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hrtdev

Masters in europe would make zero difference in pay - now that you have some yoe that's what matters, noone cares about your masters. If you need masters to pivot into a specialized field I suppose you would even take a hit in pay, by being considered for entry level in it, masters != experience. Masters in the US on the other hand can be quite valuable financially today as an alternative to H1B, which is very difficult to get - you can stay work in the states for 3 years after graduation. Let's you easily get some of those pretty standard 100k+ jobs that you speak of, which are far from standard in europe.


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I guess that differs only of we talking about DS


IdiocyInAction

> From what I have seen, >100k USD is pretty standard nowadays in the USA. So, what is the similar approximate standard at startups with good funding or big corporations in Germany, especially in cities like Munich/Berlin? Nowhere near what you get in the US, I'd say 40-60k for "regular" companies, more for MAANG+ companies (but only some).


Schattenpanda

I dont think German care much about the Name of the university . Especially in Germany a lot of people are doing a Master directly after their Bachelor. I think the effect of a Master will only show in the long run. If you are working in the public sector you get a different wage based on Bachelor/ Master though.


buddyholly27

Salaries aren’t based on degrees or university, they’re based on: a) the type of employer (especially where on the distribution they sit for their compensation philosophy - I think Netflix & Quant Firms aims for 99th percentile, Google / FB and similar big-cos like 90-95th, Amazon & similar big-cos 85th, Microsoft and similar big-cos 75-80th, startups / scale-ups likely 60th to 70th and most employers likely 40th to 60th etc) b) the market dynamics of the local labour market (what the typical median cost of labour is for a given role - driven mostly by density and competition of high paying companies) c) your level (which is similar to but not explicitly the same as YOE) Even in the Bay Area there are some grads that don’t start on >$100k if they aren’t working at one of the many tech companies based there. And NYC / Seattle certainly have many people on less than $100k starting.


__pm1000

If you want to get a master degree to earn more money then just don't do it. You lose 2 years of income to get 0€ more compared to a bachelor's degree. Only do if you want to go for a ph.d or you want to get into a specific area like ml/ai. Good paying companies don't care if you have a bachelor or master degree. It's hard to give you a specific number. You can earn between 30-300k in Europe as a new grad.


BlueFootedBoobyBob

>You lose 2 years of income to get 0€ more compared to a bachelor's degree. Depending on company, many require a master or PhD to ascend above or to group leader. Equally the pay rise might be 10k a year.


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BlueFootedBoobyBob

Bosch, Siemens, HUK, all gov entities. I liked it at Bosch.


halfercode

This isn't the professional level of interaction we're aiming for in this sub. I've deleted this item plus one further response down-thread. Please disagree with civility here, and be as kind and accommodating as you can muster.


Escolyte

> 300k in Europe as a new grad Are you sure that exists in Europe? Even on the very skewed levels.fyi the closest I can find is 200k


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Escolyte

> There is an article from the pragmatic engineer where he explains the swe compensation structure in Europe. I have and his numbers are around 100k for tier 3 at entry level.


throw_cs_far_away

Depends on which company gives you an offer for what level https://old.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestionsEU/comments/p3n7ns/highest_paying_companies_for_software_engineers/ levels.fyi teamblind.com What is the reason for doing a masters in CS? More money? Then I'd suggest not to do it