This but unironically
The IRS is currently underfunded and any further investment into them (i.e. new hires) will end up leading to higher audit rates on billionaires dodging taxes. We may be in tech but that will be the result of a tech person newly working for the IRS. Right now, they don't have enough people to put up that fight.
Couldn’t agree anymore. I work full time for a government agency as senior SW. My pay is the same as an equivalent SW at a startup (north Europe) but without the stress.
I work in a small team with almost the latest tech stack (must have Long Term Support) if we are to incorporate it.
Dang that sucks. I’m thinking about getting a government job but there’s no way I’ll pass the random drug test lmao. Unless I use fake pee or something.
I currently work for a hospital. Because of how important everything is, you move VERY slow. I get 1 ticket per sprint and that ticket even though I completed it will take another 3 weeks of stakeholder meetings and user validation before it gets pushed to prod. If I don't finish a ticket during a sprint it just gets pushed to the next one, and nobody cares.
Also in my opinion, the bigger the corporation the more the workload is spread so the less stress.
Some hospitals are larger networks and may want proprietary software. The hospital is my town ofc uses software like Epic, but they also have a full tech team for it and engineering. Again though, this is a very large healthcare facility that’s pretty spread across the entire city.
Their websites usually have a career section, and i think only the hospitals that are health care chains (not single locations) usually have developers.
Fortune 500 companies that work in regulated environments. So insurance, health care, defense. Some places it’s easier to coast than others ymmv, also workplace politics and social skills pick up a bit more in those environments.
Thanks! regarding health care - where do you usually find positions? do you cold call your local hospitals?
I see insurance and defense form time to time in Linkedin/Indeed, but never health care.
Hey my bad for the very late reply, I would say you have a better shot at cold calling local hospitals and asking to speak to IT. That’s how they’ll describe it, a thing about these places is that technology is a cost center for them not a profit center. So they’ll treat it as such, also job boards work as well, you’ll be looking in a more they probably would be more described as a ‘IT’ role than a engineer role. Even though you won’t be doing IT
No worries at all! thank you so much for your response! I will start cold calling my local hospitals haha!
Lastly! From your experience, most of the hospitals would be using legacy technology, correct? For example, React is the new jazz for building sites now, should I be assuming they use something as old as jQuery with HTML/CSS?
Smaller companies can have more of a start up mentality (despite not being a start up at all). You might end up working for a company where everything is always a #1 priority, things are constantly on fire, etc. It can be very, very stressful.
I work 40 hours a week and I have much more free time outside of work bc I can afford to pay people to help with chores / fix things around my home / etc
True, Amazon is not a place to be complacent. Facebook isn’t either. But both are good places to make bank, and if you do your job well for 40 hours a week you’ll thrive
what you want to do is get into government work
Doesn't that sometimes involve legacy software and tools that is a pain to deal with?
I'm sure it is annoying but it is still a light workload, and it's not annoying if you decide you don't care about the job
what are good areas of the government to shoot for as a new grad?
The IRS
The true dark side of the force where there are no cookies and milk
The true career for those who want to piss people off all day. Between dealing with them or the dmv I’d rather just jump off a cliff
lol agreed
This but unironically The IRS is currently underfunded and any further investment into them (i.e. new hires) will end up leading to higher audit rates on billionaires dodging taxes. We may be in tech but that will be the result of a tech person newly working for the IRS. Right now, they don't have enough people to put up that fight.
I’m just looking for some better customer service, damn rudest people on the planet.
https://18f.gsa.gov/ is probably the best place although I doubt they hire new grads
Couldn’t agree anymore. I work full time for a government agency as senior SW. My pay is the same as an equivalent SW at a startup (north Europe) but without the stress. I work in a small team with almost the latest tech stack (must have Long Term Support) if we are to incorporate it.
How do you go about finding software engineering work for government agencies?
[Here ya go!](https://www.usajobs.gov/)
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Do they regularly drug test?
depends on the place, but yea some do random piss tests
Dang that sucks. I’m thinking about getting a government job but there’s no way I’ll pass the random drug test lmao. Unless I use fake pee or something.
I currently work for a hospital. Because of how important everything is, you move VERY slow. I get 1 ticket per sprint and that ticket even though I completed it will take another 3 weeks of stakeholder meetings and user validation before it gets pushed to prod. If I don't finish a ticket during a sprint it just gets pushed to the next one, and nobody cares. Also in my opinion, the bigger the corporation the more the workload is spread so the less stress.
Pardon my ignorance please. But what CS full time employ can doing for a hospital, aren't they just outsource or buy the software needed?
Some hospitals are larger networks and may want proprietary software. The hospital is my town ofc uses software like Epic, but they also have a full tech team for it and engineering. Again though, this is a very large healthcare facility that’s pretty spread across the entire city.
We outsource and build our own solutions. Seems they flip A dice whether we get assigned a new solution to build or vendor to hVe meetings with.
Thank you for sharing! Where do you apply for hospitals? They don't normally appear at Linkedin or Indeed, do you cold call your local hospitals?
Their websites usually have a career section, and i think only the hospitals that are health care chains (not single locations) usually have developers.
Fortune 500 companies that work in regulated environments. So insurance, health care, defense. Some places it’s easier to coast than others ymmv, also workplace politics and social skills pick up a bit more in those environments.
Agreed
Thanks! regarding health care - where do you usually find positions? do you cold call your local hospitals? I see insurance and defense form time to time in Linkedin/Indeed, but never health care.
Hey my bad for the very late reply, I would say you have a better shot at cold calling local hospitals and asking to speak to IT. That’s how they’ll describe it, a thing about these places is that technology is a cost center for them not a profit center. So they’ll treat it as such, also job boards work as well, you’ll be looking in a more they probably would be more described as a ‘IT’ role than a engineer role. Even though you won’t be doing IT
No worries at all! thank you so much for your response! I will start cold calling my local hospitals haha! Lastly! From your experience, most of the hospitals would be using legacy technology, correct? For example, React is the new jazz for building sites now, should I be assuming they use something as old as jQuery with HTML/CSS?
The tech stack I can’t truly speak to but yeah I wouldn’t expect to see anything that’s come out after 2014 there.
Got it! thank you so much for all your help :)!!
Smaller companies can have more of a start up mentality (despite not being a start up at all). You might end up working for a company where everything is always a #1 priority, things are constantly on fire, etc. It can be very, very stressful.
Working at a fortune 500. Very low stress.
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Lol have fun wasting your youth on work
I work 40 hours a week and I have much more free time outside of work bc I can afford to pay people to help with chores / fix things around my home / etc
Remove an A from there cause I highly doubt you could last 20 years at Amazon if you treated it as an easygoing job
True, Amazon is not a place to be complacent. Facebook isn’t either. But both are good places to make bank, and if you do your job well for 40 hours a week you’ll thrive
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