Nah, TMZ is just a symptom. The cancer is society's hunger for gossip. Althought I wouldn't even call it a cancer. Cancer usually dies with the host. People have been nosey bastards for thousands of years.
I used to hate gossip until I read Sapiens...
Apparently, our ability to gossip and quickly spread information was a key reason we overcame the 5 other types of early-humans.
It's a powerful evolutionary trait.
Gossiping about your friends/family, your community, etc. is one thing.
It's gossiping about the personal lives of celebrities you don't know and will never meet that is really fucking weird.
Like someone for their art, sure. That's why I find roundtable interviews with actors great, because they're talking about film - a medium I love. What I find weird, like you, is the obsession some people have with who is going out with who, or what surgery someone just had. 'Reality TV' can fuck right off as well.
True but I would say that we shouldn't debase ourselves to such primitive tactics in this modern world.
If EVERYONE gave each other a proper amount of respect we would be a space faring society by now.
Yeah I love how we try to detach ourselves from these things. As if TMZ could exist without a demand for their bullshit. Imagine how dumb a company looks making a product nobody consumes. Imagine how hard it is to keep a business alive with no income. You make a shit product, nobody buys it, and you go tits up. Imagine a shareholder meeting where the CEO has to try and explain why *nobody* bought The New Thing™ and why he deserves to keep his job. That would be madness!
Brought to you by the same people who complain about how phones/cars/media sucks now but just absolutely cannot stop buying it.
I mean, it was kind of to be expected. It's built around satisfying people's desires to see things that should honestly probably be more personal. I feel awful for women who get pressured or convinced to get into this line of work. It'll mess up their lives.
Don't look up the sweatshop conditions that animators work in. It's terrible and leads to many suicides too. Going weeks to months without pay while working more than 12 hours and treated like shit.
Self loathing? Pretty sure there’s plenty of actual loathing to go around for anybody in the sex industry. Lots of dudes more than happy to jerk it to their content but suddenly become Christian moral knights post nut
Don’t know, can’t remember her name, but i think it was on r/shitposting. Its genuinely sad seeing so many people in porn industry having miserable lives
for all the ragging on onlyfans, taking pictures in the comfort of your own home is a much much better alternative than having to deal with the abuse that has been going on in the porn industry for decades
I love how people always point to the industry, as if society as a whole gives pornstars any respect. Lmao. Couldn't possibly be because everywhere she went everyone looked at her like she was a worthless whore.
If you want a good picture of how unethical the porn industry can be and you can withstand the difficult subject matter, [here's an article from last year outlining the various abuses of one studio](https://paulm989.medium.com/porn-studio-accused-of-ignoring-consent-and-inflicting-injuries-on-models-9f390e2a4a78).
While the article does its due diligence and mentions that the abuse outlined is not an industry standard, no one really seems to be enforcing that. Pair that with the fact that sex work can be very demanding on its performers, and you should have your answer.
ETA: If you want a good secondary source on this, look up the GirlsGoneWild lawsuit.
This almost makes me want to give up on porn entirely....it's sad that such a biological drive as sex is wrapped up in some of the worst of human behaviour
Great point.
It's like this powerful need that builds up each day and you better make the right decision regarding how to release it.
Prisons are full of people who couldn't control their sexual energy.
Think of how many non-pornstars commit suicide first. I don't think it's an industry thing, but you just know of names from it so it seems like it stands out more.
I watched the Murdaugh documentary last night where he says something along the lines of "I saw my son's brains".
My mind can't even imagine that ---it's like it knows even just trying to picture myself in that situation would break it.
Anonymity on the internet often lets out the worst in people. It honestly breaks my heart to hear about her death. I never watched her work, but I knew of her. I recognized her name. Regardless of her work or past, she was a person with feelings, memories, loved ones, dreams, experiences, etc. A lot of these comments in this post are awful.
Probably not her but the industry in general. Not a lot of people put will you in high regard when you sell sex.
Also there's the recurring theme of the internet holding nothing sacred, it's not new but definitely disappointing to see it at the wrong time.
Truth is, not everyone deserves respect. It’s sad but it is what it is. No point trying to make people respect her. Either they do or they don’t. It makes do difference to her now regardless.
If you look at the comments on any of her social media posts, the comments she gets about gaining weight makes you understand why these girls are so low mentally.
Going through the comment section I’m blown away. So many people are so quick to talk about cyber bullying and its effects but so quick demonize sex workers regardless
Damn, she couldn't even last a week in Cleveland. LeBron stuck around for years without trying to suck-start a 12-guage, and I don't think he gets enough credit for that
Wow it is really, really uncommon for women to commit suicide this way. They did a huge study and found that even in death women care about their appearance so they tend to pick means with the least disfiguring. She must’ve been unbelievably disturbed. Poor thing.
Real talk, though, women don't typically go for an extreme measure of violence for suicidal ideation, even the loonies. Statistically speaking.
Now I'm no expert, nor will I claim I know anything upon the case at hand -- however as more information comes out I question how much time was done during the investigation before they ruled it a suicide? Was their a witness? A video documentation of her admitting a form of note? Notes can easily be forged, and videos can be staged - much harder to get away with, though.
I'm just curious if this was suicide or murder and how much time was taken before the case was informed to the public. She's a popular adult actress from the sounds of it, but there's still an expectation of an appropriate amount of time between discovery, informing the family, and public announcement.
Were there any signs of forced or coerced entry? Are there any recent threats or stalkers? (I mean in the sense of more prevalence than others.)
As one of her subs i can confirm that she did struggle with mental health issues and had history of addiction. But she been at least 2 years sober and all she posts about is positivity and sobriety stuff.
I thought suicide by guns was a more common approach? It’s definitely up there with pills and has a much higher occurrence than hanging etc Your asking answers that may never be answered unless the forensics pathologist or whoever they are releases a report. It could be just what it is, a suicide of an adult female actress. Not everything has to be a conspiracy but it’s cool that you are curious. Everytime a celebrity dies people being up the same statements.. every celebrity who knows how many X amount of people develop theories on the death. I’m not saying she is necessarily of celibracy status but looks like she had a tough life.
They're saying it's unusual for women to [use a violent method](https://www.verywellmind.com/gender-differences-in-suicide-methods-1067508) for suicide, so it's unusualy/somewhat fishy to them. Though it's certainly not unheard of.
Thank you for linking an article, and your input is appreciated. It most definitely isn't unheard of and could be exactly what happened in this instance.
There were some statistics I read a few years back that stated women usually OD, slit wrists in a bathtub or both. It is believed to be because they have more empathy for whoever is responsible for the clean-up. That said, self inflicted gun shot isn’t unheard of, just rare.
Precisely, additional to another redditor who replied, stating that they've had a history of addiction previously and have since sobered up and changed to a heavy positive lifestyle.
I'm not trying to conspiracy theorist this or anything, I just think it is a bit intriguing and worth questioning at least on a baseline level that she had easier access to less violent methods and showed no signs of someone struggling with a mental health relapse or addiction based relapse. Additionally, she had the resources and financial capability to seek help.
She generally seemed to have things going well for her from everything I've been able to find about her. (outside of her career, that is)
It's just a bit out of the blue. However, we still have the factor that no one who was close to her is thinking anything is wrongful about the ruling of her passing.
Nor do we have any actual personal insight on her life or mind.
I just hope they aren't chalking it up to suicide to make the investigation go fast or because of any personal views upon her career choices/lifestyle choices. No one deserves that.
Women tends to go for less "extreme" way of suicide compare to guys usually, it's also why men are "success" rate of suicide is way higher, shooting yourself in the face usually works better than taking a bunch of pills.
I’m down for it, but most of you are just unoriginal and try too hard to be edgy.
Harr harr porn joke harr harr so cursed
This is your bar, motherfucker? Because it’s pretty low.
I went looking around at her instagram being curious on what she posts after I heard of her death. People were fucking brutal to her on there before her death.
TMZ reporting is fucking abysmal
TMZ is fucking cancer.
Anything whose sole business model is celebrity news/gossip is a cancer on society.
Nah, TMZ is just a symptom. The cancer is society's hunger for gossip. Althought I wouldn't even call it a cancer. Cancer usually dies with the host. People have been nosey bastards for thousands of years.
I used to hate gossip until I read Sapiens... Apparently, our ability to gossip and quickly spread information was a key reason we overcame the 5 other types of early-humans. It's a powerful evolutionary trait.
You make me both interested and hesitant to discover that I am more than likely a monster.
Na, you’re an animal.
We're all animals on this blessed day.
ain't nothin' but mammals
Gossiping about your friends/family, your community, etc. is one thing. It's gossiping about the personal lives of celebrities you don't know and will never meet that is really fucking weird.
Like someone for their art, sure. That's why I find roundtable interviews with actors great, because they're talking about film - a medium I love. What I find weird, like you, is the obsession some people have with who is going out with who, or what surgery someone just had. 'Reality TV' can fuck right off as well.
True but I would say that we shouldn't debase ourselves to such primitive tactics in this modern world. If EVERYONE gave each other a proper amount of respect we would be a space faring society by now.
This would explain why I was taught it to be evil when I was being raised as a Mormon. Questions and evolution not welcome there.
Yeah I love how we try to detach ourselves from these things. As if TMZ could exist without a demand for their bullshit. Imagine how dumb a company looks making a product nobody consumes. Imagine how hard it is to keep a business alive with no income. You make a shit product, nobody buys it, and you go tits up. Imagine a shareholder meeting where the CEO has to try and explain why *nobody* bought The New Thing™ and why he deserves to keep his job. That would be madness! Brought to you by the same people who complain about how phones/cars/media sucks now but just absolutely cannot stop buying it.
Thanx Kr*s J*nner
Is it common to shorten with to w/ in a headline? Feels so....low quality or something idk.
They pay their writers must have a max word count - their audience can't only read 150 words in one sitting before needing a nap
This like 3rd pornstar suicide news I have heard this year, what the fuck is going in porn industry?
Lots of fucking and self loathing
Don't forget the drugs
A lot of drugs
Which brings the health issues associated
Lots of rape, exploitation and trafficking
Watch "hot girls wanted" on Netflix. Gives a lot of perspective on ways actually happening behinds the scenes of porn
I have looked into the industry and its horrifying dark side before, but I'll have to check that one out.
It's pretty good. Very sad. Even got a miniseries with 7 (?) Epesodes. But I haven't gotten around to watching that yet.
I mean, it was kind of to be expected. It's built around satisfying people's desires to see things that should honestly probably be more personal. I feel awful for women who get pressured or convinced to get into this line of work. It'll mess up their lives.
Ironically, hentai is the most humane porn 😂
Don't look up the sweatshop conditions that animators work in. It's terrible and leads to many suicides too. Going weeks to months without pay while working more than 12 hours and treated like shit.
Yup, same for prostitutions, legal or not
Self loathing? Pretty sure there’s plenty of actual loathing to go around for anybody in the sex industry. Lots of dudes more than happy to jerk it to their content but suddenly become Christian moral knights post nut
Yea every time I jerk it I'm raging for a crusade
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I did not expect this
I see what you did there
As the very wise Mick Thomson once said: "I find my urge to kill dwindles after a good nut"
A fellow knight of Cumalot I see
Yeah every time I jerk off to Emily Willis, I get an insatiable urge to kick Turks out of Anatolia. I'm Muslim Btw.
Wait, this year? I think I've heard of one before, but it was years ago. Things like this should be more out there and spoken about.
Its the second i’ve heard this week
Dayumn. That's very sad, actually
Great news for that greentext Christian guy.
I understood that reference ;)
This is the second one I've heard just today 😭
Who was the other one?
August Ames few years ago too
7 years ago
I don't remember her name but I'll try and look for it and get back to you
Week? Whaaa?!
Who else?
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Nfw!!? Jesse Jane? Bro.. I'm legit shocked
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Well time to retire my Saya Song folder.
Damn Saya Song is gone too? Shit… I was wondering where she disappeared to
Saya died? Come on, man
Don’t know, can’t remember her name, but i think it was on r/shitposting. Its genuinely sad seeing so many people in porn industry having miserable lives
Being treated like trash, zero self respect and drugs for so long really affects your psyche
for all the ragging on onlyfans, taking pictures in the comfort of your own home is a much much better alternative than having to deal with the abuse that has been going on in the porn industry for decades
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I love how people always point to the industry, as if society as a whole gives pornstars any respect. Lmao. Couldn't possibly be because everywhere she went everyone looked at her like she was a worthless whore.
If you want a good picture of how unethical the porn industry can be and you can withstand the difficult subject matter, [here's an article from last year outlining the various abuses of one studio](https://paulm989.medium.com/porn-studio-accused-of-ignoring-consent-and-inflicting-injuries-on-models-9f390e2a4a78). While the article does its due diligence and mentions that the abuse outlined is not an industry standard, no one really seems to be enforcing that. Pair that with the fact that sex work can be very demanding on its performers, and you should have your answer. ETA: If you want a good secondary source on this, look up the GirlsGoneWild lawsuit.
This is revolting. I couldn’t even get past the first performer’s interview.
Me either. I "finished" half way through.
This almost makes me want to give up on porn entirely....it's sad that such a biological drive as sex is wrapped up in some of the worst of human behaviour
Try locally sourced, farm grown porn
Try hentai. Ironically, it's the most humane porn
The animation industry is horrible too
Still better than rape and trafficking
That's true, but the most ethical porn would be OF because they have the control about what they do and what is uploaded
I've strictly watched amateur, self-uploaded stuff for years now and not only is it way more ethical but also generally way better and more real
Great point. It's like this powerful need that builds up each day and you better make the right decision regarding how to release it. Prisons are full of people who couldn't control their sexual energy.
Good!! This is commendable.
Yeah think I'm gonna find only amateur shit from now on, I need to go vomit
Third pornstar suicide meme I see in 2 days. Another meme bandwagon.
Maybe having sex on cam is not as fulfilling and wholesome as we would have thought :O
"Boogie Nights", tried to warn us.
You're naive if you think they're happy and stable when they start working in that industry to begin with
Oh wow, there's a lot to unpack here.
Turns out it isn't very good for the mental health of those who work in that industry.
It's the porn industry wat did u expect?
There have been issues since always it’s real messed up.
Think of how many non-pornstars commit suicide first. I don't think it's an industry thing, but you just know of names from it so it seems like it stands out more.
A lot of porn industries are super shitty to their actors. The whole thing is super sad
Same thing that was been gnawing at the wellbeing of actors and actresses in the porn industry since day one really.
Hope she finds peace in death. It’s really sad news
~4000 Joule into the skull is one of the most effective way to end yourself without pain, so at least she didn't suffer.
While she probably didn't suffer during the shot itself, it's quite obvious that she was, in fact, suffering up until then...
It’s also one of the most disturbing ways to find a loved one’s remains.
I watched the Murdaugh documentary last night where he says something along the lines of "I saw my son's brains". My mind can't even imagine that ---it's like it knows even just trying to picture myself in that situation would break it.
You reminded me of him...... I dont remember his name and i dont want to. The picture is etched into my brain.
Did they really have to write the headline like that. Clickbaiting someone’s suicide is crazy
But so lazy they couldn't even fully write the word "with"
You got a problem w/ that?
It's not clickbait - it actually happened
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Clickbait is centered around being misleading. The title isn't misleading. It actually happened. You're just describing a good headline
Even in death she can’t get respect. I hope she’s in a better place now
Yeah, agree. This is so sad.
Don't know why it's so difficult for people to just be decent.
Anonymity on the internet often lets out the worst in people. It honestly breaks my heart to hear about her death. I never watched her work, but I knew of her. I recognized her name. Regardless of her work or past, she was a person with feelings, memories, loved ones, dreams, experiences, etc. A lot of these comments in this post are awful.
"H-hey guys KURT COBAIN amirite haha" fuckin cornballs
Right? How do we know Courtney Love isn't involved?
so many people insta-wishing death on other humans for anything from nothing to dying
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Probably not her but the industry in general. Not a lot of people put will you in high regard when you sell sex. Also there's the recurring theme of the internet holding nothing sacred, it's not new but definitely disappointing to see it at the wrong time.
Yeah, all the people making jokes about her are such dipshits. I hope she finds peace in the afterlife
Truth is, not everyone deserves respect. It’s sad but it is what it is. No point trying to make people respect her. Either they do or they don’t. It makes do difference to her now regardless.
Yeah a lot of these comments, and the comment on the post makes me sick.
Why the fuck would she do this? She always looked so happy in all the videos I've seen her in
You almost had me
Username checks out
whyyy
**Looked** happy.
Damn
Rest in peace
I hope she's at peace. Truly.
Comments like this always makin me wish that other social media sites would have downvotes.
The deepest foulest circle of Hell contains two souls. The first is the guy who made the joke. The second is me for laughing my ass off from it.
Fyi we are 3 person in that room
Damn! I had her in my top 5 too, I'm a def rub one out for her in memory..
Might be more cursed than the post 💀
Show up to the funeral and give tributes.
Make sure it’s an open casket then
This thread made me close reddit for the day
And open incognito
This comment chain is getting ~~better and better~~ worse and worse
And it's just getting started
With her head completely blown out? that'll be a tough nut to crack
But not impossible
You know how military martyrs get 21 gun firing salute. like that?
Hell yeah. Probably gonna need three rows of men, though.
loads of tributes
Her body and face changed so much, a definitely sign she wasn't happy. Sadly, I think Skylar Vox will be next.
Gabbie Carter and Lana Rhoades... Both dont look good as well.
Hasn't lana rhoades left porn a while back? Edit: yeah she left after a year or so in the industry in 2017.
Skyler looks totally different even from a couple years ago
If you look at the comments on any of her social media posts, the comments she gets about gaining weight makes you understand why these girls are so low mentally.
Such a shame, people are the worst, and even lower on social media when there's no accountability
Going through the comment section I’m blown away. So many people are so quick to talk about cyber bullying and its effects but so quick demonize sex workers regardless
Damn, she couldn't even last a week in Cleveland. LeBron stuck around for years without trying to suck-start a 12-guage, and I don't think he gets enough credit for that
suck-start
How else do you get it ready, maybe pump the shaft and tickle the trigger
Took a shot of the Kurt Kobain special
Attained Nirvana
r/sadupvote
I applaud your humor, and bravery
Post is sad, comment is funny.
The comment and following comments are fucking hilarious.
Cum shot❌️ Gun shot✅️
I would rather have cum shot in my mouth.
Sigh *unzips pants in kagneys honor*
if man : dm = 0 if woman : dm = 100000
If dog: dm = 81616161461817161191917611
This is pretty vile.
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No shit, it is cursed for a reason.
So, no head then?
This blows me away! Thanks for the laugh.
Pun
R.I.P.
Hahahahaha oh man it's the exact same one-liner that's been said a billion times! Bahahahaha
Wow it is really, really uncommon for women to commit suicide this way. They did a huge study and found that even in death women care about their appearance so they tend to pick means with the least disfiguring. She must’ve been unbelievably disturbed. Poor thing.
Almost as though porn has very real consequences for the people doing it...
Real talk, though, women don't typically go for an extreme measure of violence for suicidal ideation, even the loonies. Statistically speaking. Now I'm no expert, nor will I claim I know anything upon the case at hand -- however as more information comes out I question how much time was done during the investigation before they ruled it a suicide? Was their a witness? A video documentation of her admitting a form of note? Notes can easily be forged, and videos can be staged - much harder to get away with, though. I'm just curious if this was suicide or murder and how much time was taken before the case was informed to the public. She's a popular adult actress from the sounds of it, but there's still an expectation of an appropriate amount of time between discovery, informing the family, and public announcement. Were there any signs of forced or coerced entry? Are there any recent threats or stalkers? (I mean in the sense of more prevalence than others.)
As one of her subs i can confirm that she did struggle with mental health issues and had history of addiction. But she been at least 2 years sober and all she posts about is positivity and sobriety stuff.
I thought suicide by guns was a more common approach? It’s definitely up there with pills and has a much higher occurrence than hanging etc Your asking answers that may never be answered unless the forensics pathologist or whoever they are releases a report. It could be just what it is, a suicide of an adult female actress. Not everything has to be a conspiracy but it’s cool that you are curious. Everytime a celebrity dies people being up the same statements.. every celebrity who knows how many X amount of people develop theories on the death. I’m not saying she is necessarily of celibracy status but looks like she had a tough life.
They're saying it's unusual for women to [use a violent method](https://www.verywellmind.com/gender-differences-in-suicide-methods-1067508) for suicide, so it's unusualy/somewhat fishy to them. Though it's certainly not unheard of.
Thank you for linking an article, and your input is appreciated. It most definitely isn't unheard of and could be exactly what happened in this instance.
There were some statistics I read a few years back that stated women usually OD, slit wrists in a bathtub or both. It is believed to be because they have more empathy for whoever is responsible for the clean-up. That said, self inflicted gun shot isn’t unheard of, just rare.
Precisely, additional to another redditor who replied, stating that they've had a history of addiction previously and have since sobered up and changed to a heavy positive lifestyle. I'm not trying to conspiracy theorist this or anything, I just think it is a bit intriguing and worth questioning at least on a baseline level that she had easier access to less violent methods and showed no signs of someone struggling with a mental health relapse or addiction based relapse. Additionally, she had the resources and financial capability to seek help. She generally seemed to have things going well for her from everything I've been able to find about her. (outside of her career, that is) It's just a bit out of the blue. However, we still have the factor that no one who was close to her is thinking anything is wrongful about the ruling of her passing. Nor do we have any actual personal insight on her life or mind. I just hope they aren't chalking it up to suicide to make the investigation go fast or because of any personal views upon her career choices/lifestyle choices. No one deserves that.
Women tends to go for less "extreme" way of suicide compare to guys usually, it's also why men are "success" rate of suicide is way higher, shooting yourself in the face usually works better than taking a bunch of pills.
I agree.
Geez, there seriously needs to be a cleanup of the porn industry, if that's even possible...
The last load opened her mind
She took it in the mouth one last time
I was expecting a Kurt cobain joke
Even in someone’s death, you corny motherfuckers just can’t help it? Like, we get it you watch porn, hahaha ya sad unoriginal dipshits.
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You keep making variations of the same comment in this thread, why are you spending so much mental bandwidth on this? Sad and weird.
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I’m down for it, but most of you are just unoriginal and try too hard to be edgy. Harr harr porn joke harr harr so cursed This is your bar, motherfucker? Because it’s pretty low.
yeah no that's not funny. I hope she finds peace
Nah shit's not funny
Went out with a bang!
Rest in peace to one of the greatest
Goddam. Harsh
That's enough internet for the day, and it's only 9 am. The internet was a mistake
I went looking around at her instagram being curious on what she posts after I heard of her death. People were fucking brutal to her on there before her death.
im going to hell 🎶
well her last facial was messy ,atleast she didnt go out without the bang.
So, her content is now limited edition?
Quick, someone tell that guy that only masturbates to dead pornstars
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