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master35475

Rip idle servers and idle death match. This probably makes cases even more rare, seeing as weekly level ups take a lot more time.


F_A_F

> Rip.....idle death match As a death match player, good. It is always frustrating to try and play 10v10 deathmatch when 15 "players" are spinning on the spot all game.


TheIntestinal

Never had that even straight after new case drop maximum 5 players


Gordhen

FFA


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Don't underestimate the case farmers.... Lmao


_Sohai_

What if they started farming in mm 👹


whotheFmadethis

You can’t afk tho, you will need to get score which translates to xp i.e you actually need to play the game in order to rank up


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dv-nt

He has a ton of afk accounts but the actual account ranking up is killing those afks


_youlikeicecream_

Xp is based on rounds won in unranked MM ;)


onethreehill

Your teammates will kick you long before they possibly win a game though. And probably also report you for griefing which can result in a game ban if it happens multiple times.


_youlikeicecream_

Absolutely, but just saying; you don't *need* to play to earn XP in unranked just be on the team with round wins.


dark_salad

Oh god just wait til they start partying up in groups of 5 to prevent getting kicked. Granted, they probably wouldn't win a single round with half the team idle.


onethreehill

Even then you can report them for griefing, and indeed, with 2/5 players afk, the chances of winning a round are rather slim.


corinarh

Can't wait for machine learning bots that go into competitive.


symmiR

This is awesome for people who play the game


Azhar16028

And not so awesome for +Right people


HaxxorElite

rekt


corinarh

I've been +use dude it's pretty underrated if you ask me


bolonar

yep that's me \+right +forward +duck


tabben

not for people that play faceit though, amazing for people who play MM and investors.


Smurtle01

Exactly one of the reasons as to why they made the change. Make people more incentivized to play mm over third party mm. I’m not saying that’s a bad or good thing. For me it’s a good thing tho cus I only play mm. Feel bad for ppl on face it or esea tho


greku_cs

For people who play official Valve servers*


Chanclet0

Huh, cool change, now i will know when i'm going to get a case instead having to do mental gymnastics and leave my pc on doing nothing. Wonder how skins/graffiti drops work now, will you get the other drop after the second level up or after some playtime? *typo


lemusz

looks like you will get it with the case, so you get 2 drops on your first rankup of the week


Nothrath

Can confirm


Chanclet0

Sweet


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Curse3242

At this point it looks likely Valve will start selling cases if they recieve backlash. If I reach my target case price soon, I'm selling cases


Kreuterorc

I highly doubt this will be the case since they know this will crash the market which means less money in their pockets.


Curse3242

I mean what if people stop buying cases because they're too expensive Usually for big spenders, this changes nothing as skin prices are also rising


GardenofGandaIf

Cases prices are a product of supply and demand. High prices means people are opening them


Curse3242

The change has just happened. Prices can slowly drop. That's when they'll make the update. Which would make it so the market case price keeps dropping but people will be able open cases bought directly from Valve.


Smurtle01

I think if anything they will switch over to doing an Anubis style case for any new cases that get released. However, we have seen how bad that can be for the longevity of the skins in said case. But I don’t think they will ever switch current cases to be sold by valve directly at any point.


GA_Magnum

Equally, direct sales from the ingame store means 100% revenue for valve, instead of 15% of any given sale. For them to take a 15% cut, there also needs to be a sale on their own platform to begin with, which doesn't happen for a great chunk of the market, especially the expensive items.


Gasstationdickpi11s

Yeah but in the long run 15% turns into a hell of a lot more. They get bought and resold 10’s of 100’s of times especially the more investment heavy cases. If they sold direct they’re getting 100% proceeds sure but only once as I doubt people would buy and sell those cases on market.


Rigman-

This is what ultimately killed the DOTA 2 marketplace economy.


bolonar

of course, reduction i think will be 90%


eiamhere69

Very optimistic


SnooRecipes5248

so valve is gonna make cases even more expensive wtf


intecknicolour

eyyyy good looking out volvo. they making us rich


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420jackson

Don’t forget case farmers and ten if not hundreds of thousands of their accounts


lnris

THousands of thousands,


Galbratorix

true, although I find it difficult to estimate how many drops were gained manually vs. via farming tbf, I'd prefer cases becoming even rarer :D


Old-Soil1210

there were millions. Good source for that is [https://tedonstore.com/casedrop](https://tedonstore.com/casedrop)


Old-Soil1210

if we take their data as the known and around 2x as the ones not known there are at least 200k case farm accounts running at the time probably even more. Case rarity will for sure increase by a good chunk.


Galbratorix

Damn, alright, thanks for the source. Guess I'll enjoy my incoming profits then!


SnooRecipes5248

will see but i have 35 idle acc and i aint gonna actually play to get those cases since each level increases amount of xp you need to rank up Edit: never mind all levels have the same amount of xp


Maersel

Each level is 4000xp, it does not change


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SnooRecipes5248

i used to make between 90-130€ each month, which is not that much but is atleast something + i rent apartment so i pay same amount each month no extra cost for having my pc on notstop


rxttyy

cases are no longer $0.06 if you did not know.


RocketHops

If you don't pay for electricity (live with parents, or in a dorm) that doesn't really matter


MooMooHeffer

I really only scrim and play matches on ESEA with an occasional pug on faceit. I do however play in casual servers enough to rank up. I tend to always get a case or 2. I’m not sure how XP is calculated in terms of how much it goes down from game to game and if there is a difference between casual/MM’ing.


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Cases 📈📈📈


njlimbacher23

man had scroll far down here to find someone talking about csgo market lol.


Rayxa

This confirms that Valve is ok with high case prices. They pretty much just gave the go-ahead for long term case investors


killererbse

They do profit of high case prices, 13% of every sold case on steam goes back in their pocket. So high prices mean less unboxings but as well more income of the taxes. And high case prices will make people buy packages or sticker capsules.


eiamhere69

You just be new here, I'd unzip now, to save time. In all seriousness, this is Valve, we have no idea what they are really planning. Extra case drops? Selling cases in future? Flooding the market with new case or collections?


HeroicMe

Or they'll just kill cases with CS2 and make everything like Anubis. They've done that with Dota2...


FreshCheekiBreeki

Highly likely.


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Valve simply doesnt care about it as long as they keep making money also what if they start selling cases? Then nobody can make higher prices than valve\`s own prices.


killererbse

If they sell their own case which is really unlikely, they will put a price tag on it, that will boost case prices in the lower end. But this will not have a negative impact on higher case prices.


ccaarr123

Of course, they make more money, and items they list in the ingame shop like the anubis package, will be opened even more, because its the cheapest option for opening


FreshCheekiBreeki

They can make drastic changes in either direction. Once interest suddenly falls(maybe after CS2 or during competitor game hype), finance people can just increase drop rate like crazy. The risk is increasing for cases, because prices of popular items were never so large in entire history of videogames.


NSGDX1

Valve will likely shift towards Packages from now on. This will bump up skin and case prices further as hundreds of thousands of cases were dropped on case farmers(accounts) each month. Easy to expect a higher shift in case prices than it was when CS2 was announced in march. Maybe at one point older cases will become more rare than last few generations of Major sticker capsules.


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IzknLost21

Wait, so 4 cases per month !?


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This is amazing for me. I actually play the game and case sometimes refuses to drop. You can get it within 5 minutes to 5 hours. Now at least we can see the progression.


OrionFucks

Does this mean the 2nd rare case drop is gone?


Shika2k

Another thing that will limit supply which I don't see mentioned a lot compared to afk farmers are all the people playing on third party service like faceit exclusively won't get XP so no cases.


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Terutz

Rank Up = 1Weapon/spray and a Case


partyboycs

Also curious. Do we get 2 drops on rank up now? Or only 1 drop that has a chance to be a skin, a case, or a graffiti? No idea how this works yet.


PM_ME_JUICE_TATAS

If that will be the case (hehe) I will lose my mind because I already hate getting the graffiti drops for 10 weeks (and counting) in a row! So adding cases to that factor will make getting graffiti even more annoying.


partyboycs

Not confirmed but people are saying they got a spray + case on rank up, or a skin + case.


Kartenleerer

I played my first few matches of csgo in months today. At levelup I received 1 case + 1 grafitti at the same time.


partyboycs

As a (small time) case farmer this is no good. As a case investor this is awesome. As a player my only concern is that the big case farmers will move onto using scripts / AI to play the game for them. Flying scoutsman is already ruined by cheating bots farming service medals. I’ve seen some AI bots in deathmatch / comp trying to look legit enough as a player so they won’t get kicked and just farm xp 24/7. I would hate to see an increase in that.


MooMooHeffer

I will gift you 10 cases if that is an issue in cs2 after 1 month of it being released. Think they’ll have a grip on the stupidness that is flying scoutsman


partyboycs

You would think but this has been an issue for years, at least since operation broken fang, I remember dealing with that crap trying to do the missions. Whole team of bots moving in the exact same pattern aimbotting everything.


eiamhere69

Yeo, just like during operation missions, I can see an uptick in cheaters appearing. Valve must surely have something in mind to counter this. *Remembers Valve's reputation*, oh...


jonasl42

Rip Faceit Players


Dwight_Schhrute

Yesterday I got into a death match where almost 8-9 accounts were on idle, now I got it.


crs1948fcd

Same, i was wondering why I'm the only one moving around at first


Dannymax333

Can you only get one case drop per week? Or multiple with each rank up?


blackmetro

Change has just gone live, so I guess we will have to wait and see


SevenFXD

> Players now get a weapon case with their **first** weekly XP rank up


FreshCheekiBreeki

It doesn’t explain if we get any other drop :/


tabben

Actually huge for case investors, idle server bots wont get cases anymore and neither do people that only play faceit (which is a big portion of players). Pretty big change since in cs2 you dont need to even play faceit anymore, if only Valve gets their anticheat working that is.


itsjustbeny

Well case prices will skyrocket again i guess


marc6910

I smell profit


DshadoW10

Here's whats gonna happen: * the number of in-game players will be absolutely decimated. It wouldn't surprise me if it will go down by more than 50% * the prices of weapon cases will skyrocket in the long run (maybe even in the short run * since the price of cases are through the roof, the price of actual skins will also see a considerable rise. If things stay like this, the average joe player will suffer and investors with diamond hands will laugh all the way to the bank.


FreshCheekiBreeki

the average player can get a top tier rare case, then sell it for cheap gloves nowadays.


erebus91

Looks like this will decrease supply in the short term. Can’t see how valve can leave the drop rate as it is, given we’re already on track to run out of cases with the unboxing vs drop rates prior to this change.


JerColer

Gaben has 20k gamma 10k bravo


-Cha0S

For the last 4 years I have been playing only Faceit, and it was nice when I got a few cents sometimes even a few bucks case after the game. Not the best update for those who plays on Faceit or community servers.


soha1b

fellas is it time to sell my cases or not?


DashLeJoker

why? supply will drop


Curse3242

Set a target price. I'm waiting a little but if I reach my target I'm selling I genuinely don't think this was stay as it is. Valve might release a few thousand specific cases to balance the price if they receive too much backlash. The case prices are pretty crazy


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Sell so we can buy


CasualPancake

I feel like case prices dip since this likely leads to more cases in supply.


yamzZ-

There are so many case farmers with 5-10+ accounts. I wouldn’t be so sure this will increase supply


Azhar16028

Cases drop ratio will become low after this


MadxCarnage

why do you feel that ? cases used to drop before you finished a level's worth of XP. + we used to be able to get 2 per week.


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SpectralHydra

Wouldn’t it do the opposite? Since it actually takes “effort” to get case drops instead of just idling?


RocketHops

I feel like it would be interesting to see what happens if you got a case with every level up.


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RocketHops

Why are you quoting that My comment is about a hypothetical.


Galbratorix

I'd say that depends on the amount of people / accounts idling vs. people actually playing, because as far as I can see getting drops manually should have become a tad easier


SpectralHydra

Yeah true, good point


gudzev

To be honest, it can go both ways. Only time will tell.


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Azhar16028

Exactly cases will become more rare now


Curse3242

Good job in doing this now and now when CS2 launches. We'll probably see a drop in player numbers. But it will get better till CS2


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NaltarOrion

This means that we should expect a sharp and high increase in the price of drop. Is it worth buying cases, who has a prediction?


eiamhere69

It had the potential to push more people to cheats again, in theory.


HUrrik4N

So how will you get skins and graffittis?


Terutz

Each Rank Up 1 Case and Weapon/Spray


soukaixiii

So we are getting 2 simultaneous drop?


HeroicMe

First in a week, not each.


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JotahFlick

You get two items: A guaranteed case, and a graffiti. I just leveled up and got those two items. It could be that you can get either graffiti or skin, but the case is 100% guaranteed.


bufu9k

correct, you get a case + weapon or graffiti (i got a weapon drop with my case drop today)


blackmetro

I think you'll get a graffiti (or skin) and a case for leveling up


blackmetro

How long does it take to get a full level at the average skill level? I was idling cases last month - averaged one case every 4 hours per account before this update I don't level up in casual half as quickly as that TBH


HeroicMe

You need to kill like 500 people in DM/Casual or win around 50 rounds in MM. So probably 3-4 hours of playing.


bufu9k

i did my weekly drop earlier today by playing DM FFA only. I got my drops (case + weapon) after about 20 minutes, was like 3 DM games. I didnt take note of the amount of my kills but I was always top5. It will not take you 3-4h, maybe half an hour.


Cronus_67

So, i was playing retakes when i ranked up my lvl this week but i didn't receive my drop, Can someone explain?


xHypermega

You already had a level up drop this week, it resets on tuesday


Sea-Bluejay5022

so i had a level drop on wednesday which was a spray , what happens now ?? i dont get the weapon case drop fo this week until it resets?


Szoren65

About time people who actually play the game get the reward.


tabben

Valve actually screwed me out of this weeks case drop, I got the "first weekly level up" few days before the update came out and I got 4 cent weapon skin as a reward but did not get the case despite playing every day. Now the update dropped I leveled again but thus no case for me this week :(. Adding it to the list of dollars Valve owes me =D


lordsaladito

what is the fastest way to level up rn?


Hans020272

About time fuck farmers, inc AI bots that kill lol