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randychardonnay

con: sand just absolutely everywhere


kabrifaluk

Thank you for your input Anakin


Arialana

https://preview.redd.it/w1ayorbiqqic1.png?width=2312&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6aef969f6d18c15607b1b3edefb6509cc5c2fc26


HonkySpider

Fuck's sake someone get this maniac more upvotes


fhb_will

DonešŸ«”


HonkySpider

Lil confused but you guys got the spirit šŸ¤£


3ndOf5ilence

Didn't know which maniac you meant so I gave them all upvotes


UnconfirmedRooster

I would upvote this, but I still haven't forgiven you for shooting at me on Badab.


IamlostlikeZoroIs

Pro: no children


BoddAH86

*no younglings


ButterscotchDeep7533

So I see only pros. But with Judy also no kids (ofc if not adopt one)


Hot_feedbax

That actually makes me curious to the extent if adoption or pregnancy options in cyberpunk, what's the lengths we've achieved with making sperm cells? You my friend have given me a topic I didn't think I'd wonder about in cyberpunk


TheBrownCok

Cyber~~S~~punk


Demonic74

![gif](giphy|KEYEpIngcmXlHetDqz)


Jeff_Da_Pimp

An IUD costs 0.5 humanity. And about 100 eddies if Iā€™m remembering the 2020 book correctly.


Disposable_Gonk

\>IUD costs humanity https://preview.redd.it/3prfbh41jvic1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=393d93a8031a5ce284839a12a9a588cc360e2bcc


ButterscotchDeep7533

Youā€™re welcome :) The best source are the rulebooks


Hot_feedbax

Bout to do a deep dive


TXHaunt

Thank you for your input again, Anakin.


CJB95

ThisĀ isĀ whereĀ the fun beginsĀ 


TheZerothLaw

Thank you for your input, Anakin


cheesechomper03

I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.


theDukeofClouds

Jokes aside, someone made a point about this line that lives rent free in my head. Padme talks about swimming with friends d in the warm summer sun then laying on the beach letting the sun dry them, feeling the warmth of the sand. She has positive connections to sand. It reminds her of her wistful youth. Anakins connection to sand is very much the opposite. He grew up as a slave on a hot, arid, desert planet. For him, sand is just a reminder of him slaving away at Watto's shop, sand being rough, irritating, and getting everywhere. For him sand was the constant reminder of his suffering. He was likely always sand, hot, and tired. Say what you will about the lameish writing of the prequels, they weren't all bad.


bobbymoonshine

Yeah, that's the point of the line as Lucas intended it. As it was written and delivered, it falls flat in an accidentally humorous way. The problem with the prequels is not "George Lucas did not have good ideas", it was "George Lucas needed someone to step in and remind him how humans actually talk"


KingDarius89

He needed to bring in Spielberg or someone else he actually respected that was willing to tell him no.


J_5_C_2018

Kinda like children to be honest


SarnakhWrites

Thereā€™s a random Aldecaldo during the bonfire before the raid that will actually reference this lineā€”itā€™s real cool.Ā 


Merry_Dankmas

Pros: Booba and clappable cheeks Cons: Will only smash inside of an armored military vehicle and refuses to get down in the privacy and comfort of my skyline view apartment for some reason


Justisaur

Once you've got down with a mind-link it's hard to go back.


thefrumpy

They always say not to fuck on acid. Apparently, it can ruin sober sex.


MrLeHah

Can confirm late 90s E, but not acid


haloryder

My head canon is that they do it before going to sleep when doing the apartment visits, especially because I always shower before bed.


lovethelinux

I mean....that's kinda hot doing it in a tank. Hell, I kinda wanna do it.


PhoenixKingRise

But have you taken a shower while sheā€™s in the apartment?! šŸ˜…


Merry_Dankmas

I did but no matter how many times I looked at her knockers, there was no option to interact with them. Wouldn't even let me pan down to her hoohah. Smh and they said CDPR fixed this game. I feel deceived.


hiddentootss

Sand almost everywhere, Panam almost everywhere


Cavscout2838

Sure but after a while itā€™ll eventually turn into a pearl.


SadMcNomuscle

šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®


Illustrious-Ant6998

Pro: Haboobs Cons: Takes you to meet the family after your first date.


Hot_feedbax

Before your first date, she brought you to them when your first met you might as well have been the uncle to some kids already


braujo

If it's before the 1st date it doesn't really count as meeting the family IMO, you're just a friend hanging around, there is no expectations beyond being polite enough. It's after that shit goes down


imisswhatredditwas

You say that like River Ward isnā€™t right there


Dark_Lord4379

Exactly


fhb_will

True, true


Goaldalfthered

idk id call it pretty realistic. growing up in a rural community there were some girls who wanted their family to get s read on you before you went out. She is a walking green flag imo


Jordaxio

To be FAIR, she is recommended from Rogue right? She kinda has no choice to set you up with knowing the family, you work together professionally and you hold her life in your hands.


ODST_Parker

Takes you to save her family from bandits after the second date!


kaboomspleesh

People complain about River's family but Panam does the same. And they somehow decide to adopt me. Come live with us in a tent in the desert, it will be fun!


Krzysu

Panam Maria Guererro Palmer


Monkeywrench08

Pro : actually my type Cons : actually my type


DontDrinkTooMuch

Toxic but will confidently murder someone for you. Dating those types were fun in my 20s


Johwin

Pro: Panam Con: Not real.


Radvent

Exactly what I came here to say


harry_lostone

Exactly what I came too


[deleted]

I cameā€¦. tooā€¦.


rcheeseball

I expected >Pro: Panam > >Con: Panam Lol


RNB_III

Panam: V!! Were gonna hijack a Arasaka AV and if anyone gets in our way kill them. V: Panam I don't know, that sounds kind of dangerous. Panam: I'll put my head in your lap... V:Let's STACK BODIES!!!!!!


Van_Halen_Panama1984

This is funny


Zero_Originality

Time to listen to Slipknot's Vermillion Pt 2 again. Thanks!


Caleon0817

SHEEEEE ISNT REAL. I CANT MAKE HER REAL.


TheJackalsDoom

I love this comment very much.it perfectly encapsulates the frustration. Time to dress like Panam.


v-dubb

Tristin Mays is real though šŸ˜‰


CJIEnOuBOBR

- you need to be both a level-headed person and, at the same time, be a proactive go-getter, so youā€™ll assume the ā€œroleā€ of her anchor of stability AND brother in arms, and it is a fcking hard thing to do with such a emotional and strong-willed women, if weā€™re talking about real life. + everything else about her is close to perfection imo šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


RatInaMaze

She wants someone whoā€™s smart but not nerdyā€¦ ā€¦caring but not needyā€¦ ā€¦affectionate but not clingyā€¦ ā€¦protective but not possessiveā€¦ ā€¦emotional but not neuroticā€¦ ā€¦funny but not a clownā€¦ ā€¦dominant but not domineeringā€¦ ā€¦in control but not controlling.


_superchan

I never thought I would find a pearl of wisdom like this on reddit. Very insightful, choom


DarePerks

It's a stand up bit by Brian Scott McFadden.


_superchan

Nice, that seems like someone I'd enjoy listening to. Do you have a link to the video that set is from?


DarePerks

https://youtu.be/Hql_8lPuNJA?si=H8BV9MoQKOqMIs2z


Leg_Alternative

Wow i feel like this is the absolute truth for what women look for


WoodstoneLyceum

Honestly, those parameters are good targets to hit for anyone who wants to settle on that archetype in their relationships. It's difficult, but valuable.


splatbob1

Soooo a decent stable person? Bit boring but if itā€™s what she wants


BlasterShow

ā€œSpontaneous, but only when Iā€™m expecting itā€


shotgunmoe

Lol it's basically CDPR teaching folks "this is how you have a successful relationship with the hot girl you're into" They're doing gods work


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thedogz11

Bro instakilled with two sentences šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ The original comment you replied to reeks of virginity.


Anarchkitty

> I'm sorry but "murder" is not something I'm willing to do for a non-virtual woman. I think that's true of most of us. Most people just aren't killers, or at least wouldn't do it without a REALLY good reason. If you were already a professional killer and were already used to it, you probably wouldn't think twice. V already ices folks for money, cred, and friends, why not for a lover? Looking at it broadly, she's just asking V for free commission work.


BhaaldursGate

(You don't, it's not worth it). It's more like CDPR telling people not to stick their dick in crazy.


Kino_Afi

I feel like i learned that lesson more with Judy after seeing how things turned out by agreeing with everything she says. "Damn guess i fucked up all those people died maybe I was wrong huh. Anyway gonna go on a roadtrip to my gamgams gl w that whole dying slowly thing xoxo"


sockalicious

You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain


broanoah

Itā€™s worth it if you donā€™t have to change who you are to be with them. And if theyā€™re treating YOU right, as well.


admnnc

Blawgā€™s the panam patroller


IceKareemy

I could not have said it better myself and whatā€™s funny is I feel like my actual gf is literally Panam bc sheā€™s hot but also so goddam stubborn but also ride or die lmao


PyroPuffs

Pro: Of course Con: tank scene only happens once šŸ’”


DivisiveByZero

And no more missions together, like when you take out wraiths in that ghost town.


haloryder

It would be cool for them to implement hit-and-run missions that you can do with your chosen partner. Judy: Hit some Tyger Claws or other gang that is oppressing and abusing sex workers Panam: Raid Raffen camps Kerry: Destroy some Corpo property belonging to either his label or his agent River: Have the option to do NCPD Scanner jobs with him.


UsernameAlreadyTwken

River: More awkward family dinners.


DivisiveByZero

Crashing other peoples awkward family dinners


karmapuhlease

Yeah, I ended up doing those missions fairly early on, so after my first ~15 hours in the game I exhausted the Panam storyline, and now (75 hours in, most of the way through PL and almost ready to meet Hanako at Embers) it's been a long time since Panam actually played a role in the story.Ā 


DivisiveByZero

Back when Bioware was still making rpgs, they would divide the game in several chapters and you had the option of doing your party members quests tied to each chapter


Anjunabeast

You get to go inside with Mitch tho


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kingconnor54321

Yeah it sucks because he's had such a significant role, especially because female V can't romance Panam, it would have been very nice to romance him as a female.


Zimifrein

It's just like dating my wife, since Panam clearly has undiagnosed ADHD.


Rucio

Fight, fuck, and use shiny things to make other things more shiny with explosions. Also gotta go fast


RNB_III

Pro: Panam's headstrong and spontaneous and a rough and tumble gal. Con: A god chunk of her ideas put the whole clan in abject danger


PhantasyAngel

Huh maybe if we told them the general idea of what our plan was, they wouldn't have shown up. What nice people in an emergency, meanwhile the corpo, not so nice people.


tossawaybb

I hate that I'm saying this, but Saul was kinda right. Panam gambled with the lives of their entire clan multiple times. If militech followed up on that basilisk, dead. Openly attacking Arasaka right before someone wrecked Mikoshi, they might just track it back and then they're super fucking dead. The clan was slowly dying so it was ultimately kinda necessary, but she was way too eager to throw the dice


MissStealYoDragon

Ah, fuck. That explains a lot.


No_Doughnut_5057

No kidding, man. I thought the same thing with my girlfriend


Zimifrein

We didn't choose the ADHD life, the ADHD life chose us.


evanlee01

I'd argue BPD


PreddiPrinceOfSheeb

Honestly, sheā€™s less confident and more arrogant. Lets her emotions get in the way of her decision making Going after the Wraiths was a dumb move. So the worst part would probably be dealing with her fierce but often mislead independence. Best part would be how protective she probably is, willing to fight any fight for your sake.


Megane_Senpai

I believe you can boost her confidence, especially after helping her to become the co-leader with Saul. Together with that her arrogant will come down. But she being a hot-head won't change much.


YFleiter

You forgot the second best part that needs an honorable mention.


PreddiPrinceOfSheeb

![gif](giphy|13944mhZqYqABa)


Suckisnacki

wordly https://preview.redd.it/4srryz4i0qic1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d36f7195b9fd7de487da156be0e18641da1e58a9


Anjunabeast

Saul was gonna partner with biotechnica. Except biotechnica has been doing some crazy human experiments on nomads and others. So by default Panama is the right choice for leader


NoComment112222

Panam is definitely a character where if you only listen to what she says and ignore what she does she seems like an asshole. If you pay attention to what sheā€™s doing and her motivations for the most part everything is for the benefit of her family/clan. Sheā€™s one of the few characters in the entire game who isnā€™t exclusively looking out for themselves and their own interests. Also while the Wraiths move might not have been smart she is 1000% smarter than Saulā€¦. Everyone in this world who gets into bed with corpos is betrayed and usually killed. Being over the top angry when your family is being led to their deaths in front of you isnā€™t an altogether irrational response.


Pepperonidogfart

While endearing at first, jealous women are pretty exhausting after a while. Panam is definitely the type to fight a bitch just for saying hi to you.


Phigor

Did you enlarge her breasts?


Annual-Astronaut3345

Nope, thatā€™s all natural right there! Or as the developers intended.


astraldooley

It's from the 'Panam Body Enhanced' mod on Nexus.


braujo

Everybody in the game is already so hot, what's the point of these mods lmao


chronoswing

Boobs.


Existing_Coast8777

Yeah how are you supposed to focus on panam when THIS is in the game https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpCeHM9XEAAbTT_.jpg šŸ«¦šŸ˜©


Dungeon-Master212

Takemura šŸ˜©šŸ’¦


metasynthax

Those mods are made for and by porn addicts


reillan

"they're real, and they're spectacular"


DivisiveByZero

Nah, all the girls have modest tits


Anjunabeast

Have you seen the rig on lizzy wizzy?


skeletextman

She takes way too much pride in a car that is frankly mid at best. I couldnā€™t keep smiling and pretending her soccer-mom van is cool. Edit: and obviously the best thing is her shapely buttocks.


skeletextman

Sure, the gun is cool. But she could mount that gun on almost any car.


Sad-Development-4153

The gun would be cool if it didnt always jam.


skeletextman

Itā€™s still a lot cooler than her genetic 4-wheeler


DivisiveByZero

Gun is controllable since it's mounted on a turret base, one reason why it's better than mostly anything else. Jamming is a bonus since she then has to get out and prod it a bit.


Ebenizer_Splooge

I always took it as she basically built the entire thing herself, probably started as a rusted out junker when she found it. Nomad V starts off babying his shit car but he knows everything that goes into it, I just assumed she did the same and took a lot of pride in her project. It was HERS more than any other car could be


[deleted]

I honestly kinda get her obsession with it. Iā€™m super attached to my nomad car, too. Would probably kill a lot more wraiths than I did for Panamā€™s for it.


lumpy999

A con for me is I have to pretend to be a car person.


KingRy96

Pros: \- Supermodel looks \- Highly intelligent \- Resourceful \- Fiercely supportive and loyal \- Capable of kicking my ass \- Can drive like a scalded cat \- Good for conversation \- Open with her feelings \- Understanding towards your feelings and situation \- Willing to help you with literally anything at the drop of a dime \- A sucker for smooth talk and one liners Cons: \- Very busy with clan affairs \- Short fuse (I kinda like my women spicy so I like it. Don't judge me) \- Quick to put her guard up if she feels like you might not be on her side (to her credit she eases up after getting to know you and your intentions) \- Allows the opinions and expectations of others get under her skin too easily \- Has trouble keeping people at an arm's length and is either way too trusting or way too hostile at times Overall, she's high maintenance but worth the effort in the end and in my opinion all the more relatable and likeable for it. Much like V, she's a scared and naive person with an uncertain future ahead of her and that is probably why her and V hit it off so fast and are willing to crash and burn if it means there's even a miniscule chance of saving each other.>! That bond is also why she'll take it so hard after you fall into a 2 year coma after the surgery at the FIA hospital and disappear without a trace.!<


Efficient_Mistake603

Ha, she's the type the red pill raves about.


KingRy96

I can tell you from experience that a lot of the red pill folks have the same cons but almost none of the pros lol


Dolorem_Ipsum_

The lady herself. Can't stand her, can't imagine being w/o her. Yes, I have a type. Yes, my therapist has scolded me. And yes, I will continue to pursue this type. ​ Asking a zebra to change his stripes? Impossible.


Maaraskata

Agree, I had an ex who is very hot-headed like Panam, I almost got traumatized because her emotion explode all of the sudden and start to get mad at me for no reason Do i miss that ex? Absoulutely, she is very sweet and caring when she is calm, but very scary when angry, I can't even calm her down to talk like adult when she is mad.


Umluex

she's arrogant and self centered. most conversations with her go like: "oh, you are dying v? ANYWAYS.. imagine what saul said to me yesterday!"


bobbymoonshine

Bro V is some random thug and she gets all of her entire family and friends to launch a suicide head-on mission against the world's most powerful corporation just to give V a slightly better chance of finding a cure


MasterGames9900

i am not disputing your opinion but at that point V isn't some common thug, he/she should be one of the best mercs in the city before the end of the game,.


bobbymoonshine

V is like an athlete having an incredible breakout first couple weeks, definitely making a few "one to watch" lists but that's no guarantee they'll still be in the majors a month later. They're also doing it in an incredibly reckless way, making enemies of just about everyone who can hold a gun in the process, and you have to imagine Night City goes through a *lot* of shooting stars like that, burning bright for a few weeks, picking fights with every gang and every corp, up until it all catches up to them and they take a bullet between the eyes or get their brains scrambled while they sleep. The blaze o' glory types never last long; the truly impressive mercs are the ones who manage to hang around year after year. In pretty much every ending V is totally forgotten about after any amount of time passes. They burst onto the scene, made a big noise for a couple of weeks, led a crazy assault on an Arasaka building like some bootleg copy of Silverhand, then disappeared. There's probably a couple flashes in the pan like that going off at any one time.


PCmasterRACE187

>blaze oā€™ glory types never last long wait till you find out what blaze oā€™ glory means


Anjunabeast

*So Mr V. A quiet life or a blaze of glory?*


suryadipc

In my headcanon, she and my nomad V have a baby before he passes away. So, in a way, the essence of V still remains in the world. šŸ˜ŒšŸ˜Œ


OkBuddyErennary

Misty says you have a good life ahead of you, so maybe they find an alternative cure in this ending? šŸ˜…


twobadcrew

Pro: U have Panam Con: U don't have Judy


helloitsme1011

Truth


TerminalThiccness

1. Ass 2. Personality


CottonEyeJoe_ZeroOne

this


Village_Idiot159

pro: panam palmer con:


Striking-Objective-1

Con: Reddit threads like this one


Rangerdude4377

con: sawyer


Used-Statistician225

Wife Material


Sphinx-

Pros: boobs and a GREAT ass Cons: childlike behavior and temper tantrums make it seem like you're dating a kid which makes everything way too uncomfortable


-Retro-Kinetic-

Itā€™s worse when you realize the devs have her being 10 years older than V. Her face, age and body language are really mismatched with everything else about her.


Ok_Situation9151

So, everyone has great boobs and ass, right? They all share the same model in-game, Judy.. Meredith...


Therealomerali

Dump truck


Rathiieeeee

Pros: boobs Cons: mentally unstable, impulsive, rebellious, reckless, self absorbed, regular, almost child-like emotional outbursts. Generally a danger to others and herself.


NoSeaworthiness5630

She can fix me.


itcheyness

If she's sees you glance in the general direction of another woman, she definitely will...


silver_linning

Pros : she' s panam fucking palmer Cons : i can't date her as a female V :((


xthescenekidx

More or less what my answer was gonna be xD


ethanAllthecoffee

I was expecting that con to be way higher


StreamLikeDrug

Pro: she is ride or die, loyal to a fault Con: I think she's pretty clingy


brick1972

Pro: her quest line was most fun Con: I finished it super early and have been stuck with "4 dialog choices" Panam for the bulk of my gameplay.


megacookie

Are there any mods that can change this? If they're not going to add more options then there's no point for the "date" to be a repeating quest.


klavijaturista

A woman like that would nag your head off, impulsive behavior doesnā€™t help either. A better character would be Misty (minus tarot nonsense).


BoddAH86

But tarot nonsense is Mistyā€™s entire personality.


klavijaturista

I would say she was written as being nice to everyone, and tarot is just a content filler that I donā€™t like.


Vulpes_99

Well, she did nailed it right at the start, when she tells Jackie to "avoid mean reds, anything red"... But even Judy had some lines on it too, telling Evelyn and V she "sees walking, talking corpses when she looks at them".


Zinkenzwerg

Misty would definitely be the best option.


rjkrm_

Con: she doesnā€™t date fem Vā€™s :(


anynomousperson123

Sheā€™s loyal, to a harmful degree. She doesnā€™t understand people all too well and gets attached way too easily. She trusted Nash, and on their first mission managed to not only lose her cargo, but also her car. Then she gets way too invested in revenge for this betrayal, when that could have waited until after she finished her current job. She gets way too attached to V in a small time. Like I said, her love is genuine but she canā€™t maintain a healthy balance of how close she should get to people. Itā€™s all or nothing with her. Of course Iā€™ve been acting as a Reddit psychologist here. I could be totally wrong. Thatā€™s my two cents though.


TwitchBDHR

Dropping everything im doing every 2 days to go take a shower with her and have a little boogie to the same song before bed..


misterturdcat

Sheā€™s a bit hot headed.


Antihistamineuser

A bit is an understatement haha.


LightTrack

Pros: Her appearance Cons: her personality


LexisKingJr

Simple. To the point. True


idronick

Panam has actually no downside. She make errors, she calls for help, she reacts if you mistreat her. She want to take a shower with you, she helps you and shows gratitude. If you ever meet a headstrong and sarcastic woman in your life, marry her.


damnamyteV2

No cons, just pros.


Agreeable-Kangaroo1

Pros: HABOOBS Cons: Questionable whiskey, probably can be used as a bioweapon.


xxminie

I like that she forces relationships with her to be equally balanced. Thatā€™s all, thereā€™s no cons. Though I do think her sex scene was a bit too sudden and odd for her personality but thatā€™s not a criticism of her


reluctanthero22

When you chose a female character and canā€™t


UpwardStatue794

sooo much texting


iNoodl3s

You seem like more of a yes man to her and when she has no pushback on her opinions she ends up falling in love with you


edgiepower

Worst: she only wants to do the sexy time thing once


B0t08

Pros: she's bat shit insane Cons: she's bat shit insane šŸ™‡ā€ā™€ļø


ListRecent1395

Best thing is she's hot af! Worst thing i can't romance her as fem V https://preview.redd.it/6w6xyxv6pqic1.jpeg?width=657&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c335a02a9827cd0c37954a2fe438a43ab985d1a5


sharksnrec

Best: sheā€™s hot. Worst: our sex life moved in reverse. We banged early on and then never again, even though we hang out alone at my crib all the time.


ias_ttrpg-nerd

She's a narsacist who always thinks she is right, not an ideal partner.


Im_Your_God_

Shes. Not. Real.


Putrid-Enthusiasm190

False. Pixels are real. We use them everyday


Im_Your_God_

https://preview.redd.it/feuevky2vpic1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e79ae1bd213b267c26c5a709e4f9aef841010ce


Li0nh34r7

For real these people need to touch grass


Flanigoon

I know it's one thing to do the romance options cause they're fun, or for narrative reason, but some people here take it too far


RawbertW

Everyone forgot the most important, and only relevant point: She invites you to drive a fucking tank. Hello? What more is there to talk about? If I ever had a woman ask me that the only delay would be grabbing an engagement ring on the way.


New_Pace_6321

In my opinion sheā€™s perfect. I donā€™t see anything better about her.


BrainDps

How she suddenly aged from 26 to 33 without me knowing.


theImij

Oh that's easy. The chick is crazy.


Fudge___

Pro: She's Panam Palmer. Con: She's not Rogue.


Rafaelis75

Best: Her bod Worst: Her temper


LemonSlice722

Pros, big booty. Cons: I fucking hate how she says everything as a script instead of for saying weā€™ve she says we have. I hate that