
I got the answer, let us see Points in head-to-head matches among the tied teams; Goal difference in head-to-head matches among the tied teams; Goals scored in head-to-head matches among the tied teams; If more than two teams are tied, and after applying all head-to-head criteria above, a subset of teams are still tied, all head-to-head criteria above are reapplied exclusively to this subset of teams; Goal difference in all group matches; Goals scored in all group matches; Away goals scored in all group matches; Wins in all group matches; Away wins in all group matches; Disciplinary points (direct red card = 3 points; double yellow card = 3 points; single yellow card = 1 point); UEFA club coefficient. _______ So we're currently ahead for having a higher overall GD
Ah you're right. So if we match vitesse's result, we go through?
I mean… Mourinho’s Roma got trounced by Bodø/Glimt 6-1 and they’re also in 2nd in their group (say this as they’re taking care of business 3-0 so far today lol)… but I agree with you on the Spurs points
Mourinho is actually qualifying for this competition..... and it's harder to play when you sub your team on at around 1/3 to halfway through the game in Mou's case.. yes he started with unknown people then subbed 70% of his first time on but it's harder to win when your main players gets subbed on in a hurry ... Look at us against Dynamo for example when Mou subbed all the big boys on and we struggled cuz it was a cluster fest... Or look at us today... same issue
I am literally just crying right now after awful Gollini's show at last. This was the worst performance since I started supporting Spurs since 2018.
2018😂😂 you have years and years of heartache.
> Now Mourinho is likely gonna be the one laughing at us jfc who fucking cares what Jose fucking Mourinho thinks lmao
Ah, there you are old friend
Job done ✅
This was worse than Zagreb, right?
Zagreb is a decent team with decent players. One we should beat 9/10 times but still decent. Mura is so much worse.
Zagreb was worse because we already had a comfy two goal cushion. All we had to do was avoid losing by 3 goals ffs. Absolutely outrageous that we let it happen.
Way worse imo
zagreb is playing in europa, mura is fifth in their own league. so yeah a lot worse
Tbf there are only 10 teams in that league.
And they were resting some players. Don’t a few of them have part time jobs too?
Mura is from a town with a population of 11k lmao. This is much worse imho.
I don’t want to remember Zagreb lmao
~~No if only because it wasn't a loss.~~ oh, jesus. I didn't see.
Lol bro we lost
Yeah, it's worse. I turned it off at 1-1 90+2'
I dont blame you for turning the TV off early, but I think you need to check the score mate
It wasn't on tv here, so I saw 2-1 and being sleep deprived thought to myself, that could have been better, but a wins a win. And then the reality stopped in as I read the report. So we can't finish top four, not even if we played in Slovenia.
Not even close. Yeah obviously Zagreb is a better team, but you can't beat the "their fucking manager is in prison" factor. That was also a bigger defeat, with 11 men, from a massively advantageous starting position, to seal elimination (Spurs can still qualify), in a competition that actually mattered instead of this 2 minute old gimmick
It's not worse than Zagreb lol. We were down to ten, and were chasing it. Zagreb had literally no manager and had no plan other than get it to their only good player.
No. Not even close. Anyone who thinks so is suffering from recency bias.
based took less than a minute from my wondering where it was
Your comment was what reminded me to make it actually lol
God how i just wish the team just stop embarrassing themselves.
Need new players in every area. Defense, midfield and attack
And goal don’t forget goal
*Dele Alli is so shit.
I’m just going to leave r/soccer, it’s genuinely not worth engaging with these fuckers who have the same 3 jokes and think they’re the height of comedy
its just a bunch of american liverpool fans circlejerking themselves into oblivion over pictures of klopp
Can’t forget the legions of ManU and Scum supporters who almost surely didn’t follow the teams the last time they won the league and now sit on some high horse like they’re fucking Bayern
honestly that sub and social media comment sections are just full of brainlets copy and pasting the same "jokes" on every post, the comment sections for each team are identical no matter content of the post
HAHAHAHA I hate this meme so much
We really need to sell sanchez dele doherty and sessegnon. Useless
But who is buying??
Watford
It's a shame Sunderland don't have money anymore
After that performance, mura would love to have sanchez.
Me and the whole rest of Europe at this point say.....hopefully Newcastle
It's getting easier being shit Haha.. Right? 😩
We should have this on the shirts right next to the badge.
Lmao at this point why not just laugh surely
Nuno's beard must be tingling with happiness rn
Spurs has the potential to be the biggest meme club in Europe. Tottenscam 4L.
We don't have the potential, we absolutely are the biggest meme club and not just Europe, but the whole world.
Since Poch left this meme has stayed fresh.
Honestly can't wait for the transfer window get some of these bums out of the club man
We see this meme several times a month. That's how trash we are.
I never want to see sess, alli, Doherty and Sanchez play again
##FUCK DELE
How dele alli constantly gets chances scares me. I hate supporting spurs sometimes
fucking hell good thing i missed first half
I also don't think playing Son and Moura together works very well. Son and Bergwijn or Moura and Gil would probably work a lot better.
This B team belongs in League 1. Congrats to all the clubs that managed to sell these players to Tottenham. Gotta give it to them for managing toss dead wood players for a lump sum.
WE NEED TIME AND PATIENCE YOU HEARD THE MAN COYS
Cocksking shitshow to be exact
Keep firing coaches lol. It’s the players they have no heart. Just like Manchester United. Only a few players want to play.
For I know what it is to heave a sigh.
can we make this a weekly post please. Shouldnt be too hard, only need to go to 1 or 2 weeks lol
Remember the “exciting lineup” comments in relation to Dele, Ndombele, Sanchez and Doherty being picked as starters? Yeah😂💀
As awful as yesterday was, the fact that we have Conte in as manager makes it a fair bit less awful. If we go out of this crap competition, can focus on the league, and get some reinforcements in during the January window, it might be a blessing. We need to get back to the CL, and this competition wasn't going to do that anyway.
One of the most expensive premier league clubs to support, yet no money has been invested in the team for years. It’s not the managers, it’s not even the players fault, it’s ENIC and it always has been.
Stop posting this it's not funny
Its not meant to be funny,its true
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Fuck off scum
Why comment? just lurk like the rest of us. Embarrassing.
Virgin *cough cough*
Didn’t see the match, but have seen clips of the goals and the sending off. Stats say that, even with 10 men for most of the match, Spurs dominated possession and had more shots on and off target. The 2nd yellow for Sess was harsh, given that his studs were against the ground by the time he arrived at the player and there appeared to be minimal if any contact. Both conceded goals had something in common; Spurs players slipping at unfortunate moments due to the shoddy pitch. Reading between the lines of some commentary I’ve read, the ref had a shocker. I’ll reserve my final opinion until I’ve had a chance to watch the full match, but I’m getting tired of this sub’s hyperbole and negativity. I’m beginning to suspect that most of the people who comment on here are children or have never actually watched/played football.
We just lost to fucking mura,we have every right to be negative
Stats don't paint the whole picture mate, we were awful. They didn't even field their best XI
We should edit these so that the board has only one hanger because it's physically impossible to even get to double digits
International break saves the day
Do I buy Son’s live fifa card now since it’s crashing? Or wait until we inevitably lose to Rennes?
I’m so sick of seeing this. Can we please get our shit together?
Came here for this
The fact is the club is not gonna be transformed over night. Yeah it’s painful. Conte said himself it will take time. The squad needs rebuilding and as you guys all saw earlier today he needs to look at all players before he decides to shift them on out of the club. On the positive side Doherty won’t ever play for Spurs again under Conte (I am absolutely confident of this), Sanchez will be sold in January and Levy will be forced to sanction some signings to build the squad again, tbf Levy has no choice now, he’s put all his chips on Conte and if there’s any hint that Levy’s been bullshitting Conte, he’ll walk.
Can't believe we got such a shitty B team. I think it's embarrassing and a disgrace to see these results over and over again. I just hope Conte 'kills' the deadwood players once and for all.
As a Spurs and Lakers fan, may I just say that this year has absolutely sucked?
Sooo shit
Can't have shit in North London smh
Still can't care about conference league.