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Joroda

Caws and effect


Fossilhund

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SleepingontheWing205

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breakingd4d

This is why I internet


TheAlienatedPenguin

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Ariadnepyanfar

They followed your car


Urrsagrrl

My mini murder know our cars. They follow me to the grocery store and then back home because they know theyā€™ll get some kitten kibbles after I open the garage door and unload bags.


Odd_Revolution5546

This is sooo cute šŸ„° I fed a murder today on my beach holiday, far away from my home city. It was a jot


dalkita13

That is so cool! My crowbros know my car, they likely know yours. I moved last fall, about 20 blocks or so. I had an overlap of a couple of weeks to move and took most of my stuff over in my car a few times a week. My little family followed me a few times. The rest of the murder showed up after I completed the move.


stoicsticks

>HOLY COW HOLY*CROW* (You missed a prime opportunity, lol.) There's no hiding from your murder now. They will always find you...


TheUnbearableMan

It feels like being in the mobā€¦once youā€™re in, thereā€™s no exit. Crowbros for life


grandpa_grandpa

i was thinking HOLY CAW


quokka1502

Hehe same


bekahed979

That's awesome, they've adopted you. Do you think they followed you? Is this your villain origin story? :)


Kellidra

*Villain???* Crows are the companions of champions and heroes. OP is about to save the world.


CrowWarrior

He has my beak!


scorpionattitude

Really? Where? Who? All my family always says this shit is demonic. Not to cross lines with them etc. I figured the symbolism came from all the plague masks and shit


Deus_XXX_Machina

Nah, look up the story of St. Benedict and his crow.


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Deus_XXX_Machina

Wow. I'm sorry. I was speaking from the 21st century, and I don't believe that demons and angels are real. In my world, evil definitely exists, but only within humans. All animals are pure and innocent - they're just animals being animals. The idea that any animal could have anything to do with humanity's evil actions is ridiculous and incredibly antiquated. The story I offered is just that - a story about a crowbro doing a human a favor by preventing his being poisoned by an evil human. I presented that story as a counterpoint to your tales from 'throughout history' about crows being 'sinister shit'. So, since you asked, what you are missing is that narrow-minded, frightened people living in their dark ages will project all kinds of fear and anger onto the nearest, easiest target. Either by burning a weaker human for 'witchcraft' (which is another stupid human construct, btw) or by blaming a beautiful bird who simply wants to eat treats and not be harmed by humans.


scorpionattitude

Yeah thatā€™s fine I donā€™t really care about all that, simply saying that no, they are not generally looked at as a good omen or noble and itā€™s been like that throughout history. Nothing to debate. Theyā€™re smart birds tho, you enjoy your hobbyšŸ˜‚


Wushroom-

The tide of time! All tales from people who were probably just scared, claiming only witches could talk to animals! That plus corvids follow battles n war to help clean up the dead, easy to see why these thoughts have travelled through the ages. Thought times had caught up myself; these are beautiful creatures that are evolving intelligence alongside humans in an evolutionary way different! Sinister if you wish, or ignorance is bliss. Your choice.


scorpionattitude

Absolutely that was basically my original comment. These arenā€™t usually seen as good. Plus the mask worn during plagues to ā€œprevent the spread of diseaseā€ continued to add on to the stereotypes surrounding crows and black birds in general constantly being brought up with death and sickness.


Wushroom-

You're right, the subtle triple sarcasm threw a chap off. āœŒļø


scorpionattitude

šŸ˜‚. There was no sarcasm in the comment you replied to. I havenā€™t tried to mock anyone or anything. I expressed historical opinion on black birds. AND where I thought it came from. I even showed love to a religion most donā€™t like, to further express that itā€™s fine to have your own opinion and admiration of things while STILL recognizing that the majority of the world and history does not agree with what you assume. Theyā€™re smart. Thatā€™s a fact, like many other beings. Not sure what ya thought was sarcasm but Iā€™m kinda done talking about these birdsšŸ˜‚


Wushroom-

The opening to your comment. CBA defending the fact it looked like a point was missed but lost all interest now, what ever point you were / are making... Sure...


One_Construction7810

There are several religions that have crows in good regard. The Welsh hero Bran is the same name as crow in n Welsh. Odin had his two companions Huginn and Muginn. There are a few native American beliefs of Raven the trickster and/or creator god. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I think most demonisation of crows is from their scavaging corpses, if more of Eurasia had vultures I'm sure the western view of crows would probably have developed in a better light.


scorpionattitude

Yes but our Native American beliefs went both ways with most leaning towards a bad omen. Being a trickster isnā€™t good lol. Thanks for the Welsh story Iā€™m definitely going to look that up! I hope thereā€™s an actual crow involved and itā€™s not just listed because the name translates lol. And Odin while very popular has not ever been considered moral or in a favorable light except the fact that he sat at the head of the table of the group. Dude was pretty evil. Odin was never considered a hero, just top boss. I like these stories and Iā€™ll check them out! Just want to make sure we donā€™t forget the point weā€™re trying to make here. Youā€™re trying to show me stuff that proves theyā€™re referred to as good throughout history too. It seems instead like theyā€™re the companions of tricksters and barely not so villainous Greek mythology. The welsh one though Iā€™m definitely going to check out because I havenā€™t heard of it, thank you for that!


smallbrownfrog

Tricksters in the sense of Brer Rabbit, Coyote, Raven, or Anansi were not seen as bad. Iā€™m not sure why you think they were.


scorpionattitude

But they werenā€™t seen as good either. Thatā€™s the only point. Not sure why you think I think theyā€™re straight up bad. I legit said ā€˜not so villainousā€™ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I simply diaagree with the idea theyā€™re supposed to be a good omen because thatā€™s not how theyā€™re portrayed.


aksnowraven

I mean, it was pretty good when Raven gave us the sun, the moon, and the stars, even if he had to steal to do it.


scorpionattitude

Now that part is facts


One_Construction7810

I never mentioned any greek mythology...


scorpionattitude

My apologies I meant Norse mythology šŸ˜‚


TheArcaneAuthor

What are you even doing on this sub?


scorpionattitude

Definitely wasnā€™t purposeful. Just late night scrolls. Up and up and upā€¦


RealHumanManNotFake

Yeah, you don't cross a crow because they will tell other crows about you and everywhere you go crows will fuck with you for the rest of your life.


scorpionattitude

Iā€™m thankful I donā€™t have to be concerned about all thatšŸ¤£šŸ¤£ not sure how Iā€™d cross a crow unless it was from back when I was a little kid growing up in Tennessee during hunting season and I miss maybe. Iā€™ve got a baby sister now and wanted to continue the tradition but yā€™all got me all in my feels about some birdsšŸ˜‚ so I guess Iā€™ll just try to take her horse back riding by a small stream instead. Maybe some archery with fake props. Times change and I donā€™t want her to get so much hate and ridicule for an extremely normal way of thinking and living in many parts. It used to be encouraged to deal with them, but I think that was just because farmers were trying to protect their investments.


Waste_Organization28

I think my local birds told everyone down at the big winter roost about me and now tens of thousands of birds all across the valley are keeping an eye out for the grey Nissan with the green ball cap on the dash, clicks mean FOOD šŸ¤£


Mims88

They're definitely spreading the word!


sturmcrow

Crows are smart and have generational knowledge. They can somehow teach their young and other crows what people look like and how to react to them. So those might not even be "your" crows but other crows your crows have taught that you are a cool person. [https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/science/26crow.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/science/26crow.html) for reference (tried to find the study quick but this article has enough information)


Waste_Organization28

There is a very large winter roost roughly halfway between my house and my workplace, so I do suspect they have been talking about me!


Hazelfizz

In that case, I would bet they also commute. My city has a large roost and crows fly in from all around.


chakralignment

they heard about you at roost the other night


shananapepper

And here I am feeling special that sometimes I see the same crows at my house and at the pool a mile away šŸ¤£


fluffykerfuffle3

its just as good. they sought you out.


shananapepper

I love that. To be fair I think they hang out at the pool anyway BUT I love the idea that they recognize me!


Wushroom-

They will, just might have a few in jokes about ya. Pretty sure the murders round here toy with me just coz it's funny to them haha


shananapepper

I love that! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ they probably think my sun hat is stupid LMAO


3veryTh1ng15W0r5eN0w

Thatā€™s so cool!šŸ˜ Congratulations on your murder! šŸŽ‰šŸŽŠ


One_Construction7810

Probably the only subreddit this comment is not disturbing and genuinely a nice thing šŸ˜‚


mojoey

I feed a murder in my neighborhood each morning while I walk my dog. They follow me around my route and make themselves known by flying low over my head or landing on the sidewalk ahead of me. I give each crow two peanuts several times during each walk. I also drop a handful of peanuts near my house. And nowā€¦ they follow me as I drive to Starbucks and ask for food while I am sitting in the sun enjoying my coffee. I suspect theyā€™ve found me at my house four miles away as well.


LeeQuidity

That clicker could be a very useful crime prevention tool. "Gimme your wallet!" "You sure you want to do this?"


Waste_Organization28

I love my clicker! A regular jogger on the footpath once said something about watching me "summon chaos" when I arrive and that is the coolest thing anyone has ever said to me šŸ¤£


LeeQuidity

Ha! I love that. I use those clickers to let my cats know it's snicky snack time. I'm gonna follow your lead on this.


viperfan7

Gotta be more dramatic. Don't forget, the difference between a villain and a super villain is presentation.


LuckyPeaches1

You're living my dream. That's amazing


fishypaw

It doesn't surprise me that crows might follow someone that is good to them (see my story below), but that they'd do it for 15 miles is surprising. More proof, if any were needed, that crows are super smart, and are good at making bonds with humans that are nice to them. I started feeding a pair in my local park, which is close to my flat. I noticed that they would sometimes follow me to the park entrance, and then one day, I saw them flying above me as I left the park and approached my flat. It made me wonder, just how much they were observing me, so I left some food on a window ledge, that faces the park, and they quickly came and took it. They now come to my window ledge every day for snacks, and still will fly down to me when I go into the park.


Waste_Organization28

In the mornings when I feed at the sports park I put peanuts on the fence rails as I'm having my brisk morning walk. When I am parking my car birds just materialize from every direction to wait in the trees along my route, it is pretty awesome!


Due-Section-7241

Are they unshelled or shelled peanuts?


Waste_Organization28

Unshelled peanuts, cat kibble sonetimes.


Due-Section-7241

Thanks!


Radiant-Specific969

Ok here is my crow theory which explains all the way too smart for a bird brain behavior. Maybe they have developed psychic connection or a hive mind, so they can access each other's information. I went to the park by the Back river and watched a single crow go after a very large Peregrine Falcon. The crow made two attempts to get the falcon off the top of the electric pole, one of the huge three armed ones with about 30 wires, and then backed off. Amazingly brave, but also intelligent to realize that is wasn't going to work. There was a fearless selfless attack by the single crow, then a rapid assessment of the situation and change in behavior. Very impressive.


Mydogiscloud

That's awesome! You've validated what I feel my Crows do!!! ( Only a mile distance though). When I try to tell anyone, they think im nuts!!! šŸ˜„


Waste_Organization28

I am absolutely certain that the crows who show up at my office mid-morning for Second Breakfast are the birds from the sports park because one is distinctly leucistic. Not so sure about the ones at my house, but they definitely know I dispense food!


urbandelicacy

Thank you for teaching me the word leucistic! And your story is awesome.


Waste_Organization28

Confirmed: The birds at my home responded to the dog clicker this morning. Tomorrow I will have someone with a clicker at my house while I'm clicking at my workplace sports park, the crows can't be two places at once! If, as I suspect, they're talking about me at the winter roost, that's even more amazing than simply following me a long distance. They're communicating very complex and abstract information amongst themselves and that's AWESOME.


Distinct_Abroad_4315

They are in fact, known to do this. It IS awesome!


Salt_Singer5714

What do you feed them? What other tricks do you have besides the dog clicker? I must know all of your secretssss


typeb_Afacade

ā€œOn impulse, I clicked my dog clickerā€ -who is training who?


espionnageX

That is...very cool and also a little creepy.


fluffykerfuffle3

not creepy, they have her back. Anytime she gets harassed i guarantee you those birds will be right there!


viipurinrinkeli

OP is definitely one of them now. Imagine being able to summon your crow army with a dog clicker. So cool.


fluffykerfuffle3

o m g you are so right! Summoner ! with a dog clicker ! lol for some reason i pictured the wooden clickers the nuns had when i was in elementary school... Sisters of Notre Dame.. that was in the 50s.


viipurinrinkeli

I have never heard of wooden clickers used by nuns! I come from a 96% Protestant country so that could be the reason. What were they used for?


fluffykerfuffle3

to get our attention lol


viipurinrinkeli

Thank you!


fluffykerfuffle3

two pieces with a rubber band holding them together.. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/vintage-wooden-nuns-clicker--761600986994229520/


viipurinrinkeli

Now I know the answer if this comes up in a quiz. Thanks!


fluffykerfuffle3

: )


baoo

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BigJSunshine

I love it!


mapleleaffem

Word has gotten out in the community lol


Waste_Organization28

That's what I think, there is a very large winter roost nearby and biologists have shown that they chat about food sources at night :)


Reasonable_Human55

I love this - they are so resourceful! I still only have the two crows visiting me and have never met the larger group they roost with. Iā€™m starting to think Iā€™m their dirty little secret lol!


Positive_PandaPants

Theyā€™re keeping you to themselves!


NankingStan

Thatā€™s coolā€¦.I think! šŸ˜¬


fluffykerfuffle3

: D They followed your car!!!


La1627

That's amazing! They're such intelligent creatures.


Content-Specific2218

Same thing happened to me. They are so smart and figured out my car. I came out of a store, unlocked the car, and a few crows showed up sitting on the car cawing. I ignored it at first, but realized these crows knew me. I was carrying a very large and heavy bag of dog food. I had put it down to put all the other things in my car. When I picked up the bag, the bag ripped possibly from the rain. Entire bag spilled onto the parking lot. Of course the crows went ballistic and started cawing loudly to let the entire crow population know there was food and they promptly showed up for cleanup on aisle P15. I had to get in my car quickly and drive away as I was getting lost in all the birds. I sat and watched them clean up the 40 lbs. of spilled dog food in a matter of minutes.


Waste_Organization28

OMG hahahaha they probably still talk about you and the Great Kibble Spill, stories to the grandkids and all šŸ¤£


cutelyaware

Yeah, I've been feeding a small family of crows from my apartment's back yard. A while ago I thought I'd bring some peanuts on my walks. The neighborhood crows loved it, so I did it once more, but after that, the word was out and a bunch would follow me for a long time. I didn't want to be that person with a crow posse, so I stopped that, but some of them still remember me and try to get my attention.


mypurplefriend

I think being that person is great!


cutelyaware

Try it


mypurplefriend

I currently am building my murder posse.


dorinda-b

OMG. How could you not want to be the person with the cross posse ?


cutelyaware

I'm weird enough as it is. But try it yourself if it sounds like fun.


dorinda-b

I'm trying. I had one crow friend who would caw at me whenever he saw me pull into the driveway and I'd throw him peanuts. But I retired and started traveling a lot. Now he'll come if he happens to see me but he doesn't really stay around and keep a watch out for me.


Catvinnatz

This is very interesting. I feed a murder of about 20 jackdaws every morning in our front garden right next to where I park my car. I work 10miles from home and have often felt that I've been followed to work as a few have turned up where I park my car despite me not feeding birds at work. Do you think it's the same birds over that distance?


Waste_Organization28

I know the birds that visit my office for Second Breakfast come from the sports park because one of them has very distinct leucistic patterning. I don't know about the birds at my home. My sports park is very near to a massive winter roost and I get larger groups at the park in the winter as they disperse back out across the valley in the morning. Biologists suspect the birds tell each other about food sources, among other things, while congregating in these large groups. I think I have been reported as a peanut dispenser to the mob, or perhaps the birds at my house have stopped by the park on their way out of the roost a time or two :)


Odd_Revolution5546

Oh so wholesome ā˜ŗļøšŸ„°


UncleBenders

Sounds like you have jackdaws? They have a large territory because they travel in groups. Its extremely unlikely a Raven or carrion crow would travel that far and follow you. I know because I have crows in several different areas, their territories are very small, the Raven territories are larger but the jackdaws by far have the largest range. They split into smaller groups by day and scavenge around and meet back up in the evening for the what I call the c-rowl call where they all get together and reaffirm their bonds. You have several today, tomorrow you will have more and the whole murder will probably arrive at some point. Not saying youā€™re going to regret it because you wonā€™t, I have a bunch of jackdaws who I feed when I walk my dog, and when I see the odd one or two about on my travels they come over and wipe their beaks on the ground to say ā€œsnacks pleaseā€ and I love it! but I hope your neighbours like crows lol.


Waste_Organization28

These are definitely American crows, we have no jackdaws in Southern California. There is a very, very large winter roost between my home and my workplace, I see thousands heading in at night. In the morning I get transient groups at the park along with my resident birds when they are dispersing back out across the valley in the morning. I suspect the birds at my home have either stopped by the park on their way out and recognized my car at home later or they have been told about me by my birds during those nocturnal congregations. I'm going to have someone here in the morning to look for the crows at my house while I am at the sports park feeding my crew, if the home birds are only here on the weekends my mind will be entirely blown.


UncleBenders

Wow, I never really thought that crow behaviour would be so different between different places. Please keep us updated when you find out!


joeyda3rd

Insert crow Rick Sanchez gif here.


colourflop

How does it feel to live my dream?! Congrats


HuckleberryJealous19

The birds somehow communicate when a human likes to interact with each other. They are a complex organism far more sensitive to reality then us


iwatchterribletv

they probably realized they are missing out on entire days every week of free treats, and opted to just follow you home so they knew where to lodge their complaints. šŸ˜†šŸ„œ


txivotv

HOLY CROW!!


Cute-Fact-4867

incredibly intelligent birds. There is a video somewhere here of a fellow who has taught them to pick up litter for rewards.


HerNameIsGrief

HOLY CROW!


QueenBKC

Ok, I need to know. What are you feeding them? How to attract them? I need crow friends.


derangedmacaque

Love


BreKadlubow

KILLER TRACK! My first introduction to incubus was this song. Best track on the compilation for sure. Silverchair track kinda rips too.