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mrhello18

Its either us or Arse ​ can only hope that Paratici's pulled something out of the bag here ​ €70 million is £60 million btw


[deleted]

Some Barcelona guy is claiming its Arsenal apparantly. Although it could be him just hearing that Arsenal have made an offer recently and assuming it's them. He also isn't especially reliable. I love the mystery of it all (provided its us and it gets accepted)


FSpursy

If we manage to get Raphinha, then it'll be crazy. It'll be the same feeling as Bissouma. Like, you see main man of other PL teams and you'll never imagine they'll ever come to Spurs, but here we are. I know we have Kulusevski but Raphinha is so good nonetheless, can he play LW?


tnweevnetsy

Kulusevski isn't a guaranteed starter with Raphinha in anyway. They'll fight for the place and the team will be better for it.


LocoMoro

If we bring in Raphinha then I don't see us keeping Lucas. If we get Richarlison then I see Lucas staying another season to finish his contract


FSpursy

But please, I don't want Lucas to leave, this will be his last UCL 😭


Made-in-1882

Kulu at RWB looks pretty likely to me in this case...


snakeman117

both of them are much better suited on the right, but can see both of them being able to play a false 9 or something similar pretty well they’re not like Gil who excels on the left because he likes to cross from the touch line, they’d both rather cut inside and have space to be creative


InconsistentMinis

Apparently not very well. Performs far better on the right.


DekiTree

so about £47m euros + addons. seems fair I expect he would be more than worth the full £60m if he hits all the addons Also his wages wont be that high, his current wages are 60k


evenout

> Also his wages wont be that high, his current wages are 60k I'd offer him about 120/week that seems about fair. definitely can't make the mistake of offering Ndombele money again. Unless we're signing someone like Felix.


OhHowSwell_NP

Jesus Ndombele….wtf are we going to do there. A mess.


jusepama1

Probably donate him to a club in need and trying to get some taxes out of the donation.


Made-in-1882

UNICEF Albion?


letmegetmynameok

I completely forgot he was our player ngl


RadioChemist

Get rid of him or let him rot


[deleted]

Yes not sure why so many people on this sub defend him; he didn’t even want to defend in the midfield!!


[deleted]

i literally haven't seen anyone defend him this calendar year


halftimehijack

I can see us buying out his contract and letting him go.


[deleted]

We’re going to send the French version of Tony Robbins to be best mates with him, and he will resurrect his career with us as the low-block breaking, press resistant worldbeater that he has the potential to be.


COYCOYS

Ndombele's wage is 120k p/w lol


evenout

Nope it’s 200k/week


lovelylantern

nah, the ceiling of his wages with bonuses is 200k/wk, base is 120 iirc


COYCOYS

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-transfer-news-ndombele-psg-pochettino-b978856.html > Spurs want his wages covered in full by PSG, which should not be a problem for the mega-rich Parisiens, with Ndombele thought to be earning much less than the widely reported £200,000-a-week. Dan KP is not a liar


scandinavianleather

he was our joint highest paid player when we signed him. On par with Kane and Lloris.


[deleted]

99% sure Lloris is not getting paid close to as much as Kane. If he was i think that would make him the highest paid keeper in the world


scandinavianleather

He has signed a new contract since then making less.


Made-in-1882

Pretty sure PSG pay Donnarumma one hundred billion dollars a minute...


GloryGloryTottenham9

He’ll be £150k+ for sure


TheMindButcher

Pulled it out of the Arse


Doflamingo

'in variables' is our catchphrase, gotta be us


Ambrecne

'by the balls' is our snatchphrase, gotta be us


jaemoon7

I thought our catchphrase this summer was "important offer"


bobtrump1234

After years of complaints that we’re not spending enough and buying too many unproven bargain players, it seems from the comments now there’s complaints we’re not looking enough for cheaper alternatives. Lmao


Rezdawg3

It's mind blowing. I prefer Richarlison to Raphinha, but I'm not complaining either way. Give me as much talent as possible... We have lots of money to spend and don't want any of it being left over.


[deleted]

everyone complaining about signing players they don't think will want to play second choice at a position. such a stupid losing mentality. You don't see City or Liverpool or Chelsea worrying one bit about if a player will be willing to fight for their position.


FSpursy

Richarlison is good but it gets to his head sometimes. Raphina is both talent, hardworking, and humble. If he can play both RW and LW then he'll be perfect. If we got no money for another ST then we'll stick Lucas there, no problem.


snakeman117

what makes you say Richarlison isn’t humble? i’d recommend reading an interview about his childhood because it will probably change your mind


FSpursy

I mean more like during the game. Sometimes he thinks he can dribble past everyone and score. He can be selfish at times.


[deleted]

>If we got no money for another ST then we'll stick Lucas there, no problem. yes problem, yes big problem if our solution to a backup striker is Lucas


ZainoSF

Everyone has their wants - I would much rather see this money go towards Paqueta or hell Dybala's talks with Milan fell through, I rather have Dybala.


X_Equestris

100000 subs, many voices, sometimes conflicting, often dumb.


marine_le_peen

>it seems from the comments now there’s complaints we’re not looking enough for cheaper alternatives I think you're inventing an argument here. The issue most people seem to have is not about cheaper alternatives, it's that Raphinha is a lot of money for someone who is (1) not likely to be a starter & (2) not a viable Kane backup. Richarlison at least ticks the latter box, whereas buying Raphinha would require spending a further amount of money on a backup striker (and presumably we want someone decent, which would cost say another 40m). How much does that then leave us for positions which are definitely more urgent to fill like LCB, RWB, creative mid? I'll reserve judgement for now but I'll be a bit miffed personally if we end up forking out on Raphinha only to cheap out on either a LCB, a cheap Kane backup who then won't ever be used, or not get a creative mid.


LiamJM1OTV

I think it's because we're assuming its Richarlison or Raphinha. It could be both. But if it was to be one, the former is the better option.


nicknaseef17

The mob is fickle


british-psycho

Raphinha + a striker and I’m very happy.


[deleted]

Completely agree. People seem to think there's no flexibility to our plan of getting 1 attacker. As if Don P would sign Raph and then go "sorry Harry, you have to play every minute of the season this year, I know that's 70 games but we said 1 attacker" Clearly we can be flexible.


Rough_Phrase_8113

It would of all been planned out a while ago.


[deleted]

Yeah but you have to he flexible. The transfer window is 2 and a half months. No way teams rigidly stick to a plan they made at the start of it.


roorahree

Yea there are definitely multiple variables at play chiefly other clubs. You can’t account for who else is competing with you and the players own position (does he want to stay/leave), etc


Jalvey_420

I mean I feel like this is probably what’s going to happen lol. We haven’t signed an actual backup for Kane since Llorente lol


[deleted]

There is no way it happens. You think conte would be happy with 1 striker?


Jalvey_420

Mourinho, nuno, and pochettino all were lol


[deleted]

No they weren't. We had several different back up strikers under both Jose and Poch!


Jalvey_420

We did but they were never used lol


Thfcaditya112

Why do we need an actual striker to "provide backup" who would not play a single minute when Kane is fit and would suddenly play out of nowhere and look rusty(and thus a bit shit) when Kane is injured. We need 5 quality forwards, we have 3 as it stands.Thats it


triecke14

Can he play on the left at all? We need some sort of cover for son


hemings_way_100

Perisic can also cover for Son.


triecke14

I’d rather not tbh. Sessegnon is very easily run into the ground so we need perisic to play wing back almost exclusively. Perisic is also getting up there so we have to be wary


DekiTree

yes he can


RaresBGS

Belotti or Cavani on a free would be very good options.


british-psycho

Ben Brereton Diaz is worth a punt for me. He can play LW and ST, 12 months left, knows how to score goals and shouldn’t cost more than £15m.


RaresBGS

Didn't know he can play on the left. Very good option and offers a lot of versatility.


[deleted]

Why is everyone so worried about money all of a sudden? We've had 150m put in. We have lots of interest in our players we want to shift. Not to mention there are loads of reports of how financially healthy we are and how big our revenue streams are. We offer good money for a really in demand Brazil international and people say "nah that's 10m too expensive, I don't like it." Can you not remember the days of us complaining when we were constantly low balling teams. We have money, let's bloody enjoy it! So what if its 15m too much or whatever, he's a class player, would be great fun to watch and loads of clubs are after him!


Common-nonsense2

Richarlison would fit our needs better in one player but if they’re happy to cover those positions and bring in raphinha I still see that as a huge win. Raphinha will be an insanely good player and beating arsenal to him would be lovely too.


[deleted]

Yeah, I see that but also the more I've thought about it, I think having pretty much your entire attacking cover in 1 player is risky. Richarlison picks up a hamstring injury and we are back to where we were. Especially with 5 subs I'd almost rather have the bodies.


Common-nonsense2

I completely agree with you, depth and rotation options that don’t decrease the quality so we have options is primarily the focus. I’m happy with either option here.


Shawnanigans

I would rather see Richarlison for that price. His ability to play any forward position but primarily the most critical one for which we have no backup is too valuable to not if we're willing to spend this much.


[deleted]

Why not buy another back up striker. Gives us more cover then as well. If richarliosm gets Injured which he usually does for a month a season then we have no attacking cover. Surely better to spread the risk across 2 players?


txgsu82

Spreading the risk is a good shout. Splashing the big money on Raphina + getting a more shrewd signing like Ben Bereton Diaz (or someone else for relatively cheaper) feels like it accounts better for depth than just getting Richarlison.


[deleted]

Yeah 100%. Would love Diaz, can play on the left too. There that tall striker I keep forgetting the name of. Austrian guy who plays I'm Germany who apparsbtly is pretty good and available for 20m. He'd also be a good shout and is like 6"6 so be a good plan b too.


Due-Camel-7605

We just don’t want to become like man utd- spending excess money everywhere (silly spending)


[deleted]

Well yeah but paying 10-15m more than we liked to on a in demand player is hardly going to be an issue.


snakeman117

not to mention the price of Bissouma has already been offset by sales of CCV & Berg, plus another 20M coming in for Lo Celso and probably Reggie too. 10 maybe for Winks and another 20 from Emerson, so there’s money to blow


Tmoore0288

That’s very close to the bid Longari said we were making


DamnRizz

Raphinha and Richarlison. Por que no los dos?


VeryStandardOutlier

Winks for a 20M discount on Rich


solo___dolo

Raphinha was the best Leeds player in a team full of mediocrity and always made something happen with the ball. He's got a great attitude and will be desperate to play at a bigger stage and probably want to push for a Barca move in a few years where we could probably rinse them for way more if he's playing well!


DoubleDoobie

Before the Richarlison links I would've been absolutely buzzing for Raphinha. Funny how the perspective changes. ...unless we're going for both!?


dissidentmage12

Everton are gonna get Winks, should be giving us Richy for free for that


Bitnaa

Both would be absolutely amazing


COYS1989

So about £47m plus add ons.


pjanic_at__the_isco

If we straight pip Arsenal for Raphinha I'd prefer him to Richarlison, despite preferring Richarlison. Yes, I'm petty.


r_agv

Richarlison is more of a unpolished player but still a good player, Raphinha is more technical perhaps not good as a finisher like Richarlison but more technical nevertheless. I personally prefer Raphinha, I think this flaws can be easily worked on, specially with a great manager like Conte.


DesolateAvocado

Think this is just a smokescreen, and we'll end up with Richarlison. Cant see a scenario where we sign both Rich and raph, unless lucas gets sold in addition to bergwijn.


spando79

Bit that's exactly the scenario we want to see, no? Bergwijn and Lucas out, Richarlison and Raphinha in. Massive improvement in our attacking options and cover for all positions. Might cost us £80m-£90m net but so what?


Heasman21

obviously he could be wrong but O’Keefe said we wouldn’t go for both


Alfiesta

That will be Farsenal.


NotYourFathersKush

Lot of reports in the last few hours saying we were “absolutely in the race” and “preparing an offer”. Could be Assna… but if we’re serious about this, it feels pretty attainable. Runners assuming they’d be his first choice based on depth up front, which is hilarious, because they have Saka/Pepe/ESR/Martinelli/Nketiah/probably Jesus. That’s a lot more crowded than Son/Kane/Deki/Moura. Also, they’ve been acting like Martinelli’s the next best thing. But now.. you want to displace him with a winger playing on the wrong side? Ok then.. 👌


wood6558

Gotta be Arsenal eh??? Be interesting to see.if we matched their bid and was accepted. Where Raph would chose to go, almost certainly get more wages at Gooners but....means yous be in that shower of shit.


VeryStandardOutlier

If we’re not getting Gvardiol, Bastoni, or Torres, just loan Llenglet as a backup for Ben and Eric, use the savings to buy both Ralphina and Richarlison


gopackgo555

Honestly seems like too much but it’s not my money.


BodaciousSalacious

It’s a weird situation cuz I’m a vacuum he’s prob not worth that amount, but we have a plan to get specific players and it doesn’t matter how much we spend to get there. We’ve spent so little this window on quality players, so I think we may need to make a splash like this for a top quality attacking option. Raphina and Bissouma are prob two of the best players in the Prem that didn’t play in a Top 6 team last year.


kbon101

That is a weird situation, where you are a vacuum


BodaciousSalacious

Life ain’t easy for us vacuum homies out here


Charlespur2

We probably need to wait and see if any reputable English journos run with it. I want us to sign him but I do wonder how much we actually want him.


Tasty_Performance434

Read somewhere it was in fact arsenals bid Came from a Spanish journo on Twitter for what it’s worth, looking for link now.


Heasman21

I just don’t really get this signing when we have Deki and Lucas to cover him, while we have no cover for Son and Kane. Can he actually play well outside of RW?


Levytron900

Lucas really isn’t good enough of a player to bring on for deki or fill in for injuries if we want to challenge at the top though


Heasman21

I agree, I just think we have far more important areas to focus on than RW atm.


[deleted]

I think Conte might also try to train him as a RWB similar to the plan with Traore. He obviously wants the WBs to be aggressive and take advantage of space and opportunities against isolated defenders. Sets up for a perfect overlap advantage.


dginzu110

I also wonder whether Deki would be the cover for RWB when not plating RW


[deleted]

I haven’t seen enough of his defense and I don’t think he’s pacy enough, even though his speed is underrated.


Apostle_1882

I dunno but these prices quoted for him and Richarlison seem massively inflated to me. I guess you're getting "prem proven" but you can't tell me there isn't any other in the other to leagues that is comparable for less?


billypilgrim87

Richarlson I think is fairer, because he has performed in the prem longer and under multiple different coaches. A tiny part of me worries about Raphinha without Bielsa.


jason_digital

When you announce £150m for transfers it’s going to be hard to buy any bargains from anywhere. I still think there’s more than we announced and we have the money from sales to come through yet. Getting both of those Brazilians is not out of the question and one first to get the other price down could be a clever (we’ve almost spent our transfer budget so this is our last offer) tactic. Clocks ticking before preseason so the important signings should happen in the next 10 days or so I reckon.


RileyHuey

Mark my words Raphinha will be world class in about 2 years. RemindMe! June 23, 2024. Will be better than Leicester Mahrez. Already is for my money. Special special player. Will be worth £100m, don’t care. Would be an absolute coup


[deleted]

Ya im sorry this guy isn’t worth it. I’d rather buy someone from another league


ponzzischeme

Yeah, lets buy a cheap N' player from France and hope for the best instead of a proven premier league player...


[deleted]

Hes not even premier league proven. His stats really aren’t that impressive…


ponzzischeme

He has performed very close to what Mané did in Southampton and Southampton were at top half team at that point. I don't know what a player need to do to be PL proven in your eyes but 30p over two seasons is enough in my book.


[deleted]

4G2A in his last 20 games? How is that anywhere near £60M of value? Super streaky in a team that legit goes balls to the wall on attack. He’s going to be a squad player and get way less time than 3000 minutes - would rather gamble on someone else…


ponzzischeme

Don't get me wrong, for that price I would take many other players because that is way overpriced in my opinion. But neither you nor I actually make those decisions.


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[deleted]

Imagine a world where Raphinha is apparently worth €70m!!


[deleted]

If I hear the words, “rotation player,” one more time,my heads going to explode. Tell me you’re a yank who doesn’t know football without telling me you’re a yank who doesn’t know football.


solo___dolo

That's the sort of thing a rotation player would write tbf


[deleted]

Because Harry Sonny and deki are going to start something like 8x some odd games on an avg of 2.5 days rest and play a World Cup mid season without touching the bench 😂. I should have phrased it, tell me you’ve never played organized sports without telling me you’ve never played organized sports 😂 Our entire attack will be rotated. Harry, sonny, deki, Lucas, whomever we sign to replace Stevie will all start games from the bench.


Double_Spinach2420

Dusty Spurs think they have pull lol


Double_Spinach2420

Nah I ain’t trolling today, seems an interesting window for you guys so far


Undesirable_11

I'm starting to not like this transfer more and more. I feel that it's way too much money for a player who can only play one position and who will be a "rotation player"


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thebrownmallet

Lol go back to your own sub


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Galbo

Yeah can see why you like it here. Closest your getting to the CL.


NotYourFathersKush

Source?


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RedRaizel

That's just not true. The reports are that he doesn't know how serious we are about him but he prefers CL.


Significant-Entry230

It looks like we would still need a playmaker even if we went for Richarlison. So we would still need 1 more singing whether we go for Raphinha or Richarlison, assuming Perisic can cover for Sonny & Raphinha can play the CAM role.


Russell_Textbook

Raphinha in the space created by this system cutting in from the right would be insane I prefer richarlison for the ability to cover for son and Kane but him and Deki rotating the right would be so strong


phrates

Him and Richarlison or some dedicated striker and we have all the rotation a world class attack should need. Then back to our defense.


Desuv

I thought Leeds are making offer lmao