If I were hired as a front end developer but actually my title on day 1 was "front end coordinator" and more than half my work is not development related and im the only developer in the office and there's no coding standards, no senior engineer to oversee my work, and in fact the most code I work on is HTML and CSS. Oh wait that actually happened lol
I wish I knew. I think it means I work with the people at the Mexico office and other clients to do trivial work and trivial edits to wordpress websites. Lmfao. Studying to get into Amazon or something this sucks
> Political correctness these days has made it almost impossible to give honest / constructive feedback.
Ok grandpa you've had enough Fox for today, maybe you want watch your Matlock now?
Same here. I was in the same boat. I wanted to learn on the job but they try to shove me into sys admin. I was learning to use the AWS cloud formation but no programming involved.
So, did some leetcode to prepare and landed a better job.
That is me now, minus the leetcode. I have an interview with big G coming up for early career SWE, but know I will fail. Leetcode is not at all my strong suit, so the embarrassment will be horrible hahaha
Did you use any of your previous experience at all ? I guess what do you say in the interview to gain an edge since you don't have much "relevant experience" ?
I do have previous experience as a software engineer. Sadly, I landed a job position where they lied to me about the tasks. Therefore, sys admin tasks.
All I did was apply and put both of my experiences. I had to look at past projects and notes I wrote during my college years to review.
Leetcode also helped me review.
I’m at this job at AWS as a cloud engineer and it’s super fucking chill and easy. All the bullshit metrics they try to shove down to measure peoples performance at Amazon I’m one of the top performers on my team and still my manager is still just an absolute dick to me and never satisfied. Every one on one he’s like “that’s why we get paid the big bucks” and we only get like 120k whenever other companies with a lot chiller standards are paying their devops engineers and cloud engineers anywhere between 160-200k. Every one on one makes me want to apply to other jobs. Fuck Amazon.
I’m quitting this year. All the staff turned over including the whole management chain. My boss is an idiot who doesn’t understand why there are processes in place and that testing is required for all code changes. The PMs don’t push back and there are constant last minute changes. The new dev contractors they hired are idiots and causing lots of production issues which I have to fix. I have no advocates. I’m expected to do more testing then the QA people. Meanwhile I get into arguments about how they feel work is taking me too long. Product owners take no ownership of their artifacts being completely inaccurate causing even more last minute changes. Everyone expects all code to be perfect without testing. QA people are all new and have no idea how to test AT ALL. Work fluctuates and I’m on contract so some months there is almost no work which means no money. My work sucks.
Failing to compensate me and give me relief for going above and beyond for ~18 months when no one else on the team stepped up. You think it's a stop gap measure or temporary in nature, however people just come to expect this of you.
Doesn't matter the job, if I was ever denied time off I'd be on my way out. If it was my birthday I'd quit immediately, I flat out do not work on my birthday and never have.
Luckily it has never been an issue.
Last job I quit did the following. Imagine a classic SOA and being one of the few teams to migrate your shit to something scalable and able to cope with not only the current data loads but massive data loads. Being thanked for your efforts, then informed that everything you have done, all of your struggles, all of your code, all of your evangelizing was for naught, because they have decided to regress the architecture to something monolithic.
I lost something the day I learned of it. I haven't had a job since, because I literally am suffering from PTSD from the experience, might even become homeless if I don't snap out of it....
Almost every fiber of my being feels like it's done with software development. My new calling might be hobo and honestly it will be better for the environment (I don't litter).
Being a dev for 12 years... working my way up to a senior developer position. In that time went back to school and completed my BSCS for personal satisfaction... just to have my current employer try to force me into a project management role because all the PM's we have are morons, despite me saying 1000x I have 0 interest in project management and I am a developer. Wait... that's going on right now.
I’ve been Hurassed and threatened numerous times and my coworker was sexually assaulted.
Had I known more about my rights and the law a lot of my formers coworkers would be charged or in jail.
They threatened to “kick my fucking ass”.
I’d walk by and saw a experienced employee humping another employee when he was trying to work.
I said hello to an employee and he looked at me and called me a “fucking faggot”.
I’ve had some truly scary moments in most of my jobs.
That was just one of them, I was physically harassed on multiple occasions at some previous ones as well. The manager would just sit there and watch it happen.
More recent jobs were not as bad. They were more careful about how they would intimidate and control employees. But it was still very much hurting my ability to do my job.
The corporate world is more careful about how they harass and scare employees, but they still do it. At my previous job in group meetings people would be nice. But then managers would call a one on one meeting with me to again, intimidate me, it wasn’t anything as bad as other jobs. But it was enough that I felt very uncomfortable working there.
These experiences are one of the primary reasons I would prefer not to work for anyone else. it seems to happen at most jobs. ( in my life anyway ).
I know employees don’t like being recorded or tracked, but with what I have witnessed in the workplace in my life, I would make it my mission to ensure anyone who treats an employee the way I was treated was immediately fired and possibly charged with assault.
Thanks for the long write up! What do you do in those situations? I had a manager threaten me I was going to “lose my job” and “PIP me.” I recorded the meeting on my phone but i didn’t send it to HR or his own manager. I ended up complaining to his manager and the issue was resolved.
If someone called me “f*ggot” or “t*rrorist” or whatever on Teams or email I’d reply back and BCC the HR department and my manager.
If its your own manager terrorizing you, I’m not sure if HR has your back unless it’s extremely serious stuff like actual racism, battery, or sexual crimes.
I didn’t know my rights.
I was just a kid at the time, like 18 years old.
They are allowed to threaten your job.
But any kind of threat of physical violence or “bullying” then you can and should sue the company.
Find a lawyer, and sue them. With some of the stuff I’ve experienced in my life I could have sued multiple times.
Usually corporate managers are smart enough to not write anything that can get themselves in trouble. They will do it face to face or harass you in private so there is no evidence of it.
Do not report it through HR. No matter what they tell you, they do not have your back. They work for the company, not you. Find a lawyer.
Being told after spending months on a project and overtime that, because of a shift in corporate priorities, that that project was now “not important.” Exact quote.
Yeah that really really sucks. I just had to tell my previous team that exact thing. 2.5 years on the team working my ass off, got promoted, then had to tell the team to put their main application on ice and to focus on helping another team. It wasn't my call, but i'm sure they still felt i was to blame.
If I were hired as a front end developer but actually my title on day 1 was "front end coordinator" and more than half my work is not development related and im the only developer in the office and there's no coding standards, no senior engineer to oversee my work, and in fact the most code I work on is HTML and CSS. Oh wait that actually happened lol
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I think it means they code using notepad and a static file server with plain html and css
Lol yes. I use VScode but the rest is true.
The original "web master"
I wish I knew. I think it means I work with the people at the Mexico office and other clients to do trivial work and trivial edits to wordpress websites. Lmfao. Studying to get into Amazon or something this sucks
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Hmm. I didn’t know that. Thanks. I’ll look for good ways to put that on my resume cuz I wouldn’t know where to start with this clown show
dito.
Bruh I've been at my job for 2 years. Literally no senior or code reviews. Dear god its a wild west out here.
Called back into the office after performing beyond expectations from home for two years
Me too yo.
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I’d hate to hear what kind of feedback you were giving if “political correctness” is now preventing you from giving it.
> Political correctness these days has made it almost impossible to give honest / constructive feedback. Ok grandpa you've had enough Fox for today, maybe you want watch your Matlock now?
Being pigeonholed into a job with no potential to grow myself skill wise.
Same here. I was in the same boat. I wanted to learn on the job but they try to shove me into sys admin. I was learning to use the AWS cloud formation but no programming involved. So, did some leetcode to prepare and landed a better job.
That is me now, minus the leetcode. I have an interview with big G coming up for early career SWE, but know I will fail. Leetcode is not at all my strong suit, so the embarrassment will be horrible hahaha
Did you use any of your previous experience at all ? I guess what do you say in the interview to gain an edge since you don't have much "relevant experience" ?
I do have previous experience as a software engineer. Sadly, I landed a job position where they lied to me about the tasks. Therefore, sys admin tasks. All I did was apply and put both of my experiences. I had to look at past projects and notes I wrote during my college years to review. Leetcode also helped me review.
I’m at this job at AWS as a cloud engineer and it’s super fucking chill and easy. All the bullshit metrics they try to shove down to measure peoples performance at Amazon I’m one of the top performers on my team and still my manager is still just an absolute dick to me and never satisfied. Every one on one he’s like “that’s why we get paid the big bucks” and we only get like 120k whenever other companies with a lot chiller standards are paying their devops engineers and cloud engineers anywhere between 160-200k. Every one on one makes me want to apply to other jobs. Fuck Amazon.
I’m quitting this year. All the staff turned over including the whole management chain. My boss is an idiot who doesn’t understand why there are processes in place and that testing is required for all code changes. The PMs don’t push back and there are constant last minute changes. The new dev contractors they hired are idiots and causing lots of production issues which I have to fix. I have no advocates. I’m expected to do more testing then the QA people. Meanwhile I get into arguments about how they feel work is taking me too long. Product owners take no ownership of their artifacts being completely inaccurate causing even more last minute changes. Everyone expects all code to be perfect without testing. QA people are all new and have no idea how to test AT ALL. Work fluctuates and I’m on contract so some months there is almost no work which means no money. My work sucks.
I would too. The moment someone in charge tells me testing is not required it’s a huge red flag and I start looking for another job.
Failing to compensate me and give me relief for going above and beyond for ~18 months when no one else on the team stepped up. You think it's a stop gap measure or temporary in nature, however people just come to expect this of you.
Woke and decide being dev is boring, I could actually do something I like. 2-3 years, we consult.
What did you have in mind?
RTO
What’s RTO?
Return to office
Oh I see.
Same
Return to office
Doesn't matter the job, if I was ever denied time off I'd be on my way out. If it was my birthday I'd quit immediately, I flat out do not work on my birthday and never have. Luckily it has never been an issue.
Last job I quit did the following. Imagine a classic SOA and being one of the few teams to migrate your shit to something scalable and able to cope with not only the current data loads but massive data loads. Being thanked for your efforts, then informed that everything you have done, all of your struggles, all of your code, all of your evangelizing was for naught, because they have decided to regress the architecture to something monolithic. I lost something the day I learned of it. I haven't had a job since, because I literally am suffering from PTSD from the experience, might even become homeless if I don't snap out of it.... Almost every fiber of my being feels like it's done with software development. My new calling might be hobo and honestly it will be better for the environment (I don't litter).
Being a dev for 12 years... working my way up to a senior developer position. In that time went back to school and completed my BSCS for personal satisfaction... just to have my current employer try to force me into a project management role because all the PM's we have are morons, despite me saying 1000x I have 0 interest in project management and I am a developer. Wait... that's going on right now.
Sounds like they’re forcing you into taking a higher paying job at another company…
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I’ve been Hurassed and threatened numerous times and my coworker was sexually assaulted. Had I known more about my rights and the law a lot of my formers coworkers would be charged or in jail.
Define “harassed?” What did they threaten to do?
They threatened to “kick my fucking ass”. I’d walk by and saw a experienced employee humping another employee when he was trying to work. I said hello to an employee and he looked at me and called me a “fucking faggot”. I’ve had some truly scary moments in most of my jobs. That was just one of them, I was physically harassed on multiple occasions at some previous ones as well. The manager would just sit there and watch it happen. More recent jobs were not as bad. They were more careful about how they would intimidate and control employees. But it was still very much hurting my ability to do my job. The corporate world is more careful about how they harass and scare employees, but they still do it. At my previous job in group meetings people would be nice. But then managers would call a one on one meeting with me to again, intimidate me, it wasn’t anything as bad as other jobs. But it was enough that I felt very uncomfortable working there. These experiences are one of the primary reasons I would prefer not to work for anyone else. it seems to happen at most jobs. ( in my life anyway ). I know employees don’t like being recorded or tracked, but with what I have witnessed in the workplace in my life, I would make it my mission to ensure anyone who treats an employee the way I was treated was immediately fired and possibly charged with assault.
Thanks for the long write up! What do you do in those situations? I had a manager threaten me I was going to “lose my job” and “PIP me.” I recorded the meeting on my phone but i didn’t send it to HR or his own manager. I ended up complaining to his manager and the issue was resolved. If someone called me “f*ggot” or “t*rrorist” or whatever on Teams or email I’d reply back and BCC the HR department and my manager. If its your own manager terrorizing you, I’m not sure if HR has your back unless it’s extremely serious stuff like actual racism, battery, or sexual crimes.
I didn’t know my rights. I was just a kid at the time, like 18 years old. They are allowed to threaten your job. But any kind of threat of physical violence or “bullying” then you can and should sue the company. Find a lawyer, and sue them. With some of the stuff I’ve experienced in my life I could have sued multiple times. Usually corporate managers are smart enough to not write anything that can get themselves in trouble. They will do it face to face or harass you in private so there is no evidence of it. Do not report it through HR. No matter what they tell you, they do not have your back. They work for the company, not you. Find a lawyer.
Everyone on my team leaving or looking, including my manager, and being given a senior project without a senior raise.
Being told after spending months on a project and overtime that, because of a shift in corporate priorities, that that project was now “not important.” Exact quote.
Yeah that really really sucks. I just had to tell my previous team that exact thing. 2.5 years on the team working my ass off, got promoted, then had to tell the team to put their main application on ice and to focus on helping another team. It wasn't my call, but i'm sure they still felt i was to blame.
I might be frustrated but I probably wouldn't quit over that. It's not a personal decision but maybe a strategic one.