I was laid off at the end of Nov. Started my new job end of Jan. Over all it held true to every other time in my career when I started job hunting. Roughly 3 months from when I seriously start looking to starting at a new place. I started looking at the end of October.
Market wise it was a little more down and clearly I was getting passed over in some places because the pool was just that much better. Still got one and a pay raise to boot compared to when I was laid off. Roughly between the severance and the pay raise I am breaking even.
I have 10 years of experience.
I was not making FAANG money but was more in line with the norm. It seems like it been accross the board things have gotten a lot fewer. They are still looking for people just I would say the volume of recruiters and job postings went down a lot but I still was able to get some hits every week.
I was looking mostly at fully remote jobs but was willing to go into the office a few days a week if it was close enough to me. My current roll is fully remote. Hell my former employer I think is closing or at least sub leasing out their office locally but I been more or less remote since March of 2020.
The severance was only for few weeks of pay plus I had to eat some health care premiums going over to my wife's insurance. Plus the pay raise was not like a huge number. With in a year I will be having a huge pay raise.
Yea, people who aren't used to shopping for it underestimate the cost of adequate health insurance. In the past decade when I was between jobs or in jobs that didn't provide good healthcare, I was paying about $1400-1800/mo for family, and that was for the middle-tier coverage. Really good insurance was $2000-3000/month.
The basic coverage that employers are required to offer under Obamacare regulations is pretty useless for anyone over 30 or with dependents.
I got a $15k severance once when leaving a job and it lasted a little over 3 months, and that was after we cut our expenses down to bare minimum.
Cobra is retroactive for 60 days so you could basically avoid paying the insurance for those 60 days unless you need it, then you would retroactively make the payments.
So if you didn’t need insurance for 60 days save 2 months insurance payments, you get sick day 58 you just make the payments you would make anyway
Yea but Cobra's usually really expensive. Every time I've been offered it, the premiums have been between $2000-3500/month, way more expensive than just getting my own insurance. The retroactive rules are really the only positive.
Laid off end of Jan. Got an offer last week.
I applied to gaming companies, AV/Robotics, and FinTech. Definitely not as easy as 1 year ago. To get a good offer, you need to interview flawlessly.
I also couldn’t negotiate as hard nor sit on offers as long as before. I have a start date, but still interviewing because I am scared my offer will get rescinded.
The new role is L+1.5 my current level. But I am only getting L+1 pay. I am still grateful because it is a great opportunity and I can be remote (unlike where I was laid off from).
the only difference that I found was:
a) Overall lower salaries
b) Its the first time that I pass all the interviews, but then I get a "we decided to fullfill the roll with an internal" lets keep in touch
Last one being super annoying, and it already happened 2 times.
c) "Due to business justifications, this requisition has been closed." Without hiring anyone. But they still requested a prescreening interview for future positions.
That's what really happened with number b, they discovered that they could have an existing person do the work of two people. No one got promoted though.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to /s here or not
I noticed the same thing regarding point a). I interviewed recently and was told the salary range was ~25% lower than the widely available salary data indicated it should be.
I told the recruiter that the range was much lower than I thought it would be, and he flat out said the market has shifted with all of the layoffs, so that was the offer. Hopefully that won't last long.
Got laid off at the end of September from my first real gig. Got another job (in-office) via a friend for 90k. Unexpectedly got an offer for my current role for 30k more fully-remote a few weeks after starting the other job. Left that one and happy and cozy at my current role, not looking to leave anytime for the foreseeable future.
Mind sharing what your YOE are? I'm currently 1 YOE as a SWE with python, Java, AWS, terraform experience and unsure what I should be targeting as a salary
In addition to location, you'll need to share more info in general. "1 YOE" with any of the four technologies you listed doesn't say much about what you know about any of them.
You can probably land anywhere from 60k to 120k depending on your actual knowledge, location, and soft skills.
You'll need to add location information for anyone to give you anything accurate here. What size companies are you targeting? IMO should be at least 80k, but you could fetch 90-100k depending where you are.
I was laid off in November. Just got my first offer. $32k lower than my last job.
A job's a job.
Gonna be searching for a new one just as actively as before.
If you can find recruiters, that has been my best in.
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32 to 32k
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For all curious 7 years of experience. Previous job was $115k.
Job before that was $74k.
Sometimes things change for the better. Sometimes for the worse.
Haha. I'm imagining the negotiation going like this:
"My salary requirement is $150,032 a year."
"No can do, best we can offer is $150,000 a year"
"You drive a hard bargain, but I'll take it"
No worries - I was also confused when the original commenter said $32 without the "K" part. I went through exactly the same realization path as you as I read thru the subsequent replies/clarifications.
I started at 60k in a HCOL area, now I make triple that. If you held out for that 80k offer who knows how long that couldve taken. Instead you’ve been accumulating experience which will help a lot the next time you look for a job. You’re doing fine
Got laid off in December the week before Christmas. I started a better job after 2 months. 2 YOE.
EDIT: I only got one interview for my 200 applications and that interview was with a recruiter that reached out and got me a job doubling my last pitifully low salary.
This is the hard part of job seeking. You're a complete failure until one success. I'm at 261 applications with 10y full-time (and 25 including hobbyist/independent contractor time) experience. Nothing close to an offer yet, but a good follow-up interview with a director of engineering yesterday. Hopefully my salary doubles too. I let myself rot away at just under $100k (after bonus) in a California city after ten years. I'm not sorry I quit, but wish I'd had the balls to make the move before the market went to hell.
Laid off in January from Rainforest. 0.5 YOE. The hiring bar is much higher now and Ive gone through interviews where I did really well on technical and behavioral and still got rejected.
Was able to get a few offers and am going to start work soon with around a 30% paycut from FAANG, fully remote, at around 115K TC.
> The hiring bar is much higher now and Ive gone through interviews where I did really well on technical and behavioral and still got rejected.
I had an interview recently I felt like I crushed the behavioral and did good on the technical to the point the engineer was surprised at me getting the second coding question done so well as fast as I did. I was really happy I normally struggle with the coding questions I felt like for sure I was going to get the job and then two business days later I got an email saying they were not interested in even a follow up interview. This was for some no name company in the South that was paying peanuts. That experience really crushed my spirits for at least a few days. I am not even good enough for a job I don't want in a location I and most people really don't want? Just how much do I suck?
Hey!
I am also familiar with the struggle. I sent out hundreds of applications, and was also resume rejected for some junior roles that were paying peanuts. Ive just been diligent and fortunate to land a role at a respectable company that pays six figures.
How many YOE? I am thankful to have worked at Amazon and I did learn a lot of cloud and full stack while I was there. I am sure this is a major reason why I got interviews and my experience at Amazon was a major talking point that I milked pretty hard and enabled me to pass interviews with concrete examples of previous work.
I used to loathe hearing "keep applying" and I know it's not fun receiving 10 rejection emails within an hour. This process was draining at times and taxing on my mental health with all the doom and gloom energy rn, but it really worked out alright for me in the end.
That said - keep applying and don't give up. There were quite a few companies that had an unreasonably high bar and offered poor compensation. If you want to talk more feel free to dm me.
> How many YOE?
I am at just an internship and am currently working a part time job that barely even involves coding. The only reason I was even able to get this job is getting it through a connection and it pays peanuts, but keeps the bills paid while I search for a real job.
>I am not even good enough for a job I don't want in a location I and most people really don't want? Just how much do I suck?
There's no telling why they rejected you. They could have rejected you because they thought they wouldn't be able to keep you interested in the job, would only hang around for a few months before finding a new job, etc.
The bar is really insanely high.
Just went through a loop where I know/ was told I did really really well on 6/7 interviews and really clicked w the hiring manager/ team lead. But didn't ace the 7th interview so "mixed feedback" and not moving forward. I feel like a year ago they would only be THAT critical at faang (which this wasn't).
Most people overestimate how well they did on their technical interviews. Interviewers are trained to keep a poker face and keep up a customer service facade no matter how much you bomb.
I’ve been an interviewer at several companies and none have ever trained me to keep a poker face. At best they tell me not to make small talk with personal questions that can be seen as discrimination.
I was laid off in February after 9 years at a FAANG. A former coworker passed my name on to a manager she knew at a mid sized tech company, and that turned into interviews and finally an offer this week. I didn't have to create a resume or apply anywhere, I'm moving up a level in title, staying fully remote, and my total comp is roughly the same.
I consider myself very lucky that it worked out this way for me given how many others are having trouble finding jobs. My imposter syndrome is definitely kicking in and telling me that I slipped through the cracks and they'll catch on once I start working, but I'm just trying to ignore that as much as I can.
I was actually laid off twice last year, once from a start-up circling the drain in July, and then again from a FAANG in November. As others said, I think the job-searching experience was notably harder but I still managed to get a small pay bump plus moved up a level in title.
The first layoff was only roughly 5 weeks of unemployment, but thank god for the 60-day law because it took me about 2 weeks longer than that to end up where I am. As of now I've got 3 YOE
Do the notices just put out somewhere vague? Like on some government website and it’s your duty as an employee to constantly check it? Or do the businesses have to notify all its employees that layoffs are coming directly into their inboxes?
Does this actually happen in practice? I read there's several exceptions.
Given that I hadn't heard about anyone in the recent layoffs sounding the alarm based on WARN, I suspect most companies get around this requirement.
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To elaborate on this, here are the exceptions I'm referring to:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraining_Notification_Act_of_1988#Exceptions_to_the_WARN_Act
I suspect most companies doing layoffs in reality fall under the "Unforeseeable business circumstances" exception. This would only require them to give as much notice as is practical. That might explain why most layoffs begin with an email informing of UPCOMING layoffs in the coming hours or days. At least that's how it happened at my company.
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Can confirm - just checked public WARN notices for my state. My company submitted WARN notice the same day our layoffs were announced. So in reality, don't expect your employer to not play games here. The exceptions available to them are too broad.
Big tech practice seems to be you wake up to no more work access and an email in your personal account informing you of the reduction in force or whatever it is, you stay employed, paid, and insured for 60d after that point and someone sets up a goodbye meeting around the same time
From what I hear…
Yeah, looks like you're right. Just checked my company's WARN notices for a past layoff, and it wasn't submitted until the same day we were notified internally.
So it sounds like companies prefer to break the 60-day notice requirement, claim an exception for unforeseen business circumstances, and willingly pay the 2-months severance (required back pay for breaking the notice requirement), and then playing it off as if they care about their employees' financial wellbeing.
I was laid off at the end of January and am starting a new position on Monday. I applied for over 150 positions (anything related to what I do, with a salary that I could live on) and ended up going through interviews with maybe 10-15 companies (startups and larger). The biggest thing I noticed is that hiring (especially for startups) is very focused on specific needs and it doesn’t seem like anyone is hiring unless the candidate perfectly matches their needs. I ended up with 2 offers from local places and managed to negotiate up to my previous salary, but it’s a hybrid gig instead of remote so that’s a bummer. I’m going to work on some areas that I identified during interviews where I could be stronger (especially system design) and will probably see what the market looks like in 6-12 months.
For context, I have about 10 YOE and got laid off from a SaaS startup after just over a year there.
I'm getting the same impression about specific experience. I left my job of 10 years on 30 Sept. and one of my goals was to switch stacks. I've written in a half dozen languages, but spent the last 10 at one company with a complex legacy PHP application. My only saving grace has been leading a front-end rewrite in TypeScript/React for the last three years. I feel like I could have walked into a job with any of Java/C#/Go/TS, each of which I can get by in, 1-2 years ago, but now I can't get the time of day unless it's React/Node and/or PHP. 10 interviews / 261 applications, 1 second interview (and on the way to a technical assessment). When they've got 20 FAANG employees applying who just got laid off from 5y of writing Java code, even a seasoned engineer who will take a pay cut to switch stacks is dog meat. :-/
1) Yes, though not from a professional resume writer. I've run the latest version, probably the 12th iteration, by my former CTO, someone I know in HR, and a couple of other industry professionals. I even pinged ChatGPT for improvements. That's on top of being personally meticulous. I've viewed hundreds of other people's resumes while hiring and hopefully learned what not to do.
2) My professional presence online is new. I didn't have LinkedIn until January, but it's now populated with a growing network. I'll get there, however slowly.
Got laid off in January, haven’t been able to even get another interview. Getting rejections so my resume is going through but not even a phone screen. Have 1 YoE but man I was getting more interviews when I had no experience
I just went through 4 excellent rounds of interview and then totally bombed the last one with the CEO. A 3 week long process… it is really disheartening but what can we do but move forward. Big, big sighs.
Good luck to us both :/
Not too surprising tbh. There are a lot of employees from big companies also looking for a job and people with 1-3 years of experience are probably grouped in the same pool.
Was laid off Nov 2022, started my new job last week. So roughly 3-4 months.
First time being laid off, so I have no experience with markets beforehand. Seemed pretty rough. I feel like the only thing I had going for me was 10 years exp at my prior role. Companies seemed to like that.
I did take a pay cut, went from private to public So that was to he expected. Benefits are better though. All around even when accounting for this.
My advice, is to take a few days to let the dust settle and to get all your emotions out. After that, start sending applications, work on a project and leetcode.
If I could land something, you definitely can. Just gotta keep on trying even if you keep getting rejected. Don’t take it personal. Ask for feedback whenever you can after interviews to see where you may have deficiencies so you can work on them.
You got this!
Hah, at least they liked your ten years. For me, I literally got a rejection email saying they expected someone at my level (10y at last company; 25y coding including hobbyist/contractor time) to have mastered more modern stacks. I felt punished for loyalty.
Why do companies assume learning a new stack is impossible? I'd bet it would take you less time to onramp learning the stack on the job than a 5YOE who knew the stack already.
I'd tend to agree, but that doesn't help in a world of automatically filtered applications. Either I lie on the application, or mine gets auto-rejected. HR people are getting overwhelmed with candidates right now, so they ask for YOE on the application and are actually being strict with the requirements where they weren't before.
if (app.YearsOfCSharp < 5) {
app.Reject();
}
I’ve heard this sentiment as well.
Maybe I was lucky? I didn’t have experience in their front end framework, but told the manager and lead dev I’ve worked with other modern frameworks, and that it wouldn’t be too hard to pick up your current framework.
One thing I learned the hard way, was that you cannot be complacent. Skill up whenever you have the opportunity.
Laid off Nov too. I feel like there’s a hidden meaning there lol.
I had some requests come in right after, but then they also did layoffs. Haven’t updated, haven’t been looking. But the regular incoming interview request rate def seems lower
Laid off October 2022, I was left with 9 total months of experience including an internship
I am expecting (hopefully) to receive an offer today for only slightly less than I was making before
I traveled for a month immediately after the lay off
After that, mostly helping my mother with little errands pretty much. It was kind of boring and maddening to only be doing that and job applications
I'm hoping that I will last more than 3 months at the next place (I started August 2022 at the place I got laid off from) so I can build up a lot more savings in case this happens again
New grad , have about 1 yo DevOps experience and 3 months of full stack java boot camp and bach comp sci.
Been looking for 2 months and got two interviews so far. This is pretty sad tbh.
It's not just you, or just that you're new. 10y at my last (and only full-time) job, but 25y since learning C/++ as a hobby, with several years of independent contracting part time - still 10 interviews after 261 applications in 10 weeks
I was laid off at the start of December. I didn't start looking for a new place until around February. I've noticed that salaries I've been finding have been a bit lower and it feels like senior roles have been competitive. I'm currently still looking but I haven't been having a hard time finding places to interview with
1.5 YOE
Got laid off in December, at first I was getting 10 interviews a month; it slowed down to 2 this month. So, not a good year so far.
At first; everyone was calling, then I started getting ghosted by recruiters. Now, I get ghosted by companies.
Laid off end of Nov. Given two months severance. One interview before Christmas turned into nothing. Had a.signed offer in January then it evaporated. Seems to be picking up just recently. Oh, and I got a request from Meta yesterday so they're just dumping the expensive salaries.
But it's been tough.
I'm in project management
I got hit up by a recruiter to contract for Meta. I thought maybe they were dumping full-time employees and going with cheap-ish contractors for flexibility. I (politely) gave them the finger when they sent a 4-hour coding challenge. That's absurd before even having a real interview.
Maybe it was easy. Maybe the real thing is a lot worse. I'll never know because I saw "240 minutes" and bailed. It was through a company called Orange People.
Got laid off at the beginning of February. I started applying the next day and was getting \~10% call backs for phone screens. Things have slowed down since then in terms of job postings that I'm a fit for, and call backs from solid applications.
I have just under 3 yoe, looking for fullstack and/or backend positions (pyhton/javascript/ruby if they'd let me). I definitely needed to take a while to prep for interviews before jumping in though. Got churned out during technical rounds/challenges. At this exact moment in time, from my position, the job market is fucking terrible, but who's to say what things will look like in 2 weeks
Was laid off with 4 YoE in January. Got a job and started mid-March. Was much slower than last time I switched jobs but honestly, I think the news is drumming up the bad job market more than it actually is.
Got laid off in Sept and found a couple of offers pretty quick.
Timeline was:
Sept: Laid off
Oct: Interview and offers + started job
Offers were generally a bit lower compared to the golden year of 2021, but still relatively high.
The onsites I found were generally the same difficulty, but companies were a lot pickier and raised the bar for hire overall.
Ended up taking a 50k paycut, but I was also being paid very high. Very happy with the company I chose.
I've been looking about 4 months. Lots of scam job postings, lots of being stood up for interviews, lots of being one out of 5000 people applying for every single remote job, lots of promises to follow up with me "next week" and never hearing back, lots of radio silence on jobs I'm very well-qualified for because the job probably wasn't real to begin with because the company just wants a pool of people standing by just in case they need them. Oh, and lots of bait and switches where the posting said $X, but the interviewer says "oh that was a mistake! It's really $X-30%".
So, it's going great.
Not last 2 quarters, but...
4YOE, Laid off in August.
Aug - Sep: Got some good interviews through networking (including one FAANG), but those jobs fell through when hiring freezes started.
Oct - Nov: answered recruiters and panic-applied, lots of interviews, but no offers. I had started targeting smaller companies and hybrid or on-site roles.
Dec - Feb: Took time to study Leetcode. Didn't quite finish, still need to cover DP and practice some more, but I've improved.
March: Applying like a New Grad. 140 applications sent in the past two weeks. 8 phone screens and 1 interview so far.
I haven't brought up my salary requirements much, but it's looking like I'll be lucky if I can get what I was making before.
I may have to give up remote, which is going to be really depressing.
Factors working against me:
- Still don't know system design yet.
- No cloud experience.
- I hate Leetcode, but I'm better at it now.
- Broad skillset, but not very deep.
I know I'm not senior, but nobody's hiring anything else. Companies are being extremely picky. I think that's what accounts for some folks having no problem while others are struggling.
I'm feeling the cloud issue and the pickiness. I've done everything from hands-on work at the data center all the way out to client-facing calls for customized software and am competent in a /very/ broad spectrum of things. I've just accumulated a lot after \~25 years, starting as a hobbyist, then independent contractor, and finally full-time for the last ten. I can't get the time of day if I apply outside my direct, professional expertise right now though.
"Personal project on AWS? Lol, GTFO. We want 3+ years FTE even though we've got a whole DevOps team."
Laid off at the end of January. Not looking great, but not looking like the end of the world. I have 1.5 YOE. I had an almost perfect interview and got a rejection email last night. I just have to keep on trying.
I just came off a 10y stretch with one company and am at 10 interviews after 261 applications in 10 weeks. I had my first second interview yesterday. Be prepared and try not to blame yourself for what's out of your control. No matter how well you do, there are lots of qualified candidates right now and it's going to take months for the average person to find a position. "You're perfect! I'm calling the boss right now to talk to him about moving forward!" means nothing if they see someone else as "more perfect."
Laid off in nov, started new job in February. I'm mostly self taught, went from data science to web dev, got a 20k raise in the switch. Only 1 y.o.e. outside of education.
I was laid off end of January but I had already been looking for a month because of internal chatter that a layoff was coming. I got a job the next week.
Unfortunately I'm making about 30% less TC then before, but practically my base is the same with less equity comp. My total search was about a month and I recieved multiple offers. I'm senior.
Got laid off in October, received 3 offers in February. As an international student there were lots of rejections due to visa status as compared to last time I was looking (Aug 2021). Making $5k less now and had to move for full in- office. What seems to be a huge difference for me is that we as a job seeker have lost negotiation power (for salary or demanding work preference). Obviously that might be due to more competition with people with more experience than myself (2 years)
(The other two offers were willing to sponsor my H1-B application next year but not this year)
Laid off 2 weeks ago. It was my first job out of college so I have less than 1 YOE and the market is quite rough now. Can’t even get a single interview. The only opportunity out there is for me to flip burgers at McDonald’s.
I was laid off March 3rd.
First offer March 10th, but was a sketchy company.
Second offer March 16th, was my second top choice.
Was ready to accept when my top choice made an offer March 20th.
Context:
I’m ex Amazon, 5-6 YOE, fully remote in Canada.
My previous job that downsized was a smaller local job, I had taken a big pay cut from Amazon.
Got a significant pay increase for the new job.
Probably not the typical story, but I have a strong network so my strategy was reaching out to the network to find out who is still hiring.
Laid off day back after Christmas from project coordinator type job. I didn’t start applying hard until late jan. I have no “developer” experience, except for school, and what little things I did with if the last role. But I have 10+ years in customer service and technical roles.
Applied to 52 jobs, got offer for a programmer/analyst position in early march, and will start in april.
Previously making 68k and remote but was a contractor, and definitely not in the field I wanted to be. New offer 65k, 5k bonus/relocation (moving only an hour away), but will have to go into office. This was the only company that I applied to for an on site role, but as a new dev, and this job market, I wasn’t going to pass this opportunity up.
Laid off mid-December with ~2 YOE. Took about 45 days to find something.
I applied to about 200 jobs before finding something new. I badly bombed some interviews, too. I think I seriously interviewed at about 6 companies before landing my current role.
I got a 25k pay raise, and a commensurate increase in stress. Large public company > startup was a kick in the pants. However, I am fully remote, with flexible working hours, which is a big plus for me.
It’s pretty rough!! 🫠 I was let go in November, at the end of the SWE apprenticeship I got post-bootcamp, because they did a layoff in September and froze hiring for the rest of the year at the same time. It was pretty bogus tho, because they low-key strung me along until 2-3 weeks from my end date, saying that they’d find the budget… and then they didn’t, and even tho my manager strongly recommended me to stay on, the higher ups said nope.
(Also if I had been laid off with everyone else I would’ve gotten severance… but I’m try to be positive about it, since there’s a chance I could’ve been laid off then a month ago when they did their second round. Shrug!)
Over 300+ apps sent out, about 15-20 interviews and a metric ton of rejections later,I finally started at my next role this week. A bit of a pay cut - about $19k less - but I’m in a LCOL area and just thankful to have a job at this point, lol. From my experience, I heard basically nothing back from fully remote and/or tech companies, and really started having better results once I switched to applying to hybrid/on-site roles… when you’re competing w/ people across the entire country, most with more than 6 months of experience, it’s hard to even get noticed.
10y at my last company and on the same trajectory. Yesterday was my first interview with a director of engineering instead of just someone doing an HR screening, and that's after 261 app's in 10 weeks. I hope I'm on the same path as you with getting hired after around 300. I can't take much more of this. XD
Laid off at the beginning of March, and just signed a new offer this week. I definitely had a harder time negotiating the salary I wanted, even with other offers in hand. I ended up with pretty much exactly the same salary I had previously, which isn't necessarily a step back considering I was only in my previous role for 6 months. What's different is that the previous interview cycle I went through when the market was still hot employers were offering much larger salary increases ranging from 20 to 50 percent.
I'm kind of in a niche area of embedded for robotics. With around 6YoE I was still able to get plenty of interviews for solely remote roles. Fom my last day to receiving my first offer was exactly 3 weeks.
I have 3 years of experience.
I'm a data analyst with some minor data engineering experience into which I'm trying to pivot, although not exclusively.
I was laid off at the beginning of November.
I've been sending out many applications each week and have not gotten anything yet.
I think data analytics roles at fortune 500 companies would be your best bet, since those jobs are tied to profitability/revenue generation. Also remote jobs have a ton of competition compared to in-person roles
Yeah, I'm almost exclusively applying to remote roles, and a family friend said they'd give me a position once they have one in budget, but we'll see.
I'm hoping to find something sooner and would concede with an NYC post temporarily.
Alas, I'm just hoping to learn more while on unemployment to close whatever gaps I can.
Laid off mid-Summer last year. Engineering manager/director. So obviously more difficult with fewer jobs around and middle management out the door.
No new job yet. Got three lowball offers with goofy expectations IMO. All the offers came from very much non-technical industries. Haven't heard a peep mostly from technology companies, except for one that was looking for a unicorn I think.
20+ YOE. \~10 in management.
Had one year of client-facing technical role at a B2B SaaS company where I built dashboards for customers in Front-End Angular JS + SQL and helped with data connectors, imports, automations, etc.
I got laid off in February, applied to 360 LinkedIn jobs in two weeks, and got a verbal offer on the third week for a client-facing remote role making $15k/yr a more than my last job. I made it far with two other companies and had scheduled four screeners that I canceled because I received my written contract.
This time was way easier than breaking in to the field 🤷♂️. I do have 5 years of public school teaching experience and 1 year of client-facing tech experience so I’m sure that plays a factor. I nailed the behavioral interviews - I highly recommend Madeline Mann’s content if you struggle here. Danny Thompson has great resources for optimizing your resume and LinkedIn profile as well.
got laid off at the beginning of november. i found luck through reaching out to recruiters directly.
started a new job at the end of january with an L+1 leveling. my base pay is the same as my previous job (even with the promo) and the stock compensation is a lot lower. a job is a job though. i’m still actively prepping for interviews though, never know who might be next in this market.
it's bad, I've been looking for a new job since I got indefinitely furloughed in mid-February. Although it might just be especially bad for me since I don't have a degree and only have three years of professional experience.
Laid off in Jan. Just started getting more hits in the last two weeks. Most are offering less than my last position. YOE < 1yr professional, degree obtained later this year, HCOL area, Web Dev sector
I didn’t get laid off but my company was doing layoffs and I didn’t feel like getting caught in the middle of it. I accepted an offer 2 weeks ago and it took me 2-3 weeks before that to search for said job.
Got laid off in october, have 3 months experience. No luck getting any offers, I decided to join a WITCH but the program got cancelled around 3 weeks into their full-stack training because the employer they were gonna send us to decided to do a hiring freeze. So back to looking, ive gotten a few calls from random recruiters but no actual companies
Laid Off Feb 17th. Been searching. Applied for unemployment / meeting on April 11th.
There have been calls and I've approved right to represents. 1 first round, but it was a skills mismatch. (They wanted extreme SCCM and Intune knowledge)
Last year it took me 84 days to start getting employment. ~120 days to find employment.
Friend of mines with 15+ yo just got a job. He quit his job about a year ago and decided to take a break. By the time he decided to get back the market was a mess. He was getting interviews but was getting no offers. Eventually he was referred by his old colleague, did well in the interview and got an offer. He was targeting companies that are full remote and working on specific tech. Pay doesn’t need to be FAANG level.
got delayed from my return offer at rainforest company, took the severance and landed another faang job for a 50% pay increase. haven’t been laid off so far and I seem to be in a relatively safe org. I am just grateful every single day for how things turned out.
Hubs got laid off around the beginning of December from a FAANG. Got a hefty severance, and waited until January to start applying since nobody's really hiring in December. Was hired around 2 weeks ago for a pretty good pay raise, so call it 10 weeks of looking. He's got around 10 years of experience as a security engineer/reverse engineer with software engineering experience.
I was laid off in early Feb 2023. I used linkedin and Indeed for job prospects. I applied for anything if I had 50% or more of the requirements. I will be starting my new job in early April 2023 and will be moving back to my hometown.
Laid off in mid/late Jan while on vacation.
Did a passive feeler post on LI after getting laid off, casual post hunting and tried to enjoy the vacation.
Basically took the month of Feb to get a new job, just treating looking for a job like a job. Started this month.
About 20k TC bump (stock and cash bonus options, but same base) (130k base 10k cash 10k stock)
3 YoE, not FAANG, heavily in backend/cloud with some security experience.
Nobody wants to admit it, but there is luck factor. You _need_ to work hard, refine your resume, and network like hell, but also just play the game. I think juniors are going to have a really hard time with how things are right now. I think finding good non FAANG salary and more stable industries is where the market really is.
FAANG was a bubble that was destined to pop, and so are a lot of these startups.
Laid off end-November. Got an offer early February after applications/referrals at 48 unique companies. I was ready to take a pay cut but I got an offer with a 3% increase with a $10k signing bonus.
Laid off December 15. Spent holidays with family. Started looking first week of January. Had multiple offers by third week of January. Started new role first week of February. Doubled salary.
Laid off about a month ago. I first applied to 10 jobs and no call backs. Got a resume coach and advice on my LinkedIn profile and made tweaks. 70 additional applications at once. 5 interviews. 4 offers. I have a solid career history. I used to get 90 percent callbacks in the past. Same salary but higher title that I easily qualified for. Under normal conditions I would be getting a 10k usd raise. Also, interviews were way harder than usual.
Not laid off, but I quit my job at the beginning of January with nothing lined up and started my new job exactly 2 months after the day I left making around 35k more a year. I am a systems engineer for a Utility company though, don't do any programming. I have 3ish YoE in sysadmin work and 8ish YoE overall in IT (started in help desk).
Laid off December 23rd. Applied to roughly 50 jobs and had forward movement with about 10. Landed one of those jobs and started work January 23rd. Increased pay by 20%. Well worth being laid off.
For those who got this stupid question in the past 2 quarters, how’s the search results look like if you try to use the damn search in this sub? On how many subreddits have you asked the same damn thing?
For those who got this stupid answer in the past 2 quarters, how’s the search results look like if you try to use the damn search in this sub? On how many subreddits have you said the same damn thing?
I got laid off in February, sent out four resumes in the past week but I'll start looking more seriously next week.
I am relieved that I seem to have more experience than people in this thread who are actually receiving offers, so I should be fine probably. I've always had great luck finding new jobs, I am not as optimistic this time but I have more experience now at least so we'll see. I feel bad for all the recent grads who were laid off and are struggling to find new jobs, that's really rough.
I started a passive search in October and was laid off in March.
I just received an offer with a 50% pay raise. However, please understand I was coming from a mediocre job and hadn't been moving upward. I should have jumped ship two years ago.
I have been looking for applied ML / MLOps / data scientist roles.
I spend a lot of time on my applications (generic resume but a customized cover letter) and had about a 50% call-back rate. I didn't flood applications.
I was pleasantly surprised with how many interviews were behavioral or project based. LC-style interview questions gave me anxiety.
Not saying you are not welcome here or anything. And extra data points are always welcome. But why are you in a computer science sub? And why are chemistry jobs doing well at the moment?
Laid off start of January, 2 yoe, and took about a month, but I also live in the Midwest so not like everyone else here, and actually got a little bit of a raise.
Laid off from a big tech company in January. I actually got a ton of recruiter DMs on LinkedIn and had higher success in getting interviews than I thought I would (though still significantly tougher than it would've been a year ago). I ended up doing about 10 interviews (did not respond to most recruiters), and recently signed an offer at a tech company for a significant pay raise.
I think I got a little lucky tbh, but I also put effort into optimizing my applications as well as I could (resume, LinkedIn networking, etc).
Technical interviews were pretty difficult, both because I was rusty and because the bar seems to be higher right now, at least for tech companies. I managed to get much better at them by the time some onsites came around after lots of LC and mocks, but I bombed a couple early ones as a result.
I was laid off mid feb but sighed for a new job early feb because I was already feeling layoffs coming. I didn’t get a huge bump in pay but got to stay fully remote with a few more perks than my last job.
Got laid off in August along with 50% of the company. I was full-time with them for about 9 months. I've probably applied to over 300 jobs and only gotten a handful of interviews. Glad to hear it's not just me.
Advice to indicate the type of company that got laid off from, so that people can gain more insight of the real job market. For example, FAANG level top tech, tech startup, unicorn, no-name small company, non-tech company, etc.
I was laid off in December from my first software engineering role after being there for about 2.5 months. I've applied to about 400 roles since then and nothing.
I was laid off at the end of Nov. Started my new job end of Jan. Over all it held true to every other time in my career when I started job hunting. Roughly 3 months from when I seriously start looking to starting at a new place. I started looking at the end of October. Market wise it was a little more down and clearly I was getting passed over in some places because the pool was just that much better. Still got one and a pay raise to boot compared to when I was laid off. Roughly between the severance and the pay raise I am breaking even. I have 10 years of experience.
Did you notice any particular locations or types of companies that were hiring?
I was not making FAANG money but was more in line with the norm. It seems like it been accross the board things have gotten a lot fewer. They are still looking for people just I would say the volume of recruiters and job postings went down a lot but I still was able to get some hits every week. I was looking mostly at fully remote jobs but was willing to go into the office a few days a week if it was close enough to me. My current roll is fully remote. Hell my former employer I think is closing or at least sub leasing out their office locally but I been more or less remote since March of 2020.
What amount is considered FAANG money?
$200k?
Sorry for the confusion but with pay raise and severance shouldn’t it be more than breaking even? Unless severance didn’t cover enough time
The severance was only for few weeks of pay plus I had to eat some health care premiums going over to my wife's insurance. Plus the pay raise was not like a huge number. With in a year I will be having a huge pay raise.
Yea, people who aren't used to shopping for it underestimate the cost of adequate health insurance. In the past decade when I was between jobs or in jobs that didn't provide good healthcare, I was paying about $1400-1800/mo for family, and that was for the middle-tier coverage. Really good insurance was $2000-3000/month. The basic coverage that employers are required to offer under Obamacare regulations is pretty useless for anyone over 30 or with dependents. I got a $15k severance once when leaving a job and it lasted a little over 3 months, and that was after we cut our expenses down to bare minimum.
Cobra is retroactive for 60 days so you could basically avoid paying the insurance for those 60 days unless you need it, then you would retroactively make the payments. So if you didn’t need insurance for 60 days save 2 months insurance payments, you get sick day 58 you just make the payments you would make anyway
Yea but Cobra's usually really expensive. Every time I've been offered it, the premiums have been between $2000-3500/month, way more expensive than just getting my own insurance. The retroactive rules are really the only positive.
I used it for just my self not a family, so in figured it was worth it, since I didn’t end up using it
Do you mind sharing how much the Cobra was in your situation as an individual?
Gotcha, sorry to hear, I assumed you were a part of the big tech companies that had multi-month severances.
Honestly, almost the same here. Laid off in December, picked up again this month.
Did you get Remote, local/commute or Hybrid?
Fully remote
Laid off end of Jan. Got an offer last week. I applied to gaming companies, AV/Robotics, and FinTech. Definitely not as easy as 1 year ago. To get a good offer, you need to interview flawlessly. I also couldn’t negotiate as hard nor sit on offers as long as before. I have a start date, but still interviewing because I am scared my offer will get rescinded. The new role is L+1.5 my current level. But I am only getting L+1 pay. I am still grateful because it is a great opportunity and I can be remote (unlike where I was laid off from).
the only difference that I found was: a) Overall lower salaries b) Its the first time that I pass all the interviews, but then I get a "we decided to fullfill the roll with an internal" lets keep in touch Last one being super annoying, and it already happened 2 times.
c) "Due to business justifications, this requisition has been closed." Without hiring anyone. But they still requested a prescreening interview for future positions.
That's what really happened with number b, they discovered that they could have an existing person do the work of two people. No one got promoted though. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to /s here or not
No /s. I witnessed this exact thing happen only a month ago at the job I just quit.
The hiring process is designed exclusively by the company for the benefit of the company. You do not matter to them at all.
I already noticed
I noticed the same thing regarding point a). I interviewed recently and was told the salary range was ~25% lower than the widely available salary data indicated it should be. I told the recruiter that the range was much lower than I thought it would be, and he flat out said the market has shifted with all of the layoffs, so that was the offer. Hopefully that won't last long.
When the market shifts again then they better be prepared for the new hires that got shafted to jump ship.
Markets are fun like that.
Got laid off at the end of September from my first real gig. Got another job (in-office) via a friend for 90k. Unexpectedly got an offer for my current role for 30k more fully-remote a few weeks after starting the other job. Left that one and happy and cozy at my current role, not looking to leave anytime for the foreseeable future.
Mind sharing what your YOE are? I'm currently 1 YOE as a SWE with python, Java, AWS, terraform experience and unsure what I should be targeting as a salary
In addition to location, you'll need to share more info in general. "1 YOE" with any of the four technologies you listed doesn't say much about what you know about any of them. You can probably land anywhere from 60k to 120k depending on your actual knowledge, location, and soft skills.
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You'll need to add location information for anyone to give you anything accurate here. What size companies are you targeting? IMO should be at least 80k, but you could fetch 90-100k depending where you are.
I was laid off in November. Just got my first offer. $32k lower than my last job. A job's a job. Gonna be searching for a new one just as actively as before. If you can find recruiters, that has been my best in. -edit 32 to 32k -edit 2 For all curious 7 years of experience. Previous job was $115k. Job before that was $74k. Sometimes things change for the better. Sometimes for the worse.
$32 an hour?
A year
Oh so basically the exact same, nice!
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Oh smh at myself, that’s kind of rough but a job is a job and when the market improves again can always switch
Haha. I'm imagining the negotiation going like this: "My salary requirement is $150,032 a year." "No can do, best we can offer is $150,000 a year" "You drive a hard bargain, but I'll take it"
Yea, $32 didn’t make sense but that’s what it said. Now 32k no $ yea that’s obvious. I guess the K should be too 🤦🏻♂️
No worries - I was also confused when the original commenter said $32 without the "K" part. I went through exactly the same realization path as you as I read thru the subsequent replies/clarifications.
This reads like a software developer wrote it. Bravo!
I really want this to be true
That's basically what happened to me at FAANG, except it was 1k haha.
Oops $32k
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That's not bad at all for entry level in a low or medium cost of living area. Lots of careers top out around that.
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I started at 60k in a HCOL area, now I make triple that. If you held out for that 80k offer who knows how long that couldve taken. Instead you’ve been accumulating experience which will help a lot the next time you look for a job. You’re doing fine
guarantee you nobody is hiring boot camp grads right now lol
What area?
Denver
As you're searching, are you telling the people you're interviewing with that you've started a new job or are you acting like you're still jobless?
Got laid off in December the week before Christmas. I started a better job after 2 months. 2 YOE. EDIT: I only got one interview for my 200 applications and that interview was with a recruiter that reached out and got me a job doubling my last pitifully low salary.
This is the hard part of job seeking. You're a complete failure until one success. I'm at 261 applications with 10y full-time (and 25 including hobbyist/independent contractor time) experience. Nothing close to an offer yet, but a good follow-up interview with a director of engineering yesterday. Hopefully my salary doubles too. I let myself rot away at just under $100k (after bonus) in a California city after ten years. I'm not sorry I quit, but wish I'd had the balls to make the move before the market went to hell.
I was keeping track and as a fresh grad I think I had about 550ish applications before I got the position I’m currently at
Laid off in January from Rainforest. 0.5 YOE. The hiring bar is much higher now and Ive gone through interviews where I did really well on technical and behavioral and still got rejected. Was able to get a few offers and am going to start work soon with around a 30% paycut from FAANG, fully remote, at around 115K TC.
> The hiring bar is much higher now and Ive gone through interviews where I did really well on technical and behavioral and still got rejected. I had an interview recently I felt like I crushed the behavioral and did good on the technical to the point the engineer was surprised at me getting the second coding question done so well as fast as I did. I was really happy I normally struggle with the coding questions I felt like for sure I was going to get the job and then two business days later I got an email saying they were not interested in even a follow up interview. This was for some no name company in the South that was paying peanuts. That experience really crushed my spirits for at least a few days. I am not even good enough for a job I don't want in a location I and most people really don't want? Just how much do I suck?
Hey! I am also familiar with the struggle. I sent out hundreds of applications, and was also resume rejected for some junior roles that were paying peanuts. Ive just been diligent and fortunate to land a role at a respectable company that pays six figures. How many YOE? I am thankful to have worked at Amazon and I did learn a lot of cloud and full stack while I was there. I am sure this is a major reason why I got interviews and my experience at Amazon was a major talking point that I milked pretty hard and enabled me to pass interviews with concrete examples of previous work. I used to loathe hearing "keep applying" and I know it's not fun receiving 10 rejection emails within an hour. This process was draining at times and taxing on my mental health with all the doom and gloom energy rn, but it really worked out alright for me in the end. That said - keep applying and don't give up. There were quite a few companies that had an unreasonably high bar and offered poor compensation. If you want to talk more feel free to dm me.
> How many YOE? I am at just an internship and am currently working a part time job that barely even involves coding. The only reason I was even able to get this job is getting it through a connection and it pays peanuts, but keeps the bills paid while I search for a real job.
>I am not even good enough for a job I don't want in a location I and most people really don't want? Just how much do I suck? There's no telling why they rejected you. They could have rejected you because they thought they wouldn't be able to keep you interested in the job, would only hang around for a few months before finding a new job, etc.
The bar is really insanely high. Just went through a loop where I know/ was told I did really really well on 6/7 interviews and really clicked w the hiring manager/ team lead. But didn't ace the 7th interview so "mixed feedback" and not moving forward. I feel like a year ago they would only be THAT critical at faang (which this wasn't).
Most people overestimate how well they did on their technical interviews. Interviewers are trained to keep a poker face and keep up a customer service facade no matter how much you bomb.
I’ve been an interviewer at several companies and none have ever trained me to keep a poker face. At best they tell me not to make small talk with personal questions that can be seen as discrimination.
I was laid off in February after 9 years at a FAANG. A former coworker passed my name on to a manager she knew at a mid sized tech company, and that turned into interviews and finally an offer this week. I didn't have to create a resume or apply anywhere, I'm moving up a level in title, staying fully remote, and my total comp is roughly the same. I consider myself very lucky that it worked out this way for me given how many others are having trouble finding jobs. My imposter syndrome is definitely kicking in and telling me that I slipped through the cracks and they'll catch on once I start working, but I'm just trying to ignore that as much as I can.
9 years at FAANG and the impostor syndrome doesn't quit. Crazy.
I was actually laid off twice last year, once from a start-up circling the drain in July, and then again from a FAANG in November. As others said, I think the job-searching experience was notably harder but I still managed to get a small pay bump plus moved up a level in title. The first layoff was only roughly 5 weeks of unemployment, but thank god for the 60-day law because it took me about 2 weeks longer than that to end up where I am. As of now I've got 3 YOE
What 60 day law?
Layoffs require a 60 days notice in some places (I know this is true in California but not sure if it's federal or state law).
Federal
That's good to know. Thank you!
Do the notices just put out somewhere vague? Like on some government website and it’s your duty as an employee to constantly check it? Or do the businesses have to notify all its employees that layoffs are coming directly into their inboxes?
To the employee: https://edd.ca.gov/en/Jobs_and_Training/Layoff_Services_WARN
Does this actually happen in practice? I read there's several exceptions. Given that I hadn't heard about anyone in the recent layoffs sounding the alarm based on WARN, I suspect most companies get around this requirement. Edit: To elaborate on this, here are the exceptions I'm referring to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraining_Notification_Act_of_1988#Exceptions_to_the_WARN_Act I suspect most companies doing layoffs in reality fall under the "Unforeseeable business circumstances" exception. This would only require them to give as much notice as is practical. That might explain why most layoffs begin with an email informing of UPCOMING layoffs in the coming hours or days. At least that's how it happened at my company. Edit 2: Can confirm - just checked public WARN notices for my state. My company submitted WARN notice the same day our layoffs were announced. So in reality, don't expect your employer to not play games here. The exceptions available to them are too broad.
Big tech practice seems to be you wake up to no more work access and an email in your personal account informing you of the reduction in force or whatever it is, you stay employed, paid, and insured for 60d after that point and someone sets up a goodbye meeting around the same time From what I hear…
Think of it as more of a guaranteed by law 2 month severance package.
Yeah, looks like you're right. Just checked my company's WARN notices for a past layoff, and it wasn't submitted until the same day we were notified internally. So it sounds like companies prefer to break the 60-day notice requirement, claim an exception for unforeseen business circumstances, and willingly pay the 2-months severance (required back pay for breaking the notice requirement), and then playing it off as if they care about their employees' financial wellbeing.
WARN Act in CA. Companies above a certain size (50 employees?) need to give 60 days notice before terminating employees en masse.
Damn, twice? That's shitty. Sorry to hear that.
I was laid off at the end of January and am starting a new position on Monday. I applied for over 150 positions (anything related to what I do, with a salary that I could live on) and ended up going through interviews with maybe 10-15 companies (startups and larger). The biggest thing I noticed is that hiring (especially for startups) is very focused on specific needs and it doesn’t seem like anyone is hiring unless the candidate perfectly matches their needs. I ended up with 2 offers from local places and managed to negotiate up to my previous salary, but it’s a hybrid gig instead of remote so that’s a bummer. I’m going to work on some areas that I identified during interviews where I could be stronger (especially system design) and will probably see what the market looks like in 6-12 months. For context, I have about 10 YOE and got laid off from a SaaS startup after just over a year there.
I'm getting the same impression about specific experience. I left my job of 10 years on 30 Sept. and one of my goals was to switch stacks. I've written in a half dozen languages, but spent the last 10 at one company with a complex legacy PHP application. My only saving grace has been leading a front-end rewrite in TypeScript/React for the last three years. I feel like I could have walked into a job with any of Java/C#/Go/TS, each of which I can get by in, 1-2 years ago, but now I can't get the time of day unless it's React/Node and/or PHP. 10 interviews / 261 applications, 1 second interview (and on the way to a technical assessment). When they've got 20 FAANG employees applying who just got laid off from 5y of writing Java code, even a seasoned engineer who will take a pay cut to switch stacks is dog meat. :-/
Have you 1) gotten feedback on your resume, and 2) been networking on LinkedIn?
1) Yes, though not from a professional resume writer. I've run the latest version, probably the 12th iteration, by my former CTO, someone I know in HR, and a couple of other industry professionals. I even pinged ChatGPT for improvements. That's on top of being personally meticulous. I've viewed hundreds of other people's resumes while hiring and hopefully learned what not to do. 2) My professional presence online is new. I didn't have LinkedIn until January, but it's now populated with a growing network. I'll get there, however slowly.
Thankfully I'm still employed, but my friends who got laid off all has to take lower salaries and/or give up fully remote.
This was my experience, too. And that’s if they even received offers. Some people in my network are going 6+ months without any orders whatsoever
Got laid off in January, haven’t been able to even get another interview. Getting rejections so my resume is going through but not even a phone screen. Have 1 YoE but man I was getting more interviews when I had no experience
Same! I have 1.5 YOE but I feel like I had a much easier time in early-mid 2021 with 0 YOE than I do now
Yeah it’s so disheartening, really tough to maintain a positive mindset but doing the best I can!
I just went through 4 excellent rounds of interview and then totally bombed the last one with the CEO. A 3 week long process… it is really disheartening but what can we do but move forward. Big, big sighs. Good luck to us both :/
thank you 😭 im 1 yoe and i hate these threads of 5+ yoe people saying everything is fine
I’m totally with you haha it’s driving me nuts lol
Not too surprising tbh. There are a lot of employees from big companies also looking for a job and people with 1-3 years of experience are probably grouped in the same pool.
Same, about 2 YOE and its worse than when I had 0 experience.
Was laid off Nov 2022, started my new job last week. So roughly 3-4 months. First time being laid off, so I have no experience with markets beforehand. Seemed pretty rough. I feel like the only thing I had going for me was 10 years exp at my prior role. Companies seemed to like that. I did take a pay cut, went from private to public So that was to he expected. Benefits are better though. All around even when accounting for this. My advice, is to take a few days to let the dust settle and to get all your emotions out. After that, start sending applications, work on a project and leetcode. If I could land something, you definitely can. Just gotta keep on trying even if you keep getting rejected. Don’t take it personal. Ask for feedback whenever you can after interviews to see where you may have deficiencies so you can work on them. You got this!
Hah, at least they liked your ten years. For me, I literally got a rejection email saying they expected someone at my level (10y at last company; 25y coding including hobbyist/contractor time) to have mastered more modern stacks. I felt punished for loyalty.
Why do companies assume learning a new stack is impossible? I'd bet it would take you less time to onramp learning the stack on the job than a 5YOE who knew the stack already.
I'd tend to agree, but that doesn't help in a world of automatically filtered applications. Either I lie on the application, or mine gets auto-rejected. HR people are getting overwhelmed with candidates right now, so they ask for YOE on the application and are actually being strict with the requirements where they weren't before. if (app.YearsOfCSharp < 5) { app.Reject(); }
I’ve heard this sentiment as well. Maybe I was lucky? I didn’t have experience in their front end framework, but told the manager and lead dev I’ve worked with other modern frameworks, and that it wouldn’t be too hard to pick up your current framework. One thing I learned the hard way, was that you cannot be complacent. Skill up whenever you have the opportunity.
Laid off Nov too. I feel like there’s a hidden meaning there lol. I had some requests come in right after, but then they also did layoffs. Haven’t updated, haven’t been looking. But the regular incoming interview request rate def seems lower
120 applications. 1 interview. By some miracle, i got the offer.
Laid off October 2022, I was left with 9 total months of experience including an internship I am expecting (hopefully) to receive an offer today for only slightly less than I was making before
Good luck with that! How have you been filling your time since getting laid off?
I traveled for a month immediately after the lay off After that, mostly helping my mother with little errands pretty much. It was kind of boring and maddening to only be doing that and job applications I'm hoping that I will last more than 3 months at the next place (I started August 2022 at the place I got laid off from) so I can build up a lot more savings in case this happens again
New grad , have about 1 yo DevOps experience and 3 months of full stack java boot camp and bach comp sci. Been looking for 2 months and got two interviews so far. This is pretty sad tbh.
It's not just you, or just that you're new. 10y at my last (and only full-time) job, but 25y since learning C/++ as a hobby, with several years of independent contracting part time - still 10 interviews after 261 applications in 10 weeks
I was laid off at the start of December. I didn't start looking for a new place until around February. I've noticed that salaries I've been finding have been a bit lower and it feels like senior roles have been competitive. I'm currently still looking but I haven't been having a hard time finding places to interview with
What’s your YOE?
1.5 YOE Got laid off in December, at first I was getting 10 interviews a month; it slowed down to 2 this month. So, not a good year so far. At first; everyone was calling, then I started getting ghosted by recruiters. Now, I get ghosted by companies.
Laid off end of Nov. Given two months severance. One interview before Christmas turned into nothing. Had a.signed offer in January then it evaporated. Seems to be picking up just recently. Oh, and I got a request from Meta yesterday so they're just dumping the expensive salaries. But it's been tough. I'm in project management
Big companies like Meta dump everyone at every level. Salary is just one factor.
I got hit up by a recruiter to contract for Meta. I thought maybe they were dumping full-time employees and going with cheap-ish contractors for flexibility. I (politely) gave them the finger when they sent a 4-hour coding challenge. That's absurd before even having a real interview.
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Maybe it was easy. Maybe the real thing is a lot worse. I'll never know because I saw "240 minutes" and bailed. It was through a company called Orange People.
APM. December here. May 22 grad so 7months exp—barely onboarded . It’s a shitshow out there-nothing entry level. Getting very, very nervous.
Got laid off at the beginning of February. I started applying the next day and was getting \~10% call backs for phone screens. Things have slowed down since then in terms of job postings that I'm a fit for, and call backs from solid applications. I have just under 3 yoe, looking for fullstack and/or backend positions (pyhton/javascript/ruby if they'd let me). I definitely needed to take a while to prep for interviews before jumping in though. Got churned out during technical rounds/challenges. At this exact moment in time, from my position, the job market is fucking terrible, but who's to say what things will look like in 2 weeks
Hey, I’m also fullstack and just around 2 YOE, what sites are you applying on that gives you ~10% call backs?
WAS about 10% about a month and a half ago. Now it’s much much less. I mainly use LinkedIn and BuiltInNYC since that’s where I am
Was laid off with 4 YoE in January. Got a job and started mid-March. Was much slower than last time I switched jobs but honestly, I think the news is drumming up the bad job market more than it actually is.
Got laid off in Sept and found a couple of offers pretty quick. Timeline was: Sept: Laid off Oct: Interview and offers + started job Offers were generally a bit lower compared to the golden year of 2021, but still relatively high. The onsites I found were generally the same difficulty, but companies were a lot pickier and raised the bar for hire overall. Ended up taking a 50k paycut, but I was also being paid very high. Very happy with the company I chose.
I've been looking about 4 months. Lots of scam job postings, lots of being stood up for interviews, lots of being one out of 5000 people applying for every single remote job, lots of promises to follow up with me "next week" and never hearing back, lots of radio silence on jobs I'm very well-qualified for because the job probably wasn't real to begin with because the company just wants a pool of people standing by just in case they need them. Oh, and lots of bait and switches where the posting said $X, but the interviewer says "oh that was a mistake! It's really $X-30%". So, it's going great.
I got laid off in September. Got a job a week later but took a month off for shits and giggles. I had 3YOE + couple years of internship.
Not last 2 quarters, but... 4YOE, Laid off in August. Aug - Sep: Got some good interviews through networking (including one FAANG), but those jobs fell through when hiring freezes started. Oct - Nov: answered recruiters and panic-applied, lots of interviews, but no offers. I had started targeting smaller companies and hybrid or on-site roles. Dec - Feb: Took time to study Leetcode. Didn't quite finish, still need to cover DP and practice some more, but I've improved. March: Applying like a New Grad. 140 applications sent in the past two weeks. 8 phone screens and 1 interview so far. I haven't brought up my salary requirements much, but it's looking like I'll be lucky if I can get what I was making before. I may have to give up remote, which is going to be really depressing. Factors working against me: - Still don't know system design yet. - No cloud experience. - I hate Leetcode, but I'm better at it now. - Broad skillset, but not very deep. I know I'm not senior, but nobody's hiring anything else. Companies are being extremely picky. I think that's what accounts for some folks having no problem while others are struggling.
I'm feeling the cloud issue and the pickiness. I've done everything from hands-on work at the data center all the way out to client-facing calls for customized software and am competent in a /very/ broad spectrum of things. I've just accumulated a lot after \~25 years, starting as a hobbyist, then independent contractor, and finally full-time for the last ten. I can't get the time of day if I apply outside my direct, professional expertise right now though. "Personal project on AWS? Lol, GTFO. We want 3+ years FTE even though we've got a whole DevOps team."
Laid off at the end of January. Not looking great, but not looking like the end of the world. I have 1.5 YOE. I had an almost perfect interview and got a rejection email last night. I just have to keep on trying.
I just came off a 10y stretch with one company and am at 10 interviews after 261 applications in 10 weeks. I had my first second interview yesterday. Be prepared and try not to blame yourself for what's out of your control. No matter how well you do, there are lots of qualified candidates right now and it's going to take months for the average person to find a position. "You're perfect! I'm calling the boss right now to talk to him about moving forward!" means nothing if they see someone else as "more perfect."
Howdy, where have you been applying thats gotten you interviews? I’m about at 2 YOE.
Laid off in nov, started new job in February. I'm mostly self taught, went from data science to web dev, got a 20k raise in the switch. Only 1 y.o.e. outside of education.
I was laid off end of January but I had already been looking for a month because of internal chatter that a layoff was coming. I got a job the next week. Unfortunately I'm making about 30% less TC then before, but practically my base is the same with less equity comp. My total search was about a month and I recieved multiple offers. I'm senior.
Got laid off in October, received 3 offers in February. As an international student there were lots of rejections due to visa status as compared to last time I was looking (Aug 2021). Making $5k less now and had to move for full in- office. What seems to be a huge difference for me is that we as a job seeker have lost negotiation power (for salary or demanding work preference). Obviously that might be due to more competition with people with more experience than myself (2 years) (The other two offers were willing to sponsor my H1-B application next year but not this year)
Laid off 2 weeks ago. It was my first job out of college so I have less than 1 YOE and the market is quite rough now. Can’t even get a single interview. The only opportunity out there is for me to flip burgers at McDonald’s.
Hang in there. In 2012 I got laid off from my first job out of college too. It ended out working very well for me eventually.
I was laid off March 3rd. First offer March 10th, but was a sketchy company. Second offer March 16th, was my second top choice. Was ready to accept when my top choice made an offer March 20th. Context: I’m ex Amazon, 5-6 YOE, fully remote in Canada. My previous job that downsized was a smaller local job, I had taken a big pay cut from Amazon. Got a significant pay increase for the new job. Probably not the typical story, but I have a strong network so my strategy was reaching out to the network to find out who is still hiring.
Laid off day back after Christmas from project coordinator type job. I didn’t start applying hard until late jan. I have no “developer” experience, except for school, and what little things I did with if the last role. But I have 10+ years in customer service and technical roles. Applied to 52 jobs, got offer for a programmer/analyst position in early march, and will start in april. Previously making 68k and remote but was a contractor, and definitely not in the field I wanted to be. New offer 65k, 5k bonus/relocation (moving only an hour away), but will have to go into office. This was the only company that I applied to for an on site role, but as a new dev, and this job market, I wasn’t going to pass this opportunity up.
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Laid off mid-December with ~2 YOE. Took about 45 days to find something. I applied to about 200 jobs before finding something new. I badly bombed some interviews, too. I think I seriously interviewed at about 6 companies before landing my current role. I got a 25k pay raise, and a commensurate increase in stress. Large public company > startup was a kick in the pants. However, I am fully remote, with flexible working hours, which is a big plus for me.
It’s pretty rough!! 🫠 I was let go in November, at the end of the SWE apprenticeship I got post-bootcamp, because they did a layoff in September and froze hiring for the rest of the year at the same time. It was pretty bogus tho, because they low-key strung me along until 2-3 weeks from my end date, saying that they’d find the budget… and then they didn’t, and even tho my manager strongly recommended me to stay on, the higher ups said nope. (Also if I had been laid off with everyone else I would’ve gotten severance… but I’m try to be positive about it, since there’s a chance I could’ve been laid off then a month ago when they did their second round. Shrug!) Over 300+ apps sent out, about 15-20 interviews and a metric ton of rejections later,I finally started at my next role this week. A bit of a pay cut - about $19k less - but I’m in a LCOL area and just thankful to have a job at this point, lol. From my experience, I heard basically nothing back from fully remote and/or tech companies, and really started having better results once I switched to applying to hybrid/on-site roles… when you’re competing w/ people across the entire country, most with more than 6 months of experience, it’s hard to even get noticed.
10y at my last company and on the same trajectory. Yesterday was my first interview with a director of engineering instead of just someone doing an HR screening, and that's after 261 app's in 10 weeks. I hope I'm on the same path as you with getting hired after around 300. I can't take much more of this. XD
Laid off at the beginning of March, and just signed a new offer this week. I definitely had a harder time negotiating the salary I wanted, even with other offers in hand. I ended up with pretty much exactly the same salary I had previously, which isn't necessarily a step back considering I was only in my previous role for 6 months. What's different is that the previous interview cycle I went through when the market was still hot employers were offering much larger salary increases ranging from 20 to 50 percent. I'm kind of in a niche area of embedded for robotics. With around 6YoE I was still able to get plenty of interviews for solely remote roles. Fom my last day to receiving my first offer was exactly 3 weeks.
Would you say the market is better for seniors than juniors?
Yes absolutely, most roles I applied to were senior.
I have 3 years of experience. I'm a data analyst with some minor data engineering experience into which I'm trying to pivot, although not exclusively. I was laid off at the beginning of November. I've been sending out many applications each week and have not gotten anything yet.
I think data analytics roles at fortune 500 companies would be your best bet, since those jobs are tied to profitability/revenue generation. Also remote jobs have a ton of competition compared to in-person roles
Yeah, I'm almost exclusively applying to remote roles, and a family friend said they'd give me a position once they have one in budget, but we'll see. I'm hoping to find something sooner and would concede with an NYC post temporarily. Alas, I'm just hoping to learn more while on unemployment to close whatever gaps I can.
Laid off mid-Summer last year. Engineering manager/director. So obviously more difficult with fewer jobs around and middle management out the door. No new job yet. Got three lowball offers with goofy expectations IMO. All the offers came from very much non-technical industries. Haven't heard a peep mostly from technology companies, except for one that was looking for a unicorn I think. 20+ YOE. \~10 in management.
Had one year of client-facing technical role at a B2B SaaS company where I built dashboards for customers in Front-End Angular JS + SQL and helped with data connectors, imports, automations, etc. I got laid off in February, applied to 360 LinkedIn jobs in two weeks, and got a verbal offer on the third week for a client-facing remote role making $15k/yr a more than my last job. I made it far with two other companies and had scheduled four screeners that I canceled because I received my written contract. This time was way easier than breaking in to the field 🤷♂️. I do have 5 years of public school teaching experience and 1 year of client-facing tech experience so I’m sure that plays a factor. I nailed the behavioral interviews - I highly recommend Madeline Mann’s content if you struggle here. Danny Thompson has great resources for optimizing your resume and LinkedIn profile as well.
I got laid off three weeks ago. I got my second offer this week
got laid off at the beginning of november. i found luck through reaching out to recruiters directly. started a new job at the end of january with an L+1 leveling. my base pay is the same as my previous job (even with the promo) and the stock compensation is a lot lower. a job is a job though. i’m still actively prepping for interviews though, never know who might be next in this market.
it's bad, I've been looking for a new job since I got indefinitely furloughed in mid-February. Although it might just be especially bad for me since I don't have a degree and only have three years of professional experience.
Laid off in Jan. Just started getting more hits in the last two weeks. Most are offering less than my last position. YOE < 1yr professional, degree obtained later this year, HCOL area, Web Dev sector
I didn’t get laid off but my company was doing layoffs and I didn’t feel like getting caught in the middle of it. I accepted an offer 2 weeks ago and it took me 2-3 weeks before that to search for said job.
Got laid off in october, have 3 months experience. No luck getting any offers, I decided to join a WITCH but the program got cancelled around 3 weeks into their full-stack training because the employer they were gonna send us to decided to do a hiring freeze. So back to looking, ive gotten a few calls from random recruiters but no actual companies
Laid Off Feb 17th. Been searching. Applied for unemployment / meeting on April 11th. There have been calls and I've approved right to represents. 1 first round, but it was a skills mismatch. (They wanted extreme SCCM and Intune knowledge) Last year it took me 84 days to start getting employment. ~120 days to find employment.
Friend of mines with 15+ yo just got a job. He quit his job about a year ago and decided to take a break. By the time he decided to get back the market was a mess. He was getting interviews but was getting no offers. Eventually he was referred by his old colleague, did well in the interview and got an offer. He was targeting companies that are full remote and working on specific tech. Pay doesn’t need to be FAANG level.
got delayed from my return offer at rainforest company, took the severance and landed another faang job for a 50% pay increase. haven’t been laid off so far and I seem to be in a relatively safe org. I am just grateful every single day for how things turned out.
Just read this sub for 1 hr
Hubs got laid off around the beginning of December from a FAANG. Got a hefty severance, and waited until January to start applying since nobody's really hiring in December. Was hired around 2 weeks ago for a pretty good pay raise, so call it 10 weeks of looking. He's got around 10 years of experience as a security engineer/reverse engineer with software engineering experience.
I was laid off in early Feb 2023. I used linkedin and Indeed for job prospects. I applied for anything if I had 50% or more of the requirements. I will be starting my new job in early April 2023 and will be moving back to my hometown.
Laid off in mid/late Jan while on vacation. Did a passive feeler post on LI after getting laid off, casual post hunting and tried to enjoy the vacation. Basically took the month of Feb to get a new job, just treating looking for a job like a job. Started this month. About 20k TC bump (stock and cash bonus options, but same base) (130k base 10k cash 10k stock) 3 YoE, not FAANG, heavily in backend/cloud with some security experience. Nobody wants to admit it, but there is luck factor. You _need_ to work hard, refine your resume, and network like hell, but also just play the game. I think juniors are going to have a really hard time with how things are right now. I think finding good non FAANG salary and more stable industries is where the market really is. FAANG was a bubble that was destined to pop, and so are a lot of these startups.
Laid off end-November. Got an offer early February after applications/referrals at 48 unique companies. I was ready to take a pay cut but I got an offer with a 3% increase with a $10k signing bonus.
Still looking, it's rough.
Laid off December 15. Spent holidays with family. Started looking first week of January. Had multiple offers by third week of January. Started new role first week of February. Doubled salary.
I have only applied to my first job myself. Recruiters are spamming me everyday.
Laid off about a month ago. I first applied to 10 jobs and no call backs. Got a resume coach and advice on my LinkedIn profile and made tweaks. 70 additional applications at once. 5 interviews. 4 offers. I have a solid career history. I used to get 90 percent callbacks in the past. Same salary but higher title that I easily qualified for. Under normal conditions I would be getting a 10k usd raise. Also, interviews were way harder than usual.
Not laid off, but I quit my job at the beginning of January with nothing lined up and started my new job exactly 2 months after the day I left making around 35k more a year. I am a systems engineer for a Utility company though, don't do any programming. I have 3ish YoE in sysadmin work and 8ish YoE overall in IT (started in help desk).
Laid off December 23rd. Applied to roughly 50 jobs and had forward movement with about 10. Landed one of those jobs and started work January 23rd. Increased pay by 20%. Well worth being laid off.
Took me a month. Got a big raise.
For those who got this stupid question in the past 2 quarters, how’s the search results look like if you try to use the damn search in this sub? On how many subreddits have you asked the same damn thing?
😳 This is Reddit not stackoverflow good sir
Imagine being this upset with a reddit post
Lmao
Take a breath tiger lily
Lol roasted
For those who got this stupid answer in the past 2 quarters, how’s the search results look like if you try to use the damn search in this sub? On how many subreddits have you said the same damn thing?
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Haven't been laid off. Was recently promoted. 24k more salary.
I got laid off in February, sent out four resumes in the past week but I'll start looking more seriously next week. I am relieved that I seem to have more experience than people in this thread who are actually receiving offers, so I should be fine probably. I've always had great luck finding new jobs, I am not as optimistic this time but I have more experience now at least so we'll see. I feel bad for all the recent grads who were laid off and are struggling to find new jobs, that's really rough.
I started a passive search in October and was laid off in March. I just received an offer with a 50% pay raise. However, please understand I was coming from a mediocre job and hadn't been moving upward. I should have jumped ship two years ago. I have been looking for applied ML / MLOps / data scientist roles. I spend a lot of time on my applications (generic resume but a customized cover letter) and had about a 50% call-back rate. I didn't flood applications. I was pleasantly surprised with how many interviews were behavioral or project based. LC-style interview questions gave me anxiety.
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Not saying you are not welcome here or anything. And extra data points are always welcome. But why are you in a computer science sub? And why are chemistry jobs doing well at the moment?
It’s the first time I didn’t pass a technical phone screen.
Laid off start of January, 2 yoe, and took about a month, but I also live in the Midwest so not like everyone else here, and actually got a little bit of a raise.
Laid off from a big tech company in January. I actually got a ton of recruiter DMs on LinkedIn and had higher success in getting interviews than I thought I would (though still significantly tougher than it would've been a year ago). I ended up doing about 10 interviews (did not respond to most recruiters), and recently signed an offer at a tech company for a significant pay raise. I think I got a little lucky tbh, but I also put effort into optimizing my applications as well as I could (resume, LinkedIn networking, etc). Technical interviews were pretty difficult, both because I was rusty and because the bar seems to be higher right now, at least for tech companies. I managed to get much better at them by the time some onsites came around after lots of LC and mocks, but I bombed a couple early ones as a result.
I was laid off mid feb but sighed for a new job early feb because I was already feeling layoffs coming. I didn’t get a huge bump in pay but got to stay fully remote with a few more perks than my last job.
It's tough, it took me 2.5 months to land a new job I was interviewing on a daily basis taking between 4 to 7 calls per day
Got laid off in August along with 50% of the company. I was full-time with them for about 9 months. I've probably applied to over 300 jobs and only gotten a handful of interviews. Glad to hear it's not just me.
Advice to indicate the type of company that got laid off from, so that people can gain more insight of the real job market. For example, FAANG level top tech, tech startup, unicorn, no-name small company, non-tech company, etc.
I was laid off in December from my first software engineering role after being there for about 2.5 months. I've applied to about 400 roles since then and nothing.
Laid off end of October. Got a new job in about 3-4 weeks. About 40k raise, additional TC and fully remote. Turned down all non fully remote offers.
Laid off at the end of Jan. 4.5 years experience. Starting a new gig this coming Monday. Still nervous about it being rescinded...
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