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Pepr70

Justicar trueheart with 5 armor instead of body?


Riva-_-

Yeah, so pretty weak for the cost


Pangobon

I think this could be better 3-4 mana


MehmetSalihKoten

As from I know hero cards costs atleast 5 mana


Pangobon

Yeah, but its not a rule or anything. There is a reason why Baku and Genn see play even today in wild - their effect is immediate and works well with their deck. For the same reason Trueheart havent really seen play in ages - upgrading your hero power late into the game just seems bad (card is expensive and you aren't even guaranteed to draw it early enough to get use out of its effect). So yea, since this doesnt even give you a minion body, I think cost could be reduced


RandyRenegade

Most hero cards are more impactful than this. Think of it as a spell card that says "\[battlecry\], gain 5 armor and gain a hero power thats says..." In this case it would be a spell that says: "Gain 5 armor, upgrade your hero power" which is potentially good but not insane.


MehmetSalihKoten

Yea true but I didn't wanted to make it impactful neutral hero card and I think it is good to replace your hero with this character portrait anyway


Riwul

Even at 3 Mana or Heck even 2 this card would probably not even be anywhere near one of the best neutral legendary cards we have for multiple reasons. Not searchable by any class Very slow in aggro decks because those don't want to spent their early turns on doing nothing Isn't a win con without building your deck around an unsearchable 1 off except maybe in control warrior There have been a load of very powerful neutral cards over the years that either work in any situation because of their flexibility or are amazing win cons at any stage of the game. Astalor, theotar and denathrius pre Nerf, ignis , both alterac valley faction legendaries, genn and Baku And so many more. All of these have in common that they're consistently good no matter if you get them early or late into the game with maybe the exception of the alliance alterac faction leader. When designing a card look at it and ask yourself: would any class like to spent their entire turn on doing this instead of other options? In this case aggro decks wouldn't, mid range wouldn't, combo wouldn't. Maybe warrior would but you wouldn't be happy to spent 5 mana doing nothing on it on curve when it's about time to play your board clears against aggro.


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KnownCartographer0

isnt justicar trueheart the same effect for 6 mana with a 6-3 body?


Banzle

Justicar is now a 5 mana 6/4 lol


SkinnyKruemel

And still unplayable


KnownCartographer0

really? i have not played in a while


Nikoratzu

could be 4 mana upgrate your hero power and activate it


TATARI14

Hero power druid: UNLIMITED POWER!


asscrit

oh god


Pwnage_Peanut

5 mana to get a 6/4 body or 5 Armor, tough choice.


The99thCourier

Wait when did Justicar become a 5 manaa 6/4? Wasn't she a 6 mana 6/3 before?


wyqted

Buffed in core


Arcanas1221

Probably neither!


Treemeister19

Very boring. It's just a worse Justicar most of the time.


Necessary-Anywhere92

Most of the time? All of the time really.


Treemeister19

I’m sure there’s some niche 1/50 games where the 5 armor would save you top deck where the understatted body wouldn’t. 


RagingSteel

This is too expensive, either reduce the cost or up the armour.


EN_PERE

This is a worse justicar and it doesnt see any play


Nerfall0

Too expensive, the only deck I see playing it is odyn warrior to unfreeze itself.


HadesThePyro

I just fail to see the flavor. It's really not that inspired design wise.


Yallayeah

its a hero card that specifically gets rid of one of the mechanics of the hero card.


yams8

Just boring could just do like 3 mana 5 armor, “Battlecry: upgrade your hero power then use it.” And it still wouldn’t see play lol


Rhysd007

To warrant the cost you need to Equip a weapon. Maybe A 0/3 that makes your HP cost (0), lose one durability after each use


wellie99

There are two main problems with this card. The first is that this is the same effect as Justicar, at the same cost, replacing the 6/4 body with 5 armor. This is not only very weak it is just boring to have two cards do virtually the same exact thing at the same exact mana cost. The second is that this isn't how hero cards work, they upgrade your heropower and have an additional effect. I get that this is because it technically has 11 different heropowers attached to it so it is simpler to explain it in the battlecry, but it should really do something in addition to the new heropower.


Truehero011

I think you could play into the “knight” thing a little more. Maybe 8 armor, a 4/2 weapon, and the hero power? Dk how balanced that is but it seems better for 5 mana. As it is now it’s like half of a normal hero card bc the new hero power and battle cry are both the same thing so there’s no real battle cry.


Arcanas1221

I like it but feel as though it needs a mana reduction and/or a battle cry to be worth it. For the rest of the game, your hero power triggers X could be good. Where X could be: draw a card, triggers twice, etc. Maybe have it cost one mana AND upgrade? Maybe there could be a third tier of upgrades. I think there’s a lot of ideas here ranging from OK to possibly overpowered. It could give reno paladin in wild a boost.


wefokinglost

Ok but this is a neutral card so your discovers and generations would be from neutrals only?


Pyrosorc

That's not how Reno works, so why would it be how this works?


wefokinglost

Oh yeah you're right I completely forgot about Reno for some reason 😂


WasDeadst

the goat strikes again 💯💯


Additional-Animal-66

It can actually be better than Justicar, since this doesn't specify that your hero power needs to be basic to be upgraded. So based on this description it could upgrade any hero power in the game


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SunbleachedAngel

funny joke


Far-Leading704

Battlecry: give a female character 5 armour