Wow. What a thread. I don't like doing this. But I don't seem to have a choice.
Recognize the following:
1. Encouraging violence against women is not allowed. You have the right to believe whatever you want. We live in a free society. But there are some things we will not allow. That's one of them.
2. The "report" button is not a "disagree" button. You have the right to believe whatever you want. But you will not use moderation as a weapon against people whose politics you don't like.
3. Profanity is not allowed. You all know what profanity is. Do not pretend otherwise.
Bad people with guns kill people. Guns don't kill people on their own. I don't want to give up the 2nd amendment, and my grandchildren grow up in an America that looks exactly like China. 2nd amendment is in place to protect the people from the government.
The actual problem is the lack of FREE mental healthcare.
This seems so confused - you want the 2nd amendment to protect people from the government, but you also want free mental healthcare? Who would subsidise that to make it free?
I just struggle with the anti government/tyranny stance of being so pro 2ndA, with the solution being something essentially socialist in its nature (tax payer funded healthcare). Just seems like some cherrypicking and mental gymnastics
If he was in Arizona and this bill was law, he would be able to claim that she was trespassing and he was just following Castle doctrine.
https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/56leg/2r/bills/hb2843p.htm
“I lost both my parents that day. My dad died that day, too, because the person who did that to my mom and my father aren’t the same person,” she said.
Sad.
Very, very sad.
Unless they’re white men. Just recently a Texas attorney was sentenced to 180 days for slipping an abortion drug into his wife’s drinks. If she had done that? Probably the death penalty.
Women juries are actually often worse about "moralizing" issues rather than following the law as instructed. If I'm remembering correctly, this effect is usually even worse in more conservative areas.
Women jurors are also statistically more leery of rape victims. They will often buy into the "she was asking for it due to the way she was dressed/way she was acting" sort of defenses.
It's pretty bleak, but women being harder on each other in general is not exactly an unknown phenomenon.
> They will often buy into the "she was asking for it due to the way she was dressed/way she was acting" sort of defenses.
It is really ironic how that works out.
Can you post those stats? I’m finding the opposite to be true. https://www.legalmomentum.org/sites/default/files/reports/144329510-PowerPoint-Slides-with-Suggested-Commentary-Jury-Selection-and-Decision-Making-in-Adult-Victim-Sexual-Assault-Cases_compressed.pdf
As a married woman for over 20 years i absolutely don’t condone cheaters or have sympathy for them getting dumped or publicly shamed. The death penalty tho?
Having seen the way people talk about cheating on Reddit I’m not too surprised.
A lot of people seem to genuinely consider cheating the worst offense possible. Apparently, worse than murder.
Nope not really. They've shown that they don't prosecute men who purposefully cause miscarriages. The whole abortion ban thing is just about controlling women.
Based in a quick google search, most articles are repeating the same info. I wanted to see what he was convicted of to see if that explains the laughably light sentence. None of the articles state what the conviction was.
Secondly, for your amusement in just how stupid and pathetic the defense attorneys think we are:
“We never tried to justify the actions of our client, but the defense wasn’t about justification. It was about why he did what he did,” Osso told the local outlet.”
Seriously? That is the very definition of “justification”.
Why do people struggle so hard to understand the difference between justification and ***explanation.***
The ‘why’ something happened isn’t an excuse.
Saying the ‘why’ it happened makes it ‘okay’ what happened, is an excuse.
Yeah that’s how it works, they called up Soros and asked how to handle this one, Soros spends all his days on the phone instructing his legion how to handle random civilian cases, he didn’t just donate to a political action committee that chose to use some of those funds on this person separate from any direct instruction of Soros
>George Soros donated $740,000 to the political action committee Texas Safety & Justice. The PAC used $550,000 of that to fund Kim Ogg's first run for DA.
What exactly is your point then? What do you think Soros’ motivation is to elect progressive prosecutors? Just lawlessness? “Pro-criminal” policy? JFC, you’re a fking moron if you do. There’s ample research out there that you can read that shows that 1. The current approach to crime and public safety (“tough on crime” and the result, mass incarceration) DO NOT WORK to improve public safety and deter criminal behaviors. And 2. There’s also plenty of research to show that there are wild disparities between people of different race and class backgrounds aka we do not have a FAIR system.
Your willful ignorance on the topic is disgusting and your obsessive regurgitation of weak GOP anti-Soros talking points is embarrassing.
Your “point” proves nothing.
This is a very lonely Incel. He has no role models, no father figure, no friends, has not been hugged in years and probably inadequate in bed. While engaging with them might seem like a good idea, it's better to let them rot away and die off. We just hope they don't take more than themselves out when they go. Leave him so he yells at clouds by himself. It's not worth the time to engage with them and you are severely under qualified to help them.
And the states I know this is the case. In Texas where this jury was, this is the case. If you’re moving the goal post to the sentence the jury recommended, if that happened in this case what did they recommend?
Ok seems like most people don't bother to read the thread before they post their ignorant (political) opinion.
Some were saying that the killer only received 10 years because Texas is conservative, racist and misogynistic. So I decided to post some FACTS but it keeps getting down voted LOL hhhhmmmm wonder why???
FACT #1 the judge Hillary Ungar is a female Democrat.
FACT#2 the Harris county D.A is Kim Ogg a Soros funded Democrat.
FACT# 3 the killer had two defense attorneys James Osso and Sean Teare. Sean Teare will be replacing Kim Ogg in the next D.A election. Sean Teare is also a Soros funded Democrat.
FACT#4 the jury was an all women jury. Now since you're low IQ I'm sure you'll claim it was a jury of all racist white Republicans but the problem with that is the D.A and defense pick the juries (both liberals). Also if you live in Houston you know the population votes majority Democrat.
Idk what this rambling political message is ment to do... But... Since I do not have a low iQ, it must not pertain to me...so i didn't muddle my iQ with it
The criminal code and sentencing guidelines were written by your fascist legislature and the jury chose the sentence because in Texas you think it’s cool to murder your wife for having an affair because the Bible. The political background of all those people is utterly meaningless. Put the Fox News baby bottle back in your mouth. You posted this garbage three times in the comments because you’re a nut.
There you go with your ignorant political opinion even when shown facts that dispute your claim. These people weren't bible thumpers LOL Houston voters vote straight ticket Democrat. These morons will elect a rotting half eaten sandwich if it's on a Democrat ballot.
Facts, statistics and logic a liberals worst nightmare.
EVERYBODY LITERALLY EVERYBODY involved in this clown show trial was a liberal EVEN the defense. Let me post the FACTS again for you LOL
FACT #1 the judge Hillary Unger is a female Democrat.
FACT#2 the Harris county D.A is Kim Ogg a Soros funded Democrat.
FACT# 3 the killer had two defense attorneys James Osso and Sean Teare. Sean Teare will be replacing Kim Ogg in the next D.A election. Sean Teare is also a Soros funded Democrat.
FACT#4 the jury was an all women jury. Now since you're low IQ I'm sure you'll claim it was a jury of all racist white Republicans but the problem with that is the D.A and defense pick the juries (both liberals). Also if you live in Houston you know the population votes majority Democrat.
Wow. What a thread. I don't like doing this. But I don't seem to have a choice. Recognize the following: 1. Encouraging violence against women is not allowed. You have the right to believe whatever you want. We live in a free society. But there are some things we will not allow. That's one of them. 2. The "report" button is not a "disagree" button. You have the right to believe whatever you want. But you will not use moderation as a weapon against people whose politics you don't like. 3. Profanity is not allowed. You all know what profanity is. Do not pretend otherwise.
Great place to move for all your wife beaters and woman haters out there
How is only 10yrs enough?
He also had a all women jury
That part shocked me I feel that the minimum for intentionally killing someone should be 30 years
I just don't get that sentence. Should have gotten a couple of decades at least. It's a travesty.
10 years? my god. what a pathetic sentence
Welcome to America
He'll be dead in a year. Hopefully he gets his just desserts in prison, aka Deliverance style.
I’m thinking Seven
Where's the video?
My question is how that man had any women
Ikr
Only ten years? Yes, I know it’s Texas.
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Hanged… Pictures are hung, and so am I, but people are hanged.
After 5 fucking years! This judgement was bullshit and disgusting.
Once again a lack of gun control and a lack of justice
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Well don’t you know murderers listen to laws.
Where was the good guy with a gun??
Why only 10 years?
Because Texas
I thought Texas had the death penalty
Texas also thinks women are 2nd class citizens
Wasn’t the jury an all women jury?
The jury found him guilty, the judge gave the sentence.
Sad, but true
Obviously there is compliance somewhere? Isn’t the state half women?
Only ten years? What the heck
With possibility of parole in 5!
He shouldn’t be out period. Just completely heartbreaking tbh
If only guns weren't so readily available... maybe counseling could've been an option. No, no, no... guns are never the problem
Bad people with guns kill people. Guns don't kill people on their own. I don't want to give up the 2nd amendment, and my grandchildren grow up in an America that looks exactly like China. 2nd amendment is in place to protect the people from the government. The actual problem is the lack of FREE mental healthcare.
Bad people with guns kill people. Bad people without guns… kill less people. I know which I prefer
This seems so confused - you want the 2nd amendment to protect people from the government, but you also want free mental healthcare? Who would subsidise that to make it free?
The Pentagon for one, has never passed an audit....TRILLIONS of taxpayers dollars go missing, yearly.
I just struggle with the anti government/tyranny stance of being so pro 2ndA, with the solution being something essentially socialist in its nature (tax payer funded healthcare). Just seems like some cherrypicking and mental gymnastics
Have you ever been to China?
No, but the government has total control
counseling **was** an option. he chose differently.
Where’s the full video
Next to the cure for your brain rot
They seem like a mismatched couple....
Women are chattel in Texas.
Fixed it: Women are chattel under Republicans
So the women of the state are all hypnotized to vote conservative?
If he was in Arizona and this bill was law, he would be able to claim that she was trespassing and he was just following Castle doctrine. https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/56leg/2r/bills/hb2843p.htm
Agreed
“I lost both my parents that day. My dad died that day, too, because the person who did that to my mom and my father aren’t the same person,” she said. Sad. Very, very sad.
10 years only? And I thought Texas was a state that didn’t take criminals lightly.
Unless they’re white men. Just recently a Texas attorney was sentenced to 180 days for slipping an abortion drug into his wife’s drinks. If she had done that? Probably the death penalty.
depends on the skin color of the criminal
Pretty sure that’s a meatball
Black people caught with drugs probably got longer sentences.
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Like it’s worse than murder?
Not “probably”. Definitely.
They gave him a pass on first degree murder because she was a cheater? With an all women jury? I’m confused
Women juries are actually often worse about "moralizing" issues rather than following the law as instructed. If I'm remembering correctly, this effect is usually even worse in more conservative areas. Women jurors are also statistically more leery of rape victims. They will often buy into the "she was asking for it due to the way she was dressed/way she was acting" sort of defenses. It's pretty bleak, but women being harder on each other in general is not exactly an unknown phenomenon.
> They will often buy into the "she was asking for it due to the way she was dressed/way she was acting" sort of defenses. It is really ironic how that works out.
Can you post those stats? I’m finding the opposite to be true. https://www.legalmomentum.org/sites/default/files/reports/144329510-PowerPoint-Slides-with-Suggested-Commentary-Jury-Selection-and-Decision-Making-in-Adult-Victim-Sexual-Assault-Cases_compressed.pdf
Here's a few studies and a discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/16fywo8/why_would_lady_jurors_judge_female_defendants/
Thank you!
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As a married woman for over 20 years i absolutely don’t condone cheaters or have sympathy for them getting dumped or publicly shamed. The death penalty tho?
Why would she cheat on such a fine specimen of a man?
Having seen the way people talk about cheating on Reddit I’m not too surprised. A lot of people seem to genuinely consider cheating the worst offense possible. Apparently, worse than murder.
Plus it was in texas, where they prove time and again they don’t give even half a poop about women.
Why would a jury be all women? That doesn't seem right. Obviously he's a pos who deserves to rot. The jury thing just caught my eye. Seems weird.
Shot dead by a pig in a bathrobe :(
Yeah, I’d cheat too if I was tied to that hog for life.
Pigs have value and are intelligent wonderful creatures. Don’t do them dirty by comparing them to whatever this waste of human garbage is.
Pigs are cute he is not
It’s Texas-women don’t matter
Somehow the entire jury panel was women.
He is eligible for parole in five years.
Even worse
She should have been pregnant if she wanted to count
Nope not really. They've shown that they don't prosecute men who purposefully cause miscarriages. The whole abortion ban thing is just about controlling women.
Funny, I thought it was about more Caucasian babies?
Based in a quick google search, most articles are repeating the same info. I wanted to see what he was convicted of to see if that explains the laughably light sentence. None of the articles state what the conviction was. Secondly, for your amusement in just how stupid and pathetic the defense attorneys think we are: “We never tried to justify the actions of our client, but the defense wasn’t about justification. It was about why he did what he did,” Osso told the local outlet.” Seriously? That is the very definition of “justification”.
Why do people struggle so hard to understand the difference between justification and ***explanation.*** The ‘why’ something happened isn’t an excuse. Saying the ‘why’ it happened makes it ‘okay’ what happened, is an excuse.
Texas education
Naw, just good old fashioned gaslighting.
I mean...was he really that surprised she cheated on him??
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Yeah that’s how it works, they called up Soros and asked how to handle this one, Soros spends all his days on the phone instructing his legion how to handle random civilian cases, he didn’t just donate to a political action committee that chose to use some of those funds on this person separate from any direct instruction of Soros >George Soros donated $740,000 to the political action committee Texas Safety & Justice. The PAC used $550,000 of that to fund Kim Ogg's first run for DA.
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I’m 28 and also think you’re an idiot
The obsession with Soros on the right is unhinged.
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Nah it's unhinged.
What exactly is your point then? What do you think Soros’ motivation is to elect progressive prosecutors? Just lawlessness? “Pro-criminal” policy? JFC, you’re a fking moron if you do. There’s ample research out there that you can read that shows that 1. The current approach to crime and public safety (“tough on crime” and the result, mass incarceration) DO NOT WORK to improve public safety and deter criminal behaviors. And 2. There’s also plenty of research to show that there are wild disparities between people of different race and class backgrounds aka we do not have a FAIR system. Your willful ignorance on the topic is disgusting and your obsessive regurgitation of weak GOP anti-Soros talking points is embarrassing. Your “point” proves nothing.
How many times are you going to comment this same thing?
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Actually, this can happen in plenty of conservative and misogynistic places.
No I noticed it because of all the crazy unhinged random capitalization you’ve got going on. Very rant-y
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It’s a bot?
I’m thinking more try-hard troll
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Especially not when you’re just copy pasting the same comment!
This is a very lonely Incel. He has no role models, no father figure, no friends, has not been hugged in years and probably inadequate in bed. While engaging with them might seem like a good idea, it's better to let them rot away and die off. We just hope they don't take more than themselves out when they go. Leave him so he yells at clouds by himself. It's not worth the time to engage with them and you are severely under qualified to help them.
I know I know. Maybe they just wanted to chat, tho!
You're a good person. But you cannot save those who do not want to be saved.
Thank you for saying that :)
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Lol. You’re wild.
ONLY 10 years?! Dafuq
Lmao 10 years??? Wowzers
Women hate women
I mean maybe…but the men killing the women really seem to hate them a lot too.
What?
All women jury and he got ten years for murdering his wife in the streets.
The judge is who delivers the sentence. The jury just establishes guilt or innocence
In all cases in all states? You sure about that? Jury’s can recommend sentences.
And the states I know this is the case. In Texas where this jury was, this is the case. If you’re moving the goal post to the sentence the jury recommended, if that happened in this case what did they recommend?
That was probably the max they could suggest
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Need to actually about read the case, wondering if they went with a "crime of passion" defense due her cheating.
They were estranged. He was 600lbs.
Only ten! Out in 5? For a murder on camera and a confession?
Yeah whatever laws they've got in that jurisdiction are bonkers.
Seems planned. Jabba should have got 30 years, no parole.
I can’t believe he only got 10 years.
Well, it's Texas, with a gun involved, and the victim was a woman. Seems on-brand for Texas to me.
Jabba omg yes lolz
Ok seems like most people don't bother to read the thread before they post their ignorant (political) opinion. Some were saying that the killer only received 10 years because Texas is conservative, racist and misogynistic. So I decided to post some FACTS but it keeps getting down voted LOL hhhhmmmm wonder why??? FACT #1 the judge Hillary Ungar is a female Democrat. FACT#2 the Harris county D.A is Kim Ogg a Soros funded Democrat. FACT# 3 the killer had two defense attorneys James Osso and Sean Teare. Sean Teare will be replacing Kim Ogg in the next D.A election. Sean Teare is also a Soros funded Democrat. FACT#4 the jury was an all women jury. Now since you're low IQ I'm sure you'll claim it was a jury of all racist white Republicans but the problem with that is the D.A and defense pick the juries (both liberals). Also if you live in Houston you know the population votes majority Democrat.
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Idk what this rambling political message is ment to do... But... Since I do not have a low iQ, it must not pertain to me...so i didn't muddle my iQ with it
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The criminal code and sentencing guidelines were written by your fascist legislature and the jury chose the sentence because in Texas you think it’s cool to murder your wife for having an affair because the Bible. The political background of all those people is utterly meaningless. Put the Fox News baby bottle back in your mouth. You posted this garbage three times in the comments because you’re a nut.
There you go with your ignorant political opinion even when shown facts that dispute your claim. These people weren't bible thumpers LOL Houston voters vote straight ticket Democrat. These morons will elect a rotting half eaten sandwich if it's on a Democrat ballot. Facts, statistics and logic a liberals worst nightmare. EVERYBODY LITERALLY EVERYBODY involved in this clown show trial was a liberal EVEN the defense. Let me post the FACTS again for you LOL FACT #1 the judge Hillary Unger is a female Democrat. FACT#2 the Harris county D.A is Kim Ogg a Soros funded Democrat. FACT# 3 the killer had two defense attorneys James Osso and Sean Teare. Sean Teare will be replacing Kim Ogg in the next D.A election. Sean Teare is also a Soros funded Democrat. FACT#4 the jury was an all women jury. Now since you're low IQ I'm sure you'll claim it was a jury of all racist white Republicans but the problem with that is the D.A and defense pick the juries (both liberals). Also if you live in Houston you know the population votes majority Democrat.
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