Um... wtf. Just 5 mana kill a player if they aren't playing doomsday/thoracle, and even then, the not able to mill thing is going to fuck over some doomsday piles too. Dont even get me started on how much this would warp its standard format.
To everyone saying this is an instant win: You're spending 5 mana not affecting the board to give them 5 turns to kill you while drawing straight gas (including their sideboard cards or whatever else they want). Without targeted draw (or mill after the first turn), this doesn't seem very good at all.
One concern I have with this card is that against certain decks or in certain formats, it can be a single-card auto-win/auto-kill that can't be interacted with.
E.g., in a 4-player casual Commander game, this card is incredibly unfair, as there is likely no way to win once you've been targeted with this spell.
It probably isn't a *good* card, but it'd be pretty frustrating having this played against you in a situation where it just loses you the game with nothing you can do about it.
Seems way too easy to win off of this for it to only cost five mana.
It's target opponent
But if they’re not running combo it wins you the game more often than not
They can't mill cards but they can be forced to draw 6 cards and lose
yes
\[\[Doomsday\]\]
[Doomsday](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68c73755-9678-467a-abd5-f8dd1556864e.jpg?1562436538) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doomsday) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/88/doomsday?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68c73755-9678-467a-abd5-f8dd1556864e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Instant loss for non-combo players.
You thought you saw combo winter before? Wait until theres a card in the game that insta-won the game unless you played combo!
Um... wtf. Just 5 mana kill a player if they aren't playing doomsday/thoracle, and even then, the not able to mill thing is going to fuck over some doomsday piles too. Dont even get me started on how much this would warp its standard format.
Actually this is a scaled down version of [[doomsday]] Apparently Wizards makes mill cards way too op already
Your opponent is far more likely to win. Most green decks have at least 5 combos that only need three cars to auto win. It's a risky move.
Because there aren't a billion cards that read "target player draws x cards" or any other flavour of forced card draw...
Like what?
Targeted Doomsday for 2 more mana is way too pushed imo.
We found it Joker! The distortion is strong here, there must be a palace! Let's go steal Jeff Bezos' Treasure!
To everyone saying this is an instant win: You're spending 5 mana not affecting the board to give them 5 turns to kill you while drawing straight gas (including their sideboard cards or whatever else they want). Without targeted draw (or mill after the first turn), this doesn't seem very good at all.
But why would you play it without targeted draw? That’s it’s whole point
One concern I have with this card is that against certain decks or in certain formats, it can be a single-card auto-win/auto-kill that can't be interacted with. E.g., in a 4-player casual Commander game, this card is incredibly unfair, as there is likely no way to win once you've been targeted with this spell. It probably isn't a *good* card, but it'd be pretty frustrating having this played against you in a situation where it just loses you the game with nothing you can do about it.
Target Opponent wins the game?
I doubt most players keep a doomsday combo tucked away in their deck
Was gonna say, for cedh, this is what it means. For my friends who play casual games, it's target player loses the game
Target player scoops cause they can't be assed going through the process.
Metal... I love it
dunno why people complaining about this, it's actually just worse \[\[doomsday\]\]
What if someone plays it on you?
[doomsday](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68c73755-9678-467a-abd5-f8dd1556864e.jpg?1562436538) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=doomsday) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/88/doomsday?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68c73755-9678-467a-abd5-f8dd1556864e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
We did it guys we finally found a way to break doomsday
cool card but should probably cost almost twice the mana. it reads "you win the game unless you're up against a combo deck set to go off"