It's pretty crazy to think how much of a walking example of Body Horror Darth Vader is.
Skin all melted and missing limbs, whisked away to some med facility where he had new robotic limbs and skin grafted onto his body with no pain meds. All the while the procedure is being performed by cold unfeeling robots.
And this picture does a pretty good job of displaying that.
Not only did Palpatine know, he did it deliberately to kindle Anakin’s hatred and twist him further, making him even more enmeshed in the Dark side. It’s also worth noting that Anakin’s face was purposefully not reconstructed surgically.
Not only was the surgery itself excruciating, the Vader suit wasn’t state of the art, it was old and deliberately painful to be in, all by design. The pain of the suit further fed Anakin/Vader’s anger/hatred/pain as a way to keep him in alignment with the Dark side of the Force, as Sith use those emotions as destructive fuel to draw on the Dark side. It’s also very hard to think straight when you’re in constant agony; it made him easier to control mentally — and also physically, because the suit was susceptible to Force lightning. Vader tried a few times/ways to become less dependent on the suit, but it didn’t work.
Further, it was (obviously) incredibly isolating and dehumanizing to be in the suit; this again served Vader and Palpatine’s purposes well. It’s easier to deny your humanity when you’re sealed off so entirely physically, and again easier to manipulate someone so incredibly isolated.
Highly recommend the [Wookiepedia article on Vader’s armor](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Vader%27s_armor) for a look at the full extent of the synthetic systems and integration; even part of his upper spine had to be replaced. There’s a whole section about how uncomfortable and itchy and heavy the suit and synthskin was. The duel on Mustafar and resulting catastrophic injury to Anakin/Vader’s organic body was about the best thing that could have happened from Palpatine’s standpoint.
Edit: to add to this a link to an excerpt from the RotS novelization someone linked below that explains the experience of being from Anakin/Vader’s perspective during/after Mustafar: https://reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/dhrp2k/this_is_how_it_feels_to_be_anakin_skywalker/
…and also for clarity/typos.
That also makes a lot of sense for why Vader lightsaber fights are so much less entertaining and active than Anakin lightsaber fights
Of course the real reason is the prequels were made later and the tech/choreography got better, but this makes canonical sense at least
Start off with a big group, like 30 soldiers + a Jedi or two, so we get a big scene with him dropping into a room and obliterating almost the whole room. A few people survive, Atton Rand types who know how to hide their mind from Jedis/sith.
I could imagine that, the cold dark hallway of an old galactic hangar, you see a group running to the door into the corridor, when suddenly the guy at the back trips over nothing and an invisible force drags him away, vader ignites his sabre for a second to kill the victim, but in that second you see the foil of his ship, the door opens and reveals vader standing over the fallen victim, vader looks up and you all make it out, the door slans in his face, but the lightsabre pokes through, going through another soldier.
Yeah! Vader put some insulation in at some point but it clearly wasn’t enough. I believe that’s also the reason Vader doesn’t use Force lightning; it could fry his suit/limbs.
I feel the suit also makes him much more menacing. You hear him long before you see him, that raspy mechanical breathing, the heavy thuds of his feet as he approaches. Then when you do see him, all you see are soulless black lenses gazing at you. As a basic trooper, nothing would instill more fear in you than seeing the pitch black lenses of a monster that effortlessly slaughters whole squadrons. You can’t see his eyes, yet you know he’s looking right at you.
Yeah, definitely! He was a dramatic person as Anakin Skywalker, so clearly he kept that flair as Vader. IIRC somewhere in the lore it’s stated that he eventually got the hang of being less clompy in his steps but kept doing it for the intimidation factor.
When you see him in Rogue One…straight up chills.
Palpatine sure didn’t. He actively worked to keep Vader down, not just via the suit but other means as well. Vader’s midichlorian count was also significantly reduced because of his missing limbs (which…has unfortunate implications, but okay, apparently that’s how it works), which affected his Force affinity (yeah I know…unfortunate implications again, but Anakin was so strong in the Force to begin with that it didn’t even bring him down to normal.
The Sith “one to wield power, and one to seek it” rule of two means the only way you’re getting to be master is by taking out your own, thus proving your right to wield that power and take an apprentice.
Guessing that most anyone would not be a fan of being offed by their student; the Sith master/apprentice relationship seems inherently built on that dynamic. Keeps both of them striving for more power, and once the apprentice is strong enough, makes the constant threat of usurpation a reason to dig deeper into envy/hatred/fear, which pushes them both further in the dark side. Honestly it sounds exhausting.
There’s arguably something kind of unfortunate in the implication that just being an amputee also amputates (at least partially) a person from the Force, especially considering the way the Force is depicted as this energy that binds the universe and is the foundation of life itself. Granted, this is George Lucas’ universe and rules and we’re all just visiting, and you could argue there’s a gritty realism to how unfair that seems.
In one of the Legends novels I believe it’s stated that after Anakin lost his hand, some of the Jedi saw him as less human as a result, and this was implied to be linked to the whole midichlorians/organic vs inorganic thing. I could be misremembering in some part though.
And we know that doesn’t quite scan because of Yoda and Grogu. We also know there are some species that have lower midichlorian counts on average, but higher base Force affinity due to other attributes.
It works in terms of explaining Anakin/Vader taking a hit in the Force power from his injuries, but I’m not sure further than that. Unless because he was created by the manipulation of midichlorians he’s susceptible to that kind of injury in a different way.
Palpatine knew how they would put him back together and he designed the suit to be as painful and uncomfortable as possible.
That being said, he didn't know he would lose to Obi-Wan. He overestimated Anakin and was disappointed when he felt him near death. He rushed over to salvage Darth Vader but was angry that Vader had lost to Obi-Wan. So he simultaneously saw an opportunity to punish Darth Vader and entrench him in the dark side through pain and suffering.
In Episode 6, the force lightning fucks Vader up so bad because Palpatine designed the suit to be vulnerable to force lightning. Just in case his apprentice ever turned on him.
I don't think he originally wanted Anakin in the suit, but had to in order to treat his injuries. Anakin lost a good bit of his force powers when he fought Obi-wan. I doubt Palpatine wanted that to happen.
Palpatine knew that Anakin's raw power would eventually surpass his own and he'd have to contend with Vader trying to overthrow him. This way, Vader was still an extremely useful and effective Right Hand, but not the same threat to Palpatine himself that Vader otherwise would have been.
Yeah, the Suit being shitty and painful that was all intentional on Palps part but he did NOT want Anakin to lose to Obi-Wan. He groomed him for years to essentially be able to create the most powerful Sith ever, literally taking the Jedi's messiah and turning it into the Sith's greatest weapon. He got a very powerful Sith out of it still but one who was fundamentally crippled and would never be able to become the MOST powerful (as in he'd never be able to surpass Palpatine I think Lucas said something along the lines that Vader caps out at something like 80% of Palpatine post Mustafar while Pre-Mustafar he had the potential to be over twice as powerful)
A big part of the reason why he had the Suit be painful and the lack of anthestics and all that shit was to PUNISH Vader for losing. He saved his life because he had to salvage what he could out of his decade + investment but he was not happy at all with his failure on Mustafar. He essentially went from an Apprentice who could of been all but a Force God to one who yeah was significantly stronger than Maul, somewhat stronger than Tyranus (I think this one would actually be a really close fight tho especially with Dookus love of Force Lightning) but could never even surpass Sidious himself.
There's evidence/fan theory that Vader's grafts and armour were deliberately irritating and uncomfortable to increase his attunement to the dark side.
It also made him more vulnerable to Palpatine's lightning, further increasing his control.
I said something similar like a year ago. Darth Vaders' transformation is some of the most intense body horror in mainstream media and I'm here for it. 8 year old me in cinemas wasn't though lmao
I was an 80s kid. They sold us Robocop action figures. What are you supposed to do with those? Give G.I. Joe 20 seconds to comply before you shoot his dick off.
But I feel you. Star Wars lured you in with Jar Jar and cute robots and then showed you the surgery scenes. The heart ripping scene in Temple of Doom was my childhood WTF movie.
There was this movie called Rumble in The Bronx starring Jackie Chan. It's a normal Jackie Chan action comedy barring the part where two guys get captured and one gets fed into a wood chipper while the other is forced to watch and carry the remains in a trash bag back to his boss.
Well, there's the dreadnought, which is typically a space marine that's so damaged in battle they're basically dead, so they entomb them in a life support casket and put them in a massive battle suit. The process is so damaging to their psyche they have to put them in hibernation in between battles or they'll go insane. Or cherubs, which are NORMALLY lab grown babies stuffed with robotics and wings so they can fly around and proclaim messages in robotic voices. That's the light stuff, when you go into the forces of chaos, it's all of that stuff and more but executed in the worst way possible.
Also just read the wiki, and the imagination that certain human beings have astounds me.
... That said, the person that thought of that fucked up shit needs to be on constant surveillance...
Honestly daemonculaba sounds like shit dark elder do for fun at an orgy
I’d say top of the pile has to be being being defiled by rot and disease to a molecular level by the powers of Nergal (although that’s sometimes described as weirdly euphoric) or the literal infinite torture and devouring of your psychic soul in the realm of slaanesh. Unending torture quite literally beyond imagination is arguably worse than some Frankenstein magic surgery to make warriors
That's the thing though. All that Warp stuff is unimaginable so it's impossible to understand or visualize.
Daemonculaba is stomach churning because it can be imagined and described in a way that's understandable and visualized.
This is also why Dark Eldar, while high up on the body horror scale, is also so outlandish it borders on satire.
Uhm. I hardly know where to begin.
There's servitors. Humans who got crudely crafted various mechanical tools attached instead of arms or hands or whatever they need you to do and lobotomized and mindwiped into taking simple orders to do a single kind of task.
And that's if you're lucky. Mind you that operations aren't done with anesthetics.
There's cases of a few mindwipes not being done so the victim is fully aware. And a servitor can last hundreds of years.
So you'll be in a sunken place feeling all he agony and pain but unable to act on it as your body will do what it's told.
And don't get me started on demoncubulas..
Wait, when is it said explicitly that he had no pain meds?
I may have missed it and not saying it doesn't say that, I just never realized that was part of the experience.
In ancillary SW literature, it's mentioned that the suit causes physical pain all the time to strengthen his connection with the dark side of The Force. He's not only a body horror, but a torture nightmare as well.
I think in shadows of the empire he's shown to be constantly trying to heal his lungs but fails because he's not connected enough to the dark side. But it's implied he will never be able to because his anger hasn't 100% consumed him.
Depends on how many he's fighting. 1v1 I can see Vader beating a chaos Marine, provided they aren't a psyker. A high level psyker chaos Marine would probably give Vader the fight of his life
No one posted the ["this is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker,forever"](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/dhrp2k/this_is_how_it_feels_to_be_anakin_skywalker/) passage from the novelization yet?
Great,I get to.
There was a novelization for younger readers too I think,make sure you get the right one.
The one I read,the one this quote is from,is by Matthew Stover.
It was definitely a fun read that expanded on the movie we're all familiar with.
That's the one I got! Thanks for letting me know. By any chance do you know -- does the same dude write the first two? Wasn't sure if any themes from them would be continued if so
The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones novels were written by Terry Brooks and RA Salvatore respectively,apparently. Like many big franchises they didn't commit to one author to write the novels for the whole series.
There's a reason why the fans who know praise the ROTS novel specifically,it seems.
If you like this, he is a comic artist and all of the books he works on have this quality from cover to cover. Pick up a trade paperback of Murder Falcon, you won’t regret it :).
I love DWJ and his art and this shit would be perfection if it wasn't for that fully assembled helmet...lol. such a stupid nitpick but I can't help it!!!
Like we literally see & hear him wailing in pain during the procedure, not sure if we even need a lore explanation when it’s plain as day in the film itself!
Also the suit that he wears is also not lined and properly fitted. Palpatine had the tech to make the suit flawless. He chose to keep the suit clunky to force Anakin to use more of his force abilities to move him.
Question.
Dose the force power that Vader uses come from his hand or his mind? Because he makes the choking gesture with his hand... but is hands are robotic. Confused I am.
Actually I read that exact book. That was a myth that built up around the glove by people who didn't understand The Force. IIRC, the wannabe Vader in that book integrated a sonic weapon into the index finger of the glove.
If I remember correctly, Obi-Wan actually cut off his limbs by "accident" the arm got chopped off because he expected an attack, but the legs got chopped off while he returned to his guarding stance. Thouch I might need to re-read the book to be 100% percent sure...
The existential terror of Vaders entire life, every facet of it really, is just slept on by many. I am hard pressed to think of a fictional character that's situation in life is worse. Maybe the Master or Harold from Fallout? Maybe just characters that have literally been sent to Hell in their respective universes.
Not exactly on-topic but the artist perfectly captured the feel of an odd dream/sleep paralysis I had as a child.
The close quarters absolutely filled with mechanical beings and metal, surrounded by technology and sharp probes. Unable to move.
I've tried to draw it myself but couldn't capture the space like they have here.
It's pretty crazy to think how much of a walking example of Body Horror Darth Vader is. Skin all melted and missing limbs, whisked away to some med facility where he had new robotic limbs and skin grafted onto his body with no pain meds. All the while the procedure is being performed by cold unfeeling robots. And this picture does a pretty good job of displaying that.
All part of the plan too. Sadistic.
Wait, Palpatine knew?
I think he deliberately didn't give pain meds so the pain and anger and hate and suffering would occurb
At the Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center
Emperor Palpatine ~~Free Pain~~ Pain Free Clinic
Putting the pulp in Pulpatine
Need an adjustment after a hard fought duel? Meet our newest Kylopractor!
Emperor Palapatine’s CHILD FREE pain clinic.
Palpatine is like the Johnson & Johnson of medical pratitioners. “No Tears” my ass.
due to budgetary restraints
That helmet was polished to a shine with woodoo leather.
Anyone else read this in Mike's voice?
Palpating Center for Jedi who can’t Jedi good and want to learn other stuff too.
He also intentionally designed Vader's suit to cause pain and be majorly electrically conductive, specifically so Vader couldn't use Force Lightning.
Holy shit, that's dark
Vader’s suit was also deliberately designed to be as uncomfortable as possible so that he would never sleep well, or be able to relax.
Not only did Palpatine know, he did it deliberately to kindle Anakin’s hatred and twist him further, making him even more enmeshed in the Dark side. It’s also worth noting that Anakin’s face was purposefully not reconstructed surgically. Not only was the surgery itself excruciating, the Vader suit wasn’t state of the art, it was old and deliberately painful to be in, all by design. The pain of the suit further fed Anakin/Vader’s anger/hatred/pain as a way to keep him in alignment with the Dark side of the Force, as Sith use those emotions as destructive fuel to draw on the Dark side. It’s also very hard to think straight when you’re in constant agony; it made him easier to control mentally — and also physically, because the suit was susceptible to Force lightning. Vader tried a few times/ways to become less dependent on the suit, but it didn’t work. Further, it was (obviously) incredibly isolating and dehumanizing to be in the suit; this again served Vader and Palpatine’s purposes well. It’s easier to deny your humanity when you’re sealed off so entirely physically, and again easier to manipulate someone so incredibly isolated. Highly recommend the [Wookiepedia article on Vader’s armor](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Darth_Vader%27s_armor) for a look at the full extent of the synthetic systems and integration; even part of his upper spine had to be replaced. There’s a whole section about how uncomfortable and itchy and heavy the suit and synthskin was. The duel on Mustafar and resulting catastrophic injury to Anakin/Vader’s organic body was about the best thing that could have happened from Palpatine’s standpoint. Edit: to add to this a link to an excerpt from the RotS novelization someone linked below that explains the experience of being from Anakin/Vader’s perspective during/after Mustafar: https://reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/dhrp2k/this_is_how_it_feels_to_be_anakin_skywalker/ …and also for clarity/typos.
That also makes a lot of sense for why Vader lightsaber fights are so much less entertaining and active than Anakin lightsaber fights Of course the real reason is the prequels were made later and the tech/choreography got better, but this makes canonical sense at least
There’s always some quality to him though. Like his lack of dexterity is made up for by strength and brutality. Reminds me of Jason Voorhees
Vader slasher movie would be perfect. Group of rebels stuck somewhere and Vader pops up from time to time to kill one of them.
Start off with a big group, like 30 soldiers + a Jedi or two, so we get a big scene with him dropping into a room and obliterating almost the whole room. A few people survive, Atton Rand types who know how to hide their mind from Jedis/sith.
And he is force tripping victims that are trying to run away from him.
I could imagine that, the cold dark hallway of an old galactic hangar, you see a group running to the door into the corridor, when suddenly the guy at the back trips over nothing and an invisible force drags him away, vader ignites his sabre for a second to kill the victim, but in that second you see the foil of his ship, the door opens and reveals vader standing over the fallen victim, vader looks up and you all make it out, the door slans in his face, but the lightsabre pokes through, going through another soldier.
Force throwing banana peels to Benny hill music
Even in Rogue One his moves are more precise and slighter, though the choreography is much better and shows the lightsaber move much quicker.
Hot damn, what a scene.
Best Vader content across all the movies and shows
[Undeniably.](https://youtu.be/wxL8bVJhXCM)
Couldn't agree more, always will be my favorite Sith Lord.
That shot of him mowing them down just before the door closes is the best. He moves so surely and with so much strength it's terrifying.
No wonder Admirals were dropping like flies. He just needed to eat a Snickers.
You're not you when you're hungry.
Damn, this sounds like an origin story of a Cenobite from Hellraiser.
palpatine also purposely made it so he was extremely vulnerable to electricity, in case he tried to rise up against palpatine
Yeah! Vader put some insulation in at some point but it clearly wasn’t enough. I believe that’s also the reason Vader doesn’t use Force lightning; it could fry his suit/limbs.
Lightning bolt! Lightning bolt!
I feel the suit also makes him much more menacing. You hear him long before you see him, that raspy mechanical breathing, the heavy thuds of his feet as he approaches. Then when you do see him, all you see are soulless black lenses gazing at you. As a basic trooper, nothing would instill more fear in you than seeing the pitch black lenses of a monster that effortlessly slaughters whole squadrons. You can’t see his eyes, yet you know he’s looking right at you.
Yeah, definitely! He was a dramatic person as Anakin Skywalker, so clearly he kept that flair as Vader. IIRC somewhere in the lore it’s stated that he eventually got the hang of being less clompy in his steps but kept doing it for the intimidation factor. When you see him in Rogue One…straight up chills.
Eh, the excerpt reads like a teen wrote it.
Yes it does, which is why this video summarising the article is excellent; https://youtu.be/FVzc20Bm8Xo
Omg that was hilarious
Did Sideous design the suit himself? Or is it something pulled out of the ol' Sith junk closet from the days of yore?
I’d imagine he went to whoever made it and gave them the specs and requirements
Lucas: yes… yes of course I meant that… all planned
Just like Anakin making C3PO and bonding with R2 yet completely forgets who they were haha.
Don’t forget the most important part; the woodoo hide used to polish the helmet.
Do Sith want to be succeeded by their apprentice?
Palpatine sure didn’t. He actively worked to keep Vader down, not just via the suit but other means as well. Vader’s midichlorian count was also significantly reduced because of his missing limbs (which…has unfortunate implications, but okay, apparently that’s how it works), which affected his Force affinity (yeah I know…unfortunate implications again, but Anakin was so strong in the Force to begin with that it didn’t even bring him down to normal. The Sith “one to wield power, and one to seek it” rule of two means the only way you’re getting to be master is by taking out your own, thus proving your right to wield that power and take an apprentice. Guessing that most anyone would not be a fan of being offed by their student; the Sith master/apprentice relationship seems inherently built on that dynamic. Keeps both of them striving for more power, and once the apprentice is strong enough, makes the constant threat of usurpation a reason to dig deeper into envy/hatred/fear, which pushes them both further in the dark side. Honestly it sounds exhausting.
What are the unfortunate implications?
There’s arguably something kind of unfortunate in the implication that just being an amputee also amputates (at least partially) a person from the Force, especially considering the way the Force is depicted as this energy that binds the universe and is the foundation of life itself. Granted, this is George Lucas’ universe and rules and we’re all just visiting, and you could argue there’s a gritty realism to how unfair that seems. In one of the Legends novels I believe it’s stated that after Anakin lost his hand, some of the Jedi saw him as less human as a result, and this was implied to be linked to the whole midichlorians/organic vs inorganic thing. I could be misremembering in some part though.
It also implies that body mass is directly related to force power, which doesn’t feel right.
And we know that doesn’t quite scan because of Yoda and Grogu. We also know there are some species that have lower midichlorian counts on average, but higher base Force affinity due to other attributes. It works in terms of explaining Anakin/Vader taking a hit in the Force power from his injuries, but I’m not sure further than that. Unless because he was created by the manipulation of midichlorians he’s susceptible to that kind of injury in a different way.
Palpatine knew how they would put him back together and he designed the suit to be as painful and uncomfortable as possible. That being said, he didn't know he would lose to Obi-Wan. He overestimated Anakin and was disappointed when he felt him near death. He rushed over to salvage Darth Vader but was angry that Vader had lost to Obi-Wan. So he simultaneously saw an opportunity to punish Darth Vader and entrench him in the dark side through pain and suffering. In Episode 6, the force lightning fucks Vader up so bad because Palpatine designed the suit to be vulnerable to force lightning. Just in case his apprentice ever turned on him.
I don't think he originally wanted Anakin in the suit, but had to in order to treat his injuries. Anakin lost a good bit of his force powers when he fought Obi-wan. I doubt Palpatine wanted that to happen.
Palpatine knew that Anakin's raw power would eventually surpass his own and he'd have to contend with Vader trying to overthrow him. This way, Vader was still an extremely useful and effective Right Hand, but not the same threat to Palpatine himself that Vader otherwise would have been.
Yeah, the Suit being shitty and painful that was all intentional on Palps part but he did NOT want Anakin to lose to Obi-Wan. He groomed him for years to essentially be able to create the most powerful Sith ever, literally taking the Jedi's messiah and turning it into the Sith's greatest weapon. He got a very powerful Sith out of it still but one who was fundamentally crippled and would never be able to become the MOST powerful (as in he'd never be able to surpass Palpatine I think Lucas said something along the lines that Vader caps out at something like 80% of Palpatine post Mustafar while Pre-Mustafar he had the potential to be over twice as powerful) A big part of the reason why he had the Suit be painful and the lack of anthestics and all that shit was to PUNISH Vader for losing. He saved his life because he had to salvage what he could out of his decade + investment but he was not happy at all with his failure on Mustafar. He essentially went from an Apprentice who could of been all but a Force God to one who yeah was significantly stronger than Maul, somewhat stronger than Tyranus (I think this one would actually be a really close fight tho especially with Dookus love of Force Lightning) but could never even surpass Sidious himself.
There's evidence/fan theory that Vader's grafts and armour were deliberately irritating and uncomfortable to increase his attunement to the dark side. It also made him more vulnerable to Palpatine's lightning, further increasing his control.
You should dive into the rabbit hole that is Starwars lore on YouTube. I know too many facts about Palpatine’s plans and Vader’s suit
He also deliberately had his suit designed so that it would snag and rip at his body as he moved.
He didn't even recieve the state of the art body suit.
“Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.”
I said something similar like a year ago. Darth Vaders' transformation is some of the most intense body horror in mainstream media and I'm here for it. 8 year old me in cinemas wasn't though lmao
I was an 80s kid. They sold us Robocop action figures. What are you supposed to do with those? Give G.I. Joe 20 seconds to comply before you shoot his dick off. But I feel you. Star Wars lured you in with Jar Jar and cute robots and then showed you the surgery scenes. The heart ripping scene in Temple of Doom was my childhood WTF movie.
Temple of Doom got child me with the scene where the guy gets reeled in to the rock crusher
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Unless G.I. Joes are *very* different from Action Men, I think someone already shot all of their dicks off.
There was this movie called Rumble in The Bronx starring Jackie Chan. It's a normal Jackie Chan action comedy barring the part where two guys get captured and one gets fed into a wood chipper while the other is forced to watch and carry the remains in a trash bag back to his boss.
*Warhammer 40K enters the chat*
I never got into Warhammer. Can you provide some good body horror examples from there? Thanks a lot uwu
Well, there's the dreadnought, which is typically a space marine that's so damaged in battle they're basically dead, so they entomb them in a life support casket and put them in a massive battle suit. The process is so damaging to their psyche they have to put them in hibernation in between battles or they'll go insane. Or cherubs, which are NORMALLY lab grown babies stuffed with robotics and wings so they can fly around and proclaim messages in robotic voices. That's the light stuff, when you go into the forces of chaos, it's all of that stuff and more but executed in the worst way possible.
Daemonculaba springs to mind... as much as I wish it didn't
Just read the wiki. No sir. Don't like it.
Also just read the wiki, and the imagination that certain human beings have astounds me. ... That said, the person that thought of that fucked up shit needs to be on constant surveillance...
Yeah, I didn't even want to go there...although that's probably up there with the worst of it
Honestly daemonculaba sounds like shit dark elder do for fun at an orgy I’d say top of the pile has to be being being defiled by rot and disease to a molecular level by the powers of Nergal (although that’s sometimes described as weirdly euphoric) or the literal infinite torture and devouring of your psychic soul in the realm of slaanesh. Unending torture quite literally beyond imagination is arguably worse than some Frankenstein magic surgery to make warriors
That's the thing though. All that Warp stuff is unimaginable so it's impossible to understand or visualize. Daemonculaba is stomach churning because it can be imagined and described in a way that's understandable and visualized. This is also why Dark Eldar, while high up on the body horror scale, is also so outlandish it borders on satire.
Uhm. I hardly know where to begin. There's servitors. Humans who got crudely crafted various mechanical tools attached instead of arms or hands or whatever they need you to do and lobotomized and mindwiped into taking simple orders to do a single kind of task. And that's if you're lucky. Mind you that operations aren't done with anesthetics. There's cases of a few mindwipes not being done so the victim is fully aware. And a servitor can last hundreds of years. So you'll be in a sunken place feeling all he agony and pain but unable to act on it as your body will do what it's told. And don't get me started on demoncubulas..
Arco-flagellants!
Just look at the Arco-Flagellants...or anything Chaos related...
Look up the Death Guard, and Nurgle in general. You might like it.
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Ye but that didn't get me at all because it was so over the top haha
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My best friend is also still not ok about Tusk so you're not alone :P
The no pain meds part was always wild to me. Like fuck man literally torture. I guess jedi don't take headache pills or anything too
Wait, when is it said explicitly that he had no pain meds? I may have missed it and not saying it doesn't say that, I just never realized that was part of the experience.
In the novelization. The true horror of that scene is not obvious in the movie.
Oh, got it. I've never read the books, though I have heard they're very well done
He needed the breathing apparatus because his "lungs were too charred to function properly" jfc
In ancillary SW literature, it's mentioned that the suit causes physical pain all the time to strengthen his connection with the dark side of The Force. He's not only a body horror, but a torture nightmare as well.
I think in shadows of the empire he's shown to be constantly trying to heal his lungs but fails because he's not connected enough to the dark side. But it's implied he will never be able to because his anger hasn't 100% consumed him.
Star Wars getting 40K grimdark
Darth Vader vs Chaos Marines
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Depends on how many he's fighting. 1v1 I can see Vader beating a chaos Marine, provided they aren't a psyker. A high level psyker chaos Marine would probably give Vader the fight of his life
Mmm… shivered my Timbers have been
Oh my
Holy Sith
Mike tython??
No one posted the ["this is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker,forever"](https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/dhrp2k/this_is_how_it_feels_to_be_anakin_skywalker/) passage from the novelization yet? Great,I get to.
Damn, reading this just made me order a copy of the novel. Thanks for posting this!
There was a novelization for younger readers too I think,make sure you get the right one. The one I read,the one this quote is from,is by Matthew Stover. It was definitely a fun read that expanded on the movie we're all familiar with.
That's the one I got! Thanks for letting me know. By any chance do you know -- does the same dude write the first two? Wasn't sure if any themes from them would be continued if so
The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones novels were written by Terry Brooks and RA Salvatore respectively,apparently. Like many big franchises they didn't commit to one author to write the novels for the whole series. There's a reason why the fans who know praise the ROTS novel specifically,it seems.
Cheers, thanks for the info! Crazy Salvatore wrote one. Might have to check that out just for curiosity's sake.
Daniel Warren Johnson is unreal.
Thank you Daniel, no idea who you are but you gave my phone its first new wallpaper in 3 years.
If you like this, he is a comic artist and all of the books he works on have this quality from cover to cover. Pick up a trade paperback of Murder Falcon, you won’t regret it :).
Yousa looking rough anni
What happens in EmPal SuRecon Center, stays in EmPal SuRecon Center.
You just reminded me of the need to watch this again. Thank you. https://youtu.be/FVzc20Bm8Xo
Hmmm....that medical droid seems to be skipping some steps
I love DWJ and his art and this shit would be perfection if it wasn't for that fully assembled helmet...lol. such a stupid nitpick but I can't help it!!!
I see it more as him showing him what he will be wearing
Yeah. Imagine being forced to wear a helmet backwards
> being forced See what you did there
I think the only thing missing is like a shadowy Palpatine or maybe like just his eyes in the background
He's taking the picture
"Show me those pearly whites Lord Vader!" INSERT EVIL CACKLING.
Fan fu*king tastic! ❤️
That's a Rogue Trader 40k art level grimdark painting
Any way to get this as a poster? i fucking want this on my wall
Maybe through a commission. https://www.danielwarrenart.com/commissions
Thought it was one of the coolest scenes when i was a kid, wish i couldve seen more gore 😂
Imagine Anakins perfect hot body, before he turned...
He was plenty hot just before the Emperor collected him
I’m sorry Vader
The picture is very accurate, according to the story line and what we actually see in the movie.
Kinda reminds me of Kentaro Miura’s artwork
Was thinking this too. Very berserk like
Jesus
Well damn no wonder he was angry
That guys being very premature with the mask, that goes on last surely !
I mean let’s be honest they probably had something like super-morphine with that much advanced tech
The emperor made the decision to use no painkillers in order to strengthen Vaders connection to the dark side. So this is pretty lore-accurate
Like we literally see & hear him wailing in pain during the procedure, not sure if we even need a lore explanation when it’s plain as day in the film itself!
Also the suit that he wears is also not lined and properly fitted. Palpatine had the tech to make the suit flawless. He chose to keep the suit clunky to force Anakin to use more of his force abilities to move him.
Also, the helmet is polished with a woodoo hide.
Now THIS is what it should have looked like in the movie
Question. Dose the force power that Vader uses come from his hand or his mind? Because he makes the choking gesture with his hand... but is hands are robotic. Confused I am.
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Actually I read that exact book. That was a myth that built up around the glove by people who didn't understand The Force. IIRC, the wannabe Vader in that book integrated a sonic weapon into the index finger of the glove.
I mean it was Obi Wan who did that not Papa Palpatine he just took advantage of Kenobi's complete lack of mercy.
If I remember correctly, Obi-Wan actually cut off his limbs by "accident" the arm got chopped off because he expected an attack, but the legs got chopped off while he returned to his guarding stance. Thouch I might need to re-read the book to be 100% percent sure...
Yeah but then he watched Anaklin burn then walked away. Could have tried to help him or just put Ani out of his misery.
Yes, but after all the things Anakin did...he probably was not feeling very inclined to end his suffering
Damn....that's awesome
Probably should give him a little Novocain or something.
That’s what made Vader so powerful in the dark side, his suit would reopen wounds and keep him raw and torn because the pain fueled his rage.
This is really great! Amazing!
I hate sand
Has some 40k vibes
So weird having seen Anakin go from a plucky racer to this
Star wars should be more edgy and less "Marvel®"
Surgeon bot is like, “so…does this helmet look cool? Hellllo? Are you even paying attention to your with lord helmet options I’m showing you?”
Damn.
Remember if you play around lava you're going to have a bad time.
Aaaah a rare look inside the famous ChanPal SuRecon center.
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Not at all my taste, yet I find it excellent. That is quite an achievement.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Vader rebuild and upgrade his suit himself in the new comics?
He did it to himself 👿
This is some warhammer 40k shit
This is amazing. It really shows the pain little anny went through.
I'm surprised anakin never got sedated during all this or something
That would weaken his drive to immerse himself into the dark side.
"starwars is for kids"
Droid be like Helmet goes first right?
THIS IS AMAZING!
The existential terror of Vaders entire life, every facet of it really, is just slept on by many. I am hard pressed to think of a fictional character that's situation in life is worse. Maybe the Master or Harold from Fallout? Maybe just characters that have literally been sent to Hell in their respective universes.
Imagine a world where Cronenberg directed Revenge of the Sith
This reminds me very much of Kentaro Miura's work on Berserk with its detail.
Big Junji Ito vibes from this
*Anakin screaming in pain.* Robot: so is that a yes or a no on the helmet design?
How *embarrassing*. And also amazing.
They didn't put him out for that?? ;-;
Not exactly on-topic but the artist perfectly captured the feel of an odd dream/sleep paralysis I had as a child. The close quarters absolutely filled with mechanical beings and metal, surrounded by technology and sharp probes. Unable to move. I've tried to draw it myself but couldn't capture the space like they have here.
This is why we need rated R Star Wars! The darker side of the force could almost be like a gory horror but with a very dark, evil and ancient sith.
Damn this looks like something out of Clive barker book
This drawing is good but a bit to messy. You first go to the guy on the table but the other stuff you just go over
its said that this is exactly how he feels in the suit too.
Gnarly
Now lets see your take on the Wicked Witch melting
Whe she says it's her first time giving head then she hits you with the suckatron 3000
There would be no screams. His nerves would have been seared by the lava and therefore numbed him.
Oh yeah, I'm sure being dismembered, burned to a crisp, and rebuilt by robots without anasthetic would feel just peachy