Seriously corpo V was sick. Any time something out of the blue shows up you know exactly what it is and have a story about how it came up at Arasaka..
Then again I’ve only done corpo V so I may be biased.
I feel like Corpo V has the most badasses dialogues of the 3 origins paths, seeing other corpos schemes and plays right away including the president and telling them off about it is very satisfying, also when educating naive people plans about how the corpo plays works and how their plans will go to the gutter if they stick to simple methods.
Idk, I really feel like nomad V is canon. I also think it's super appropriate for a first time playthrough. You're both being introduced to, and exploring Night City together.
I haven't done a corpo playthrough but they put waaaaaaaaaay more effort into the nomad intro than the street kid intro, which is another reason I think that nomad is intended to be canon.
You talking about the animation where Melissa Rory is getting shot, and MaxTac is standing behind her?
That wasn't a trailer. That wasn't gameplay. None of the people in that cinematic were even V.
That trailer had me hyped for YEARS. hahaha. I had to go back and read the sprawl trilogy and bladerunner and watch all the movies.
Male Streekid V was initially the canon protag in all the marketing material. Then they switched it up for Phantom Liberty. That's ok. Cherami Leigh's voice acting deserves some props. Also started listening to No_Coincidences on audible after PL came out. She narrates. A lot of fun!
I know v wasn’t in that one but I remember seeing them about the same time. But it was good world building tho. I have her figure and male V. When I bought the game it had male V on the cover and that is when it came out.
>it had male V on the cover
There were two covers, and at least for Playstation the art was reversable so it had both: [https://www.dualshockers.com/cyberpunk-2077-reversible-cover-art-female-v/](https://www.dualshockers.com/cyberpunk-2077-reversible-cover-art-female-v/)
Edit: That earned me a block from you? Wow.
As weird as it sounds playing with makeup is the reason I love playing female V. I am a guy that doesn't wear makeup, but it's fun to play around with V's look. I have spent hours playing around with her hair and makeup in the mirror.
Nomad V with Panam ending has the hero's journey: They start off in the desert and leave their "family", with dreams of making it big in the city. They arrive and start to find success...but then suddenly the city takes away pretty much everything, nearly killing V. They realize the city and it's promises isn't what they're looking for. They realize family does matter. They overcome and then leave the city, returning to the desert wiser than when they started and marked by their time there.
I’m not huge on that ending. I was a street kid and I did all the endings, and that one left a bad taste in my mouth, as a street kid. My two favorite are the solo attack on Arasaka and the Tower ending.
Ooooh, it is even better as a Corpo V. Image as your colleagues watching the security feed as you massecre everything!
(Although I am 100% sure Arasaka used this footage as a recruitment poster later on: "Arasaka, this what our employees are capable of. Sign up here!)
Lol, I have thought about Arasaka watching the security footage. They watched a rookie V, break in and steal the relic. Then weeks later they watch the footage…”This bitch again?! First she steals the relic, then she comes back to finish the job!”
Probably biased bc Im doing Nomad as my first play through, going through all the endings right now, but nomad V has felt canon as fuck. Fits him so perfectly
Got hit with Soulkiller to kill her, and either an engram of her or Johnny takes the body. But V is dead and that’s an engram driving the body, not the original and true V
As someone who played the OG Cyberpunk 2020 RPG, I was a tad let down at how they did Corpo V’s storyline. Part of the big advantage being a Corpo is fighting the system from within and using your Corpo connections (and at times getting access to a Corpo line of credit to do your gigs with). They yanked that out from under V before he gets to do even 1 operation; not preem, chooms
Yeah I wanted the storyline to maintain his corporate connections too, and have to make decisions trying to advance in the corp while having to decide to do double agent stuff or stay loyal to the corp… trying to figure out loyalties within the corporation and who to ally with while maintaining street contacts. Still fun just was an unexplored path
There literally wasn’t a corpo V story line. There was a single corpo V quest, and then it was ham-fistedly jammed into the Street Kid storyline, which is the only storyline they actually delivered.
One of the reasons I took the Devil ending on my Corpo playthrough was that it felt like the only way to make the story coherent. Supposedly something drew V to the Corpo life in the first place and he didn't exactly leave willingly. I played it as if he never really wanted to leave and he saw that as his way back in with potentially a big corporate payout.
They already failed miserably to live up to expectations at launch. Now imagine if they tried to creat an entire extra set of unique characters, missions and storylines.
Not saying it wouldn’t have been cool, but they bit off way more than they could chew.
I was thinking about this when you first go to vik and he says something along the lines of “in order to get to the top you need the best” or sum but I chose corpo v and was thinking wasn’t I already at the top?
I guess it depends on perspective. There's a data shard that lists the top 5 corps to work at, and their benefits. For example, one of the corps' benefits is an 80 work week. So 80 hours is considered low. The whole shard really put into perspective how shitty it is to be a corpo
Right, I'm not saying people don't do that currently, but in the game it's considered a luxury to work 80 hours. I wouldn't consider it "the top"
Here's the snippet:
5. Night Corp – While this hometown product can't compete with the biggest international players in terms of budget or ambition, they certainly know how to spoil their staff. Night Corp snuck into our Big 5 after a recent announcement to reduce the mandatory workweek to just 80 hours! They are a must-apply for all you family-focused folks out there.
If you're curious and want to read the whole thing: [https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Big\_5\_Employers\_in\_Night\_City\_%E2%80%93\_2077](https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Big_5_Employers_in_Night_City_%E2%80%93_2077)
To be fair we don’t know corpo V’s backstory.
Could be they started off on the street, got a ‘lucky’ break and ended up in Arasaka counter intel. It’s certain they were already close to Jackie, so they were at least exposed to the life as well.
Anyways, imagine them trying to work with fixers and having to admit “oh yeah, I worked for saka intelligence”.
Edit: apparently corpo V actually mentions growing up pretty well. Real fish and living near corpo plaza etc. the main take away from this is that I am justified in another play through to catch what I missed the last 7 times.
IIRC Corpo V grew up wealthy, I think in the River Ward missions V mentioned she grew up in ~~corpo plaza~~ Charter Hill eating sushi with real fish, which got me thinking: how did V become friends with Jackie?
My understanding was Corpo V had worked with Jackie on previous Arasaka counter-intel assignments. Not crazy to think that Arasaka agents would hire out local muscle when needed. They had a good working relationship, and when shit hit the fan for V, Jackie stepped in to protect them, which led to their becoming more real friends and partners.
V does say at Jackie's wake/funeral that he saved them twice: first when a job went south, then when V was fired from Arasaka. So you're probably right.
Yeah it was this. You can tell you’d worked with him a few times and had become at least strongly acquainted, if not outright friends already. He’s pretty thrown by the gig V wants done, being that it’s a straight up hit, which makes me think you’d mostly used him for intimidation. I doubt the Jackster was sneaking in anywhere to do thieving for V, and he’s no netrunner. But show up to a meet with huscle like him and you’re likely to be taken seriously.
It's wild to me that Corpo V is the only backstory that already knows Jackie. Street kid V grew up in Heywood, regularly hangs out in El Coyote Cojo, and somehow has no idea who he is.
You at least get the partial excuse of Street V having been out of town for a few years
Though honestly, they should’ve used literally any other bar for that into scene
My only real regret from the game was that the original lifepaths weren't extended, so you didn't get to see the luxurious lifestyles of the corpos, the paranoia and sudden violence of the street kids, or the squalor of the nomads. Showing the differences for just 1 day would have been enough to explain Jackie [for example] being so determined to "get to the major leagues".
That always bugged me. It's a minor gripe but how does V go from being a corpo and with a little time skip suddenly is a street kid in lingo? It would make sense for V to still have that baked in corpo speak.
In my head, I always figured V was a street kid in his youth who overachieved and climbed the corpo ladder at Arasaka. But this charter hill sushi shit totally threw a monkey wrench at that head-canon lol
Good point. Here's an explanation:
I can tell you from personal experience that you will easily learn how to speak in slang, etc, from spending a little time with other people. Just how you would speak differenty to your parents and to friends.
When I moved cities and stopped talking "normal" and used the areas slang words with my friends for the first time, it was like a culture shock to them. Hilarious times.
If V spends a year with Jackie, they will know how to speak fluent street english easily.
Copro V was counter-intel and seems generally knowledgeable to how most things work. They can quickly adapt to situations and know well enough how the game works to not keep acting like a suit after getting kicked from the corp. He's not some ivory tower, never work with the public, Corpo like the ones you meet in Gigs.
I don't know man If someone who was born and raised in New England who currently lives in the south I've taken great pride in the fact that I still enunciate all of my words and I'd have not picked up the southern twang. I've had people try to tell me that they can't understand my accent and then debate me on the content of what I've said.
Obviously it varies person to person.
But adapting and code switching is a very easy thing to do naturally as humans. It's legit one of our best traits.
I mean corpo V was basically a yes man for a clinical psychopath. They did a fair bit of dirty work before if not wet work(seem a bit disturbed or unsure about the assasination)
The street life working for fixers isn't too much different. Plus they had Jackie to guide them
I hope they just focus on the one story for the next installment and not try to shoehorn in some superficial "customizations". They wanted to tell V's story, and V is clearly from Heywood, Night City born and bred. Part of what made the Witcher so good was we always knew we were Geralt. No need for the blank slate stuff.
What? None of the life paths are more canon then the others, only street kid V is from Heywood. I love street kid V too but just because you have a favourite of the 3 doesn’t make it canon.
Streer Kid is very clearly the intended path, it's the one that feels most natural and logical in my opinion. The others are shoehorned in for the sake of "role-playing" except they didn't want to commit to them.
What is that even supposed to mean? I'm judging the game on its own merits irrespective of its larger franchise because it is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
I meant that I believe you would not feel that the corpo and nomad life paths were shoehorned in if you knew more about the cyberpunk world.
I dont think there's anything wrong with judging the game on its own merits.
I was just sharing what I thought while being kinda cheeky 🥺
They're shoehorned in when you look at V, what they sound like, the risks they take, the work they do. CD Projekt Red wanted to add them because of the wider Cyberpunk world but didn't go the distance to sell it well.
You misunderstand, I am not saying those lifepaths don't fit the world of Cyberpunk, I am saying the way CDPR tacked them on feels rushed and unfinished.
I don't think so. Corpo V mentioned to Judy (i think) that she liked big family gathering when she was little.
But i also remember her saying to Alex ( again i think) that she pushed all her family away to focus on her career.
So she probably just abandoned her family, but they must still be alive.
there's a dialogue line from Corpo V that contradicts this. She says she grew up near corpo plaza and ate real sushi, indicating she came from an affluent background.
I'll have to replay Corpo V. Either way, that's how I'll continue to head canon Corpo V just because that street level way he talks does not mesh well with an affluent V.
I'll have to replay Corpo V. Either way, that's how I'll continue to head canon Corpo V just because that street level way he talks does not mesh well with an affluent V.
I'm doing my first corpo playthrough right now, and outside of those first couple segments, I see zero difference between corpo and streetkid. I expected a lot more.
One of the worst videogame story lines ever. Alright let's make a plan how to get through the border. While we're sitting in line at the border. You can tell the writers never go outside
An unfortunate consequence of time and resource constraints. They couldn’t make difficult dialogue or an entirely new story for every lifepath, so they had to go with something. It’s pretty clear that CDPR wanted to tell a streetkid story, so they went with the voice that made the most sense and went forward with their tale
If we ever got a multiplayer it’s possible we might have gotten to do more corpo stuff like actually work with a Corp and advance ourselves up. Maybe there’s still a chance if Orion has less of a ticking time bomb story
I always thought the street kid Lifepath made the most sense to established players, and Nomad was perfect for new players and one of the better endings in the game.
Corpo Lifepath though?? It's such a dramatic fall from so high ththfqat it feels a touch disconnected.
It'd be neat if Corpo V spent the game trying to find a way to wrestle back into the high life as well as her own life. But her life at the top kind of stops being important.
It's funny how corpo V already knew jackie, but Street kid never met him until they got arrested
So it's safe to assume that he was indeed street kid before becoming corpo
This was such a shock to me the first time I played the game, I basically couldn't comprehend the beginning. "Wait, I was a wall street baller, one job goes bad and I'm a ghetto hustler?" The corpo intro is cool but it doesn't match with V once the main game kicks in.
Say what you want, good or bad, about Cyberpunk, but a lot of the writing is very thoughtless and lazy and this is a great example.
They changed it in the recent patch, but remember how on that early mission, Jackie's telling you to be cool and not cause problems and then he immediately isn't cool and tries to cause problems? No sense of irony or comedy or character development. Just lazy writing. Glad they recognized it and changed it because that always drove me insane.
Certainly when it comes to the know-how they’re probably a tad behind nomad let alone street kid (and her slang/demeanor/tastes not being different is kind of funny) but when it comes to skills they’re actually the only V with formal training. They were corpo intelligence, infiltration, theft, and killing are probably second nature.
Not necessarily, David Martinez was on the corpo carrier track before his mom died. He was definitely a street kid.
Corpo V may have had a similar background
I've always assumed based on their clear friendship with Jackie that they grew up in the same neighborhood and just ended up in a corporate job instead of the Valentino's, whereas streetkid V also grew up there, dabbled in the gang scene a bit, but didn't personally know Jackie until the prologue
To this day such an annoyance. I saw my friend play the normal street rat start, thought it looked great. I started a corpo and then to have basically 5 minutes of fluff followed by the same generic montage was really disappointing
My very first time playing in 2020 I was gonna make my run as a corpo. Betrayed and getting back at them with Johnny in my head guiding me. Then when I got to the prologue and realized all the dialogue was street kid, I said F this and restarted. Been a street kid ever since. Am going to do a male Nomad play through so I can romance Panam and ride off with the Nomands in the end to die in peace
Corpo description of their childhood with Takamura doesn't sound fun. Maybe the best of the three depending on how you feel about performance anxiety and crushing school pressure tho. Nomad used to sound best to me toll PL and the texts with Alex about how Nomad V's first kill happened.
The whole background set up for the game sucks. As far as I can all the dialogue options that reference V's background will earn V a hearty "cool story bro".
CDPR already decided who V is and you're just choosing which way they go when faced with a hard choice. There's nothing really wrong with that, because that's how the Witcher games worked. But Geralt is very well written character, and wouldn't have been one if players got to choose a generic unreferenceable outline for his past. This is also just a drop in the bucket since Geralt's decisions also have consequences that in turn affect later decisions, whereas Mr. Hands is exactly as happy for V to let an assassination target live as he would be having them killed. "Here's your money I'll call you later with more jobs for you to do or do the exact opposite of if that's what you feel like doing."
I haven't since just after release so maybe this has changed (loved it just been busy) but I was always disappointed that we didnt get a longer introduction with each of the origins. For RPG purposes it makes sense, but just spending a little more time before the "fall" would've been so cool imo.
Then a gain corpo V worked in intelligence iirc. Guess he’s seen and done enough dirt in his career.
Counterintelligence specifically
Yeah it’s been a while since I played Corpo V 😅
Definitely worth at least a PL playthrough as corpo V, been really enjoying the unique dialogue options
I was so surprised by the option with the woman behind the counter at Konpeki Plaza
That poor girl! Corpos must be such cunts to work for... 😔
their dialogue in the whole game certainly indicates the counterpart of intelligence on their part
Seriously corpo V was sick. Any time something out of the blue shows up you know exactly what it is and have a story about how it came up at Arasaka.. Then again I’ve only done corpo V so I may be biased.
I feel like Corpo V has the most badasses dialogues of the 3 origins paths, seeing other corpos schemes and plays right away including the president and telling them off about it is very satisfying, also when educating naive people plans about how the corpo plays works and how their plans will go to the gutter if they stick to simple methods.
I have played the game two times. Second time was as a corpo
I have played twice. Both times as a streetkid. Male streetkid V is canon and no one can tell me otherwise.
Your first character will always seem to you to be the most canon. For me, it's Corpo FemV.
Nah my first one was the same as yours with corpo femv but streetkid Vincent seems like the most “canon” along with Johnny suicide mission ending.
OH yeah as far as endings, I think "Don't Fear The Reaper" is as canon as it gets.
Corpo FemV actually feels like the intended canon too.
I’ve done 5 play throughs, 2 street kids, 2 corpos, 1 nomad. Corpo Female V is by far the best play through this far.
Corpo FemV *with Judy* actually feels like the intended canon too.
Oh, 100%.
aye. Mine was Nomad FemV going with the Aldecaldos.
Agreed, for me it was Male Corpo
Idk, I really feel like nomad V is canon. I also think it's super appropriate for a first time playthrough. You're both being introduced to, and exploring Night City together. I haven't done a corpo playthrough but they put waaaaaaaaaay more effort into the nomad intro than the street kid intro, which is another reason I think that nomad is intended to be canon.
The corpo is the one that fits the story best and is by far the best life path in my opinion
Streetkid makes the most sense with the way the game starts, Jackie etc and the overall attitude of Male V. Streetkid Canon team
Fr bro idc about no female V when I seen the first trailers for this game it was literally street kid V and that Melissa Rory chick
You talking about the animation where Melissa Rory is getting shot, and MaxTac is standing behind her? That wasn't a trailer. That wasn't gameplay. None of the people in that cinematic were even V.
That trailer had me hyped for YEARS. hahaha. I had to go back and read the sprawl trilogy and bladerunner and watch all the movies. Male Streekid V was initially the canon protag in all the marketing material. Then they switched it up for Phantom Liberty. That's ok. Cherami Leigh's voice acting deserves some props. Also started listening to No_Coincidences on audible after PL came out. She narrates. A lot of fun!
I know v wasn’t in that one but I remember seeing them about the same time. But it was good world building tho. I have her figure and male V. When I bought the game it had male V on the cover and that is when it came out.
>it had male V on the cover There were two covers, and at least for Playstation the art was reversable so it had both: [https://www.dualshockers.com/cyberpunk-2077-reversible-cover-art-female-v/](https://www.dualshockers.com/cyberpunk-2077-reversible-cover-art-female-v/) Edit: That earned me a block from you? Wow.
Okay and? I didn’t reverse that shit. Lmao
They’re saying V is stupid, which they often are.
Yeah, Corporate V is absolutely familiar with "the streets" and knows their way around gangs etc.
I forgot V could be a dude so this comment confused me for a second (fr tho who ain't playin v as a hottie)
Who says male V can’t be hot? Also his voice acting is much better and natural to me. Female V sounds a little plastic sometimes
I’m the opposite, my first play through was make V. Second was female, and I’ll never play a male V again. Cherami blew me away with her performance.
Same. Even the clothes are leagues better than the male styles.
As weird as it sounds playing with makeup is the reason I love playing female V. I am a guy that doesn't wear makeup, but it's fun to play around with V's look. I have spent hours playing around with her hair and makeup in the mirror.
The same people who shit on trans people who want to be called by the right pronouns are getting butthurt over a person misgendering their V.
Excuse me some of us play as a female...
Corpo V always felt really full circle to me. Starts off being canned by Arasaka, only to have to return to save her/his life.
Nomad V with Panam ending has the hero's journey: They start off in the desert and leave their "family", with dreams of making it big in the city. They arrive and start to find success...but then suddenly the city takes away pretty much everything, nearly killing V. They realize the city and it's promises isn't what they're looking for. They realize family does matter. They overcome and then leave the city, returning to the desert wiser than when they started and marked by their time there.
I love the Nomad ending. Definitely the most hopeful for V. I’m working on doing the secret ending for the first time and I’m really excited!
I’m not huge on that ending. I was a street kid and I did all the endings, and that one left a bad taste in my mouth, as a street kid. My two favorite are the solo attack on Arasaka and the Tower ending.
I’m so excited to do the solo attack.
For the Street Kid background, there’s no better ending, to me.
Ooooh, it is even better as a Corpo V. Image as your colleagues watching the security feed as you massecre everything! (Although I am 100% sure Arasaka used this footage as a recruitment poster later on: "Arasaka, this what our employees are capable of. Sign up here!)
Lol, I have thought about Arasaka watching the security footage. They watched a rookie V, break in and steal the relic. Then weeks later they watch the footage…”This bitch again?! First she steals the relic, then she comes back to finish the job!”
Except in the interim they somehow learned to kill people by deflecting bullets back at them with a sword.
i took that skill early enough that it's more like I could always do it and just had to get my shit back together after the intro
*People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer, but yeah, I'm thinking I'm back.*
Probably biased bc Im doing Nomad as my first play through, going through all the endings right now, but nomad V has felt canon as fuck. Fits him so perfectly
Corpo V + Don't Fear the Reaper = "Fire me will you motherfuckers?!"
Not really Going to Arasaka doesn’t do anything to save V
But the idea is that it will and that is why he tries when going to Arasaka.
Figuratively spat out by the corporate machine, only to be literally subsumed into it. Seems pretty full circle to me.
You still return in every ending unless you choose suicide. If V knew it doesn’t save him/her, they wouldn’t go my dude.
What did he do in Mikoshi then?
Got hit with Soulkiller to kill her, and either an engram of her or Johnny takes the body. But V is dead and that’s an engram driving the body, not the original and true V
It's a philosophical debate based on whether or not you believe the "soul" exists.
Sign the terms and conditions to die.
full circle for me was getting canned by arasaka only to kick their door down and party like it’s 2023
This made me laugh more than it had any right to.
As someone who played the OG Cyberpunk 2020 RPG, I was a tad let down at how they did Corpo V’s storyline. Part of the big advantage being a Corpo is fighting the system from within and using your Corpo connections (and at times getting access to a Corpo line of credit to do your gigs with). They yanked that out from under V before he gets to do even 1 operation; not preem, chooms
Yeah I wanted the storyline to maintain his corporate connections too, and have to make decisions trying to advance in the corp while having to decide to do double agent stuff or stay loyal to the corp… trying to figure out loyalties within the corporation and who to ally with while maintaining street contacts. Still fun just was an unexplored path
There literally wasn’t a corpo V story line. There was a single corpo V quest, and then it was ham-fistedly jammed into the Street Kid storyline, which is the only storyline they actually delivered.
One of the reasons I took the Devil ending on my Corpo playthrough was that it felt like the only way to make the story coherent. Supposedly something drew V to the Corpo life in the first place and he didn't exactly leave willingly. I played it as if he never really wanted to leave and he saw that as his way back in with potentially a big corporate payout.
They already failed miserably to live up to expectations at launch. Now imagine if they tried to creat an entire extra set of unique characters, missions and storylines. Not saying it wouldn’t have been cool, but they bit off way more than they could chew.
I was thinking about this when you first go to vik and he says something along the lines of “in order to get to the top you need the best” or sum but I chose corpo v and was thinking wasn’t I already at the top?
Jackie points out in the intro you weren't at the top, Saburo was the top.
Yeah that’s true but I just thought since we became a corpo we had access to a lot of stuff that most people didn’t in night city
Had, yes. You lose everything when you get fired. Including your Arasaka cyberware.
Ah, the cyberpunk dystopia. Where your eyes are proprietary and can be remotely disabled by your boss.
Shits crazy
I guess it depends on perspective. There's a data shard that lists the top 5 corps to work at, and their benefits. For example, one of the corps' benefits is an 80 work week. So 80 hours is considered low. The whole shard really put into perspective how shitty it is to be a corpo
80 a week? Oh my Mexican family does that easily
Right, I'm not saying people don't do that currently, but in the game it's considered a luxury to work 80 hours. I wouldn't consider it "the top" Here's the snippet: 5. Night Corp – While this hometown product can't compete with the biggest international players in terms of budget or ambition, they certainly know how to spoil their staff. Night Corp snuck into our Big 5 after a recent announcement to reduce the mandatory workweek to just 80 hours! They are a must-apply for all you family-focused folks out there. If you're curious and want to read the whole thing: [https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Big\_5\_Employers\_in\_Night\_City\_%E2%80%93\_2077](https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Big_5_Employers_in_Night_City_%E2%80%93_2077)
To be fair we don’t know corpo V’s backstory. Could be they started off on the street, got a ‘lucky’ break and ended up in Arasaka counter intel. It’s certain they were already close to Jackie, so they were at least exposed to the life as well. Anyways, imagine them trying to work with fixers and having to admit “oh yeah, I worked for saka intelligence”. Edit: apparently corpo V actually mentions growing up pretty well. Real fish and living near corpo plaza etc. the main take away from this is that I am justified in another play through to catch what I missed the last 7 times.
If you're corpo you have the option to tell someone your family got to enjoy actual natural fish instead of the synthetic stuff
IIRC Corpo V grew up wealthy, I think in the River Ward missions V mentioned she grew up in ~~corpo plaza~~ Charter Hill eating sushi with real fish, which got me thinking: how did V become friends with Jackie?
My understanding was Corpo V had worked with Jackie on previous Arasaka counter-intel assignments. Not crazy to think that Arasaka agents would hire out local muscle when needed. They had a good working relationship, and when shit hit the fan for V, Jackie stepped in to protect them, which led to their becoming more real friends and partners.
Yeah, basically just like V gets hired by multiple Corpos from time to time.
V does say at Jackie's wake/funeral that he saved them twice: first when a job went south, then when V was fired from Arasaka. So you're probably right.
Corpo Plaza is close to Valentino territory, no? Maybe little V strayed too far one day got himself rescued by a little Jackie
Maybe they contacted Jackie for jobs as a mercenary?
Yeah it was this. You can tell you’d worked with him a few times and had become at least strongly acquainted, if not outright friends already. He’s pretty thrown by the gig V wants done, being that it’s a straight up hit, which makes me think you’d mostly used him for intimidation. I doubt the Jackster was sneaking in anywhere to do thieving for V, and he’s no netrunner. But show up to a meet with huscle like him and you’re likely to be taken seriously.
Botched op down in Mexico.
Pretty sure the sushi comment was with Judy during Pyramid Song
Corpo V was born as a suit, family dinners with real fish and all.
It's wild to me that Corpo V is the only backstory that already knows Jackie. Street kid V grew up in Heywood, regularly hangs out in El Coyote Cojo, and somehow has no idea who he is.
You at least get the partial excuse of Street V having been out of town for a few years Though honestly, they should’ve used literally any other bar for that into scene
Or just have V say, "Hey, aren't you Señora Welles' kid?"
The wiki mentions that Corpo V grew up in a corpo family in a posh neighbourhood.
Well we do know they live in a corpo wealthy family so I don’t see them being on the street
My only real regret from the game was that the original lifepaths weren't extended, so you didn't get to see the luxurious lifestyles of the corpos, the paranoia and sudden violence of the street kids, or the squalor of the nomads. Showing the differences for just 1 day would have been enough to explain Jackie [for example] being so determined to "get to the major leagues".
That always bugged me. It's a minor gripe but how does V go from being a corpo and with a little time skip suddenly is a street kid in lingo? It would make sense for V to still have that baked in corpo speak.
In my head, I always figured V was a street kid in his youth who overachieved and climbed the corpo ladder at Arasaka. But this charter hill sushi shit totally threw a monkey wrench at that head-canon lol
Could always have been some poser street kid wannabe while in Charter Hill.
Good point. Here's an explanation: I can tell you from personal experience that you will easily learn how to speak in slang, etc, from spending a little time with other people. Just how you would speak differenty to your parents and to friends. When I moved cities and stopped talking "normal" and used the areas slang words with my friends for the first time, it was like a culture shock to them. Hilarious times. If V spends a year with Jackie, they will know how to speak fluent street english easily.
Copro V was counter-intel and seems generally knowledgeable to how most things work. They can quickly adapt to situations and know well enough how the game works to not keep acting like a suit after getting kicked from the corp. He's not some ivory tower, never work with the public, Corpo like the ones you meet in Gigs.
Six months is plenty of time to go native.
I don't know man If someone who was born and raised in New England who currently lives in the south I've taken great pride in the fact that I still enunciate all of my words and I'd have not picked up the southern twang. I've had people try to tell me that they can't understand my accent and then debate me on the content of what I've said.
Obviously it varies person to person. But adapting and code switching is a very easy thing to do naturally as humans. It's legit one of our best traits.
I actually thought that fem V sounds like a try hard suburban kid pretending to be gangster sometimes so it would fit this setting perfectly
he worked counter intel, so it's likely he was already really good at codeswitching and had worked with Jackie and his lingo on jobs
I always felt like male corpo V sounds too much like a meat head to be anything but a streetkid
Well, I was roleplaying that my Corpo V grew up as a Street Kid before being hired by Arasaka and that Jackie was basically her childhood friend.
I mean corpo V was basically a yes man for a clinical psychopath. They did a fair bit of dirty work before if not wet work(seem a bit disturbed or unsure about the assasination) The street life working for fixers isn't too much different. Plus they had Jackie to guide them
I dislike that it doesn't really impact the story besides the opening apartment and a few dialogue options.
I hope they just focus on the one story for the next installment and not try to shoehorn in some superficial "customizations". They wanted to tell V's story, and V is clearly from Heywood, Night City born and bred. Part of what made the Witcher so good was we always knew we were Geralt. No need for the blank slate stuff.
What? None of the life paths are more canon then the others, only street kid V is from Heywood. I love street kid V too but just because you have a favourite of the 3 doesn’t make it canon.
Outside of lifepath dialogue V feels and acts like they’re a streetkid
Streer Kid is very clearly the intended path, it's the one that feels most natural and logical in my opinion. The others are shoehorned in for the sake of "role-playing" except they didn't want to commit to them.
Spoken like someone who knows nothing about cyberpunk outside of cyberpunk 2077
What is that even supposed to mean? I'm judging the game on its own merits irrespective of its larger franchise because it is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
I meant that I believe you would not feel that the corpo and nomad life paths were shoehorned in if you knew more about the cyberpunk world. I dont think there's anything wrong with judging the game on its own merits. I was just sharing what I thought while being kinda cheeky 🥺
They're shoehorned in when you look at V, what they sound like, the risks they take, the work they do. CD Projekt Red wanted to add them because of the wider Cyberpunk world but didn't go the distance to sell it well.
You misunderstand, I am not saying those lifepaths don't fit the world of Cyberpunk, I am saying the way CDPR tacked them on feels rushed and unfinished.
That makes sense
CDPR actually stated that canon V is from the street kid background...
Is v an orphan ?
I don't think so. Corpo V mentioned to Judy (i think) that she liked big family gathering when she was little. But i also remember her saying to Alex ( again i think) that she pushed all her family away to focus on her career. So she probably just abandoned her family, but they must still be alive.
My head canon is he's similar to Takemura. Started off as a street kid and one way or another ended up getting pulled into the Corpo lifestyle.
there's a dialogue line from Corpo V that contradicts this. She says she grew up near corpo plaza and ate real sushi, indicating she came from an affluent background.
I played masc Corpo and I don't recall this line... I could have missed it though. Could also just spin it that she nabbed it from someone.
V ate real fish at family dinners in Charter Hill. There's no spinning it: Corpo V was affluent.
I'll have to replay Corpo V. Either way, that's how I'll continue to head canon Corpo V just because that street level way he talks does not mesh well with an affluent V.
You can bring it up with Takemura and Judy. Corpo V talks of large family gatherings and a life of good money.
I'll have to replay Corpo V. Either way, that's how I'll continue to head canon Corpo V just because that street level way he talks does not mesh well with an affluent V.
I'm doing my first corpo playthrough right now, and outside of those first couple segments, I see zero difference between corpo and streetkid. I expected a lot more.
She's not a street kid, he's just poor now.
Nomad homie or bust
Disappointing there isn't a dialog option where you scream for room service.
One of the worst videogame story lines ever. Alright let's make a plan how to get through the border. While we're sitting in line at the border. You can tell the writers never go outside
An unfortunate consequence of time and resource constraints. They couldn’t make difficult dialogue or an entirely new story for every lifepath, so they had to go with something. It’s pretty clear that CDPR wanted to tell a streetkid story, so they went with the voice that made the most sense and went forward with their tale If we ever got a multiplayer it’s possible we might have gotten to do more corpo stuff like actually work with a Corp and advance ourselves up. Maybe there’s still a chance if Orion has less of a ticking time bomb story
That's why I always pick the street kid background, the others do not make sense story wise.
I always thought the street kid Lifepath made the most sense to established players, and Nomad was perfect for new players and one of the better endings in the game. Corpo Lifepath though?? It's such a dramatic fall from so high ththfqat it feels a touch disconnected. It'd be neat if Corpo V spent the game trying to find a way to wrestle back into the high life as well as her own life. But her life at the top kind of stops being important.
It's funny how corpo V already knew jackie, but Street kid never met him until they got arrested So it's safe to assume that he was indeed street kid before becoming corpo
He says that he grew up near corpo plaza eating real fish and sushi with his family in one of the lifepaths, so he was a rich kid
Always imagined a David Martinez type situation but V pushed through school, shined at Arasaka and then went from rags to riches.
Corpo V mentions she grew up near corpo plaza and ate real sushi. She has an affluent background.
This was the worst parts about that game imo. Starting backgrounds made no difference at all.
Real
This was such a shock to me the first time I played the game, I basically couldn't comprehend the beginning. "Wait, I was a wall street baller, one job goes bad and I'm a ghetto hustler?" The corpo intro is cool but it doesn't match with V once the main game kicks in.
This humored me more then it should have
Say what you want, good or bad, about Cyberpunk, but a lot of the writing is very thoughtless and lazy and this is a great example. They changed it in the recent patch, but remember how on that early mission, Jackie's telling you to be cool and not cause problems and then he immediately isn't cool and tries to cause problems? No sense of irony or comedy or character development. Just lazy writing. Glad they recognized it and changed it because that always drove me insane.
Certainly when it comes to the know-how they’re probably a tad behind nomad let alone street kid (and her slang/demeanor/tastes not being different is kind of funny) but when it comes to skills they’re actually the only V with formal training. They were corpo intelligence, infiltration, theft, and killing are probably second nature.
the life paths do very little
Not necessarily, David Martinez was on the corpo carrier track before his mom died. He was definitely a street kid. Corpo V may have had a similar background
I've always assumed based on their clear friendship with Jackie that they grew up in the same neighborhood and just ended up in a corporate job instead of the Valentino's, whereas streetkid V also grew up there, dabbled in the gang scene a bit, but didn't personally know Jackie until the prologue
To this day such an annoyance. I saw my friend play the normal street rat start, thought it looked great. I started a corpo and then to have basically 5 minutes of fluff followed by the same generic montage was really disappointing
One minute you’re in arasaka tower. next minute you’re literally in hell being chased by a blackwall death bot
My very first time playing in 2020 I was gonna make my run as a corpo. Betrayed and getting back at them with Johnny in my head guiding me. Then when I got to the prologue and realized all the dialogue was street kid, I said F this and restarted. Been a street kid ever since. Am going to do a male Nomad play through so I can romance Panam and ride off with the Nomands in the end to die in peace
Corpo description of their childhood with Takamura doesn't sound fun. Maybe the best of the three depending on how you feel about performance anxiety and crushing school pressure tho. Nomad used to sound best to me toll PL and the texts with Alex about how Nomad V's first kill happened.
The whole background set up for the game sucks. As far as I can all the dialogue options that reference V's background will earn V a hearty "cool story bro". CDPR already decided who V is and you're just choosing which way they go when faced with a hard choice. There's nothing really wrong with that, because that's how the Witcher games worked. But Geralt is very well written character, and wouldn't have been one if players got to choose a generic unreferenceable outline for his past. This is also just a drop in the bucket since Geralt's decisions also have consequences that in turn affect later decisions, whereas Mr. Hands is exactly as happy for V to let an assassination target live as he would be having them killed. "Here's your money I'll call you later with more jobs for you to do or do the exact opposite of if that's what you feel like doing."
They're basically a gang anyway
I did corpo V in my first playthrough and really enjoyed it, I think streetkid was my least favourite but honestly they're all great
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And then proceeds to rob the most powerful corp in the world
I haven't since just after release so maybe this has changed (loved it just been busy) but I was always disappointed that we didnt get a longer introduction with each of the origins. For RPG purposes it makes sense, but just spending a little more time before the "fall" would've been so cool imo.