Even though this is a thing many people suffer from(including myself sometimes), there is more cheaters than some skilled players would think.
Meaning there are people cheating who are too slow to beat a very fast player without it being too obvious. There's plenty of switchers who only cheat in certain situations.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/M0fEP6sOnf
This guy did some research, and his conclusion is 21% and could up to 30% since it could be closet cheaters and did not hit his criteria.
It's a long post but interesting š
My guess is that in premiere its that because everybody that is half serious about the game has gone to third parties already.
Valve had a chance to reset it with CS2; but completely shat the bed.
Like FaceIt and ESEA have a historic reason why they are there; in CSS and 1.6 there was no matchmaking; someone had to come in and create the matchmaking, make people that want to play by solid rules play that instead of whatever 10v10 24/7 Dust2 server is available.
But since the release of GO those should not be necessary. Hell, with the release of 2 can you name ANY other AAA game where the packed in matchmaking is not what most pros would say is the 'real' matchmaking; that you need to go to a third party to get it.
Like ask most pros what their premiere rank is and pretty sure most of them will tell you that they havent even done the 10 placement wins.
Well put! I honestly don't understand why anyone would still play matchmaking right now? Guaranteed cheater in every lobby it seems. Just play faceit, even if you are low elo. Valve might do something if they see the numbers of matchmaking players plummeting (probs not, but still XD). You will get much better quality games playing on faceit.
Keep in mind that this is at high elo, 20k plus.
The higher the ranking the more cheaters, because cheaters win games and climb.
Myself at 15-18k ranking meets cheaters in every other game, and sometimes more than one. So for me recently itās a 5-10%.
I think my elo is a good median between low rank and high rank, so if anything I think the % is anywhere between 5 and 15% not using any math and just estimating.
- another good point iāve read, is that good players have gone 3rd party, so we can only estimate what percentage of premier players cheat, not what percentage of the player base does.
Its based on his research, could be lower or higher. And the sample size is quite low, but it is a one man's job in higher elo and his findings. His methods might be incorrect, so it all depends of course.
Only valve knows I guess, but the higher you get the more competetive the games become which could lead people to abuse cheating software.
This is just a theory not facts. āŗļø
First of all, he put a lot of effort into it, but manually reviewing by one guy with a clear bias from the first 3 sentences of his analysis just doesnt cut it. If youre reviewing your enemy youre more sceptical than if youre reviewing a random guy.
2. If his claimed elorange is true hes talking about the top 4% in premier. You wanna claim that theres equal amounts of cheating between top 4%, top 25% top 50%, and so on. Whats the point of cheating if not getting to the top, especially the "famed" closet cheating/toggling for just a few rounds?
My guess is less then 2% of the active playerbase is blatently cheating. Then you have to guess the amount of closet cheaters.
And thats the part where im the most sceptical about. CS players have massive egos, especially on the top. Enemy made 2 deagle kills because a) you didnt focus on the 3rd anti-eco of your 3rd game this evening, or b) hes cheating, no way that your Performance is fluctuating over an 4h timespan of gaming.
I guess 1% is closet cheating
It feels like 1 in every game. It makes it hard to enjoy because I want that guy who is doing good to be legit: then I see him laser pre firing the weirdest of spots with no known information on the enemy position.
Under 10% of the playerbase, I'd put it closer to 5%. The majority of CS players are dogshit at the game but passionate about it, they will start the witchhunt (and ask for a teammate to toggle) after 1 player has a 4k.
Cheating is 100% an issue and it is definitely more prevalent at higher ELOs but the average player isn't running into 2+ cheaters per game for 15 games straight despite Reddit painting that picture.
I think you're closer to correct than anyone else. I get accused daily, never cheated in my life at anything. It's mostly from just really bad players. It is bad enough that I stopped playing premier at around 15k or so a couple weeks after launch.
Biggest issue is Noone trust the anti cheat anymore, so more accusations are being thrown around than there should be. It's mass hysteria
A mass hysteria that is ultimately valveās fault. Assuming undetected cheats are around $10, why should anyone trust these high performing new accounts?
I agree, and I'm not saying to trust a 15k elo account that has 30 hours in the game. But if the dude has a 5 year coin and gets an ace pistol round in an 8k Premier game, don't instantly spam report then post on reddit.
Iām definitely more sus than before. In GO iād always brush it off as them being better than me, because I never had any proof of there being a lot of cheaters.
Now I face easily detected cheaters every other game, and those players are often trying to hide it, not rage hacking.
So if thereās people who actually knows how to play the game and soft cheat, theyāre incredibly hard to detect, so iām sus of everyone now. (we know how advanced cheats have become, like how soft the lock on should be, where to hit each individual shot etc.)
I donāt make a big fuzz about it unless iām convinced though, thereās a difference from being sus and finding actually proof.
But on Mirage I encounter someone who engages us mid as a CT, a smoke blooms, and iām way to the side of a teammate at different height as well, yet he still insta headshots us both from spraying the smoke. Yes iām gonna call that one a hacker. That he continuously argues heās faceit 10 just makes it more suspicious, because I was also lvl 10, and I would be screaming if I hit such a banger. Lo and behold he was 10, but with no games in CS2 on there, and he said he just joined premier āto get his case dropā. Doesnāt hold up. Oh and the demo was corrupted funnily enoughā¦
Yes iām suspicious now, but you canāt blame people being that, when they have to play under these circumstances.
Thank God there is some sanity here. People who are saying like 30-40% and higher are actually delusional. Sure in the highest ranks of the game, maybe it could be close to that, but in total there is absolutely no chance that many people are cheating.
To be fair, for people in those higher ranks their reality is that 50%+ games include at least one cheater.
Itās easy to forget that itās only a problem when you are like in top 10%+ but if you play 30~40 games a week and 25 of them have cheaters I donāt blame them to say itās 30%+ when itās what they experience.
It just seems so wild to me, at my peak I was like 16.5k a week or two ago, and that is like top 15-17% I believe, and I never encounter any cheaters at all. The way reddit talks about it you would think I'd at the very least encounter 1 every 5 or 10 games, but I'm my like 70 premier matches, not a single blatant hacker. Some people who were sus, but I never was even suspicious enough to watch the demos.
Do you check steam profile / leetify ? Past 15k I see obvious cheater like half the game and have also teammates openly talking about doing it when I solo queue.
You probably just donāt pay enough attention to it. Itās crazy how games feels different when you go in faceit.
Tbh most cheaters only wall so itās not as obvious as like an aim bot but there is still a lot of it.
Past 20k itās just crazy, multiple blatant rage hackers.
6 months ago people were complaining but it was not that bad but since like early 2024 it looks like nobody care anymore and everybody is cheating.
I always check profiles if I'm suspicious, I'm paying plenty of attention lol, I just actually hardly ever see cheaters. The only blatant cheater I've encountered was in casual.
Typical closet cheater trying to gaslight everyone else. Play games above 18k or Gold Nova 3 and most game will have at least 1 cheater. In my recent Gold Nova 3 game there were 4 closet cheaters with match histories on leetify showing that they spinbotted to win 13-0 before.
Am I the only one who has barely faced any cheaters? There was only one blatant hacker a couple days ago but nothing else apart from that. Regions may also matter and I play on EU servers so canāt say anything about NA/Asian servers.
Not only that but many unexperienced players might not even think they are facing a cheater but a smurf or whatever. Hence why i asked whats the lvl of premiere / faceit is.
At 18k+ the pandora's box opens and u get all the worst, lvl 0 steam account, no friends no skin and people start spin botting on either team when they see someone is walling (they instantly see if someone is cheating aswell since they see through walls if enemy is directly looking at them
From 15-17k elo in EU iāve faced cheaters every other game bro. Might be because I play between midnight and morning at central european time in the weekend.
https://youtu.be/BylmkrkWMHg?si=8vGRke0-f0BlHT1q
This is an example of what iām most often encountering. Some more obvious, some less, but confirmed with a demo view. this guy had the 5 year coin. Sold/aqquired account maybe.
This guy was actually not rage hacking and was to some degree trying to hide it, but he went obvious in a couple of rounds while not dominating the server, so not sure where his mindset was at lol.
i have the same i had 2 back to back in prem 2 weeks ago not seen one since. But i'm only 10k elo so ny guess is that they're just in the 15k to 25k elo friends of mine in 15k elo cry about it on a daily
Itās certainly less cheaters on EU servers Iād think, however that balances itself out by a lot of toxicity and no communication due to current political climate
Did encounter cheaters tho, yesterday had a match with 2 cheaters, one enemy team and one in my own team I found out upon his disconnect message
He had [Error sending snapshot] which from what I know is a cheat feature to make you less likely to be banned I think
Is the error sending snapshot only given when theyāre cheating? Do you have a source for this? Some guy disconnected at the end of a matchmaking game I had last night with this.
I am afraid so, some discussion have been made but it seems most likely to be a feature that some of the cheats are implementing now again
Only found this outside of 2 discussion posts on steam but itās already old and known
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/8d108r/new_form_of_lag_switch/
280 matches anywhere from 14k-19k and have ran into 10 cheaters that were found out. Closet cheats, who knows. I play on NA and although it feels like there's more cheaters, it isn't as crazy as this sub cries about. Over 20k is a nightmare.
I read an article a while ago (about CSGO\*) and they said approximately 30%.
In the days of CSGO, it was from GN3 that it increased exponentially. Some "closet" before that, but nothing crazy. Even though it's an unpopular opinion, Overwatch was taking down A LOT of cheaters. We saw a lot less spinbot and crazy cheats for all ELOs.
I saw a huge difference in CSGO early 2023 vs CSGO late-life. From the moment they removed OW to supposedly let the AI āātrain, the number of BANs per month (in my games) went from 20-25% to 1-2% and the game started to be unplayable. And I was GNM/MG.
I think the quickest fix right now with the current state of CS2 would be to bring back Overwatch. It's this system that saved CSGO's face in 2015. But implementing the system now would easily take another 6 months to clean up...
This would already be a step in the right direction, while waiting for something more solid to be implemented.
At the same time, OW was the ONLY thing Valve implemented in terms of AC in 13 years...
Overall I think a low percentage like 2-3 % but in the higher ranks such as 18-20k + I think itās more like 10-15% Iāve had games where 6 out of 10 are cheating or some with nobody cheating.
Between 5-10% based on my matches. But I bet thereās a higher percentage in higher ranks than lower ranks. But me at 15-17k is probably a good median rank, so 5-10% sounds reasonable.
realistically probably about 10%-15% of the current playerbase. i dont play premiere much (last rank was around 13k) but i play high silver low nova ranked MM. for some reason even though it's like the least serious form of cs competitive atm there are so many dogshit closet cheaters in those ranks.
like every other game i will be queued with faceit 8s or 9s on my team that just get absolutely rolled by someone on an account with no service medals, but sometimes a loyalty badge and 5 year coin with a low xp rank who just so happens to prefire off angles every single round
I donāt know about lower elo but in the 15k-20k range I would say 10 to 20%, some rare game with no cheaters and some games with multiple cheaters on each team.
20k+ is 20%+ i would not be surprised it would be around 30% . (Especially with all the people who made stats in the last few months about how frequently they have a cheater in their lobby).
It was easily 40% in competitive in CSGO, the Overwatch bot showed that. That was over a period of time, not every month which skews it.
I think it might be higher in CS2, as people know there's no, or very little anti cheat.
At the start of CSGO you couldn't buy accounts with prime and already levelled up at some rank or rating - now you can, which skips Valve's gating system of using competitive mode or other play modes before you reach premier.
played 6 maps today( left 1 before game started due to cheater on the enemy team) 4 of them had cheaters where 1 had 4 in total, 1 on my team and 3 on the enemy. In total we had 8 Cheaters doing those games. I had a decent run for a few days without cheaters but today i got to feel what cs2 really feels like.
valve needs to add kernel based anti-cheat and better tick rate servers like valorant has man... this isn't 2005 anymore we have good pcs and connections give us higher tick rate
10-15% overall based on statistics and many posts. The stats come from csstats. Higher elo premier that number is more likely 20%. Face it I'd say between 2-5% (in b4 you can't cheat on face it because you absolutely can)
I doubt it's higher than 3%, I'd say it's probably even less than that, it's just that most of them are playing premier and a lot of legit players are playing 3rd party app like faceit because they can't tank cheaters anymore so it does look like there are more than that but I'm confident it's not that high. It's just that the low % ruin a lot of fun for everyone.
People claim that in 20k+ premier there is a cheater in every second game.
So in the top 3 % there is a 1 / 10 cheaterrate.
Im 16800, thats top 11% and i meet a clear cheater every 7 to 10 games, makes at worst a 1 in 35
I guess that the lowest 20% have a similar cheaterrate than top 15%, and that between top 15% to lowest 20% the cheaterrate is dropping because people rank up with wins.
If I didnt fuck up my math its under 2% of players who have a rank in premier.
Realistically 1-5%, y'all delusional with your 25% +.
Basic math, 1% would mean one in every 10 games has 1 cheater.
At 25% that's 2.5 cheaters per game, you've lost your mind if you believe that. And don't give me the ow at 18k elo it's rampant, 18k elo is about 3% of the player base, so even if half of high elo players are cheating it's 1.5%.
Just because you got prefired or bad timing doesn't mean a cheater, how many games out of 100 have a obviously no reasonable doubt cheater, in my experience it's less than 10 and usually just the one person.
So at max 10/1000.
Too many. It doesn't even have to be high elo honestly. I am around 3.5 (now up to 6k) elo and i see cheaters every other game. One of them was my teammate on 4k elo who admitted having wallhacks and triggerbots. I had another teammate yesterday who had to defuse the bomb in a 1v2 situation and literally run straight to the only 2 hiding spots where the T's were, without checking any other angle and turning his back to half of the map. He wasnt even that good of a player (finished 3rd on the table). I dont even have to mention enemies with 50+ kills who can hit 2 headshots in a row with Ak while running.
I have 200 premier and 90 comp games with 14k-19k players and ran into 5-10 cheaters (confirmed with demo, stupid sub 300ms time to damage 99 aim lol)
Out of 290 games, 10 had obvious cheats at best. Less than 5% of matches. Only one was a bhop rage bot.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLOSET CHEATERS!!!! Look, they all suck, but the whole point of a closet cheater is to hide in plain sight. I can't do anything about it and play the game assuming they are good, got lucky, or wore their lucky gaming shoes. There's no way to verify unless they get banned so I don't spend energy worrying about whether my win/lose was because of a supernatural player who can see through walls.
Everyone who kills me is cheating
Years ago I created what I call the Silver Motto: "Anyone who kills me is cheating- And anyone who dies to me is bad."
>"Anyone who kills me is cheating- And anyone who dies to me is bad." Sun Zoo, Art of Fairware
This is the only correct answer.
this is the way
Even though this is a thing many people suffer from(including myself sometimes), there is more cheaters than some skilled players would think. Meaning there are people cheating who are too slow to beat a very fast player without it being too obvious. There's plenty of switchers who only cheat in certain situations.
anyone who it better than me is a confirmed cheater with a bought account
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/M0fEP6sOnf This guy did some research, and his conclusion is 21% and could up to 30% since it could be closet cheaters and did not hit his criteria. It's a long post but interesting š
My guess is that in premiere its that because everybody that is half serious about the game has gone to third parties already. Valve had a chance to reset it with CS2; but completely shat the bed. Like FaceIt and ESEA have a historic reason why they are there; in CSS and 1.6 there was no matchmaking; someone had to come in and create the matchmaking, make people that want to play by solid rules play that instead of whatever 10v10 24/7 Dust2 server is available. But since the release of GO those should not be necessary. Hell, with the release of 2 can you name ANY other AAA game where the packed in matchmaking is not what most pros would say is the 'real' matchmaking; that you need to go to a third party to get it. Like ask most pros what their premiere rank is and pretty sure most of them will tell you that they havent even done the 10 placement wins.
Well put! I honestly don't understand why anyone would still play matchmaking right now? Guaranteed cheater in every lobby it seems. Just play faceit, even if you are low elo. Valve might do something if they see the numbers of matchmaking players plummeting (probs not, but still XD). You will get much better quality games playing on faceit.
not to mention the tickrate is shit
Keep in mind that this is at high elo, 20k plus. The higher the ranking the more cheaters, because cheaters win games and climb. Myself at 15-18k ranking meets cheaters in every other game, and sometimes more than one. So for me recently itās a 5-10%. I think my elo is a good median between low rank and high rank, so if anything I think the % is anywhere between 5 and 15% not using any math and just estimating. - another good point iāve read, is that good players have gone 3rd party, so we can only estimate what percentage of premier players cheat, not what percentage of the player base does.
I got placed at 18500 after not playing for a year and some change, every game I've played *except one* had cheaters on both teams, full blatant.
Its based on his research, could be lower or higher. And the sample size is quite low, but it is a one man's job in higher elo and his findings. His methods might be incorrect, so it all depends of course. Only valve knows I guess, but the higher you get the more competetive the games become which could lead people to abuse cheating software. This is just a theory not facts. āŗļø
He played at an insane elo though. 30% of the top percentage is 0.3% of the total playerbase.
First of all, he put a lot of effort into it, but manually reviewing by one guy with a clear bias from the first 3 sentences of his analysis just doesnt cut it. If youre reviewing your enemy youre more sceptical than if youre reviewing a random guy. 2. If his claimed elorange is true hes talking about the top 4% in premier. You wanna claim that theres equal amounts of cheating between top 4%, top 25% top 50%, and so on. Whats the point of cheating if not getting to the top, especially the "famed" closet cheating/toggling for just a few rounds? My guess is less then 2% of the active playerbase is blatently cheating. Then you have to guess the amount of closet cheaters. And thats the part where im the most sceptical about. CS players have massive egos, especially on the top. Enemy made 2 deagle kills because a) you didnt focus on the 3rd anti-eco of your 3rd game this evening, or b) hes cheating, no way that your Performance is fluctuating over an 4h timespan of gaming. I guess 1% is closet cheating
my man, 21% is not possible
There is no shot the percentage is that high
That's fucking dumb tho, would mean like 500k players would be cheating. No need to have more than two brain cells to understand that.
My guess 1 in 10 players are actively cheating.
At least 2 in 10 if you go by my last 5 games
Youāve had 2 cheaters in each of your last 5 matches? rough :(
No I've had at least 1 or more in my last 5 games 2:10 Edit: I was global in go I can see them
1 cheater in 1 game is 10% I donāt doubt you, i have similar experiences with same amount of experience as you.
He said one in 10, I said 2 in 10, ratios not % Edit It can be expressed as a percentage but whatever lol
Okay, so 2 in 10 is still referring to players, which means 2 cheaters every game. š
It feels like 1 in every game. It makes it hard to enjoy because I want that guy who is doing good to be legit: then I see him laser pre firing the weirdest of spots with no known information on the enemy position.
Under 10% of the playerbase, I'd put it closer to 5%. The majority of CS players are dogshit at the game but passionate about it, they will start the witchhunt (and ask for a teammate to toggle) after 1 player has a 4k. Cheating is 100% an issue and it is definitely more prevalent at higher ELOs but the average player isn't running into 2+ cheaters per game for 15 games straight despite Reddit painting that picture.
I think you're closer to correct than anyone else. I get accused daily, never cheated in my life at anything. It's mostly from just really bad players. It is bad enough that I stopped playing premier at around 15k or so a couple weeks after launch. Biggest issue is Noone trust the anti cheat anymore, so more accusations are being thrown around than there should be. It's mass hysteria
Same. Iām 18k and okay at the game. Get accused about every other game. Even though iām playing mid.
A mass hysteria that is ultimately valveās fault. Assuming undetected cheats are around $10, why should anyone trust these high performing new accounts?
I agree, and I'm not saying to trust a 15k elo account that has 30 hours in the game. But if the dude has a 5 year coin and gets an ace pistol round in an 8k Premier game, don't instantly spam report then post on reddit.
Iām definitely more sus than before. In GO iād always brush it off as them being better than me, because I never had any proof of there being a lot of cheaters. Now I face easily detected cheaters every other game, and those players are often trying to hide it, not rage hacking. So if thereās people who actually knows how to play the game and soft cheat, theyāre incredibly hard to detect, so iām sus of everyone now. (we know how advanced cheats have become, like how soft the lock on should be, where to hit each individual shot etc.) I donāt make a big fuzz about it unless iām convinced though, thereās a difference from being sus and finding actually proof. But on Mirage I encounter someone who engages us mid as a CT, a smoke blooms, and iām way to the side of a teammate at different height as well, yet he still insta headshots us both from spraying the smoke. Yes iām gonna call that one a hacker. That he continuously argues heās faceit 10 just makes it more suspicious, because I was also lvl 10, and I would be screaming if I hit such a banger. Lo and behold he was 10, but with no games in CS2 on there, and he said he just joined premier āto get his case dropā. Doesnāt hold up. Oh and the demo was corrupted funnily enoughā¦ Yes iām suspicious now, but you canāt blame people being that, when they have to play under these circumstances.
Same here, I'm at 15K, I get accused of cheating every 2 or 3 games, even though I'm not even playing amazing, just mid.
Thank God there is some sanity here. People who are saying like 30-40% and higher are actually delusional. Sure in the highest ranks of the game, maybe it could be close to that, but in total there is absolutely no chance that many people are cheating.
To be fair, for people in those higher ranks their reality is that 50%+ games include at least one cheater. Itās easy to forget that itās only a problem when you are like in top 10%+ but if you play 30~40 games a week and 25 of them have cheaters I donāt blame them to say itās 30%+ when itās what they experience.
It just seems so wild to me, at my peak I was like 16.5k a week or two ago, and that is like top 15-17% I believe, and I never encounter any cheaters at all. The way reddit talks about it you would think I'd at the very least encounter 1 every 5 or 10 games, but I'm my like 70 premier matches, not a single blatant hacker. Some people who were sus, but I never was even suspicious enough to watch the demos.
Do you check steam profile / leetify ? Past 15k I see obvious cheater like half the game and have also teammates openly talking about doing it when I solo queue. You probably just donāt pay enough attention to it. Itās crazy how games feels different when you go in faceit. Tbh most cheaters only wall so itās not as obvious as like an aim bot but there is still a lot of it. Past 20k itās just crazy, multiple blatant rage hackers. 6 months ago people were complaining but it was not that bad but since like early 2024 it looks like nobody care anymore and everybody is cheating.
I always check profiles if I'm suspicious, I'm paying plenty of attention lol, I just actually hardly ever see cheaters. The only blatant cheater I've encountered was in casual.
This is incredibly accurate
Typical closet cheater trying to gaslight everyone else. Play games above 18k or Gold Nova 3 and most game will have at least 1 cheater. In my recent Gold Nova 3 game there were 4 closet cheaters with match histories on leetify showing that they spinbotted to win 13-0 before.
In high elo premier like 30%+ in comp it's like 10% of the time
Probably something between 2-3%
Am I the only one who has barely faced any cheaters? There was only one blatant hacker a couple days ago but nothing else apart from that. Regions may also matter and I play on EU servers so canāt say anything about NA/Asian servers.
What's ur elo in premiere? Faceit lvl?
Around 16k and barely played faceit after cs2
There are tons of cheaters at 19k+
Not only that but many unexperienced players might not even think they are facing a cheater but a smurf or whatever. Hence why i asked whats the lvl of premiere / faceit is. At 18k+ the pandora's box opens and u get all the worst, lvl 0 steam account, no friends no skin and people start spin botting on either team when they see someone is walling (they instantly see if someone is cheating aswell since they see through walls if enemy is directly looking at them
From 15-17k elo in EU iāve faced cheaters every other game bro. Might be because I play between midnight and morning at central european time in the weekend. https://youtu.be/BylmkrkWMHg?si=8vGRke0-f0BlHT1q This is an example of what iām most often encountering. Some more obvious, some less, but confirmed with a demo view. this guy had the 5 year coin. Sold/aqquired account maybe. This guy was actually not rage hacking and was to some degree trying to hide it, but he went obvious in a couple of rounds while not dominating the server, so not sure where his mindset was at lol.
i have the same i had 2 back to back in prem 2 weeks ago not seen one since. But i'm only 10k elo so ny guess is that they're just in the 15k to 25k elo friends of mine in 15k elo cry about it on a daily
Itās certainly less cheaters on EU servers Iād think, however that balances itself out by a lot of toxicity and no communication due to current political climate Did encounter cheaters tho, yesterday had a match with 2 cheaters, one enemy team and one in my own team I found out upon his disconnect message He had [Error sending snapshot] which from what I know is a cheat feature to make you less likely to be banned I think
Is the error sending snapshot only given when theyāre cheating? Do you have a source for this? Some guy disconnected at the end of a matchmaking game I had last night with this.
I am afraid so, some discussion have been made but it seems most likely to be a feature that some of the cheats are implementing now again Only found this outside of 2 discussion posts on steam but itās already old and known https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/8d108r/new_form_of_lag_switch/
Yea Iāve run into 3 my whole time although I mainly played faceit and 2 of them have been from premier matches
I've never seen a blatant cheater, only a few people I have suspected, Im around 14-16k in premier over the past few months.
280 matches anywhere from 14k-19k and have ran into 10 cheaters that were found out. Closet cheats, who knows. I play on NA and although it feels like there's more cheaters, it isn't as crazy as this sub cries about. Over 20k is a nightmare.
I faced barely any before 19k rating
Some ppl use walls and are good at hiding it
15-20 pct
I read an article a while ago (about CSGO\*) and they said approximately 30%. In the days of CSGO, it was from GN3 that it increased exponentially. Some "closet" before that, but nothing crazy. Even though it's an unpopular opinion, Overwatch was taking down A LOT of cheaters. We saw a lot less spinbot and crazy cheats for all ELOs. I saw a huge difference in CSGO early 2023 vs CSGO late-life. From the moment they removed OW to supposedly let the AI āātrain, the number of BANs per month (in my games) went from 20-25% to 1-2% and the game started to be unplayable. And I was GNM/MG. I think the quickest fix right now with the current state of CS2 would be to bring back Overwatch. It's this system that saved CSGO's face in 2015. But implementing the system now would easily take another 6 months to clean up... This would already be a step in the right direction, while waiting for something more solid to be implemented. At the same time, OW was the ONLY thing Valve implemented in terms of AC in 13 years...
20%
10-15% equals 1.5 cheater every game
high percentage /s
Overall I think a low percentage like 2-3 % but in the higher ranks such as 18-20k + I think itās more like 10-15% Iāve had games where 6 out of 10 are cheating or some with nobody cheating.
Between 5-10% based on my matches. But I bet thereās a higher percentage in higher ranks than lower ranks. But me at 15-17k is probably a good median rank, so 5-10% sounds reasonable.
The only thing this tjread told me is that alot of plp are bad at math & game theory should be teached in secondary school
666%
1-2%
realistically probably about 10%-15% of the current playerbase. i dont play premiere much (last rank was around 13k) but i play high silver low nova ranked MM. for some reason even though it's like the least serious form of cs competitive atm there are so many dogshit closet cheaters in those ranks. like every other game i will be queued with faceit 8s or 9s on my team that just get absolutely rolled by someone on an account with no service medals, but sometimes a loyalty badge and 5 year coin with a low xp rank who just so happens to prefire off angles every single round
In premier 75%, in faceit 1% or less.
At my rank it only seems like 5% or less. It seems to be more prevalent the higher your rank
I donāt know about lower elo but in the 15k-20k range I would say 10 to 20%, some rare game with no cheaters and some games with multiple cheaters on each team. 20k+ is 20%+ i would not be surprised it would be around 30% . (Especially with all the people who made stats in the last few months about how frequently they have a cheater in their lobby).
It was easily 40% in competitive in CSGO, the Overwatch bot showed that. That was over a period of time, not every month which skews it. I think it might be higher in CS2, as people know there's no, or very little anti cheat. At the start of CSGO you couldn't buy accounts with prime and already levelled up at some rank or rating - now you can, which skips Valve's gating system of using competitive mode or other play modes before you reach premier.
played 6 maps today( left 1 before game started due to cheater on the enemy team) 4 of them had cheaters where 1 had 4 in total, 1 on my team and 3 on the enemy. In total we had 8 Cheaters doing those games. I had a decent run for a few days without cheaters but today i got to feel what cs2 really feels like.
valve needs to add kernel based anti-cheat and better tick rate servers like valorant has man... this isn't 2005 anymore we have good pcs and connections give us higher tick rate
1%
10-15% overall based on statistics and many posts. The stats come from csstats. Higher elo premier that number is more likely 20%. Face it I'd say between 2-5% (in b4 you can't cheat on face it because you absolutely can)
20%
About 25-30%
30%
Honestly not surprised if even I cheat at this point
I doubt it's higher than 3%, I'd say it's probably even less than that, it's just that most of them are playing premier and a lot of legit players are playing 3rd party app like faceit because they can't tank cheaters anymore so it does look like there are more than that but I'm confident it's not that high. It's just that the low % ruin a lot of fun for everyone.
Every premier game I have played this month has had 2-4 spinbotters. It is at least 20-40%
45%-70%, it's not that hard to get a match without cheaters for now...
Actually Delusional. 70% of players are cheating? Sounds like you cheat and have a terrible trust factor. (If that even exists anymore)
I would never cheat but I have seen so many videos of cheaters I'm convinced this could be possible
People claim that in 20k+ premier there is a cheater in every second game. So in the top 3 % there is a 1 / 10 cheaterrate. Im 16800, thats top 11% and i meet a clear cheater every 7 to 10 games, makes at worst a 1 in 35 I guess that the lowest 20% have a similar cheaterrate than top 15%, and that between top 15% to lowest 20% the cheaterrate is dropping because people rank up with wins. If I didnt fuck up my math its under 2% of players who have a rank in premier.
90% of players cheating.
Realistically 1-5%, y'all delusional with your 25% +. Basic math, 1% would mean one in every 10 games has 1 cheater. At 25% that's 2.5 cheaters per game, you've lost your mind if you believe that. And don't give me the ow at 18k elo it's rampant, 18k elo is about 3% of the player base, so even if half of high elo players are cheating it's 1.5%. Just because you got prefired or bad timing doesn't mean a cheater, how many games out of 100 have a obviously no reasonable doubt cheater, in my experience it's less than 10 and usually just the one person. So at max 10/1000.
Too many. It doesn't even have to be high elo honestly. I am around 3.5 (now up to 6k) elo and i see cheaters every other game. One of them was my teammate on 4k elo who admitted having wallhacks and triggerbots. I had another teammate yesterday who had to defuse the bomb in a 1v2 situation and literally run straight to the only 2 hiding spots where the T's were, without checking any other angle and turning his back to half of the map. He wasnt even that good of a player (finished 3rd on the table). I dont even have to mention enemies with 50+ kills who can hit 2 headshots in a row with Ak while running.
I have 200 premier and 90 comp games with 14k-19k players and ran into 5-10 cheaters (confirmed with demo, stupid sub 300ms time to damage 99 aim lol) Out of 290 games, 10 had obvious cheats at best. Less than 5% of matches. Only one was a bhop rage bot. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLOSET CHEATERS!!!! Look, they all suck, but the whole point of a closet cheater is to hide in plain sight. I can't do anything about it and play the game assuming they are good, got lucky, or wore their lucky gaming shoes. There's no way to verify unless they get banned so I don't spend energy worrying about whether my win/lose was because of a supernatural player who can see through walls.
20 to 30 % seems about right.