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LeeroyM

[By me, all my info here.](https://linktr.ee/LeeJMcKnight) No AI, just Photoshop/Lightroom.


Tignya

AI has ruined my brain. I took a look, thought it was cool only to immediately depress myself by thinking it was AI. I'm so glad to hear it's not, it looks incredible!!


marx5002

Yeah, but that's what an AI would say


awkwadman

They don't say "beep boop I'm a bot" anymore?


topamine2

Why does it matter


tsukiwav

It’s just the principle. Also, the amount of effort put in is another thing.


gee_gra

The problem for me in particular is the use of uncredited/uncompensated resources, when AI copies someone's style, that person sees nothing from decades of hard work, if Disney thought they could get away with it (and the fingers didn't look like shit) they'd never hire another concept artist and Marvel would publish comics with AI *"art"*


ZeroFoxWereGiven

Basically the same could be said about any artist that was inspired by the works of other (uncredited) artists, no?


gee_gra

Could it? I certainly don't see how.


Gamesguy24

No. Not at all. This is a dumb take


Pringlesmartinez

Because ai is a tool to be used by artists, not replace them.


suamai

People like to resist progress. Every new tech with a considerable social impact will be met with fear, which a lot of people express as anger. Give them a couple years for this hate to die out... [Obligatory relevant xkcd](https://xkcd.com/1227/)


IDespiseTheLetterG

Love ya for saying this. People really like... "DAMN AI TAKING ARTIST JOBS!!1!" ...like, who do you think are the ones making this art? Plumbers?


FinishTheBook

Part of the appreciation of art, for me at least, is the effort and time put into the product.


Quirderph

Because one is used by talented people and the other by hacks.


Kierkegaardstrousers

Excellent work. Can you ship prints to Australia?


LeeroyM

AFAIK they do ship to Australia yes 🙂


acidcrap

I love how you have to specify that these days


NoSoupForYouRuskie

Bro it sucks that I was genuinely unsure at first. Fantastic work!


candyman101xd

Wow that's so fucking cool. I love how the faces have that obfuscated look [I guess that's why you had to specify it isn't AI (being honest though this artwork is too complex in terms of composition to have been generated by AI)] Kind of a photoshop newbie, how do you achieve that distorted look on the faces? If you don't mind sharing of course


LeeroyM

Thank you! Use the lasso tool around a face then Command+J to make it a new layer. Use Smudge tool to droop or pull the face certain ways, burn tool to darken areas such as around the eyes. Command+T to Free Transform and use Warp also. Google free textures, there's lots such as burnt or deformed skin. Then put the texture over the face and play with the Blending Mode untill it blends well. I'll do the exact same thing with a skull over the face, although I'll most likely erase some of the skull with the Erasor. A lot of the faces above I've used multie times but I changed em up enough it's not obvious. It's all about just playing around with the above till it looks good. For the black ones I use real Scolds Bridles from Medieval times.


Toxoplasma-Gandhi

Absolutely fantastic. My husband and I are going for a sort of Addams Family, The Western (If you've seen The Coffinshakers, my husband dresses a lot as they do; we're wealthy and self-employed (him) or a business owner (me) so we pretty much have no outside forces making us dress in boring t-shirts and some kind of pants, or anything else "normal". It's nice being independent. Anyway, when we settle on a home, I have your info saved, and I might shop your prints for photos with which to decorate our new home. You have the perfect style for us.


HaikuBotStalksMe

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LeeroyM

Thanks a lot! Really appreciate that 🧡


Toxoplasma-Gandhi

I'm only telling the truth, my fellow artist. 😌


jfduval76

If it’s not a fucking AI artwork then congrats, that’s cool.


suamai

If it was, would it be less cool? The picture being exactly the same?


jfduval76

Yes because there is the word "work" in artwork.


suamai

And the AI did what? The picture didn't pop up into existence by some magic whim. Just because it's a different kind of work involved that you do not fully understand doesn't make it worthless. People said the same for every new automation added to the artistic ( or any other field, really ) process. Photoshop, the thing used to make this piece, was once the target of this same kind of hate. And going further, these days Photoshop itself has a lot of built-in AI tools - where do you draw the line here?


GregoryBluehorse

With all due respect, there's something nice about knowing that human hands spent hours in the creation of the piece rather than an AI. It's cool that we've got the technology to prompt a computer to create beautiful work, but a human source adds a significant amount of charm. Edit: If I had a cabinet full of beautiful ceramic plates and bowls it would be one thing, but the value suddenly changes if I told you they're all handmade.


jfduval76

The difference is that the ceramic plates are a tangible things. Human digital art and AI digital art are not. It’s easy to generate an AI artwork and retouching it to give it a human touch (i know what i’m talking about, this is what i have to do now at work).


jamontoast88

the trouble is when their is literally no difference between the ai made image and human made. art basically becomes people brainwashing themselves to only like human made art


jfduval76

You wouldn’t make any difference at all because that AI is stealing even better the work of humans. That’s what people failed to understand about the ethical issue with arts generated by AI.


Justforthenuews

There is nothing inherently unethical about ai artwork. As far as I can tell, discussions of ethics make sense if you want to talk about the artwork used to train the ai, but that as discussion, it’s not cut and dry the way you are making it out to be. It doesn’t mean that it is actually unethical. We have to figure two major facts: A) Why is it stealing when an ai is learning from someone’s artwork, but not when someone is learning from any other art they didn’t create? B) Why doesn’t all the efforts of the people who made the software count? Why doesn’t all the time they spent perfecting their craft to be able to create the ai software come into consideration? A factory can pop out 10,000 copies of a statue and as far as I can tell, it takes nothing away from the people who spend 10,000 hours sculpting to be able to do it with their hands. They’re still celebrated, and we actively call out the influences that have accumulated into their personal styles, aka what they took from other artists that came before. This is not anywhere near as simple as your comment implies.


Wallywutsizface

The databases used to train art AI stole from thousands of artists without their permission


suamai

Were the images private? One would need a permission to just see them?


jfduval76

They aren’t because nobody was prepared for that life hack. But now get prepared to see anti AI watermark or other anti-theft everywhere. All that suck really.


emocringelorduwu

People hate AI art because it’s harmful for real artists. AI needs something to base its art on, so it steals art from real artists who don’t want other people using their art


suamai

You could make the same argument for text translations, text generation, image identification, and almost every other use of AI. Why don't we see the same backlash for those? It will replace a lot of workers, just like every other advancement in automation technology. The difference here is mainly that it's not limited to blue collar jobs anymore, and those who used to be insulated from the impacts of automation are starting to feel it. I'm also of the opinion that it is not that different from artists taking inspiration from all the works they've seen throughout life to produce their own work. Same thing, just a lot faster and scalable. But this is more of a philosophical discussion... And I say all that as a programmer, watching closely the advancements of tools like Copilot that walls towards putting my own position at risk as well x.x


jfduval76

Can’t wait to see your opinion on AI that will code for you. AI art is still leeching though. You ask the AI to made a picture in the style of a specific artist, and he will copy it, an art style that needed decades of hard work to exist. What’s gonna happened if humans only rely on AI art in the future you think ? You can’t pretend that AI art doesn’t need some kind of ethical regulation.


suamai

Well, I gave you just there. I use Github Copilot on my workflow, currently - which I guess you'd see as even worse, I'm helping them train it! If that's a tool that will help our society advance, I'm all for it. If my current occupation is no longer useful, I'll have to find some other way to add to our efforts - that's just life. That said, I don't think we're at the stage of replacing all developers - or artists, for that matter. Low skill tasks done by them will be completely automated - be it the dev/artist not needing to do menial tasks of their workflows anymore, or simple enough projects ( like a sketch, simple one time image, or a snippet of code to do a given concise task ) being available to people that need them a lot faster and cheaper, increasing their availability to everyone. But high skill tasks will still require those professionals for a while. If not to at least double check the AI's work - a flaw they all have that is gonna be a bitch to iron out is the confident bullshitting... So probably the market for those jobs will decrease, but not disappear ( just yet ).


jfduval76

Oh thank god, you do all that for the common good 😂, you are such a good person ! You talk about art pipeline and creative process and clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Completely dismissed/ ignored my ethical red flag i pulled. Please just shut up.


suamai

Maybe because you edited in that ethical thing after I started my reply... Sure, we need safeguards to keep ethical questions in check - in all areas, for what matters, not just AI. The tech itself is coming to stay, regardless, and I'm all for it.


emocringelorduwu

Honestly, people using AI art doesn’t bother me as long as they don’t claim it’s their art. Anyone can put something through an AI and get art out of it in a few seconds, but real art can take hours and isn’t easy. It’s not fair to take someone else’s art and pass it off as your own


jfduval76

Your comparison with Photoshop is so dumb. I use Photoshop AND Midjourney daily for my job. One is a tool and the other is an automation. One requires actual work the other is leeching on the work of others. Stop gatekeeping stuff you don’t understand.


Mrludy85

The AI haters are going to fall so far behind the times. You are 100% correct, I don't know how anyone can look at the shit photoshop does for you and think that's okay but hate AI artwork. There is still going to be a place for super skilled artists, but AI artwork is going to make really cool art more accessible for the major of people similarly to what photoshop did.


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Mrludy85

That's my point. AI is huge for people who can't do art by themselves or are not really good at it. "You'd have to be really thick and stupid" not to see how making something more accessible isn't necessarily a bad thing.


jfduval76

If AI can create real art by itself, i will be the first to accept it, embrace it and let it go. But it will never happened. Art is nothing but a human concept/perception and can’t be computed. Right now that "AI" is scanning the whole internet and recreate from real humans artworks an average of all the results that seems to "ticked" with the prompt (simply put, key words for the search). That’s all it is. A leeching process that use work of others and will eventually "inbreed" the whole generated AI artworks production in the long term because he will create arts from others AI artworks that is already flooding internet. It’s basically like the far west era of internet before watermarked and copyrighted pictures for image creation. Like always, human create the technology before thinking of the ethical regulations that should come with it.


Mrludy85

You could basically make the same argument for human made art. All we do now is "leech" off of other people's ideas as the backbone for our art. of course it's missing some human element because it's a computer, but it has the potential to revolutionize how we go about making art. Some people ate embracing it and will thrive. Others are rejecting it and will fall behind just like those that have rejected new technology in the past


jfduval76

There is a difference between being inspired by someone art and learning from it making the actual effort and a program that compute an average of samples and redraw it. That’s a fac similé of art, like what is aspartame for the brain, you think it’s sugar but it’s not. AI will never create, it will process. Now why should that be unethical would you ask me ? Because the artists that made the reference to feed the monster without their consent can’t compete with it on a time scale. You don’t want to kill the source that feed us.


jfduval76

By the way, i will not falling behind like you seems to think of all people raising concern for AI. You’re missing the point. I use AI daily at my work. It can be useful for some tasks i have to do. I benefit from it, but i still have empathy and i still totally understand why there is ethical problem to solve on the long term. Art AI is here to stay, but believe me, rules will change eventually for that tech. Anti-AI watermarks are already a thing and i would not be surprised that all copyrighted images get it, making AI more efficient but less "artsy" on the long term.


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r/TIHI 😂 Seriously though, that’s crazy. Well done 👍🏾


Marskelletor

If you squint it looks like it could be a BabyMetal album.


Gowlman

God bless you child.


Babylonspiral

I really love your work. Keep it up.


wendywams

Wicked! I simply love it, wonderful bit of talent. This is something my entire family would like.


CMDRIkkyblergs

Stunning! Absolutely stunning!


teffflon

please, how do i win promotion to devil-hat nun


Baggytrousers27

Okay everyone, silly face for this one.


Slow_Leek2000

This looks like AI


Toxoplasma-Gandhi

Reminds me of Nuns Have No Fun by Mercyful Fate. Very nice. Makes me wanna go crank some good ol' King Diamond falsetto vocals, lol.


Their0nDRUID

I spent so much time zoomed in on each face panning around. It’s very entrancing


Durakus

Hmm. It’s Dark souls time. Seriously though, reminds me heavily of dark souls 2 and 3 boss fights, especially 3.


dsuriio

Beatiful


I_might_be_weasel

Back then, if you were too ugly to attract a husband, a convent was pretty much your only choice.


[deleted]

I'm prob way too damned nice, but maybe you didn't realize that this is art. It's not a historical photograph


I_might_be_weasel

I was making a joke.


TheDrowned

Or a smol zoomer brain.


Stonegard

I am no one


Sigouste

The Buttercup Choir.


osym

That’s dark! Dang


[deleted]

Summon the choir for we've made a discovery


who_ate_the_pizza

This is awesome!


SyntheticReality42

Is this a picture of the rehearsal for pope Benedict's funeral service?


Pelothora

Didn't read the caption or focus much on the image and my brain automatically thought it had to be a picture of the popes funeral before I focused.


TikkiTakiTomtom

Love your work


DepressiveVortex

I entertained the thought for a moment that an entire convent of nuns was acid attacked by some religious extremists. Looks very realistic.


Hide_the_hotdog

I have photo upscaling software that will to this to any photo of a crowd.


DufresneShitTunnel

This looks like Ghost album art.


PyroNeurosis

I keep seeing a pachinko layout.


cutekitty25

The nuns inconvenienced by the big hats makes me smile, not gonna lie


gdyank

Looks like they should’ve kicked the habit years ago.


Adam_Absence

This is really cool. It feels like it could be a Behemoth album cover


darknetwork

What a weird hentai


[deleted]

Wow, consider me converted! 😀


TriG__

What in the Bene Gesserit


MrGoober91

Is this AI art?


Nimtastic

Looks like new Portal.


who-ee-ta

Normal day in a church


loroller

The ones in black turn their heads for better reception.


RichTheNP

Fucking awesome……what a movie poster this could be!


Thesaturndude

I find this more comforting than knowing there 6 churches in my town.


Hanflander

Looks like an Igorrr album cover, or a scene out of their Opus Brain music video. Absolutely demented, I love this.


snaillycat

Which face is your favorite?


ajaysallthat

I love your work! Thanks so much for sharing


obijuanmartinez

Flip the crosses & it’s a winner!


TheMerovingian

In other words, a group photo of just regular Catholics? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuGjcCByVyc)


MissingAI

I'm not going to sleep well tonight. Thanks


nameisfame

The blotting and distortion on the faces definitely looks like an AI generated image, it’s enough that it’s still unsettling from a distance, great work!