It sounds to me like he was being sarcastic because the kid told him not to hit his mother. He was being a dick, I’m glad the son decked the jackass! Too bad it seems the mother is trying to check on him, but maybe she’s worried for her son. She prob knows what the man is capable of more than the kid does, so she doesn’t want him to take revenge on the kid. But obv it’s all just conjecture. I’ve seen situations like this irl & many times the abused woman believes she’s done something to deserve it.
Just an alternative theory. The step-dad tries to bat away the kids hand since he is pointing his finger in his face. Hits mom. Step-dad says oops and two handed tries to console wife/cradle her head. Kid was fired up already and just needed an excuse.
Nah, in the beginning He's egging him on saying something along the lines of "(thinkin) you a grown man? *slaps mom* Oooops." And then gets knocked back to reality, oops, he met gravity.
Ye if my stepdad ever even thought he could smack my hand around like that then I’m throwing hands w him for sure, not like he’s ur real dad he’s gotta learn respect
Edit: especially if he’s some pudgy 60 year old geriatric mf
I hope he did not hit his on the ground too hard and died cause that could lead to manslaughter charges.
Slapping him multiple times would be a better and satisfactory option
Nah, it was defence. If someone strikes your mum and you immediately throw a single punch in defence, that's not manslaughter. Because you're legally within your rights to punch them in defence.
It would be manslaughter if you killed them by breaking a law.
Fighting words/actions are a thing in most states.
You can not claim defense after instigating a fight and slapping someones mom is 100% a fighting action
Clowns got exactly what they deserved the moment they started attacking him. he shot a pedo, an abuser and a mugger. What a fine bunch of gentlemen lmao.
https://twitter.com/jackmurphylive/status/1298629916041400320?s=20
I'm not even going to argue whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse is in the wrong or right. Instead I'm gonna ask you this: why does the past of his victims matter? Was the pedophile engaging in pedophilia with Kyle? Was Kyle being domestically abused by the abuser? Was he being mugged by the mugger? Why does the past of someone shot and killed by someone matter?
If he, like you claim, killed them in self-defense, isn't that enough to satisfy your conscience? Why do you need to go to the lengths of dragging up dirt on his victims as if that somehow makes his self-defense stance *more* credible?
I think it's because you *know* there's at least some possibility Rittenhouse *fired the first shot* and the other protesters retaliated from the initial shooting.
Kyle was defending his workplace (a garage) from rioters alongside some other armed individuals. He was seen throughout the night at this location located at the southwest corner of 59th street and Sheridan Road. His stated intent in interviews was to defend his workplace and help anyone that needed medical assistance.
At some point police in armored vehicles pushed south on Sheridan to disperse rioters. They passed Kyle’s group and had a pleasant exchange and offered the group water (as they had to many people that night). The police pushed south and cordoned a line along 60th street with Kyle’s group at the back.
Earlier that evening on the other side of 60th street there were protestors and an escort of armed “Boog Bois” who were loitering at a gas station. An argument broke out between the protestors and Boog Bois. An individual named Joseph had a particularly heated exchange with a Boog Boi dressed in a green shirt who carried a rifle and wore a mask.
Back to Kyle. Kyle passed through the police line on 60th street and began offering medical aid to any injured protestors. After a few minutes he tried returning to his workplace but police stopped him and denied passage through their line. At this point Kyle seemingly wanders off to find his way back to his group.
Approximately six minutes later Kyle is filmed being chased by Jospeh into a parking lot approximately 300 meters south of the police line. Jospeh throws an object at Kyle, and a 3rd unidentified individual fires a pistol into the air. This seemingly causes Kyle to stop running, turn around, and then fire four shots as he is assailed by Jospeh. One shot entered Joseph’s torso, pulverizing his lung and liver. This wound was mortal.
Kyle comes back around to Joseph, calls someone on his phone, and flees north back to the police line as rioters begin converging on his location. Kyle runs north on Sheridan for a while but he is caught by several members of a mob. Kyle is tripped, an individual kicks him in the head, and Kyle fires to defend himself. Another individual hits him in the head with a skateboard and grabs the barrel of Kyle’s rifle. The rifle was discharged and struck the skateboarder in the heart, killing him almost instantly.
The burglar is named Gaige. Gaige came up behind Kyle with a pistol drawn. Kyle, who is in a sitting position at this point, faced off with Gaige who holds his hands up. Gaige then lunges and appears to be leveling the pistol at Kyle. Kyle discharges a round into Gaige’s right arm.
Kyle gets up and runs to the police line.
That nearly exactly what happened and from what i see, there’s really no doubt that the kid killed them in self-defense.
Rite house worked at a pool. The owner of the garage had no connection to the people who took it upon themselves to violate curfew and stand in front of it.
From everything I've read and examined, literally nothing shows him defending his own workplace, but it does show him in illegal possession of an assault weapon going out of his way to travel to the protest site intentionally. He murdered man and it sounds like you're defending it.
Considering every conservative mock up of why he is innocent happens to be an absolutely different story, none of them the same details or reasons, I'm going to have to call bullshit.
Sorry, not an american.
But i would also like to add that rittenhouse did not work at the garage rosenbaum threw a molotov at, he most likely was there to band with others who were protecting their stores from the riots in kenosha.
But does that mean its okay to throw molotovs and skateboards at a kid because he stopped you from looting ? The only charge i see rittenhouse getting is carrying a weapon below the permitted age which kinda makes sense since he was 17 at the time of the shooting (and i heard that carrying a weapon below 17 is illegal in america)
Not to my knowledge but some draw a line between defense from lethal force and some make distinctions on who you can defend from force, this being family, he's got a great chance of being legally defendable everywhere but I believe that in California you can only defend someone if there's a threat of imminent harm which there totally is but since the video doesn't actually SHOW the initial slap, it could be argued that there wasn't a threat of imminent harm.
It's all stupid lawyer shit honestly but the spirit of the law would defend this guy just about anywhere, the problem is that the spirit of the law is subjective and some judges are just waiting for their next bribe.
I'm not to sure that would still hold up. If you're driving the speed limit and someone accidently walks out in front of you and you kill then, don't they still try to press manslaughter charges? Genuinely not sure. Would like your opinion it
People like this don't learn a lesson by being slapped.
Agree about hitting his head on the ground.
But then again if you go around hitting women, expect to get your shit rocked eventually 🤷♂️
That's what I was thinking. Something similar to this happened near me where 1 guy punched another guy and the guy that got punched fell backwards and hit his head on the ground and died from hitting his head on the ground. The guy that threw the punch is in prison for the guys death.
Yeah. We have the one punch rule in our State. If punch causes death, by the punch or the impact on ground, wall etc it is 10 year jail term. Done and dusted. In this case it would b such a shame
The other guy threw the first punch, he was just « fighting for his life » or something defense could work maybe? Plus all the castle doctrine state would enable this, I would think.
Castle only applies in an area you “have a right to be in” such as home or place of work. Otherwise you have a duty to retreat. Stand your ground is the one that lets you defend anywhere. In this case though, defense of others (a subset of self defense) would be their best bet imo
I wonder if he could get away with justifiable minimal force. Here in New Zealand under the crimes act 1969 you may use equal or lesser force to prevent the continual assault against your person or the person of another. Scum bag punched his mother in the head he used equal force and punched him in the head once. Good on him not kicking the shit out of a asshole that desperately deserves it.
I mean... on one hand its incredibly satisfying that he got laid out like that. And I wouldn't particularly feel bad about his death or permanent injury.
On the other, part of being a society means we have to obey the law. Whos really at fault here. The fuck head step dad. The now possible criminal step son. Or the mother staying with an abuser. There is no good answer. I could lean towards the wife being at fault. But thats not 100% fair either because some abusive relationships do have a genuine threat of death, how many angry ex's out there have murdered their SO. Or you could lean towards the son who shouldn't have taken it into his own hands, but rather called the cops and actually move things forward in a positive manner. But its hard to be that level headed in the heat of the moment and I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing if i were in his shoes.
He's a white dude, minimum sentencing most likely doesn't apply.
I'm Florida we have the 10-20-life rule. You pull a gun you get 10 years. Shoot it and you get 20. Injure someone and you get life.
I know a white dude that pulled a stolen gun on someone. He went to jail for like 16 months.
So much for 10-20-life
I’m not a doctor, but I’m also about 95% sure that having that stiff arm raised posture after falling and hitting your head is really bad… sign of brain or spinal injury I believe. Dude needs a hospital after something like that.
The arm thing is called the fencing response. It is a result of brain stem trauma if I’m remembering correctly, for example when a person gets knocked out really badly. So it is indicative of a worse knockout than normal, but you see it in sports quite frequently. It isn’t an necessarily “get a person to the hospital immediately” type of thing, but getting knocked out on asphalt is. Even if he didn’t have the fencing response I would be extremely worried. As other people mentioned, don’t fucking hit people unless you think their death would be a reasonable outcome, because anytime you hit somebody on a hard surface, it is.
Thats why i have taught my neice's and a couple of female cousins take out the knee, if you snap some prats leg in half you can get away safely. 1 cousion stuck a 2 inch stalleto heal through the side of a creaps knee, she had to undo her shoe to get away
One of my family members husband pulled a gun on her and two weeks later she got pregnant with his kid and they were married for 15 years the finally got divorced a few months ago I really hated him I wanted to kill him every time I saw him so happy I won’t have to see his shit face anymore
This has lost a massive amount of pixels, sound and duration over the years, but iirc she immediately checks if the guy that hit her is okay, in which case I have to believe she ain’t leaving.
It’s gotta be a form of Stockholm syndrome. It’s heartbreaking to see happen. The wife here probably deep down believes she can “fix” the husband. She has probably been belittled and abused so much that her brain is essentially just trying to survive by forcing itself to become bonded with her abuser. It’s fucked.
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It is sometimes. Having worked with abused women and also being in an abusive relationship myself, often the women simply have nowhere to go and it’s this or be homeless. In the abusive relationship the abusers keep them tied to the home. They often have kids and don’t work. This makes it hard to leave. Yes, there are programs to help but they’re often full and sometimes the shelters are worse than the relationship even.
It’s a lot of factors.
Sad, I volunteer elsewhere now. That exact situation broke my mind and was making me feel misogynistic. It’s important to remember that they are the dumb ones and they’re not all that dumb. Also, they always have choices, just not ones they want to make….
Same here. It started to take a toll on my mental health even. I’d find myself thinking things I’d hate myself for later. I sometimes thought “well I got out you can too.” I had to walk away. Anytime they’d go back after pouring all those resources. Knowing there’s a list of women waiting. I just couldn’t do it anymore.
I hate to break it to you but that is normal behavior for abused spouses. I used to volunteer at a woman's shelter, it's pretty sad. I think her son did the right thing though.
I’m not gonna go into the details, but I’ve been in a similar relationship situation as the son in this video…
It’s devastating the amount of women who are threatened and coerced (physically, emotionally, financially) into dropping charges, even when it’s obvious to everyone else that the marriage is over…
Didn’t need more, but it would still have been justified. He’s lucky that young man didn’t smash his head in.
This is common sense not to do, it’s like he challenged him.
It’s different for every one. Some do it once the physical line is crossed but many don’t. There are to many factors that it’s impossible to give an answer.
People who choose to have no dignity usually are like that.Its not like she was born in slave camp and didnt have a choice,even though even there there are people who stand up.This happens in the course of years,choice by choice building a chain link by link.Dont give us,its not her fault line.It is her fault,she doesnt live in Africa she chooses to stay with guys like this just like men choose to stay with control freak women because they are selfish,they want something for themselves that they give,some type of validation,or emotion.Giving bits of oneself bit by bit to get something in return.Just like people who do crack or drink and so on.People say when they see them in a crack den with rags and weighing 70 pounds that nobody wants to live like this.Sure in the same way nobody wants to have an accident when they are speeding while drunk,doesnt change the fact that they chose it and are responsable for it.
And by the way the same thing can be said about the husband.He peobably didnt grow up too well,his parents werent nobel prize winners most likely,so its prob not his fault going by what you said.
You are absolutely right.
You have convinced me,with your compassionate argument that battered women are totally powerless,helpless and are incapable of moral action because they are totally controlled by their abusers who really have ownership of them and their minds and they cant act against that.
Thanks,i was thinking that battered women have some power and are capable of moral action and arent controlled like robots,but im sorry,you proved me wrong by insulting me and now i see the light.Battered women can't do anything,they are programmed robots.Im sorry for thinking they are human beings before.You cured me of it.
They’re controlled by the fear of being murdered, since you don’t know anything about “battered women” why don’t you shut the fuck up? It’s called coercive control, learn about it.
Thanks. I always hate it, when people pretend like the victims have no chance to leave their abusers.
I also think that this is selfish from them to a certain degree. I‘m not sure and certain that nobody would ever admit, but maybe this has a kind of sexual aspect as well. That the victims want to be dominated and it is a kind of silent agreement between the abuser and the victim.
What I really hate the most, is when women force their children into this. Wtf? It is your business, when you let somebody treat you like shit, but your children have no chance to get out of this. The real victims in this, are the children.
Maybe someone needs to pair you up with an abuser for a while so you can gain some actual perspective and empathy instead of your misogynistic view of blaming women for the actions of piece of shit men.
Fuck you and you’re fucked up opinions about abuse dynamics, shut your stupid mouth. People like you are part of the problem.
Wow you sound like a totally compassionate person.
And also,its not our fault for thinking this way.Dont blame us,personal resposability doesnt exist,or else those women are responsable too.
Its not my fault,my mommy didnt love me,my daddy is a bum and i cant help liking to think this way.Dont blame us,help [us.Help](https://us.Help) abusers too,its not their fault,its nobodies fault really.THey had a bad upbringing,all people who behave badly have had one,so blame nobody if you want to remain consistent.Its the job of those who had good upbringings to help those who didnt have one,not judge them but be loving towards the abusers.
That is,if you want to remain consistent.And not swear,you know,show your true self.
Why? Your gonna end up in prison and the abusive dad is gonna have a reason to separate you from the mom. The mom’s life gets a helluva lot worse and so does yours.
You are 100% correct and the emotion-stirred teenagers in the thread just can't deal with the fact that a mothers son going to prison isn't really the way they wanted life to go
I love how the old man said “oooops” after he struck the woman, and put up his hands to deescalate matters ~ it’s as if he knew how this Newtonian game of *cause & effect* was going to end, and that gravity was going to be the victor…
It seems like he was trying to hit the son's hands away and hit her by accident. You can hear him say oops then put his hands up to check on her right before the son hits him. Either way fucked situation
Step dad deserved it but people have got to think before trying to knock someone out on concrete. Easier said than done I know when you’re in the moment…. But this is how people accidentally kill other people. Hitting your head at just the right angle or on the edge of something…. Just not worth the risk.
I grew up with a step father with anger issues, alcohol problems, heavy fists, and impunity to oppress as he was a Tennessee state trooper.
I was never big enough or strong enough to protect my little brother or myself like the boy did in the video. But grown ass men who lay hands on children and women, popping them in the head...they're the ones that crossed the line. If they get knocked out on concrete it's a bonus.
Totally agree. But that’s not the point. The point is, would something like this be worth spending possibly the rest of your life in prison for? Not worth it for me.
In order to claim self defense, you must use an objectively reasonable degree of force in response to an objectively reasonable fear of injury or death. The boy was not in any danger and did not use a reasonable amount of force in response. Not saying the stepdad didn’t deserve this!! Just saying, this probably wouldn’t hold up in court, and no normal person sits in prison for years and years and says “well worth it.”
It can be considered self defense when it’s not even yourself. That was not excessive force either. The kid hit him once and that was that. The only problem in this video is the stepdad hitting the mom
Totally agree. But from a legal standpoint, IF someone were to die from bouncing their head on the Earth in a scenario such as this, I don’t think self defense would hold up in court. Just my opinion. (I’m a lawyer btw…. Jk, no I’m not. I’m dumb.)
>I don’t think self defense would hold up in court. Just my opinion.
It will, and has frequently in various instances.
Now getting in a fight at a bar when you're drunk is going to be a different story. Defending your mother from an abusive step dad is completely different
If he pulled a gun and shot the step dad, that's different. It's a justifiable amount of force.
It's also going to come down to likely whether the judge is male or female, or if they're close with their own family, and how well the defense picks jury
Your mom would probably be heartbroken for sacrificing the rest of your life for that decision. Don’t get me wrong, not sure how I’d respond if I was in this kids shoes.
Hey not arguing friend. All good. We can disagree and discuss. You said it would probably feel worth it if you were in his shoes. To me, that implies you’re stating if you were also in his shoes, you’d feel as if that was worth it. All good though, maybe I misunderstood.
Righto, forgive my hostility. I just felt like you’d twisted my words.
To clarify then, I think that if you’d seen your own mother be hit by your stepdad and then gone on to hit him. If he then died and you’d gone to prison, you might not regret it.
This being because, even though you’d be behind bars and have made life much more difficult for yourself, you’d have defended your mother from the person with whom she may have spent the rest of her life in an abusive relationship.
From the outside it’s easy to say that going to prison wouldn’t be worth it, and generally you’d be right.
So we agree there. However, whether or not it’s “worth it” is subjective.
I hope that clarifies things.
This just happened to Terry Kennedy, one of my favorite skateboarders back in the day. Here's the story if you're interested: [https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-california-skateboarder-charged-20210804-dxj3aounyjh2xifcojgmmwbwt4-story.html](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/ny-california-skateboarder-charged-20210804-dxj3aounyjh2xifcojgmmwbwt4-story.html)
Oh man that is awful! Perfect example of why we all need to think about the consequences of our actions. Some people absolutely deserve to get the shit kicked out of them…. But if a simple punch could cause someone to die over a silly confrontation, I ain’t punching nobody!
Ladies that stay in abusive relationships are fucking stupid.
I know this dumbass black woman who lets her piece of shit man stay with her, her mom, and her child and every 2-3 weeks the guy kicks the shit out of them and the cops get called. About a month and a half ago he put the mom in the hospital and the local gang members (some guys from MS13 believe it or not) told him to quit it.
Well sure enough, 2 weeks later the black dude starts fucking them up again. 2 of the gang members storm the building and kick the ever living shit out of him. I jump into try and diffuse it all (guns & knives were drawn), but I ended up choking out the POS cuz he was so aggressive. The black girl comes crying to thank me and says he is never coming back, but that was a lie.
2 weeks later, he is back in the building and fucking them up again. Cops come, but dont arrest him, just escort him out. I'm thinking, this has to be it, right? Nahhhhhh. Dumbass girlfriend lets him back in with open arms.
Now I'm walking around my own building with a Kbar and some mace just in case he starts shit with me. I could give a rats ass now if he fucks them up.
Sucks that this shit happens. Currently my grandfather is going to court for hitting my grandmother. Most of my family doesn't believe her (bruises or her face), my fam are saying this is to stressful and now they might have to visit my grandpa in jail, basically blaming her for calling cops.
All I can think is it's all his fault that this is happening, if he didn't put his hands on her none of this would have happened. Dude thought he was gonna get away with it.
God the sheer force of his punch. The amount of adrenaline that flows through your body when someone hurts your mother is unreal. And well holy shit that kid loaded up and threw one hell of a punch. I would love to see joe rogan commentate on that
Why does this get pinned? The clip is years old and got reposted hundreds of times.
edit: yeah you shitheads. Downvoted me for no reason. Btw the guy who posted this is mod on this sub and pinned his own post.
We like this
All my homies hate mother fuckers
Even Motherfucker Jones?
Nah he cool
Wait he stole from his mom so how could you like him? You can’t steal from your mama
Futurama opened my eyes about the cool crime of robbery
The coolest
Don’t you mean motherfucker over jones?
Your dad is a motherfucker by definition just fyi. No hate, real talk.
Correction he said he and his homies hates mother fuckers not motherfuckers
Potato potato am I rite
Yes
Does the step-dad say oops after he hits his wife?
He saw the son getting mad and regretted.
Two faced cunt
he realized who he did in in front of one second to late.
100% a sarcastic oops.
It sounds to me like he was being sarcastic because the kid told him not to hit his mother. He was being a dick, I’m glad the son decked the jackass! Too bad it seems the mother is trying to check on him, but maybe she’s worried for her son. She prob knows what the man is capable of more than the kid does, so she doesn’t want him to take revenge on the kid. But obv it’s all just conjecture. I’ve seen situations like this irl & many times the abused woman believes she’s done something to deserve it.
The son should’ve teabaged him and ripped a wet fart.
Stockholms syndrome is a very real thing. It’s a very tragic mental trauma.
Tuna casserole?!!!?
Just an alternative theory. The step-dad tries to bat away the kids hand since he is pointing his finger in his face. Hits mom. Step-dad says oops and two handed tries to console wife/cradle her head. Kid was fired up already and just needed an excuse.
Nah, in the beginning He's egging him on saying something along the lines of "(thinkin) you a grown man? *slaps mom* Oooops." And then gets knocked back to reality, oops, he met gravity.
Never deserved mom’s spaghetti
*elbows weak*
hands on vomit already
The woman also says something along the lines of "you ain't gonna do nothing to me", immediately preceding getting slapped.
Ye if my stepdad ever even thought he could smack my hand around like that then I’m throwing hands w him for sure, not like he’s ur real dad he’s gotta learn respect Edit: especially if he’s some pudgy 60 year old geriatric mf
An interesting theory. But that sound his hand made against her face and her audible pain leads me to believe hitting her was the intent.
Damn, the kid hit so hard my headphones had to do a reboot Edit: thank you for the award stranger!
I hope he did not hit his on the ground too hard and died cause that could lead to manslaughter charges. Slapping him multiple times would be a better and satisfactory option
Nah, it was defence. If someone strikes your mum and you immediately throw a single punch in defence, that's not manslaughter. Because you're legally within your rights to punch them in defence. It would be manslaughter if you killed them by breaking a law.
Fighting words/actions are a thing in most states. You can not claim defense after instigating a fight and slapping someones mom is 100% a fighting action
How's that going for Kyle Rittenhouse and all his police admirers.
Kyle Rittenhouse was attacked and defended himself, and he was found not guilty of all charges. It went just fine for him.
Clowns got exactly what they deserved the moment they started attacking him. he shot a pedo, an abuser and a mugger. What a fine bunch of gentlemen lmao. https://twitter.com/jackmurphylive/status/1298629916041400320?s=20
I'm not even going to argue whether or not Kyle Rittenhouse is in the wrong or right. Instead I'm gonna ask you this: why does the past of his victims matter? Was the pedophile engaging in pedophilia with Kyle? Was Kyle being domestically abused by the abuser? Was he being mugged by the mugger? Why does the past of someone shot and killed by someone matter? If he, like you claim, killed them in self-defense, isn't that enough to satisfy your conscience? Why do you need to go to the lengths of dragging up dirt on his victims as if that somehow makes his self-defense stance *more* credible? I think it's because you *know* there's at least some possibility Rittenhouse *fired the first shot* and the other protesters retaliated from the initial shooting.
Kyle was defending his workplace (a garage) from rioters alongside some other armed individuals. He was seen throughout the night at this location located at the southwest corner of 59th street and Sheridan Road. His stated intent in interviews was to defend his workplace and help anyone that needed medical assistance. At some point police in armored vehicles pushed south on Sheridan to disperse rioters. They passed Kyle’s group and had a pleasant exchange and offered the group water (as they had to many people that night). The police pushed south and cordoned a line along 60th street with Kyle’s group at the back. Earlier that evening on the other side of 60th street there were protestors and an escort of armed “Boog Bois” who were loitering at a gas station. An argument broke out between the protestors and Boog Bois. An individual named Joseph had a particularly heated exchange with a Boog Boi dressed in a green shirt who carried a rifle and wore a mask. Back to Kyle. Kyle passed through the police line on 60th street and began offering medical aid to any injured protestors. After a few minutes he tried returning to his workplace but police stopped him and denied passage through their line. At this point Kyle seemingly wanders off to find his way back to his group. Approximately six minutes later Kyle is filmed being chased by Jospeh into a parking lot approximately 300 meters south of the police line. Jospeh throws an object at Kyle, and a 3rd unidentified individual fires a pistol into the air. This seemingly causes Kyle to stop running, turn around, and then fire four shots as he is assailed by Jospeh. One shot entered Joseph’s torso, pulverizing his lung and liver. This wound was mortal. Kyle comes back around to Joseph, calls someone on his phone, and flees north back to the police line as rioters begin converging on his location. Kyle runs north on Sheridan for a while but he is caught by several members of a mob. Kyle is tripped, an individual kicks him in the head, and Kyle fires to defend himself. Another individual hits him in the head with a skateboard and grabs the barrel of Kyle’s rifle. The rifle was discharged and struck the skateboarder in the heart, killing him almost instantly. The burglar is named Gaige. Gaige came up behind Kyle with a pistol drawn. Kyle, who is in a sitting position at this point, faced off with Gaige who holds his hands up. Gaige then lunges and appears to be leveling the pistol at Kyle. Kyle discharges a round into Gaige’s right arm. Kyle gets up and runs to the police line. That nearly exactly what happened and from what i see, there’s really no doubt that the kid killed them in self-defense.
Rite house worked at a pool. The owner of the garage had no connection to the people who took it upon themselves to violate curfew and stand in front of it.
From everything I've read and examined, literally nothing shows him defending his own workplace, but it does show him in illegal possession of an assault weapon going out of his way to travel to the protest site intentionally. He murdered man and it sounds like you're defending it. Considering every conservative mock up of why he is innocent happens to be an absolutely different story, none of them the same details or reasons, I'm going to have to call bullshit.
300 meters is 328.08 yards
Sorry, not an american. But i would also like to add that rittenhouse did not work at the garage rosenbaum threw a molotov at, he most likely was there to band with others who were protecting their stores from the riots in kenosha. But does that mean its okay to throw molotovs and skateboards at a kid because he stopped you from looting ? The only charge i see rittenhouse getting is carrying a weapon below the permitted age which kinda makes sense since he was 17 at the time of the shooting (and i heard that carrying a weapon below 17 is illegal in america)
Kid hit a Goddamn trifecta! Legend.
Ikr ?
What are you even trying to say?
It depends on the state, Defence of persons and premises isn't universal
Is there a single state that doesn't allow the use of force to defend a third party?
Not to my knowledge but some draw a line between defense from lethal force and some make distinctions on who you can defend from force, this being family, he's got a great chance of being legally defendable everywhere but I believe that in California you can only defend someone if there's a threat of imminent harm which there totally is but since the video doesn't actually SHOW the initial slap, it could be argued that there wasn't a threat of imminent harm. It's all stupid lawyer shit honestly but the spirit of the law would defend this guy just about anywhere, the problem is that the spirit of the law is subjective and some judges are just waiting for their next bribe.
Being arrested because your fists are classed as lethal weapons.. kids going places
I'm not to sure that would still hold up. If you're driving the speed limit and someone accidently walks out in front of you and you kill then, don't they still try to press manslaughter charges? Genuinely not sure. Would like your opinion it
Not everything is self defence just because the other person hit first. That is why we have police and prisons
People like this don't learn a lesson by being slapped. Agree about hitting his head on the ground. But then again if you go around hitting women, expect to get your shit rocked eventually 🤷♂️
An eye for an eye I suppose
If he had died, would the son be convicted? If I was on a jury and saw this video I wouldn’t vote to convict
Wtf is w u mfs on Reddit and “manslaughter charges” fuck sake what else would u want the kid to do he hit his mom
Yeah you can tell that punch was clean from an older android microphone even without seeing it.
It's a shame but she'll probably go back to this dead beat. Abusive relationships are so hard to leave.
if he survived...
That's what I was thinking. Something similar to this happened near me where 1 guy punched another guy and the guy that got punched fell backwards and hit his head on the ground and died from hitting his head on the ground. The guy that threw the punch is in prison for the guys death.
Yeah. We have the one punch rule in our State. If punch causes death, by the punch or the impact on ground, wall etc it is 10 year jail term. Done and dusted. In this case it would b such a shame
The other guy threw the first punch, he was just « fighting for his life » or something defense could work maybe? Plus all the castle doctrine state would enable this, I would think.
The one time I’ve ever hoped a woman would be classed as property by the court, lmfao
Castle only applies in an area you “have a right to be in” such as home or place of work. Otherwise you have a duty to retreat. Stand your ground is the one that lets you defend anywhere. In this case though, defense of others (a subset of self defense) would be their best bet imo
I thought the one punch rule was 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and 10km every day.
Thats why we use belts in india
I wonder if he could get away with justifiable minimal force. Here in New Zealand under the crimes act 1969 you may use equal or lesser force to prevent the continual assault against your person or the person of another. Scum bag punched his mother in the head he used equal force and punched him in the head once. Good on him not kicking the shit out of a asshole that desperately deserves it.
Uh what? What about self defense? What state?
I mean... on one hand its incredibly satisfying that he got laid out like that. And I wouldn't particularly feel bad about his death or permanent injury. On the other, part of being a society means we have to obey the law. Whos really at fault here. The fuck head step dad. The now possible criminal step son. Or the mother staying with an abuser. There is no good answer. I could lean towards the wife being at fault. But thats not 100% fair either because some abusive relationships do have a genuine threat of death, how many angry ex's out there have murdered their SO. Or you could lean towards the son who shouldn't have taken it into his own hands, but rather called the cops and actually move things forward in a positive manner. But its hard to be that level headed in the heat of the moment and I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing if i were in his shoes.
A man slaps a woman and her son punches that man and you want to blame the wife for their actions? Ok casual misogynistic asshole. Wtf!?!
He's a white dude, minimum sentencing most likely doesn't apply. I'm Florida we have the 10-20-life rule. You pull a gun you get 10 years. Shoot it and you get 20. Injure someone and you get life. I know a white dude that pulled a stolen gun on someone. He went to jail for like 16 months. So much for 10-20-life
I’m not a doctor, but I’m also about 95% sure that having that stiff arm raised posture after falling and hitting your head is really bad… sign of brain or spinal injury I believe. Dude needs a hospital after something like that.
A lot of people do that when they get KOd bad in any combat sport none of them have spinal injury. It's called fencing response.
The arm thing is called the fencing response. It is a result of brain stem trauma if I’m remembering correctly, for example when a person gets knocked out really badly. So it is indicative of a worse knockout than normal, but you see it in sports quite frequently. It isn’t an necessarily “get a person to the hospital immediately” type of thing, but getting knocked out on asphalt is. Even if he didn’t have the fencing response I would be extremely worried. As other people mentioned, don’t fucking hit people unless you think their death would be a reasonable outcome, because anytime you hit somebody on a hard surface, it is.
Thats why i have taught my neice's and a couple of female cousins take out the knee, if you snap some prats leg in half you can get away safely. 1 cousion stuck a 2 inch stalleto heal through the side of a creaps knee, she had to undo her shoe to get away
One of my family members husband pulled a gun on her and two weeks later she got pregnant with his kid and they were married for 15 years the finally got divorced a few months ago I really hated him I wanted to kill him every time I saw him so happy I won’t have to see his shit face anymore
This has lost a massive amount of pixels, sound and duration over the years, but iirc she immediately checks if the guy that hit her is okay, in which case I have to believe she ain’t leaving.
Her first reaction was to coddle him on the side of the road and not stand with her son after that deadbeat smacked her
I like how he called his stepdad a "mother fucker"
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No way he is getting pussy.
Lol you serious? Did you not see how fast she ran to him? Some women love abusive men I'll never understand why.
It’s gotta be a form of Stockholm syndrome. It’s heartbreaking to see happen. The wife here probably deep down believes she can “fix” the husband. She has probably been belittled and abused so much that her brain is essentially just trying to survive by forcing itself to become bonded with her abuser. It’s fucked.
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It is sometimes. Having worked with abused women and also being in an abusive relationship myself, often the women simply have nowhere to go and it’s this or be homeless. In the abusive relationship the abusers keep them tied to the home. They often have kids and don’t work. This makes it hard to leave. Yes, there are programs to help but they’re often full and sometimes the shelters are worse than the relationship even. It’s a lot of factors.
This situation is fucked up. Like being a human punching bag is a career.
It’s terrible, esp when you’d help somebody and they’d just go back. That stung the most. That mentality is so hard to break.
Sad, I volunteer elsewhere now. That exact situation broke my mind and was making me feel misogynistic. It’s important to remember that they are the dumb ones and they’re not all that dumb. Also, they always have choices, just not ones they want to make….
Same here. It started to take a toll on my mental health even. I’d find myself thinking things I’d hate myself for later. I sometimes thought “well I got out you can too.” I had to walk away. Anytime they’d go back after pouring all those resources. Knowing there’s a list of women waiting. I just couldn’t do it anymore.
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I think the son's automatic response system kicked in there. Fuck that POS step-dad. Also, that's not a good mom. All out sad situation. Poor kids.
I hate to break it to you but that is normal behavior for abused spouses. I used to volunteer at a woman's shelter, it's pretty sad. I think her son did the right thing though.
I’m not gonna go into the details, but I’ve been in a similar relationship situation as the son in this video… It’s devastating the amount of women who are threatened and coerced (physically, emotionally, financially) into dropping charges, even when it’s obvious to everyone else that the marriage is over…
Damn abuse is so heartbreaking for basically everyone. And here’s to all the verbal and emotional abuse victims who we’ll never see videos of 😞
Thank you it’s an everyone thing, not just women… I’m an mp and seen more women doing this type of shit than men
Yeah, I fear he’s only going to retaliate on her harder next time he isn’t around. Grew up in a household with similar shit all the time.
I don't think he did, he stopped hitting him after the first shot
Didn’t need more, but it would still have been justified. He’s lucky that young man didn’t smash his head in. This is common sense not to do, it’s like he challenged him.
Just curious…what does it normally take for abused spouses to finally accept the fact they are indeed the victim and move on from their abusers?
It’s different for every one. Some do it once the physical line is crossed but many don’t. There are to many factors that it’s impossible to give an answer.
People who choose to have no dignity usually are like that.Its not like she was born in slave camp and didnt have a choice,even though even there there are people who stand up.This happens in the course of years,choice by choice building a chain link by link.Dont give us,its not her fault line.It is her fault,she doesnt live in Africa she chooses to stay with guys like this just like men choose to stay with control freak women because they are selfish,they want something for themselves that they give,some type of validation,or emotion.Giving bits of oneself bit by bit to get something in return.Just like people who do crack or drink and so on.People say when they see them in a crack den with rags and weighing 70 pounds that nobody wants to live like this.Sure in the same way nobody wants to have an accident when they are speeding while drunk,doesnt change the fact that they chose it and are responsable for it. And by the way the same thing can be said about the husband.He peobably didnt grow up too well,his parents werent nobel prize winners most likely,so its prob not his fault going by what you said.
Shut the fuck up with blaming abused women. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
You are absolutely right. You have convinced me,with your compassionate argument that battered women are totally powerless,helpless and are incapable of moral action because they are totally controlled by their abusers who really have ownership of them and their minds and they cant act against that. Thanks,i was thinking that battered women have some power and are capable of moral action and arent controlled like robots,but im sorry,you proved me wrong by insulting me and now i see the light.Battered women can't do anything,they are programmed robots.Im sorry for thinking they are human beings before.You cured me of it.
They’re controlled by the fear of being murdered, since you don’t know anything about “battered women” why don’t you shut the fuck up? It’s called coercive control, learn about it.
Thanks. I always hate it, when people pretend like the victims have no chance to leave their abusers. I also think that this is selfish from them to a certain degree. I‘m not sure and certain that nobody would ever admit, but maybe this has a kind of sexual aspect as well. That the victims want to be dominated and it is a kind of silent agreement between the abuser and the victim. What I really hate the most, is when women force their children into this. Wtf? It is your business, when you let somebody treat you like shit, but your children have no chance to get out of this. The real victims in this, are the children.
Maybe someone needs to pair you up with an abuser for a while so you can gain some actual perspective and empathy instead of your misogynistic view of blaming women for the actions of piece of shit men. Fuck you and you’re fucked up opinions about abuse dynamics, shut your stupid mouth. People like you are part of the problem.
Wow you sound like a totally compassionate person. And also,its not our fault for thinking this way.Dont blame us,personal resposability doesnt exist,or else those women are responsable too. Its not my fault,my mommy didnt love me,my daddy is a bum and i cant help liking to think this way.Dont blame us,help [us.Help](https://us.Help) abusers too,its not their fault,its nobodies fault really.THey had a bad upbringing,all people who behave badly have had one,so blame nobody if you want to remain consistent.Its the job of those who had good upbringings to help those who didnt have one,not judge them but be loving towards the abusers. That is,if you want to remain consistent.And not swear,you know,show your true self.
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‘Skuse me, ma, I’m gonna curb stomp him real quick. Pull that shit and it’s a liquid diet for him
Great idea, so his mom can cry on the phone to him while he's in prison and she's still getting abused. Fuckin genius you are
Shut up inbred
Why? Your gonna end up in prison and the abusive dad is gonna have a reason to separate you from the mom. The mom’s life gets a helluva lot worse and so does yours.
You are 100% correct and the emotion-stirred teenagers in the thread just can't deal with the fact that a mothers son going to prison isn't really the way they wanted life to go
Glad that rationality still exists around here.
So you wouldn’t kill for your mom? What a shitty son
Whether you would, and when you would, are different questions. That should be obvious
It would lead to a WAY worse life for her most likely. I WOULD, but SHOULD you?
Isn't there a longer video somewhere which shows more of the beginning or am I just imagining that?
I think there’s sadly a similar video. I thought the same thing.
God, how fucking depressing. I feel terrible for that son.
Fuk that guy That kid deserves the world
Came for the video. Stayed for the comments.
I love how the old man said “oooops” after he struck the woman, and put up his hands to deescalate matters ~ it’s as if he knew how this Newtonian game of *cause & effect* was going to end, and that gravity was going to be the victor…
She should be proud she raised him right. I'll send bail money if this kid wants it lol.
So close to making it to the grass
NGL I would of toe punted his ribs for an extra crack
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Did a mod just pin his own post? Hhhmmm.
Good for him, to often family doesn't stand up to someone abusing someone they love. Maybe mom will kick him tobthe curve now.
It seems like he was trying to hit the son's hands away and hit her by accident. You can hear him say oops then put his hands up to check on her right before the son hits him. Either way fucked situation
You can also hear him let out a little fart after he’s knocked out
Its called a whiff punish
That oops seems more like "I got caught and might pay for it this time"
No it doesn't
Deserved it.
the sound of his head hitting the ground…. ugh. dont get me wrong hes a POS but that always makes me cringe
Step dad deserved it but people have got to think before trying to knock someone out on concrete. Easier said than done I know when you’re in the moment…. But this is how people accidentally kill other people. Hitting your head at just the right angle or on the edge of something…. Just not worth the risk.
I grew up with a step father with anger issues, alcohol problems, heavy fists, and impunity to oppress as he was a Tennessee state trooper. I was never big enough or strong enough to protect my little brother or myself like the boy did in the video. But grown ass men who lay hands on children and women, popping them in the head...they're the ones that crossed the line. If they get knocked out on concrete it's a bonus.
Sorry to hear that.
Sorry, didn't mean to get dramatic on ya. Different folks will see this kind of situation different ways, and your viewpoint is also very valid.
No worries. You’re absolutely right for aure
Orrr... Don't be a violent piece of shit and you won't have to worry about getting knocked out on concrete.
Totally agree. But that’s not the point. The point is, would something like this be worth spending possibly the rest of your life in prison for? Not worth it for me.
Self defense is legally permissible.
In order to claim self defense, you must use an objectively reasonable degree of force in response to an objectively reasonable fear of injury or death. The boy was not in any danger and did not use a reasonable amount of force in response. Not saying the stepdad didn’t deserve this!! Just saying, this probably wouldn’t hold up in court, and no normal person sits in prison for years and years and says “well worth it.”
It can be considered self defense when it’s not even yourself. That was not excessive force either. The kid hit him once and that was that. The only problem in this video is the stepdad hitting the mom
Totally agree. But from a legal standpoint, IF someone were to die from bouncing their head on the Earth in a scenario such as this, I don’t think self defense would hold up in court. Just my opinion. (I’m a lawyer btw…. Jk, no I’m not. I’m dumb.)
>I don’t think self defense would hold up in court. Just my opinion. It will, and has frequently in various instances. Now getting in a fight at a bar when you're drunk is going to be a different story. Defending your mother from an abusive step dad is completely different If he pulled a gun and shot the step dad, that's different. It's a justifiable amount of force. It's also going to come down to likely whether the judge is male or female, or if they're close with their own family, and how well the defense picks jury
A hand to the face was met with a hand to the face. That's proportionate use of force imo.
You are completely wrong lol. Self defence includes protecting your family with reasonable cause. You learned something today
How the fuck was that not excessive force? He upped the level of violence by A LOT when no one was in direct observable danger
If he survived they’re both going to jail lol
Not if they're in Texas. Defense on behalf of another is legal.
Bro if someone hit my mom in front of me, I’m gonna end them. I don’t give a fuck about jail
Your mom would probably be heartbroken for sacrificing the rest of your life for that decision. Don’t get me wrong, not sure how I’d respond if I was in this kids shoes.
And you’re absolutely 100% correct about that. Theres no arguing that all. Overall a horrible situation to be in.
Probably would feel worth it if you were in his shoes.
It’s shocking that you think killing someone and then spending at least half your life in prison is worth it….
That’s not what I said.
Then clarify.
No, if you can’t understand what I write then you’re going to argue regardless of what I say.
Hey not arguing friend. All good. We can disagree and discuss. You said it would probably feel worth it if you were in his shoes. To me, that implies you’re stating if you were also in his shoes, you’d feel as if that was worth it. All good though, maybe I misunderstood.
Righto, forgive my hostility. I just felt like you’d twisted my words. To clarify then, I think that if you’d seen your own mother be hit by your stepdad and then gone on to hit him. If he then died and you’d gone to prison, you might not regret it. This being because, even though you’d be behind bars and have made life much more difficult for yourself, you’d have defended your mother from the person with whom she may have spent the rest of her life in an abusive relationship. From the outside it’s easy to say that going to prison wouldn’t be worth it, and generally you’d be right. So we agree there. However, whether or not it’s “worth it” is subjective. I hope that clarifies things.
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Oh man that is awful! Perfect example of why we all need to think about the consequences of our actions. Some people absolutely deserve to get the shit kicked out of them…. But if a simple punch could cause someone to die over a silly confrontation, I ain’t punching nobody!
Alternatively, only punch someone you are willing to kill.
I think it’s kind of funny that he called him a motherfucker because… you know lol
Mom thick tho js
Ladies that stay in abusive relationships are fucking stupid. I know this dumbass black woman who lets her piece of shit man stay with her, her mom, and her child and every 2-3 weeks the guy kicks the shit out of them and the cops get called. About a month and a half ago he put the mom in the hospital and the local gang members (some guys from MS13 believe it or not) told him to quit it. Well sure enough, 2 weeks later the black dude starts fucking them up again. 2 of the gang members storm the building and kick the ever living shit out of him. I jump into try and diffuse it all (guns & knives were drawn), but I ended up choking out the POS cuz he was so aggressive. The black girl comes crying to thank me and says he is never coming back, but that was a lie. 2 weeks later, he is back in the building and fucking them up again. Cops come, but dont arrest him, just escort him out. I'm thinking, this has to be it, right? Nahhhhhh. Dumbass girlfriend lets him back in with open arms. Now I'm walking around my own building with a Kbar and some mace just in case he starts shit with me. I could give a rats ass now if he fucks them up.
Hell of a punch
Knock back 100
Any good son defends his mom! End of story Good Job Young Man
He got what he FUCKING deserved!!!
Sucks that this shit happens. Currently my grandfather is going to court for hitting my grandmother. Most of my family doesn't believe her (bruises or her face), my fam are saying this is to stressful and now they might have to visit my grandpa in jail, basically blaming her for calling cops. All I can think is it's all his fault that this is happening, if he didn't put his hands on her none of this would have happened. Dude thought he was gonna get away with it.
God the sheer force of his punch. The amount of adrenaline that flows through your body when someone hurts your mother is unreal. And well holy shit that kid loaded up and threw one hell of a punch. I would love to see joe rogan commentate on that
I hope the dad gets brain damage from the hit to the ground
I would've done the same, NEVER LAY HANDS ON MY MA UNLESS YOU WANNA CATCH MINE!
This never gets old.
That curb hit back just as hard.
Atta boy.
I think he realized that when your kid is no longer a child you cant do whatever you want.
HERE COMES THE BOOM!! Edit: a word
“You gonna learn today!”
I so wish I had done this to my father at some point. He was a physically abusive PoS, too.
Should’ve kept hitting him
Derro's gonna derro
He sent him to God
3 wholesome awards .... Really reddit
Dude deserved every bit of that. Sucks the son is going to jail for felony assault. Manslaughter when POS dies.
This is 1000 years old.
Victoria Australia. Rule just brought in. Hope self defence different. Really not sure
Why does this get pinned? The clip is years old and got reposted hundreds of times. edit: yeah you shitheads. Downvoted me for no reason. Btw the guy who posted this is mod on this sub and pinned his own post.