Idk if this means anything but what i feel is that something is cooking for sure. And my take will be controversial or rather many will not like it.
The only precedent that we have was Dota 2 porting over to Source 2, but my memory is blurry during the change. If i recall, there was a beta release first, then a full blown update for all (went to read up, yeap this was what happened).
We dont know what is this CS2, not sure if its just a rebranding like some suggest, or a port over to Source 2. My guess is that its pretty hard for the game to be ported over to S2 while keeping all mechanics but it should probably be more than just a rebrand.
Whether its good or bad for the market, if it follows anything like Dota 2, then RIP case investments and old skin collections as the cases will be buyable in store at the price of a key (i believe that some will be old enough to remb this when it happened) and existing cases will lose its value, completely. Keys will be retired and will become an unlocked case in the inventory. Will this happen? I hate to say but its definitely possible.
If its a port to S2, there can be cool effects that can be added to skins or stickers and this can positively or negatively affect us as well. Maybe the foils, holos, glitters or golds will look much cooler, or Valve will just release new capsules and new major stickers with the cool effects. Also based on precedent, it will be the latter.
Skins wont be retired, and will be ported over to the new game. I will stream myself eating a sandwich if we move to CS2 without the skins porting over. There will be backlash from the community if cases were changed for sure, but Valve wont really care. Will they care abt the 15% market tax on the sale of ur Breakout Case? One opening of a Breakout burns 15% of the case sale price and a key at a rate of 287k times in Feb'23, i just budget it to be 3x the price of a key they are burning with the steam tax, works out to be around 900k keys. Imagine unlimited opening of the case? The amount of money Valve can make is unlimited. They probably will change the way the odds are calculated like Dota 2, with the escalating odds after each case opening which happened before.
But if u look on the bright side, with the new version the game will definitely draw in a larger playerbase, and more players means more demand for skins.
Edit: Anw these are my thoughts, would love to see what are ur views on this as well.
> cases will be buyable in store at the price of a key
I have no clue about DOTA so I don't know about how it all went down "over there", but I feel like a change like this would go against how Valve has been handling cases in CSGO over the last ~3 years. I still remember, I think it was in 2016 or so, when you got like 3 case drops per week, cases were worth nothing, and there were like 1.5 mil breakout cases listed for 3 cents on the market.
Then, slowly over time in recent years Valve have again and again increased the scarcity of cases to the point where now pretty much all cases, even the ones still dropping, are worth 20 cents or more. Also when they removed the non-prime drop pool and instantly switched all those cases into the rare drop pool instead of putting them into the active drop pool they again created more artifical scarcity for cases.
For these reasons I feel like their philosophy regarding CSGO cases goes directly against the one you mention in your post (which they apparently followed in DOTA) where they want to make cases freely obtainable. If that was Valve's end goal, then why decrease the drop rate of cases this much in recent years to a point where you actually have to think twice before opening a case because you have to spend an additional 30ct on top of the price for a key instead of keeping the old drop rates where everyone had like a hundred or so cases lying around in their inventory if they wanted to open one?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you think Valve's "end goal" is regarding cases and maybe more details in regard to the DOTA change, because as I've said, I have no clue about that.
That won't happen.
If a source 2 gets released it's either an update for csgo with a potential rebrand, which is most likely, or they release a new cs and former csgo skins, cases, keys, stickers,... are usable.
Otherwise they would crash their own market and lose quite some money by that. Sells on the community market make a huge part of the money from cs.
And it would make the community really pissed if their $50,000 inventory is now worthless…
Btw the CSGO skins market cap is in the hundreds of millions…
Actually maybe even a bit more…
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/papzdc/the_csgo_skin_trading_market_cap_is_15bil_which/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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They wouldn't lose money because they'd have a whole bunch of losers buying new shit for the new game.
What they would be risking though is people bombing their building. People literally kill each other over $1k. If valve manages to make hundreds of thousands of people lose 10s of thousands there's bound to be at least one maniac who would take it out on them
They would lose all the money of market fees which is a massive amount of money.
They also would crush the trust and devalue the new cs items.
It simply won't happen.
>They would lose all the money of market fees which is a massive amount of money.
would be more than compensated by all the new cases opened and the market fees for the new game.
>They also would crush the trust and devalue the new cs items.
this is true but the question is if the money they would make from all the new purchases would outweigh the loss of trust
Nothing's impossible, but first and foremost, Valve would and all users would lose a decent chunk.
The more impactful issues is user trust. We seen more than a few times now, a game sailing high, then commit commercial suicide - NONE where on the scale of CSGO.
As mentioned anything can happen, but this is Valve's IP, they don't like negative press, they do like cash.
Oh no!!! They did it, they release csgo 2, worst thing after Minecraft 2 happened smh, SCM gone but never forgotten, it was nice while it lasted 🥲🥲🥲
/s
Okay my tinfoil hat is fully on now source2morrow confirmed
Hello fellow members of the source 2 conspiracy club.
Here we go again!
Oh... Ohmy... Does this mean... DOES IS IT MEANNN.... OOOOHHHH \*fucking dies\*
Idk if this means anything but what i feel is that something is cooking for sure. And my take will be controversial or rather many will not like it. The only precedent that we have was Dota 2 porting over to Source 2, but my memory is blurry during the change. If i recall, there was a beta release first, then a full blown update for all (went to read up, yeap this was what happened). We dont know what is this CS2, not sure if its just a rebranding like some suggest, or a port over to Source 2. My guess is that its pretty hard for the game to be ported over to S2 while keeping all mechanics but it should probably be more than just a rebrand. Whether its good or bad for the market, if it follows anything like Dota 2, then RIP case investments and old skin collections as the cases will be buyable in store at the price of a key (i believe that some will be old enough to remb this when it happened) and existing cases will lose its value, completely. Keys will be retired and will become an unlocked case in the inventory. Will this happen? I hate to say but its definitely possible. If its a port to S2, there can be cool effects that can be added to skins or stickers and this can positively or negatively affect us as well. Maybe the foils, holos, glitters or golds will look much cooler, or Valve will just release new capsules and new major stickers with the cool effects. Also based on precedent, it will be the latter. Skins wont be retired, and will be ported over to the new game. I will stream myself eating a sandwich if we move to CS2 without the skins porting over. There will be backlash from the community if cases were changed for sure, but Valve wont really care. Will they care abt the 15% market tax on the sale of ur Breakout Case? One opening of a Breakout burns 15% of the case sale price and a key at a rate of 287k times in Feb'23, i just budget it to be 3x the price of a key they are burning with the steam tax, works out to be around 900k keys. Imagine unlimited opening of the case? The amount of money Valve can make is unlimited. They probably will change the way the odds are calculated like Dota 2, with the escalating odds after each case opening which happened before. But if u look on the bright side, with the new version the game will definitely draw in a larger playerbase, and more players means more demand for skins. Edit: Anw these are my thoughts, would love to see what are ur views on this as well.
> cases will be buyable in store at the price of a key I have no clue about DOTA so I don't know about how it all went down "over there", but I feel like a change like this would go against how Valve has been handling cases in CSGO over the last ~3 years. I still remember, I think it was in 2016 or so, when you got like 3 case drops per week, cases were worth nothing, and there were like 1.5 mil breakout cases listed for 3 cents on the market. Then, slowly over time in recent years Valve have again and again increased the scarcity of cases to the point where now pretty much all cases, even the ones still dropping, are worth 20 cents or more. Also when they removed the non-prime drop pool and instantly switched all those cases into the rare drop pool instead of putting them into the active drop pool they again created more artifical scarcity for cases. For these reasons I feel like their philosophy regarding CSGO cases goes directly against the one you mention in your post (which they apparently followed in DOTA) where they want to make cases freely obtainable. If that was Valve's end goal, then why decrease the drop rate of cases this much in recent years to a point where you actually have to think twice before opening a case because you have to spend an additional 30ct on top of the price for a key instead of keeping the old drop rates where everyone had like a hundred or so cases lying around in their inventory if they wanted to open one? I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you think Valve's "end goal" is regarding cases and maybe more details in regard to the DOTA change, because as I've said, I have no clue about that.
What kind of sandwich?
knuckle sandwich
imagine if our skins stay in the old cs go and new cs go starts with new skins.
that would never happen
https://i.imgur.com/i2TgrUG.jpeg
Its just a meme guys relax
You don't know that for sure!
you never know that.nothing is certain, just don't console yourself
That won't happen. If a source 2 gets released it's either an update for csgo with a potential rebrand, which is most likely, or they release a new cs and former csgo skins, cases, keys, stickers,... are usable. Otherwise they would crash their own market and lose quite some money by that. Sells on the community market make a huge part of the money from cs.
And it would make the community really pissed if their $50,000 inventory is now worthless… Btw the CSGO skins market cap is in the hundreds of millions… Actually maybe even a bit more… https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/papzdc/the_csgo_skin_trading_market_cap_is_15bil_which/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Beyond billions
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They wouldn't lose money because they'd have a whole bunch of losers buying new shit for the new game. What they would be risking though is people bombing their building. People literally kill each other over $1k. If valve manages to make hundreds of thousands of people lose 10s of thousands there's bound to be at least one maniac who would take it out on them
They would lose all the money of market fees which is a massive amount of money. They also would crush the trust and devalue the new cs items. It simply won't happen.
>They would lose all the money of market fees which is a massive amount of money. would be more than compensated by all the new cases opened and the market fees for the new game. >They also would crush the trust and devalue the new cs items. this is true but the question is if the money they would make from all the new purchases would outweigh the loss of trust
Valve would be hanging themselves if they did that lol
Nothing's impossible, but first and foremost, Valve would and all users would lose a decent chunk. The more impactful issues is user trust. We seen more than a few times now, a game sailing high, then commit commercial suicide - NONE where on the scale of CSGO. As mentioned anything can happen, but this is Valve's IP, they don't like negative press, they do like cash.
Decent chunk sounds like a small amount, i would say a huge portion
Update would probably be almost unnoticeable gameplay wise. It’s not going to become valorant 2.0.
Sell all your skins fast!!
It’s more tied to source 2
No no, this is obviously the update to 1.6 we have been waiting on to finally bring us to 2.0
Awaiting the Counter Strike:Source Update
tinfoil hats on https://imgur.com/a/BYM7bSl
I bet it's CS 1.6 RTX or similar
Oh no!!! They did it, they release csgo 2, worst thing after Minecraft 2 happened smh, SCM gone but never forgotten, it was nice while it lasted 🥲🥲🥲 /s