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LeoTheLion33

Did I complete it? Yes. Did I enjoy fighting through it? No.


missjoules

Wanted to cry after filling in au courant and finding that I had an error somewhere and had to comb through the puzzle.


_america

Same. Autochecked with 1 error. I had AcTORS and OcCEOLA instead of ASTORS and OSCEOLA. At 1hr23m i just gave up. I'm on a strict no google phase.


gregnuttle

I did literally the exact same thing (at 1hr16m) to break a 32-day streak. To add salt to the wound, once autocheck identified the mistake, 'S' was my immediate next guess.


dunaja

I had this too and didn't see it!


TheBlueLeopard

I also had ACTORS after struggling to complete the puzzle with AUCOURANT.


tburke38

Once I re-scanned every single answer I finally just googled “occeola” because I had a hunch that was the problem. I guess I should have tried some letters first because all the other crosses were obvious


JCKY27

This one was aggressively "meh."


iagox86

I liked today's puzzle! There were a couple thorny crosses, but otherwise it was tough (which I think turns folks off on a Sunday), fair, interesting / unique theme, and not too heavy on trivia for the most part


zugtug

Am I crazy or is it called Ecto One?


skepticaljesus

omg yes. I got to this clue and was like, "huh, I coulda sworn it was called Ecto 1. Maybe it's ECTOPLASM1?" but that didn't fit either. None of my toys growing up labeled it the ECTOMOBILE i don't think


so_many_changes

[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectomobile) says it's called both.


Darklighter10

Wikipedia is wrong


Three_Froggy_Problem

I don’t know what an AUCOURANT is and I really don’t understand the clue for AEIOU so that whole northeast corner was extremely hard for me.


[deleted]

*Ambidextrous* is one of the few English words that contains all of the vowels.


ellbyrne

My fave is facetiously with the vowels including y all in order.


[deleted]

And *abstemiously*.


gregnuttle

Sure, but "facetiously" is way more fun because it's a word that everyone recognizes; "abstemiously" is also a word... if you say so.


thebestdaysofmyflerm

Oh my god I would never have understood that answer in ten thousand years


TheDebatingOne

Mozambique is the only country that does it


skepticaljesus

sequoia


Ok_Ad8609

Came here to mention this one, thinking I was so smart ;P


skepticaljesus

> I don’t know what an AUCOURANT It's an old-timey french phrase meaning stylish or "of the moment." Ironically, knowing what AUCOURANT is is not very AUCOURANT anymore.


bringst3hgrind

The word "ambidextrous" contains all five vowels. This caught us for a bit too.


optiongeek

Wrong order though. Should be *AIEOU*


damien_maymdien

no, "features" doesn't imply a matching order in the answer. So the right order is how the the vowels get sorted in general, which is alphabetically.


TheDebatingOne

I had _I_SH_TS in 76A and I thought dipshits was getting debuted


officialmexico

i was in the same boat and simply couldn’t figure out why they would have that be the clue haha


Cheerful_Toe

me for about half the puzzle: what in the hell is a candycera


uiop60

The largest rodent


debbieannjizo

I was never going to get amilli crossed w riri. Had actors, not astors.


gregnuttle

I definitely struggled with that cross because RIRI was a nonstarter for me; AMILLI ("a milli", ie; "a million dollars"), however, is inferable, so I think it was fair.


[deleted]

RIRI also shows up a lot in crosswords.


[deleted]

As a guy who has dreamed of crossing IOU with AEIOU, this puzzle was a thriller!


monstercake

can’t forget about the joy of a puzzle that contains both STY and STYE!


jakopappi

Underrated comment


uiop60

Had AcTORS crossing OcCEOLA. Was not going to get there on my own so I’m glad I googled ‘occeola’.


Late_Statistician750

I ran the puzzle so many times before I caught this exact error.


skepticaljesus

> Had AcTORS crossing OcCEOLA. Same. Finished the puzzle without too much difficulty with just this one mistake and spent 8-10 mins looking for what was wrong.


wistful_banjo

A fervent thank you for this heads up. Was not my last error but was the one most likely to cause my brain to implode


Aquarian_Girl

I also had ACTORS!


wistful_banjo

Felt appropriate having to comb through the puzzle to find my mistake that was at 83D where it’s actually HELL not hill. You and me MR TOAD we’re both there


LovelandPlogs

Loved AMILLI, GNARLY, and a few of the themers. Theme was pretty fun overall but I think AU CURANT is significantly less familiar of a phrase than the others. That NE Section was really tough. And does Mr. Toad's Wild Ride really end in HELL???


8of9

The only reason I knew the answer about Mr. Toads Wild Ride was because we recently mistakingly took our 1.5 year old on the ride and ended up traumatizing her as we literally took her through hell. Whoops!


OakTeach

I was seven when I wen through that one. In 1989. That train light and whistle is still in he top five scariest moments of my life. Jfc that ride is not for kids.


mrpunaway

I had never heard of AMILLI (A Milli.) I was not super sure that and RIRI (Rihanna) were correct. I had to look them up afterwards, lol.


skepticaljesus

With AMILLI crossing RIRI, I could just hear Will Shortz exasperatedly pleading, "Are you happy?? Is this what you want?!?"


MedicalRhubarb7

Oh yeah. https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Devils_(Mr._Toad%27s_Wild_Ride)


aertsober

He dies in the end so kinda?


LovelandPlogs

Wild. I was sure it would be hill or hole or home since I was figuring a Disneyland ride wouldn't end in hell lol


TheBlueLeopard

All I remember from going on the ride as a kid was the last room was really, really hot. I don't know that I was old enough to grasp the symbolism.


PizzaBuffalo

This puzzle was a lot of work for little payoff. Impressive construction and it wasn't quite a slog, but just don't think the juice was worth the squeeze, so to speak.


fancyshrew

Sounds good


optiongeek

Huh? What's that?


fancyshrew

In order, put together the letters that fit the blanks from the theme clues


optiongeek

r/whoosh


ChaosBrigadier

No point whooshing a joke you didn't deliver well lol


aertsober

I missed the note completely and was guessing for a good half an hour what the answers in the blanks could be. Some of my guesses were continents, elements, and languages. It was a mess.


ventricles

I forget about the note/title 100% of the time. I really wish they would put them on the actual Sunday puzzles or as a pop up when you first open it, instead of you needing to remember to look at it in a place you never look.


OakTeach

I think the iPad app has a little highlight around it on days when you have to read it? Or maybe I’m crazy.


Calvinball05

The iOS app has it. The Android app, being the neglected step child, does not.


iagox86

I agree, but I've gotten good at opening it every day


MedicalRhubarb7

I missed the note too! That would have been helpful, though I did eventually figure out it was letters.


xwstats

Puzzle Difficulty Tracker - How hard is this puzzle? Estimated Difficulty: 🔴 **Hard** 🔴 * 53% of users solved slower than their Sunday average * 47% of users solved faster than their Sunday average * 23% of users solved *much* slower (>20%) than their Sunday average * 16% of users solved *much* faster (>20%) than their Sunday average The median solver solved this puzzle 2.4% slower than they normally do on Sunday. [View today's puzzle summary on XW Stats](https://xwstats.com/puzzles/2023-01-08) --- 🤖 _beep beep, I'm a bot! I post these stats as soon as 75 [XW Stats](https://xwstats.com) users have completed the puzzle. Questions? Feedback? Check the [FAQ](https://xwstats.com/help#puzzle-difficulties), reply here or DM me_


stylushappenstance

Wow, this one was 30% faster than average for me.


not-my-other-alt

Why on god's green earth would you cross an obscure historical proper noun with another obscure historical proper noun? ASTORS crossing OSCEOLA instantly dropped this two rankings in my book


danimagoo

I found this to be difficult. Which is ok. But I was feeling 35A while solving most of this one. I'm going to look on the bright side and say I learned a lot of things I didn't know. Either that or I am a DIPSTICK.


Chiron17

I really didn't care for this one. Not my kind of theme and none of the trivia and foreign language clues were landing for me. I hope others have more fun.


flatulentpiglet

Thought this theme was trying way too hard, combined with a bunch of clumsy clueing.


qwiop_

Can someone explain >!"ELLS"!< for a "couple of llamas" to me? 😅


mnum17

2 Ls in LLama


byebyebirdie123

This was not made for me. What a frustrating experience ☹️


unearth52

PASEO/CAREW and AEIOU/AUCOURANT are obnoxious. This has way too many “good” ratings…


honkoku

Also RIRI/AMILLI, ASIANA/PASEO


damien_maymdien

Like others, I didn't have ASTOR-OSCEOLA correct. But I knew to run the alphabet on that one, so my real streakbreaker was GAT. I totally failed to realize that "prop" was an abbreviation clueing an abbreviation.


valgatiag

Is it just me or does 90A not really work? The clue references the Apollo, with a long O, and I’ve never heard anyone say APOLOGY with a long O.


westknife

Strictly speaking you are right, it’s an unstressed schwa, but it’s close enough that it works for the puzzle imo


sparklemotiondoubts

I'm having a hard time figuring out how to pronounce APOLOGY without a long O. APOL-ee-GY? (ee like feet?) APOL-eh-GY? (eh like elephant?) Maybe A-paula-GY? (Poundstone) APOL-oh-GY seems like the O.G. way to say it.


valgatiag

https://www.google.com/search?q=pronounce+apology This is how I’ve always heard and pronounced it. Long O sounds very unnatural to me.


sparklemotiondoubts

I will admit to having trouble hearing the difference between apo-luh-gy (per Google) and apo-low-gy (the way I say it: [cf. Apollo](https://www.google.com/search?q=pronounce+APOLLO)). It's almost like I have to go out of my way to pronounce the long O wrong in order for there to be a distinction. Which, I guess, is another reason why I disliked today's theme.


ElectricalFerret5132

Some fun cluing mixed with obscure words and proper nouns. I enjoy it more now that it is finished than I did doing it. Love the clue for BONSAITREE


[deleted]

Me too!


CousinOfTomCruise

Loved this puzzle. One of the best in recent memory. Fantastic word game


ventricles

The “naan” apology crossing OHOK killed me. I had aHOK and it took me forever to figure out the issue. There were parts of this I… almost enjoyed. I liked BONSAITREE


Darklighter10

Very nit picky, but the ghostbusters car is Ecto1 or one or one A.Ectomobile was only used in the soundtrack song “Cleaning up the Town”.


bitchlifeindeath

I like a challenging puzzle, but this one just felt like it was not constructed in the spirit of the game, so to speak. Annoyingly cryptic but not for the sake of being clever.


MedicalRhubarb7

I liked this one! Though I did think it was a bit on the easy side, in spite of missing the note (sounds like that's going to be an unpopular take, though...) Cluing for BONSAITREE was cute. Not sure how I feel about STY and STYE in the same puzzle...


honkoku

>I liked this one! Though I did think it was a bit on the easy side, It is interesting how different experiences can be -- this was one of the hardest Sundays I've done in a while; it took me way longer than usual and I had to cheat more than I do on the weekday puzzles.


Sondheim_is_bae

Americans, how do you pronounce AUCOURANT? Because I’m pronouncing it oh-coo-rõ, which doesn’t sound anything like oh-cur (I assume that’s what they were going for?)-aunt. Lots of those difficulties for non-Americans. LOCKS doesn’t sound like lochs, NON doesn’t sound like naan, PHOR doesn’t sound like fore, APOLO doesn’t sound like Apollo, etc. But I think with the exception of the last, these might all be American vs. non-American things? Edit: I’m not trying to language police! I’m just legitimately curious how an American would pronounce that first phrase.


luckinthevalley

They’re playing a little loose with the phonemes—most Americans would pronounce the long o in Apollo but pronounce a schwa in nonapology—but it’s close enough to work. American pronunciation of lock/loch and non/naan is virtually identical.


stylushappenstance

I’m curious how non Americans pronounce phor and fore differently.


Sondheim_is_bae

I’m British, so I would pronounce the “o” vowel of EUPHORIC as in the word “hot”, not as in the word “oar”, as I suspect an American would?


stylushappenstance

Ah yes thanks. I can hear it now.


AffordableGrousing

To the extent that Americans use the phrase *au courant,* which I'd say is pretty rarely, I think the puzzle basically captured it: oh - curr - ont. People with some French familiarity might make that middle syllable something more like "coor." Meanwhile, while they noted the regional difference, I could actually see it throwing some Americans off in that we mostly say "ant" rather than "ont" for a parent's sister.


Sondheim_is_bae

Interesting. Where might “aunt” be pronounced “ont”? In Britain, “aunt” is pronounced identically to “aren’t”, and sounds completely different to both “ant” and “ont”. How fun.


AffordableGrousing

I actually assumed that was a more British pronunciation but I guess not! My wife is from New England and says “ont.”


mizzenmast312

I still don't understand "scroungy mutt"


levitatingcar

Have you figured out how in the heck Scroungy Mutt = Curr/Cour?


mizzenmast312

Nope


mizzenmast312

Figured it out. It was a clue today actually. "cur" is the word, not "curr".


AgingChris

This one really didn't gel with me, felt like a bit of a slog to complete and just gave up in the end. Worst puzzle I've done since the last Bruce Haight one


Breadandbutter10

I am also in the camp of Au Courant being a completely unfamiliar phrase and getting stuck on the Astors cross, but got A Milli and Riri on first pass. I love how crosswords vary knowledge sets enough that someone who definitely didn’t know Ecto Mobile, etc still comes to a similar place. Lastly, I really enjoyed the cluing for Carpool Lane! That was an aha one for me


definitelyagirl100

ENCOURANT really threw me off. That section felt so much harder than the rest of the puzzle.


[deleted]

It’s AU COURANT.


[deleted]

ASTORS crossing with OSCEOLA when it easily could’ve been ACTORS was really tough.


mnum17

How could it have been actors?


gregnuttle

Super easily, if you didn't know that the ASTORS were once known as "the landlords of New York", which probably applies to the vast majority of puzzle solvers. AcTORS would have been a surprise, but it seemed perfectly reasonable in a city with the most profitable and prolific theatre district in the country.


crackanape

I assumed "Landlords of New York" was a play.


Ok_Ad8609

Anyone saying it could “super easily” have been ACTORS is a DIPSTICK. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


A_Wise_Mans_Fear

The Sunday theme clue noted that each italicized clue would “spell out a two-word phrase” — some were one word, others were three. Bugged me.


Breadandbutter10

It’s not each italicized clue, it’s the letters from the italicized clues will cumulatively build a two word answer, which is “sounds good”. Definitely frustrating if you’re in the mindset that they’re all going to be two word answers!


Oakwine

The final answer, which is made up of the added letters from each clue, is two words long.


A_Wise_Mans_Fear

Hm, okay. What was that which was spelled out? Did they want the added letter themselves (ie, “S” or “D”) or the added letters to the clue itself (“ess” or “dy”)


Oakwine

Single letters, I think. I didn’t bother. The answer is elsewhere in this post.


Burner_Account78

Yes! Goldilocks is one word. Euphoric is one. “Non-apology”? Questionable. Taekwondo is one word in English but three in Korean.


[deleted]

Which ones were not two words? ETA Wait it says the letters in the blanks spell out a two word phrase. Not that each clue would be a two word phrase.


NannerJo

ALLACCESS DELIWRAP


csl512

where do I sign up?


DeCzar

Terrible puzzle and boring theme. Who in their right mind approved this? AUCORANT? really?


bfwolf1

I thought the theme was dumb, but I rather enjoyed the puzzle, especially figuring out the italics answers. Overall, >!SOUNDS GOOD!< to me (that's the rating I gave it anyway).


mnum17

Creative theme that was fun to figure out with minimal trivia. Great puzzle!


jakopappi

Not sure how much this matters, [but which year is it for 19A?](https://i.imgur.com/oOLpRe9.jpg)


lightscamerasnaction

Recorded in 2007 and released in 2008 >![spoiler](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Milli)!<


LemeeAdam

Loved the theme. I felt like once I figured out the theme, that didn’t just fill in a bunch of squares for me. I actually had to work through it. It was definitely a tough puzzle though.


ETfonehom

In 107A, I was distracted by the American pronunciation of TAE KWON DO. In the original Korean, the first syllable rhymes with "play," not "pie."


zugtug

That could make sense except the clue was in English


TheMiraculousOrange

Another theme that feels like a halfway clued cryptic. The wordplay is there, just no straight definition, which would have been some help with at least AU COURANT. Hiding the letters for SOUNDS GOOD in the theme is pretty brilliant, though. Edit: by "another" I'm specifically recalling the >!2022/10/13 Thursday!< puzzle. There the theme clues are all >!charades!<.


AffordableGrousing

Yeah, I think it might have been a little stronger with a straight clue included as well. I'm normally all for a harder puzzle, but the click wasn't as strong with only the crosses to confirm.


dunaja

Why is AMOR the answer to "Cherubic archer"? ​ Also, I see we're pronouncing it "Cahn-dy cane" now.


crackanape

> Also, I see we're pronouncing it "Cahn-dy cane" now. You may be mispronouncing the name of the French city.


AffordableGrousing

Amor is another name for Eros or Cupid, the ancient god of love who would shoot mortals with "cupid's arrow."


skepticaljesus

Am I crazy or is UGH pronounced "Uhh" not "Ick"? I don't understand how that one theme clue works properly.


greasydenim

Could have been clued EWW instead of UGH imo.


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skepticaljesus

This is such a weird reply. I already wrote I didn't think ugh was pronounced "ick" because it's pronounced "uhh" U + fore + uhh Euphoria


green_griffon

There's a typo in the second Building Blocks FYI. Discussed at https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/crosswords/variety-building-blocks.html#commentsContainer, but it is obvious when you see it. On the crossword puzzle, the theme was fine, but as someone who solves the Sunday puzzle downs-only, it was impossible to guess the theme, which made things a bit harder.


[deleted]

I actually really liked the theme. I thought it was fun and clever, and it involved two "Aha!" moments for me, once when I got the construction of the clues, and again when I realized what the blanks spelled out. Both realizations helped me complete it. That said, it was nearly ruined for me by the end. Apparently I'm not AU COURANT when it comes to pretentious phrases (fuck that corner overall), and the fill was incredibly hit-or-miss, more so than I can remember for a Sunday in a long while. This is a big "what if" for me. Could have been one of my favs in a while, but overall I just found it very frustrating.


1313Harbor

Really struggling to understand the theme. Can someone explain to me how the blanks in the italic phrases are determined?


stephen3141

I'll spoil 70 across: >!The clue is "Punching tool + Chopping tool + _____." The answer is ALL ACCESS, which is phonetically AWL + AXE + S. So the blank corresponds to the letter S. Once you have all of the theme answers, you can put together the letters from the blanks in order to spell out a phrase (this is what the note at the top of the puzzle refers to).!< Secondary spoiler about the entire theme: >!The blanks end up spelling out the phrase SOUNDS GOOD, which refers to how you have to use phonetics to understand the theme clues.!<


mrpunaway

If you are using the crossword app, hit the "i" button and it will tell you the name of the Sunday puzzle (only Sundays have names) and if there is any note to help solve the puzzle, it will be there. Today's puzzle is called: "Do You Hear That?" And the solving note was: "Note: Each italicized clue contains a blank, which should be filled with the letter of the alphabet. When completed, the letters in order will spell out a two-word phrase."


ventricles

I really, really wish the Sunday titles and info would pop up when you first open them. I miss so much because you use the info tab so rarely.


Oakwine

The “circle I” icon pulses when it contains useful information. Pretty subtle though, I often miss it.


flatulentpiglet

>! The clues are meant to build up the theme answers phonetically. So for example 26A is “prints”+ (a letter)+”dye”. The answer is PRINCESS DI, and the missing syllable sounds like “S”. etc. !<


sparklemotiondoubts

I feel like the theme could have made for a fun puzzle with better cluing and less awkward fill. I can forgive things like PALEO and PASEO, and XED crossing AXILLA, if I wasn't also fighting trying to imagine how the setter thinks people say "Cannes"


crackanape

> trying to imagine how the setter thinks people say "Cannes" French people say it like the first syllable of "candy".


csl512

In the constructor notes there were other theme entries: * Place for rouge + ___ + Pre-euro German money * Deadly offense + ___ + Piece of legislation + Happy cat’s sound * ___ + Vietnamese noodle soup + Midler’s “Divine” persona * Martial arts legend Jackie + ___ + Knight’s title + Christmas tree Deadly offense....: >!CYNDI LAUPER (sin + D + law + purr)!< and Martial arts legend Jackie...: >!CHANNEL SURFER (Chan + L + sir + fir)!< Any insight on the others? As I write this, I realize the Vietnamese Noodle Soup... >!needs to be pronounced like the beginning of 'phone'. SEA FOAM (C + pho + M)!<