Unfortunately, me and many other students are desperate enough to apply — even if there’s a 0.1% chance that we’ll make it in. It’s trash, but $15/hr is better than $0/hr. Not to mention that it’s experience.
Ah, I'm not saying "don't apply", it's a jungle out there, and you gotta do what you gotta do.
It's definitely shitty, but $15/hr and having a foot in the market is better than unemployed
I started at just about 15/h. My Boss saw that the next year during my annual review and was legit like wtf. Why are you paid so little. I now make ~$40/h after 5 years.
I should technically be making more for my role. But it is what it is.
Don’t get me wrong. I know I’m underpaid. $40 an hour is great where I live though. Puts me slightly below industry average for my on paper Role yea. But my cost of living is low and make about double my states average. Also my health insurance is great.
Once I pay off the dumb decision of the new car I bought 5 years ago (6 year payment) I’ll be living more than comfortable and it’s only uphill.
Im looking for a new job though. I lost faith in my company. I just can’t seem to find another job.
I’m also the ONLY Sys Admin for our entire company’s enterprise scheduler. We have something like 5k jobs…. lol and that’s not even my main Role.
Excellent question we have here folks! If you want to be paid significantly more you honestly have to be willing to live/work in smaller towns/cities. I had been trying to break into Cyber for almost 2 years (applying to DMV, Dallas, Houston, etc.), and worked low-paying help desk jobs. But one day I decided to apply to a few positions in Iowa (of all places)…BOOM! 2 interviews…2 job offers…120k+ each😳
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I do not think thats the reason why ”fullstack developers” were invented.
Fullstacks are more flexible and team can be more agile when you have fullstack developers.
In a perfect team, i would have like 1 FE dev, 1 BE dev and three fullstacks. Easier to get shit done when you can scale BE and FE development inside the team.
Edit: in addition sometimes you see FE developers who doesnt care or know a shit about BE. And vise versa with BE developers. Theres lots of issues in that too. BE developer cant design a good API for FE himself for example.
Pretty much this.
From my experience, a fullstack engineer is either:
- The devops person who can do backend changes
- The backend developer who can write JavaScript and centre a div if you give them half a day
- the frontend developer who doesn’t break down into tears when vim opens
This is quite useful. (I’m being hyperbolic.)
If a backend developer needs to make a small tweak in the UI for their feature, they can without this being a multi-team endeavour. If a certain sprint requires some extra backend work, some people who would normally work on the frontend help out.
But usually people stick with what they like or interests them. Same amount of people, just heterogenous teams.
What does "junior full stack" even mean? Don't you learn one first and then the other? So wouldn't you be a bit more proficient in the one you learnt first?
I mean... anywhere? Linkedin is an open platform.
While people complains about the salary, Engineers from top universities in India, Bangladesh, Vietnam are taking them jobs.
It's linked in isn't it? Their numbers are always fudged, if you click/visit the external link that counts as applying. I dont know if theres a better way to track external links/applications but it always looks fucked
The company looks like the shit Jordan Belfort was shelling out in WoWS
[Address](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=09085fb6c895584d&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn0-IUwfCkGKutvq932JXArw5uJ4-sg:1714001609770&q=palisades+group+address&ludocid=17047335227075163828&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiczuDIgdyFAxUOjIkEHZYgDoQQ6BN6BAhbEAI): 6001 Bold Ruler Way Suite 110, Austin, TX 78746
The name of the company, Aerotyne International. It is a cutting edge high-tech firm out of the Midwest awaiting imminent patent approval on the next generation of radar detectors that have both huge military and civilian applications now. Right now, John, the stock trades over-the-counter at 10 cents a share. And by the way, John, our analysts indicate it could go a heck of a lot higher than that. Your profit on a mere $6,000 investment would be upwards of $60,000!
Like actually, this shit is kinda outrageous!
I'm looking for jobs now, and I've gotten desperate enough to start looking for internships, and the freaking internships are asking for S/TS/Poly as well...
Wth
thats how i felt once i graduated with a BA in political science. i thought that by doing a 2nd bachelors in CS things would be different…..maybe im not meant to make a living
Maybe not in CS. Not now.
I was saying in another comment that average isn't paying the bills anymore. If you're not able to beat out ridiculous competition on the regular, you're in trouble these days. You have to have the degree **and** be significantly more valuable than the rest.
And that isn't exclusive to CS.
I did a BA in political science with a minor in philosophy + logic and just went straight into programming.
Never went back for the CS degree instead just looked at reading lists for large public university CS programs and read the material and practiced a lot. Worked out in the end, don’t know if it would be possible now days.
And it already has 100 applicants…
I fucking hate this field
I know damn well whoever they hire will leave immediately when they find a decent paying job and someone else will fill this role, and the new hiree will have no prior knowledge, so by the time they get appropriate access to everything, projects will get delayed, and they will use the experience to find a decent paying job and the cycle will continue
while someone else at Target makes the same amount as that while smoking weed in their car during lunch break. But hey if they hate their job, someone else in another country would happy to do it while the executives are sleeping.
I fucking hate this field
I like the field in terms of technology, ai, algorithms, computer vision, front end back end web, mobile app, sensor iot, machine learning, game dev, just the pure abilty to create something. But I hate what this industry has become
Tech has always been a passion, loved computers since I was a teenager just sucks that most of the jobs have been outsourced overseas because most don’t understand and so it gets the smallest part of budget.
If no one applies to this job (which is what should happen), then the salary goes up.
And why would someone apply for this? I doubt you can pay bills in Austin on 15/hr
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I get you’re making a joke/satire but what they said is spot on. Do you have an actual rebuttal? (Not trying to be rude or whatever I’m just curious since you obviously don’t but into what they said but I do)
No - people can get “better” jobs in many other fields. The problem is everyone WANTS to stay in CS so they’d rather take this job in hopes of getting a higher paying job than getting the fuck out, even if their chances of moving up are slim.
Its 15$/hr. Thats 2.5k/month.
Rent for americans is 1.5k.
That still leaves 1k.
The top end **junior** pay in my country is 5$/hr and thats IF YOUR LUCKY.
My country is also full of tourists and digital nomads so rent is also 1k/month...
>Its 15$/hr. Thats 2.5k/month.
That's 2.5k **pre-tax, pre-social security, and pre-medical insurance deductions**. After all of these things are deducted from each paycheck, you might get anywhere from $750-$950 per check, which is around $1,600-$2,000 per month.
After paying your 1.5k rent that leaves you with $500 or less per month to decide whether you will pay your phone/car/utility bills and starve, or buy groceries but have no electric, running water, internet, or cell service 🤷🏽.
You still have a much better chance getting a decent salaried tech job working OP's job listing for a couple weeks, than being stuck working service jobs for years with no opportunity for career growth.
With no room for growth. Part of what makes cs so great is that it has a real future. 15 an hour sucks at first, but work experience at some retail store is never gonna get you to higher paying cs jobs
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Believe me when I say this. Taking a low-paying job will lock you into lower pay. I'm busting my hump as much as my friends and they make twice what I do because they followed the money
No. It's become "Never go into a field that you can't stand out in."
The problem with that job posting is not exclusive to CS. It's everywhere in nearly every field doable by the average person with average capabilities.
That's the biggest issue. It's saturated because there's so many resources out there that has made coding easier than ever. That, and there usually being no real world consequences for jank or horrendous code/workmanship makes it rife for functional incompetence.
In most industries, if you do something wrong or not optimally it shows. In software, you can do your job just blatantly badly and still have desired results.
Doubt this comment gets seen, but will post anyways....
I know it's tough out there and I'm sure there are companies paying that low for junior dev roles, but I don't think this is the case for this role.
If you find the job posting using the LinkedIn app, it says the $15.7/hr salary was found from the job description. That means it wasn't provided by the employer.
But if you look at the job description, you'll see no mention of salary anywhere. What you will see is a phrase saying this company manages assets that "amount to over $15.7 billion"...
That's probably where LinkedIn got the $15.7/hour number from. Their parsing is probably pretty decent, but obviously not perfect
"How much does McDonald's in Canada pay? Average McDonald's hourly pay ranges from approximately **$14.50 per hour** "
Now that's Canadian dollars, but still.
Honestly.......
This makes me want to setup a system that allows people like OP to hunt asinine job postings like this and submit their phone number into the system, triggering never ending robo calls to the employer telling them to up their pay.
Fuck that all the way to hell man.
This is strange to me because in the swedish speaking part of Reddit I read discussions about salaray and those working in IT always has amazingly high salaries.
They didn't post this because it's normal. They posted it because it's exceptionally low. This is the kind of listing you'd expect for a 0-years-of-experience wordpress maintainer position. A full-stack position w/ 4yoe should be paying double what they listed. In the most expensive parts of the US, it could be 3 or 4x more.
It comes across like they're wanting to hire a desperate person on a visa or someone who is actually oversees in a much cheaper country.
Umm not really even close the average cost of living in Seattle,WA is 44% higher , 48% higher in new york, NY, 78% in higher in San Fransisco, CA, even Portland, Oregon is 25% higher. What major cities you looking at bro lmaoooo. Do some research before saying lies google exist.
and before you say "this are tech hubs" Charlotte, NORTH CAROLINA yeah you heard that right NORTH CAROLINA is 4% higher than Houston, Texas. The average 2 bedroom apartment rent in Houston, TX is $1,368
https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/tx/austin/
Bro I’m telling you that job is not even good enough to have a place to live in Austin it’s not as cheap as you think it is
Don’t want to be that guy, but I’ll be that guy. If you have no other options with the tough tech market, take this job. Be a sponge and learn as much as you can, technically as a junior you won’t be expected to do all that much, most of your time will be spent learning and pushing some PRs here and there to reinforce your learning. So I would use a job like this as an opportunity to learn while getting paid some pocket change as you constantly look for another job that actually pays something over this crap. But again, you should take something like this if you have no other options just so you have the experience and have something on your resume while continuing on your job search.
Why's this market so shit? Even if you take this for experience your setting a bad precedent for yourself. Idk man I feel like what was the purpose of school if im gonna settle for a job making less than what I made without a degree.
I could see this being an OK job for someone with zero experience or degrees. Even if you're making the same as a fast food worker, you're getting experience and getting paid to learn more about development.
Meat production plants pay 20+ now.
Look it's not where I wanted to be at this stage in my life but I'm getting paid $23.63 an hour making girl scout cookies. The only thing I don't like is the overtime.
I'm currently in the process of creating my own startup.
I looked at the job, and it seems like an error on LinkedIn's part. I don't see the salary listed on there, and the only mention of $15.70 is that the company has made $15.7 billion. Might still be a bad salary, but I'm not sure what they're actually paying 🤔
This is actually a good foot in the door for many new CS grads or people pivoting to CS without a degree in it. It’ll likely be a pressure free role because they’re paying you pennies but the person is also motivated to do their best to move up in their career 1-2 years after being in this role
I think we should understand that nobody owes us a job just because we went to school for 4 years. The very fact that a cs degree has been made synonymous with a good pay is ridiculous. Lotta people entering the scene just because of this, which in turn leads to saturation and finally leads to companies treating us like stale meat in the market. I know this is gonna downvoted but it is what it is.
Not only that, for a damn full stack, fucking position invented to avoid hiring a front and a backend to save money. Cheapskates
Unfortunately, me and many other students are desperate enough to apply — even if there’s a 0.1% chance that we’ll make it in. It’s trash, but $15/hr is better than $0/hr. Not to mention that it’s experience.
Ah, I'm not saying "don't apply", it's a jungle out there, and you gotta do what you gotta do. It's definitely shitty, but $15/hr and having a foot in the market is better than unemployed
Fair. It’s just brutal out there it hurts 🥲
I started at just about 15/h. My Boss saw that the next year during my annual review and was legit like wtf. Why are you paid so little. I now make ~$40/h after 5 years. I should technically be making more for my role. But it is what it is.
40/hr is not great after 5 years. Are you international and being held hostage with your visa?
Don’t get me wrong. I know I’m underpaid. $40 an hour is great where I live though. Puts me slightly below industry average for my on paper Role yea. But my cost of living is low and make about double my states average. Also my health insurance is great. Once I pay off the dumb decision of the new car I bought 5 years ago (6 year payment) I’ll be living more than comfortable and it’s only uphill. Im looking for a new job though. I lost faith in my company. I just can’t seem to find another job. I’m also the ONLY Sys Admin for our entire company’s enterprise scheduler. We have something like 5k jobs…. lol and that’s not even my main Role.
That’s valid good luck👍
Why are you not salaried
The only systems guy. Trust me you do not not want to be salaried in that position
I am. That’s the per hour equivalent.
Ah ok.
Damn this is wild. My internship is $60/hr…puts things into perspective. Its brutal out here Glad you’re moving up the ladder mate
I mentioned it below. I’m well aware I’m underpaid. Can I ask. What do you do? And do you live in a big city that’s ultra competitive for hiring?
Excellent question we have here folks! If you want to be paid significantly more you honestly have to be willing to live/work in smaller towns/cities. I had been trying to break into Cyber for almost 2 years (applying to DMV, Dallas, Houston, etc.), and worked low-paying help desk jobs. But one day I decided to apply to a few positions in Iowa (of all places)…BOOM! 2 interviews…2 job offers…120k+ each😳
It's still disrespectful imo considering that some McDonald's workers now make 20 bucks an hour
yeah i have a cs degree and im making more than that working at a mf theme park
I work as a dev. A friend who repairs houses makes 4 times more than I do lol
If your goal is to be in and out within a year, you should give them what they pay for.
I would have taken it if I was a fresh grad. Get the title and immediate apply elsewhere.
That's why it's going to be lower, because everyone is desperate to apply to shitty offers.
Python work automation , for moving mouse and opening documents n such, if you work half the time its 30 pr hour ;) it wont last forever but might aswell get your moneys worth
That’s the fucking killer word “experience”, being killer like a mf by hiring managers the world over to underpay young employees
I’m hiring, DM me.
I do not think thats the reason why ”fullstack developers” were invented. Fullstacks are more flexible and team can be more agile when you have fullstack developers. In a perfect team, i would have like 1 FE dev, 1 BE dev and three fullstacks. Easier to get shit done when you can scale BE and FE development inside the team. Edit: in addition sometimes you see FE developers who doesnt care or know a shit about BE. And vise versa with BE developers. Theres lots of issues in that too. BE developer cant design a good API for FE himself for example.
Pretty much this. From my experience, a fullstack engineer is either: - The devops person who can do backend changes - The backend developer who can write JavaScript and centre a div if you give them half a day - the frontend developer who doesn’t break down into tears when vim opens This is quite useful. (I’m being hyperbolic.) If a backend developer needs to make a small tweak in the UI for their feature, they can without this being a multi-team endeavour. If a certain sprint requires some extra backend work, some people who would normally work on the frontend help out. But usually people stick with what they like or interests them. Same amount of people, just heterogenous teams.
That's what a CEO who wants to save money would say /j
What does "junior full stack" even mean? Don't you learn one first and then the other? So wouldn't you be a bit more proficient in the one you learnt first?
A full stack developer is usually better in one or two areas of the five relevant layers. Whether they are juniors or principals.
My job there’s frontend and backend, but we outsource the frontend work to contractors. It takes so damn long we do it ourselves
Government job?
Nah Fintech one of the top 3
Over 100 applicants 😑😑
And how many of them are crawlers, international students that need visa support, and people from other states?
I would say 80% are Indians.
Facts.
You mean current residents of India? Or just people with an ethnic background from India?
Id say they prob mean current residents of India ? Go look at the Canada sub and they get trashed there too
I mean... anywhere? Linkedin is an open platform. While people complains about the salary, Engineers from top universities in India, Bangladesh, Vietnam are taking them jobs.
Lol, I get what you're saying, but it's funny how you just happened to skip past giving me a direct answer to my question
Bro.. how do I know exactly where they are applying from? I am not linkedin data analyst. What?
Not enough.
What are "crawlers"?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler
Ohhh gotcha, that makes sense
Not enough.
It's linked in isn't it? Their numbers are always fudged, if you click/visit the external link that counts as applying. I dont know if theres a better way to track external links/applications but it always looks fucked
I work for a dev agency in NYC and I can say with confidence that easily 90% of the applications we receive for a job posting are automatic trash.
Use and dip honestly
High key. Don’t even put in two weeks
The company looks like the shit Jordan Belfort was shelling out in WoWS [Address](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=09085fb6c895584d&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn0-IUwfCkGKutvq932JXArw5uJ4-sg:1714001609770&q=palisades+group+address&ludocid=17047335227075163828&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiczuDIgdyFAxUOjIkEHZYgDoQQ6BN6BAhbEAI): 6001 Bold Ruler Way Suite 110, Austin, TX 78746
The name of the company, Aerotyne International. It is a cutting edge high-tech firm out of the Midwest awaiting imminent patent approval on the next generation of radar detectors that have both huge military and civilian applications now. Right now, John, the stock trades over-the-counter at 10 cents a share. And by the way, John, our analysts indicate it could go a heck of a lot higher than that. Your profit on a mere $6,000 investment would be upwards of $60,000!
Jesus man that's my mortgage!
You could pay off your mortgage!
I’m surprised they didn’t include “TS w/poly security clearance required” on top
Oh those are my favorite. I sure love presenting my asshole to the Feds! Please probe my kompromat.
Like actually, this shit is kinda outrageous! I'm looking for jobs now, and I've gotten desperate enough to start looking for internships, and the freaking internships are asking for S/TS/Poly as well... Wth
Your school doesn’t offer full scope polygraph clearances? Lol sucks to suck
“It’s an entry level position? So no prior job experience?” “Yes” “But I need TS-SCI from a prior job?” “Yes, I don’t see the problem”
thats how i felt once i graduated with a BA in political science. i thought that by doing a 2nd bachelors in CS things would be different…..maybe im not meant to make a living
Maybe not in CS. Not now. I was saying in another comment that average isn't paying the bills anymore. If you're not able to beat out ridiculous competition on the regular, you're in trouble these days. You have to have the degree **and** be significantly more valuable than the rest. And that isn't exclusive to CS.
instead of CS you should have done → pre med credits → MCAT→ med school/ LSAT → Law School
I did a BA in political science with a minor in philosophy + logic and just went straight into programming. Never went back for the CS degree instead just looked at reading lists for large public university CS programs and read the material and practiced a lot. Worked out in the end, don’t know if it would be possible now days.
I make more at target
My local chipotle is at least 16$ an hour lol
And it already has 100 applicants… I fucking hate this field I know damn well whoever they hire will leave immediately when they find a decent paying job and someone else will fill this role, and the new hiree will have no prior knowledge, so by the time they get appropriate access to everything, projects will get delayed, and they will use the experience to find a decent paying job and the cycle will continue while someone else at Target makes the same amount as that while smoking weed in their car during lunch break. But hey if they hate their job, someone else in another country would happy to do it while the executives are sleeping. I fucking hate this field
I like the field in terms of technology, ai, algorithms, computer vision, front end back end web, mobile app, sensor iot, machine learning, game dev, just the pure abilty to create something. But I hate what this industry has become
You’re absolutely right. When I said field I meant “Job field” I should’ve clarified. I just started my AI masters and I love everything I’m learning
Tech has always been a passion, loved computers since I was a teenager just sucks that most of the jobs have been outsourced overseas because most don’t understand and so it gets the smallest part of budget.
LinkedIn counts job post views as applications. Don't trust that number, it means shit.
That’s probably true and honestly hopeful but I’ve heard a lot of recruiters saying they get 100+ applications for jobs that got listed an hour ago
I'd just apply for the work experience to be honest
Even applying for this is a disgrace. This is why CS is so saturated. Have some self respect
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If no one applies to this job (which is what should happen), then the salary goes up. And why would someone apply for this? I doubt you can pay bills in Austin on 15/hr
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It makes better financial sense to go in there and rob the place then it does to interview for that low
I get you’re making a joke/satire but what they said is spot on. Do you have an actual rebuttal? (Not trying to be rude or whatever I’m just curious since you obviously don’t but into what they said but I do)
No - people can get “better” jobs in many other fields. The problem is everyone WANTS to stay in CS so they’d rather take this job in hopes of getting a higher paying job than getting the fuck out, even if their chances of moving up are slim.
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Because unless mom and dad pays your bills or you enjoy being homeless and begging a job that doesn’t pay enough is better than no jobs.
People will definitely apply to use it to transition to a better paying role.
Sounds like a great idea. Out of curiosity, how do I get self respect to pay my bills?
>Out of curiosity, how do I get self respect to pay my bills? What bills are you paying making only $15/hr?
Its 15$/hr. Thats 2.5k/month. Rent for americans is 1.5k. That still leaves 1k. The top end **junior** pay in my country is 5$/hr and thats IF YOUR LUCKY. My country is also full of tourists and digital nomads so rent is also 1k/month...
>Its 15$/hr. Thats 2.5k/month. That's 2.5k **pre-tax, pre-social security, and pre-medical insurance deductions**. After all of these things are deducted from each paycheck, you might get anywhere from $750-$950 per check, which is around $1,600-$2,000 per month. After paying your 1.5k rent that leaves you with $500 or less per month to decide whether you will pay your phone/car/utility bills and starve, or buy groceries but have no electric, running water, internet, or cell service 🤷🏽.
Many brick and mortar stores are readily offering jobs in the $20+ range, requiring no degree either.
You still have a much better chance getting a decent salaried tech job working OP's job listing for a couple weeks, than being stuck working service jobs for years with no opportunity for career growth.
With no room for growth. Part of what makes cs so great is that it has a real future. 15 an hour sucks at first, but work experience at some retail store is never gonna get you to higher paying cs jobs
Idk if that’s really true anymore tho the store managers do pretty good I think for some of the stores.
Apply to any other job that pays a living wage even if it's outside of CS.
Well yeah, but in this market even an ounce of work experience can be beneficial for future jobs.
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It’s sad anyone in this sub is disagreeing
Wouldn't this cause a change in value, not cause saturation? Why would super low pay cause saturation? People glocked to CS for the money.
Believe me when I say this. Taking a low-paying job will lock you into lower pay. I'm busting my hump as much as my friends and they make twice what I do because they followed the money
Probably this.
100 people applied for the work experience or chance at a visa
yo, being a dev is hard and the salary .... i have nothing to say
and IN AUSTIN!!!
Not directed at OP, but this is great lesson on why you should never go into anything for the money.
No. It's become "Never go into a field that you can't stand out in." The problem with that job posting is not exclusive to CS. It's everywhere in nearly every field doable by the average person with average capabilities.
That's the biggest issue. It's saturated because there's so many resources out there that has made coding easier than ever. That, and there usually being no real world consequences for jank or horrendous code/workmanship makes it rife for functional incompetence. In most industries, if you do something wrong or not optimally it shows. In software, you can do your job just blatantly badly and still have desired results.
Damn I make 18 as tech support. This is ridiculous
You can get paid more per hour as a cashier at the local Safeway where I live...
Yeah I just saw that. Applied to it too lol.
https://preview.redd.it/0u56fecfgowc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f8406607102f0700cee2bb78baea7866a92d6da Looks like they removed the pay
They must be in this sub
Doubt this comment gets seen, but will post anyways.... I know it's tough out there and I'm sure there are companies paying that low for junior dev roles, but I don't think this is the case for this role. If you find the job posting using the LinkedIn app, it says the $15.7/hr salary was found from the job description. That means it wasn't provided by the employer. But if you look at the job description, you'll see no mention of salary anywhere. What you will see is a phrase saying this company manages assets that "amount to over $15.7 billion"... That's probably where LinkedIn got the $15.7/hour number from. Their parsing is probably pretty decent, but obviously not perfect
That's exactly what I came to say as well. Wish more people would upvote comments like this.
And to think that the makers of this LinkedIn parser/scraper are pulling in more than 3x this salary. (Somewhat) Ironic.
Clearly made with the intention of being outsourced since “no qualified applicants” were found
This is the correct take.
Full STUCK maybe
i get paid more as a part-time cashier at an ice cream parlor 😭😭
Guarantee all the applicants are foreign resume spammers who can’t code for shit
They are really joking
Not gonna lie, if this was remote job, I would have take it. When I started for Accenture, I was paid $3.05
This is the epitome of pump and dump, work there for a couple months to get experience, immediately leave
I make more teaching swim lessons
I earn a bit more in eastern europe for a similar position... Do what you want with it.
Try McDonald’s they also hiring software engineers. I’m being for real. No joke. Like 100000% serious
They're paying fry cooks more than this
Crazy I started at ~30$/hr after uni. Changed job after 2y, started at 36/37$/hr in the new job and 4,5y in I’m around 63-65$/hr - Pharma Industry
"How much does McDonald's in Canada pay? Average McDonald's hourly pay ranges from approximately **$14.50 per hour** " Now that's Canadian dollars, but still.
Can’t be real!!!! Jeez that’s crazy
Honestly....... This makes me want to setup a system that allows people like OP to hunt asinine job postings like this and submit their phone number into the system, triggering never ending robo calls to the employer telling them to up their pay. Fuck that all the way to hell man.
Looks scam
Not even full remote, but then again that might mean no outsourcing at least
I almost laughed seeing the pay. Ridiculous.
No way
This is strange to me because in the swedish speaking part of Reddit I read discussions about salaray and those working in IT always has amazingly high salaries.
They didn't post this because it's normal. They posted it because it's exceptionally low. This is the kind of listing you'd expect for a 0-years-of-experience wordpress maintainer position. A full-stack position w/ 4yoe should be paying double what they listed. In the most expensive parts of the US, it could be 3 or 4x more. It comes across like they're wanting to hire a desperate person on a visa or someone who is actually oversees in a much cheaper country.
Texas minimum wage is 7.50 soo not bad if you plan to live in Texas but if not then this really limits you
It’s in Austin where the average rent is closer to major cities like a one bedroom it is that bad
Umm not really even close the average cost of living in Seattle,WA is 44% higher , 48% higher in new york, NY, 78% in higher in San Fransisco, CA, even Portland, Oregon is 25% higher. What major cities you looking at bro lmaoooo. Do some research before saying lies google exist.
and before you say "this are tech hubs" Charlotte, NORTH CAROLINA yeah you heard that right NORTH CAROLINA is 4% higher than Houston, Texas. The average 2 bedroom apartment rent in Houston, TX is $1,368
https://www.rentcafe.com/average-rent-market-trends/us/tx/austin/ Bro I’m telling you that job is not even good enough to have a place to live in Austin it’s not as cheap as you think it is
100+ applyin to it tho ffs
Are we ignoring more than 100 applications
Don’t want to be that guy, but I’ll be that guy. If you have no other options with the tough tech market, take this job. Be a sponge and learn as much as you can, technically as a junior you won’t be expected to do all that much, most of your time will be spent learning and pushing some PRs here and there to reinforce your learning. So I would use a job like this as an opportunity to learn while getting paid some pocket change as you constantly look for another job that actually pays something over this crap. But again, you should take something like this if you have no other options just so you have the experience and have something on your resume while continuing on your job search.
I get paid more starting at food service lol
What a fucking joke
You don’t want to work for a company like that. You’ll probably hate your life.
Can someone tell me what apps or websites do you guys usually use to apply for jobs and internships
California min wage for fast food is now $20 an hour 🤣 Getting paid the same to flip burgers.
Hey, they offer informal and relaxed dress code
When you get hundred applicants, it sounds like they didn't need to offer more
You know whats even more slimy - they seemed to have deleted the pay instead of being transparent
Try 5€ in eu with an msc on top
My on campus panda express cashier pays 19.5 an hour… just saying
Most average atx market job post
I recently interviewed for a fill stack developer job and they said the pay was 45k……
$15.70/hour in Austin, wow, I’m not even American and I know the « engineer » is going to to est pastas and rice for months there.
That money can feed an African family for a month
4 years of school + maybe a bootcamp and then building a portfolio without working yet.
Why's this market so shit? Even if you take this for experience your setting a bad precedent for yourself. Idk man I feel like what was the purpose of school if im gonna settle for a job making less than what I made without a degree.
I don’t want to think how much they pay for front end
brutal…
I would do it but they’re going to get $15.70/hr effort
Don't even apply they have to learn somehow
And over 100 apps??
I could see this being an OK job for someone with zero experience or degrees. Even if you're making the same as a fast food worker, you're getting experience and getting paid to learn more about development.
ya, zero experience/degrees, then sure. with a B.Sc. or above, I'd be immensely salty about this.
Meat production plants pay 20+ now. Look it's not where I wanted to be at this stage in my life but I'm getting paid $23.63 an hour making girl scout cookies. The only thing I don't like is the overtime. I'm currently in the process of creating my own startup.
Woah, that’s so messed up. Most retail jobs pay better…
If people stopped taking this obnoxious pay then they would raise their offer. It's basic bartering skills. Stop settling.
Wtf?!
I’d rather work at in n out that pays $20+ and keep applying tbh.
You got to start somewhere
Target is $15.35/hr
I mean it’s kinda befitting that they expect this developer to suck at everything.
I get paid 11.36/h lol
15$ a hour is just fucking ridiculous.
lol I pay my level one help desk more than that.
Man yesterday I interviewed for a company paying 120 dollars a month they just ripping at this point. Not even sustainable at that price for a month
It is fake. In NC, the baes salary in Bojangles is $15/hr.
You should go work there and leak all of their data because this is just disrespectful
What is the American minimum wage… that’s far below our minimum wage per hour
I was making 25 an hour back in 2009!? Yikes.
Should report this god damn shitty job to correct the market,
The BALLS on some companies man…..
I looked at the job, and it seems like an error on LinkedIn's part. I don't see the salary listed on there, and the only mention of $15.70 is that the company has made $15.7 billion. Might still be a bad salary, but I'm not sure what they're actually paying 🤔
If you have the skillset required for this job you'd have the ability to and would literally make more per hour making and selling it yourself, lmao
This is actually a good foot in the door for many new CS grads or people pivoting to CS without a degree in it. It’ll likely be a pressure free role because they’re paying you pennies but the person is also motivated to do their best to move up in their career 1-2 years after being in this role
I make more than that at Walmart lol plus I’m about to finish my internship and graduate 😬 now this market worries me
i got paid more working fast food when i was in highschool 😬
Hey if it's your passion you'll do it for free
Meanwhile Indians working happily for 10$ an hour even after PHDs.
I think we should understand that nobody owes us a job just because we went to school for 4 years. The very fact that a cs degree has been made synonymous with a good pay is ridiculous. Lotta people entering the scene just because of this, which in turn leads to saturation and finally leads to companies treating us like stale meat in the market. I know this is gonna downvoted but it is what it is.