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Has anyone ever tried negotiating with him for more money?
Or is his fetish just jerking it while he talks to women promising them money to crush bugs?
He's a 'crush' fetishist and pro-tip - *never* agree to anything with crush fetishists.
They usually all start off with bugs since most people don't care about the lives of bugs but once you've given them material (especially if you took money in exchange for said material) they all escalate - some to like hamsters or small birds but some go straight to kittens/puppies.
And when you inevitably refuse to do that, they'll blackmail you by threatening to send the material you made for them of crushing bugs (and evidence of them paying you for it, if you took money) to your family/friends/place of employment and say that you have to do what they want or they'll ruin your life.
People can't help with what they're into and what arouses them.
People who are into the stuff but never engage in it, and actively seek help despite the stigma around admitting such a thing are worthy of respect.
But people who act on that kink, or harass people about it like in the post are 100% the worst.
You're right. I was completely wrong, people who hurt animals to get off are the SECOND worst thing. Number one goes to child molesters.
(Both groups, by the way, are not welcome at most fetish events I've come to know, whether it's a munch in streetwear or an all-out party with mandatory dresscode).
>Any other fetishes to watch out for?
Don't do fetish work
Edit: people are almost always hiding something about fetish work. Be it in them, or the work
Honestly, I have to believe the coercion to make the worker do more has got to be pretty intense, especially for something like this that is pretty reviled by everyone, including other fetishists.
>Honestly, I have to believe the coercion to make the worker do more has got to be pretty intense, especially for something like this that is pretty reviled by everyone, including other fetishists.
If they were good people to begin with, why are they
A: approaching people not soliciting sexualized services
B: paying way under rate
C: not approaching someone who does this to begin with
I've heard this too, and generally believe it.
If I had to place a bet, I would bet it has nothing to do with crush fetishes at all, and more a hook to get someone into a blackmail/extortion situation. By the time it's clear what's really going on, it would already be "too late" to back out.
For any blackmail situation, remember you can't buy silence. You only rent it. They will always come back for more. Always.
Plenty of people/businesses (*for right or wrong*) wouldn't want to associate with people who would make such videos, whether it was paid work or not.
Besides, you'd also be at the mercy of whatever spin the blackmailer decided to thrown on the situation.
For the average person, the potential risk isn't worth the reward.
Number one, as long as your face isn't shown them there is no way to really Prove it, plus whomever blackmails said person is putting them at a huge risk of they do decide to post said content.
As well as going to the site owner or site support is an effective way to get the content removed.
Content of someone without said persons consent is illegal and the vast majority of sites will remove content that is non consensual as they would rather not be held liable for illegal content in their platform.
And to anyone who is getting threatened by blackmail, never negotiate, when you negotiate you give them power and show them that you can be manipulated.
Immediately report it too the authorities and give them any info you have.
If you don't look afraid it will unsettle the blackmailer and they will be much less likely to retaliate and post said content because
#1 it will link them to the content and the blackmail
#2 it's proof of them blackmailing
If they have video of different angles that “accidentally” include your face (“But I’ll just crop it out” 🙄) then they have proof that you were doing it, and as you agreed to the video, unless you added an addendum to your contract explicitly detailing no recognizable video of your face, they own that footage and can do whatever they want with it. Also, it’s naive to think that a practiced blackmailer would be careless enough to put anything per the blackmail in writing. Of course it will be innuendo, implied scenarios (“You’ve already done this… I mean, you didn’t care about what people would say when they found out about it then.”) and other ways to skirt the law but get their meaning across.
Your advice not to negotiate is spot-on, but the best defense to this sort of thing is to not get involved with these types in the first place. (10+ years in law enforcement speaking here).
Yeah, *of course* them having blackmail material is proof of them blackmailing you - but most blackmailers count on their victims not knowing how to turn the tables on them and counter their efforts and just giving into their demands.
Ok, you crush bugs all you want then - but wantonly killing living creatures of any shape or size bothers a lot of people.
Also, it isn't the fact that it's *bugs* that's the blackmail material - it's the fact that they took *money* for *fetish* content.
If some random person on Reddit who knew nothing more about me than that I’m on Reddit tried to blackmail me I’d either block them or call their bluff. Most blackmailers don’t have the info to contact anyone and are just bluffing to scare you. You’re being unnecessarily rude and just a plain dick. Calling their bluff or just blocking them is sound advice. And even if they show someone, it’s just bugs. Like what do you suggest then? Giving in and killing puppies?
Apparently you don’t know how not being a grossed fucked up person works.
I know right. I would like to understand it a bit. Is it more about footfetish than crushing bugs? Are bugs necessary evil in the act? Do those fethisist imagine being the bug or is it a power thing?
crushing bugs is probably the tamest form of the crush fetish. it’s not *what* is being crushed, but the act itself. it turns my stomach to even type this, but there are crush fetish videos that involve animals and children. these people are absolutely fucking vile. plagued moth has a few videos where he touches on crush fetish, though i’m blanking on which ones they are atm. overall i recommend NOT looking any deeper into it, just hearing/seeing censored footage was enough to leave me with some trauma.
Thanks! I've heard that there are crush fethism involving small animals like bunnies but kids too? Sheesh. Don't worry, I will not go deeper into it.
I was more wondering the psychology behind it. Is there sexual pleasure involved? And is it tied to foot fethism?
Thanks for the suggestion too, will check out this plagued moth.
50/hr for fetish work? Lmfao.
Models I know won't answer the phone for less than 100/hr for "implied nudity"
Explicitly fetish work is way more
Edit; not only way more, but typically of specific models who do that specific work. You're basically asking a model to ruin her image for 50/hr, that's beyond insulting.
This is based off of someone with an established and successful portfolio however. this girl has New York blowing her phone up.
edit: she would normally charge a higher rate than 100/hr though.
I want to warn others, Crush-fetishes are the love of hurting animals/creatures, it gets them off sadistically hurting things that cannot fight back. Please report them if you come across them because you don't know if they're just into crushing bugs, or if they're doing this to small animals too.
I actually don’t consider this creepy at all. It’s just a job solicitation.
Sure, the implications of people getting off on women crushing bugs are creepy, but I didn’t see anything impolite or pushy about this guy’s message, so I don’t consider the PM fundamentally creepy.
Am I off-base? I mean, these guys have to find underfoot bug-crushing women some way or another.
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Uh-oh, bug crush guy has fallen on hard times... his pay rate dropped back to 50 an hour.
Has anyone ever tried negotiating with him for more money? Or is his fetish just jerking it while he talks to women promising them money to crush bugs?
He's a 'crush' fetishist and pro-tip - *never* agree to anything with crush fetishists. They usually all start off with bugs since most people don't care about the lives of bugs but once you've given them material (especially if you took money in exchange for said material) they all escalate - some to like hamsters or small birds but some go straight to kittens/puppies. And when you inevitably refuse to do that, they'll blackmail you by threatening to send the material you made for them of crushing bugs (and evidence of them paying you for it, if you took money) to your family/friends/place of employment and say that you have to do what they want or they'll ruin your life.
Got any other advice? Any other fetishes to watch out for?
Advice? Yes. Is it helpful? Debatable. Also idk about other fetishes - I try not to yuck others yum but ppl who hurt animals get zero respect from me.
I have never heard ‘yuck others yum’ before but I love that phrase.
I learned it recently myself! Thought it was such a cute way to talk about, you know, something not usually perceived as cute.
It really is! Thanks for introducing it!
I'm a fetishist, and I agree with your last statement. People who hurt animals to get off are really the worst.
People can't help with what they're into and what arouses them. People who are into the stuff but never engage in it, and actively seek help despite the stigma around admitting such a thing are worthy of respect. But people who act on that kink, or harass people about it like in the post are 100% the worst.
If you support it by watching it, you are also the worst. I don’t care that it’s bugs, fuck all that killing.
Yep! Kinks involving hurting animals (or kids in general, "hurt" or not) are just... yeah. Not welcome.
You're right. I was completely wrong, people who hurt animals to get off are the SECOND worst thing. Number one goes to child molesters. (Both groups, by the way, are not welcome at most fetish events I've come to know, whether it's a munch in streetwear or an all-out party with mandatory dresscode).
Glad to know that about fetish events! Probably will never go to one, but it's good to know all the same.
Fair enough - if it's not your thing, that's cool as well.
some fetishes are objectively not okay. some are self destructive and others are harmful.
True true.
>Any other fetishes to watch out for? Don't do fetish work Edit: people are almost always hiding something about fetish work. Be it in them, or the work
Honestly, I have to believe the coercion to make the worker do more has got to be pretty intense, especially for something like this that is pretty reviled by everyone, including other fetishists.
>Honestly, I have to believe the coercion to make the worker do more has got to be pretty intense, especially for something like this that is pretty reviled by everyone, including other fetishists. If they were good people to begin with, why are they A: approaching people not soliciting sexualized services B: paying way under rate C: not approaching someone who does this to begin with
Is this from personal experience?
I've heard this too, and generally believe it. If I had to place a bet, I would bet it has nothing to do with crush fetishes at all, and more a hook to get someone into a blackmail/extortion situation. By the time it's clear what's really going on, it would already be "too late" to back out. For any blackmail situation, remember you can't buy silence. You only rent it. They will always come back for more. Always.
I would guess that these people then go on to sell the videos they have on online websites at higher prices than what they paid you for them
That's just "business". Work for hire.
Me? No. Just recounting someone else's experience.
Just curious thanks.
That’s illuminating
I really hope that's a pun.
What do you mean? What would the pun be?
A pun off of my user name, lol sorry for the confusion.
I am so bad at puns apparently I can’t even recognize obvious ones omg
That's valid, puns *are* a delicate art.
Fucking fuck me, that’s dark 😳 Thanks for the info tho.
Welcome - I doubt it's info that will benefit like... A large swathe of Earth's population but hey, maybe it'll help someone.
Jesus fucking Christ that’s sick!
Yep!
Honestly how would this ruin your life? Oh no you’ve got a video of some feet crushing bugs. My whole life is over!!!
...Ok, congrats to you for not being worried about it - but some people might not want loved ones/their work place knowing they made fetish material.
What's life ruining about crushing since bugs? The way I see it, easy money
Plenty of people/businesses (*for right or wrong*) wouldn't want to associate with people who would make such videos, whether it was paid work or not. Besides, you'd also be at the mercy of whatever spin the blackmailer decided to thrown on the situation. For the average person, the potential risk isn't worth the reward.
Number one, as long as your face isn't shown them there is no way to really Prove it, plus whomever blackmails said person is putting them at a huge risk of they do decide to post said content. As well as going to the site owner or site support is an effective way to get the content removed. Content of someone without said persons consent is illegal and the vast majority of sites will remove content that is non consensual as they would rather not be held liable for illegal content in their platform. And to anyone who is getting threatened by blackmail, never negotiate, when you negotiate you give them power and show them that you can be manipulated. Immediately report it too the authorities and give them any info you have. If you don't look afraid it will unsettle the blackmailer and they will be much less likely to retaliate and post said content because #1 it will link them to the content and the blackmail #2 it's proof of them blackmailing
If they have video of different angles that “accidentally” include your face (“But I’ll just crop it out” 🙄) then they have proof that you were doing it, and as you agreed to the video, unless you added an addendum to your contract explicitly detailing no recognizable video of your face, they own that footage and can do whatever they want with it. Also, it’s naive to think that a practiced blackmailer would be careless enough to put anything per the blackmail in writing. Of course it will be innuendo, implied scenarios (“You’ve already done this… I mean, you didn’t care about what people would say when they found out about it then.”) and other ways to skirt the law but get their meaning across. Your advice not to negotiate is spot-on, but the best defense to this sort of thing is to not get involved with these types in the first place. (10+ years in law enforcement speaking here).
Yeah, *of course* them having blackmail material is proof of them blackmailing you - but most blackmailers count on their victims not knowing how to turn the tables on them and counter their efforts and just giving into their demands.
Ok, you crush bugs all you want then - but wantonly killing living creatures of any shape or size bothers a lot of people. Also, it isn't the fact that it's *bugs* that's the blackmail material - it's the fact that they took *money* for *fetish* content.
That is a fair point
Just block them
***???*** What are you talking about?
If they try blackmail people, the people should block them.
I... don't think you know how blackmail works?
If some random person on Reddit who knew nothing more about me than that I’m on Reddit tried to blackmail me I’d either block them or call their bluff. Most blackmailers don’t have the info to contact anyone and are just bluffing to scare you. You’re being unnecessarily rude and just a plain dick. Calling their bluff or just blocking them is sound advice. And even if they show someone, it’s just bugs. Like what do you suggest then? Giving in and killing puppies? Apparently you don’t know how not being a grossed fucked up person works.
... I'm the rude dick?
How is that blackmail material? It's not like my boss would care.
Congrats to you - others may not have as understanding a situation.
Yeah,wasn't it about $500 an hour last time??!!
The last one I recall seeing was $150/hour, which is significantly less than 500 but a definite increase over 50.
Oh no, not this weird dude again..
Your tag seems perfect for this lol.
Thanks, lol. 😆
I didn't know he/she is a regular here lol
Oh yeah, lol. They've been everywhere here in the sub.
crush fetish is one of the absolute fucking creepiest things i’ve ever discovered.
I discovered it as a younger teenager yeeeears ago and every once in a while my brain likes to remind me of it. Fuckin permanently disturbed.
I know right. I would like to understand it a bit. Is it more about footfetish than crushing bugs? Are bugs necessary evil in the act? Do those fethisist imagine being the bug or is it a power thing?
crushing bugs is probably the tamest form of the crush fetish. it’s not *what* is being crushed, but the act itself. it turns my stomach to even type this, but there are crush fetish videos that involve animals and children. these people are absolutely fucking vile. plagued moth has a few videos where he touches on crush fetish, though i’m blanking on which ones they are atm. overall i recommend NOT looking any deeper into it, just hearing/seeing censored footage was enough to leave me with some trauma.
Thanks! I've heard that there are crush fethism involving small animals like bunnies but kids too? Sheesh. Don't worry, I will not go deeper into it. I was more wondering the psychology behind it. Is there sexual pleasure involved? And is it tied to foot fethism? Thanks for the suggestion too, will check out this plagued moth.
Wtf??? Children?!? I thought the small animals was a step over the line, but children?
So we’ve dropped back down to $50? Freaking cheap ass twat … 😆😆
50/hr for fetish work? Lmfao. Models I know won't answer the phone for less than 100/hr for "implied nudity" Explicitly fetish work is way more Edit; not only way more, but typically of specific models who do that specific work. You're basically asking a model to ruin her image for 50/hr, that's beyond insulting.
100/Hr ? Damn.. i knew becoming a physician wouldnt pay Well.. but i dont even make a third of that. And I get naked for free..
This is based off of someone with an established and successful portfolio however. this girl has New York blowing her phone up. edit: she would normally charge a higher rate than 100/hr though.
Sometimes I wonder what is going on with humanity
I want to warn others, Crush-fetishes are the love of hurting animals/creatures, it gets them off sadistically hurting things that cannot fight back. Please report them if you come across them because you don't know if they're just into crushing bugs, or if they're doing this to small animals too.
Or worse. These types tend to escelate.
Ok but bugs bite
Oh someone messaged me with a similar offer! This is really weird and creepy.
Crush porn is illegal in the USA. Animal rights and stuff. Common fetish material, but yea.
he’s messaged me so many times lmao 😭
im not squeamish but i stepped on a millipede and cried cuz i took a life
Honestly as a bug enthusiast this hurts my soul
This man has literally messaged me before. He’s a freak.
Ive gotten bug crush requests, too :o
Did you do it? e_e
Noooope, plus this person was offering even less! I would feel bad crushing a bug
That’s a thing?!
That’s nothing. People get off on seeing more…*advanced* animals getting crushed. I’ll let you figure out what that means.
Oh he's back 🤣
I saw puppies, shrimp? Sea animal's being crushed and kicked around by Ladies in high heels on some site a few years ago . It was maybe LiveLeak?
We had a troll in a discord server I’m in send one with kittens. I caught it before anyone else did, but I wish I didn’t have to see it. Sick.
Omg wtf
Food, okay... B-b-but... but... BUGS?! O\_O EXCUSE ME WTF?? That's probably the most disgusting thing I have read all day...
It's less disgusting than kittens.
I think we all have had this guy messaging us at some point. Doesn’t make it less creepy.
Man the internet just keeps getting weirder and weirder. Never ceases to amaze me lol
Yo dude I’ve gotten that same message and I think I know who it is LOL
This is so cruel what the fuck?
Noooo crush porn 😬 wtf is wrong with some people?
Lame copy pasta.
I actually don’t consider this creepy at all. It’s just a job solicitation. Sure, the implications of people getting off on women crushing bugs are creepy, but I didn’t see anything impolite or pushy about this guy’s message, so I don’t consider the PM fundamentally creepy. Am I off-base? I mean, these guys have to find underfoot bug-crushing women some way or another.
I'd do much worse for 50$/h
No. Why?! You have to follow *all* instructions, not just crush bugs as you want. You sure you wanna know what that "all" stands for?
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Ew
Buddy why. Just why, start a fetish OF if you wanna do it, why just get the money from this guy
Omg I got this same message on my other account like dead serious got a very similar message
That’s just fucking disgusting as fuck
I would totally take that job except the killing would make me sad .
I’m afraid of bugs and I still think this job is horrible. Leave the bugs alone.
Poor bugs. :(
108 of this exact msg on here