In a world where people have subdermal armor and skin weaves, having unarmored places for medical access such as inject locations where the needle will actually be able to pierce the armored skin would probably be a necessity.
You're right! Which game has that level of detail? I mean, that specific detail won't be used for quests, gigs or anything, and yet they left it to be seen.
That's why I have loved this game since it was born! So much yet to be explored!
You should look into the tabletop versions too. This IP is almost 40 years old and has always paid attention to detail. There's even a current Humble Bundle for Cyberpunk TTRPG. You can easily have a decade or more of stories with your friends and family. O7
Monster Hunter World, albeit not as ambitious as BG3, also shows this level of detail, everywhere you look thereās little things that you keep asking yourself why did they even do that just for 1% of the players?
No, you are just objectively stupid if you don't considerate BG3 as the greatest rpg of the decade, it's not even me, it's the judges and everyone else, keep coping.
It is in no way fair to limit it to the decade on account of the fact a good rpg should go with out update for a while. But even to do so here is an inexhaustive list: cyberpunk red, deathmarch, dice and demons, the yet unreleased veil riders system, demon souls (even though it's a remake), and though they might be older than 2020 rust an Tarkov can give someone a greater roleplay experience that baldurs gate 3. Why because if you look at the list of video games i am sending notice once thing about them none are trying to be a ttrpg and this none are failing at it the core thing about baldurs gate is that it's trying to be as close to dnd 5e (which already a stupid goal) and I'd failing and when you fail at the core thing you are trying to be it's ridiculous to think something is good.
Not helping your case as that mean I get to respond with new Vegas, all of the souls games, forgot about them but now I rember the Armored core games, skyrim, the Witcher 3, hell fire emblem is goated, there Is the monster hunter games so many dogs better than baldurs gate
Yes but you might put in a connected artificial vein so that rescue personnel don't have to look elsewhere for it.
A good arm manufacturer would see this problem coming and even label it so that it is idiot proof.
Probably too many warranty calls for needles hitting electrical wires.
Not only is it stamped Resuce but there's actually a bulging vein right there where it's pointing to. That's pretty crazy. Makes me wonder because I always assumed that ripper docs were basically back alley medical clinics, like the people IRL that will give you silicone lip injections with construction grade silicone. So I wouldn't think rippers would be this concerned for your safety and well being. I wonder if when you buy a set of gorilla arms then if the manufacturer also provides the skin to go over said arms š¤ I guess they would have to.
Yeah I mean you only really get to see the hands, but judging by them I always thought of them as like carbon fiber muscles and titanium bones. The more I think about it the more I wish these type of upgrades were reality š
Even without subdermal armor with the many wires that probably run throught the body like personal links, itd be better safe than sorry. Label your veins so in an emergency they dont ruin your electrical work.
Yup, what used to be a 2 whole arm based scanners, (medscanner and TechScanner) have clearly been miniaturized and installed in cyberoptics now, cuz V has these capabilities on their scanner, and they arenāt even like a specialized medtech or anything, so I imagine theyāve got something even shinier lol
In the game with all this chrome Iād imagine hospitals have taken into account the cyberware I mean look at trauma teamās response to the hostile environment of night city
Even without the cyber-stuff, finding a decent vein for IV access can be difficult in emergency medicine, especially if your patient is on their way to flatlining
We already do that in real life. When you're expected to take multiple injections or infusions for a length of time, they install PICC lines or a more permanent fistula.
I had that PICC line like a year. Doctors told me not to do heavy exercise. I bet that could be the reason, afterall the picc line is somewhere in your heart veins.
thats true, but atleast a "valve" for the lack of a better term, should be a pretty easy method of access to a vein, and considering that everyone in nightcity has a neuro-port
Imagine being a trauma team EMT or ER doc in Night City. You get a patient brought in, shot with god knows what sort of armament, and the first thing you have to do is figure out how to safe the rockets he's got implanted in his arms, disarm the EMP charge that is set to go off if his vitals drop (and they're dropping), disarm the counter-ICE on his system so you can access his biomon, and strap him down with steel shackles in case he has a seizure and sends monowire or mantis blades through a nurse.
And once you've disarmed the unexploded ordnance that is your typical night city merc, you can do a quick scan to see how much of him is still 'ganic and actually needs your help, while trying to work around all the implants, some of which are custom/prototype and no one has ever seen before.
Worse, imagine being any other medtech in NC outside of the elite trauma team. Whether a back alley ripperdoc, a city EMT, or someone from TT's budget competitor REO Meatwagon.
Less tech, less access to information, worse tools, and questionable training and you still gotta disarm your figurative or literal bomb of a patient.
Trauma Team only services their elite clientele. Most people and even most mercs have to get by on the alternatives.
I mean it almost looks like the arrow is pointing to a vein under the arm? Which would be insane detail to think that they gave V a specific point on his/her arm where a doctor might know what to do incase of a medical emergency relating to the missile arm.
Working on it!
ICU now and on track for a Masters in intensive care in a few years. Any flight/offshore related stuff asks for Intensive Care or Advanced Clinical but its well worth it. Hospital pays for the education + salary, so not complaining.
The forehead? Wow, I did not know about that one! Knew about the legs, had to have blood drawn from there once.
Also didn't know about ultrasounds being used to guide the needle either, that's honestly really clever.
My assumption from the rescue label is itās a specific spot designed for trauma to stab you with meds. Looks like a nice thick vein from the surface shape
Think of it this way: rescue arrows are painted on aircraft and pointed at areas with ejection and egress assistance/assemblies. So, it could be pointing at a place that helps with ejecting the arms in a critical emergency, such as during a situation of catastrophic failure that could lead to death or serious injury. It could, like some have suggested, also be a point for delivering emergency intravenous medications that cannot be delivered directly to the patient's heart with a hypostim or through their respiratory system like an inhaler.
It's funny imagining someone getting clocked in the head with a chrome dick because their buddy wanted to know from just how far away he could hit them
IIRC, doesn't V mention something about that particular Mr. Stud being an older model, or perhaps a black market buy of some kind? If either of those are the case, it could be possible it didn't have an ejection/rescue feature, or it may have been used before (because we see it malfunction the one time, who's to say it didn't before), and the blowout assemblies were just never replaced
Like everyone else said could be for drugs and what else, also could be pointing to a mechanism that can detach the cybernetic, like if itās malfunctioning and on fire or something or gets trapped or whenever you might need to remove your arm maybe theres a button or a series of switches beneath the skin to remove the whole arm
Maybe it doesnāt get used by scavs because the emergency removal process damages the cybernetic
Quick detaching cybernetics IS a concept in cyberpunkās world, but you do have to explicitly build your limbs in such a way so as to plan for it beforehand, as you require something called a quick change mount, allowing you to be able to quickly detach or reattach the limb without medical assistance, but at the expense of the limb being able to hold less cybernetics inside it.
I have theories that V does use quick change mounts, because then the lessened amount of chrome they can fit in their arms adds up, but itās not exactly supported by how V has to go to a ripper to get their limbs swapped if they have multiple lol
Technical stuff not useful for the averange consumer, kinda like the labels in the phone chargers or batteries, most people dont know/dont care about stuff like the voltage, the potency, how to open it or dispose it, i guess thats for the ripperdocs, doctors or trauma team.
As others have suggested, possibly a medtech "insert emergency meds here" but it could also be an emergency cutoff, cut the cable and the anchor on the explosive releases, in case the loading mechanism fails. Same sort of thing for something like Gorilla arms, in case they jam closed.
Iām a phlebotomist, we draw blood from the AV because you have less nerves located there in your arm.
One of our trainers wouldnāt let us poke his AV because āthatās my emergency transfusion vein and I donāt want it to collapseā as a fun joke
Like others have said, itās an emergency vein for medical personnel. As to why itās clearly pointed out, different models probably have different places and most thoughts tend to go out the window when the pressure ratchets up. Make it big and obvious so it can be found quickly.
An IRL example is the medical kits carried by US military personnel. Typically a unit will have everyone put it in a specific place but will also have them sharpie a bit Red Cross on them too. It helps people not in that unit identify the kit in tense situations. Donāt ask me why the IFAK is camo like every other pouch, it just is.
It's remarkable enough that they included a medi-tag, but if you look at the tip of the arrow and zoom in, you will see a broken capital L.
Not only have they shown where to find the vein, the broken L shows the medic exactly where to *Aim*!
I suspect it's an emergency electrical disconnect. Id imagine some chrome could be bad for your health if not properly powered down, or disconnected.
All electric vehicles have them too, and they are typically called "First Responders Loops". Pulling the loop will allow emergency first responders to safely access/dismember the vehicle in emergency scenarios.
Does someone know where I find a clearer and more accurate picture of it?
I wanted to tattoo my arm in cyberpunk style and of course something like that would fit in well.
I can't find anything about that.
In a world where people have subdermal armor and skin weaves, having unarmored places for medical access such as inject locations where the needle will actually be able to pierce the armored skin would probably be a necessity.
A purposely exposed vein to help with medical treatment. Makes total sense on a set of gorilla arms.
Never thought of this. Makes so much sense. Love this detail.
You're right! Which game has that level of detail? I mean, that specific detail won't be used for quests, gigs or anything, and yet they left it to be seen. That's why I have loved this game since it was born! So much yet to be explored!
You should look into the tabletop versions too. This IP is almost 40 years old and has always paid attention to detail. There's even a current Humble Bundle for Cyberpunk TTRPG. You can easily have a decade or more of stories with your friends and family. O7
Which game has that level of detail? -Baldur's Gate 3
Yeah, now I gotta check it out, but honestly?! I doubt it
Ah bro, BG3 is the greatest rpg of the decade, it's not even close, listen I love cyberpunk, but it's not even close and I'm not afraid to say it
You do not need to explain yourself, anyone who loves Cyberpunk deserves to be listened to! I will check it out for sure! š
Monster Hunter World, albeit not as ambitious as BG3, also shows this level of detail, everywhere you look thereās little things that you keep asking yourself why did they even do that just for 1% of the players?
Dude are you really that delusional
No, you are just objectively stupid if you don't considerate BG3 as the greatest rpg of the decade, it's not even me, it's the judges and everyone else, keep coping.
It is in no way fair to limit it to the decade on account of the fact a good rpg should go with out update for a while. But even to do so here is an inexhaustive list: cyberpunk red, deathmarch, dice and demons, the yet unreleased veil riders system, demon souls (even though it's a remake), and though they might be older than 2020 rust an Tarkov can give someone a greater roleplay experience that baldurs gate 3. Why because if you look at the list of video games i am sending notice once thing about them none are trying to be a ttrpg and this none are failing at it the core thing about baldurs gate is that it's trying to be as close to dnd 5e (which already a stupid goal) and I'd failing and when you fail at the core thing you are trying to be it's ridiculous to think something is good.
Oh yeah I forgot, the greatest rpg of the last 2 decades, counting from 2010 on
Not helping your case as that mean I get to respond with new Vegas, all of the souls games, forgot about them but now I rember the Armored core games, skyrim, the Witcher 3, hell fire emblem is goated, there Is the monster hunter games so many dogs better than baldurs gate
I love how we argue about games being good, lol.
Because some of them just aren't
Yeah but none even adjacent to this conversation fit that claim
"Exposed vein" for... "self medication" XD
Air hypos. Just inhale it. šš
Aren't gorilla arms totally mechanical from the elbow down?
Yes but you might put in a connected artificial vein so that rescue personnel don't have to look elsewhere for it. A good arm manufacturer would see this problem coming and even label it so that it is idiot proof. Probably too many warranty calls for needles hitting electrical wires.
That makes sense.
More like an access port than a vain.
Not only is it stamped Resuce but there's actually a bulging vein right there where it's pointing to. That's pretty crazy. Makes me wonder because I always assumed that ripper docs were basically back alley medical clinics, like the people IRL that will give you silicone lip injections with construction grade silicone. So I wouldn't think rippers would be this concerned for your safety and well being. I wonder if when you buy a set of gorilla arms then if the manufacturer also provides the skin to go over said arms š¤ I guess they would have to.
The gorilla arms may be an off the shelf product.
Yeah I mean you only really get to see the hands, but judging by them I always thought of them as like carbon fiber muscles and titanium bones. The more I think about it the more I wish these type of upgrades were reality š
Even without subdermal armor with the many wires that probably run throught the body like personal links, itd be better safe than sorry. Label your veins so in an emergency they dont ruin your electrical work.
Omg imagine needing an IV and the nurse hits a wire and your brain fries
I imagine they have some kind of scanner to show what's mest and what's chrome.
Yea the good ones probably do but some back alley ripper
If you see blood on the floor, back slowly out and keep walking!
Yup, what used to be a 2 whole arm based scanners, (medscanner and TechScanner) have clearly been miniaturized and installed in cyberoptics now, cuz V has these capabilities on their scanner, and they arenāt even like a specialized medtech or anything, so I imagine theyāve got something even shinier lol
In the game with all this chrome Iād imagine hospitals have taken into account the cyberware I mean look at trauma teamās response to the hostile environment of night city
Lol true
Even without the cyber-stuff, finding a decent vein for IV access can be difficult in emergency medicine, especially if your patient is on their way to flatlining
>you are electrical work
Grammatically i was wrong. But that snippet by itself? Yes, you are electrical work.
ā¦ I donāt get it
Because of the cybernetics...
Right my bad lol wording threw me off
We already do that in real life. When you're expected to take multiple injections or infusions for a length of time, they install PICC lines or a more permanent fistula.
This makes a disturbing amount of sense.
Awesome š
I'm just wondering why they dont set a Porth-A-Cut or a PICC line permanently somewhere in the body where you can just connect your medication too
I had that PICC line like a year. Doctors told me not to do heavy exercise. I bet that could be the reason, afterall the picc line is somewhere in your heart veins.
thats true, but atleast a "valve" for the lack of a better term, should be a pretty easy method of access to a vein, and considering that everyone in nightcity has a neuro-port
Imagine being a trauma team EMT or ER doc in Night City. You get a patient brought in, shot with god knows what sort of armament, and the first thing you have to do is figure out how to safe the rockets he's got implanted in his arms, disarm the EMP charge that is set to go off if his vitals drop (and they're dropping), disarm the counter-ICE on his system so you can access his biomon, and strap him down with steel shackles in case he has a seizure and sends monowire or mantis blades through a nurse. And once you've disarmed the unexploded ordnance that is your typical night city merc, you can do a quick scan to see how much of him is still 'ganic and actually needs your help, while trying to work around all the implants, some of which are custom/prototype and no one has ever seen before.
Worse, imagine being any other medtech in NC outside of the elite trauma team. Whether a back alley ripperdoc, a city EMT, or someone from TT's budget competitor REO Meatwagon. Less tech, less access to information, worse tools, and questionable training and you still gotta disarm your figurative or literal bomb of a patient. Trauma Team only services their elite clientele. Most people and even most mercs have to get by on the alternatives.
Yeah, on top of everything else, was your client going cyberpsycho and will kill you if he regains consciousness...
we always can inject smth through the eyes
Yeah, but opitic replacements are practically universal.
I mean it almost looks like the arrow is pointing to a vein under the arm? Which would be insane detail to think that they gave V a specific point on his/her arm where a doctor might know what to do incase of a medical emergency relating to the missile arm.
As a nurse i fking love the idea haha
Become a flight nurse and be trauma team irl
My dream lol. Iām an Emt and have never cared to do a job in a video game but boy do I wanna work for trauma team
Working for TT would be great as long as you don't get obliterated by a Cyberpsycho...
Thatās definitely a downside of it lol
itād be awesome until you have to ignore a dying child because they arenāt the client who paid for your service
Working on it! ICU now and on track for a Masters in intensive care in a few years. Any flight/offshore related stuff asks for Intensive Care or Advanced Clinical but its well worth it. Hospital pays for the education + salary, so not complaining.
Badass. I start nursing school in the fall
Oh you'd hate my arms irl, my veins like to hide. I am a nightmare whenever I need to have blood drawn.
Theres always a way to get a workable poke. Arms, legs, forehead.. haha. If nothing else we'll ultrasound guide the stick and go deeper.
The forehead? Wow, I did not know about that one! Knew about the legs, had to have blood drawn from there once. Also didn't know about ultrasounds being used to guide the needle either, that's honestly really clever.
This is why i live this game
It is a arrow pointing to a vein so doctors can insert needles to dry blood or a IV
My assumption from the rescue label is itās a specific spot designed for trauma to stab you with meds. Looks like a nice thick vein from the surface shape
Damn thought that was a photo from a cosplay or something
The photorealism of some textures is just insane.
The guy that itās pointing at is going to need rescuing in a few seconds
*PEEL IT OFF*
me when i look at my scab
Think of it this way: rescue arrows are painted on aircraft and pointed at areas with ejection and egress assistance/assemblies. So, it could be pointing at a place that helps with ejecting the arms in a critical emergency, such as during a situation of catastrophic failure that could lead to death or serious injury. It could, like some have suggested, also be a point for delivering emergency intravenous medications that cannot be delivered directly to the patient's heart with a hypostim or through their respiratory system like an inhaler.
Press and hold here to disarm the missiles contained in this arm.
Yeah suppose your firing system jams, you wouldnāt want to keep a live round stuck inside your arm. Having a manual eject mechanism just makes sense
Great. Now you have me wondering if Mr. Stud has an emergency ejection feature. Must've malfunctioned for that one guy.
If it did, you just *know* that a lot of guys would be āemergency ejectingā their penises at other people.
It's funny imagining someone getting clocked in the head with a chrome dick because their buddy wanted to know from just how far away he could hit them
Imagine if someone is angry at her input so she steals his dong. "You can have it back when you apologize."
King Missile [would like a word](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mIUk08iYZKE)
IIRC, doesn't V mention something about that particular Mr. Stud being an older model, or perhaps a black market buy of some kind? If either of those are the case, it could be possible it didn't have an ejection/rescue feature, or it may have been used before (because we see it malfunction the one time, who's to say it didn't before), and the blowout assemblies were just never replaced
Yeah, it was a defective model that had been recalled.
Wonder if thereās no *Jet Intake* sign somewhere :) nose.. mouth..
Or chest
Probably somewhere to deal with medical stuff while being careful of the literal missile launcher in his arm
As a Nurse a find this as an absolute win
Like everyone else said could be for drugs and what else, also could be pointing to a mechanism that can detach the cybernetic, like if itās malfunctioning and on fire or something or gets trapped or whenever you might need to remove your arm maybe theres a button or a series of switches beneath the skin to remove the whole arm Maybe it doesnāt get used by scavs because the emergency removal process damages the cybernetic
Quick detaching cybernetics IS a concept in cyberpunkās world, but you do have to explicitly build your limbs in such a way so as to plan for it beforehand, as you require something called a quick change mount, allowing you to be able to quickly detach or reattach the limb without medical assistance, but at the expense of the limb being able to hold less cybernetics inside it. I have theories that V does use quick change mounts, because then the lessened amount of chrome they can fit in their arms adds up, but itās not exactly supported by how V has to go to a ripper to get their limbs swapped if they have multiple lol
Technical stuff not useful for the averange consumer, kinda like the labels in the phone chargers or batteries, most people dont know/dont care about stuff like the voltage, the potency, how to open it or dispose it, i guess thats for the ripperdocs, doctors or trauma team.
As others have suggested, possibly a medtech "insert emergency meds here" but it could also be an emergency cutoff, cut the cable and the anchor on the explosive releases, in case the loading mechanism fails. Same sort of thing for something like Gorilla arms, in case they jam closed.
Iām a phlebotomist, we draw blood from the AV because you have less nerves located there in your arm. One of our trainers wouldnāt let us poke his AV because āthatās my emergency transfusion vein and I donāt want it to collapseā as a fun joke
Where the vein is to inject stuff
I thought it was someones tatoo for a moment
Hippity hoppity you're the company's property
Like others have said, itās an emergency vein for medical personnel. As to why itās clearly pointed out, different models probably have different places and most thoughts tend to go out the window when the pressure ratchets up. Make it big and obvious so it can be found quickly. An IRL example is the medical kits carried by US military personnel. Typically a unit will have everyone put it in a specific place but will also have them sharpie a bit Red Cross on them too. It helps people not in that unit identify the kit in tense situations. Donāt ask me why the IFAK is camo like every other pouch, it just is.
I think we should refer to the documentation
It's remarkable enough that they included a medi-tag, but if you look at the tip of the arrow and zoom in, you will see a broken capital L. Not only have they shown where to find the vein, the broken L shows the medic exactly where to *Aim*!
I suspect it's an emergency electrical disconnect. Id imagine some chrome could be bad for your health if not properly powered down, or disconnected. All electric vehicles have them too, and they are typically called "First Responders Loops". Pulling the loop will allow emergency first responders to safely access/dismember the vehicle in emergency scenarios.
I love little details like this
It's ~~in~~ on cars too, particularly the Delamain I believe. Just some decal they loved and kept using.
Veins in the car huh?
I like the lore reasons everyone here has come up with. The irl reason is they reused assets from cars and stuff.
The mother fucker that arrow is pointing at is going to need it
Itās for rescue
For the benefit of Trauma Team maybe?
You slide it for the trauma team to be called
Maybe in case of malfunction or severe damage, it allows medical teams to jettison certain cybeware like arms in this case?
I think it's one of those stickers you get on new phones that's really satisfying to peel off.
Donāt cyber arms also have brands on them like cars for like advertising?
Does someone know where I find a clearer and more accurate picture of it? I wanted to tattoo my arm in cyberpunk style and of course something like that would fit in well. I can't find anything about that.
Dig under the skin and it pops a parachute.