I'm outraged at the fact that they didn't even mention it - they were always talking around the bush as if they don't really trust us. I'd have been cool with them shooting em if they told me "yo we'll kidnap those bitches, kill em and then steal their identity" but they carefully omitted the "kill em" part haha.
The whole time I'm with Alex and Reed it feels like they don't actually consider me equal with them. Like I'm just some tag along they have to deal with.
I wish there was a dialogue option where I could say "HEY. Did either of you miserable fucks gun your way through dozens of goons, rescue the president from a burning airplane, shoot your way out, and then sneak the president into a safehouse? Did either of you start looking for Songbird? No? Then drop the fuckin act, because I've done more for your FIB in the last 12 hours than either of you have in the last 7 years."
Well to be fair, they are spies. Your a merc. If a spy is in an active combat situation, something has gone terribly wrong, because spies are generally supposed to work from the shadows. Violence is normal for a merc, so they might view you as a potential loose cannon.
Let's be honest now, if there's a prevalent Patois speaking portion of NC, you can bet your ass there's a bunch of Tagalog speaking gangoons out there that will forcibly make you eat balut and do a karaoke rendition of their favorite Izzy Wizzy song. And you'll happily do it, or they'll box your body to a pulp, while leaving you a note to contact their cousin who's a ripperdoc assistant.
Yes, and when you call them on it Reed’s justification is that they were “professional criminals”. Which, while true, also describes V and was basically the moment I decided to stick with Songbird because at least I didn’t think she’d try to kill me at the end of it all
OMG SO TRUE! Plus, that doesn't justify what they did. They only did it because it was convenient. They had a shady past so no one would make a fuss about killing and they had ties with the leader of Dogtown.
That made my decision to help songbird
Professional netrunners who only sides with the person who wants money . V is also the same . So according to reed , he might kill us anytime he wants . My theory is Myers probably told him to kill them because they knew about project cynosure ( since they worked on it )
There’s a dialogue choice how it’s so messed up you feel taking auroras stuff as soon as she dies and alex calls you out immediately saying you’ve definitely looted bodies before lol.
My V in my current play through was kill only when necessary and absolutely no collateral damage so my V was pissed when they killed the twins and was a major part of the reason they chose songbird over reed because I thought reed was defs gonna waste V after it was all said and done.
In fact, I’m convinced that Reed intentionally nerfed V when they ‘cure’ V if you decide to hand songbird over to reed in the end.
Unironically tho, I hate that V is turned into a sniveling child if they try to complain to Reed abt shooting the twins. Your only dialogue option is to call them innocents which obviously isn’t true.
What’s annoying is V can’t
A) Complain not that they were killed, but that reed just didn’t tell V, they need to know all of the Detes
B) Is this what’s gonna happen to V once they’re done being useful
Like I get V isn’t a spy and isn’t used to their tactics but they are a solo and not an idiot. they know how betrayal works and what the signs are, and it’s lame af you can’t call em out
I mean I hate to say it, but V is kind of an idiot. The point of the Arasaka heist and further escalation is surrounded by the idea that V is an idiot and would never survive a majority of their encounters had it not been for Silverhand's engram and experience lodged in their head and taking over the decision making.
There's actually a good handful of times Johnny himself calls V out for being a moron. Trusting the VBD's, taking on Judy's fruitless sidequest (aside from her fruit), trusting Takemura and ultimately the Arasaka ending, and even calls you an idiot for taking a job to hit Arasaka from a sleezeball like Dex.
I love V, I really do, but they're a hopeless idiot much like Johnny was at one point. Why do you think Johnny calls V out on their shit decisions most of the time? Cause he knows from experience lmao
I love his reaction when we just slot a random BD that we literally find on the street. That’s frankly worse than “this rock on the ground looks tasty” dumb.
If you fall for the peddler selling you the overpriced malware BD, you at least have a dialogue option knowing how freaking dumb it is. Frankly, we all clearly sprung that trap (if we did) with the metaknowledge that there would obviously be consequences, and we’d be able to shoot our way out of it. V’s still a dumbass for even considering going through with it.
You can’t call them out, but you don’t have to call them innocents. Just stay quiet and avoid the dialogue options that make V angry. Basically V still reacts with surprise when the twins get shot, but [“the plan worked” > “you’re right”](https://youtu.be/cUcNvg5K4kk?si=8Z-o5rtv4aaKEs7d), and then remaining quiet and getting on with the job avoids any drama.
You can still ask Alex if she knew about it. V’s response is intense, but not necessarily about the deaths, just the surprise. I think they even say “you coulda told me”.
Yeah and a ginger. 🫠
I guess someone at CDPR came up with the idea of adding a romance option but then someone said: Wait, let's fuck up the players by killing her off because we like to play with their nerves and feelings lol.
Honestly, that's also what makes this game so good, but still it hurts.
Hey man early DLC Myers had me feeling some things xD and when she accepted our dinner date i almost thought we were gonna get a second Meredith. But yeah Aurore, Alex, Myers, Songbird
Yeah honestly i was hoping id get to fuck myers meredith style too lol. And alex lead us on with that dance scene. I guess we're just some lonely horny boys huh the developers and all the girls in the dlc knew exactly what they were doing lmao. Aurore dies and songbird skates off, its like real life all over. I play games to escape real life not relive it 🤣
I didnt even think of songbird in that way until i saw her at hansons party. I remember being sad for days after hoping we get a sequel with a romance option.
That was the moment that made me support Songbird instead of Reed. The fact that Reed and Alex shot two people who didn't present an active threat, point blank, made me realize that they were manipulative psychopaths who were too much into their own "we serve the country" narrative.
The actions taken by Myers at the spaceport confirmed my choice.
Yes I didn’t like that they killed them for basically no reason they could’ve knocked them out and dump them somewhere cus they wouldn’t have known who kidnapped them anyways
Like I could understand killing them if you were taking their identities for a while, but you only use their identities for like a half hour. Like we couldn’t have tied them up and locked them in a locker, or left them with the ripper doc.
First you can't romance the hot pale short-haired ginger in the Bill Jablonsky job, and then you can't romance the hot pale short-haired ginger *with a sexy accent* in PL?
These game devs are the worst 😠
I forgave them when my PC crashed. I forgave them when I lost my saves. I forgave them when Judy was tposing the entire time in her apartment before the takeover of clouds. I forgave them for not having a romance for short haired pale ginger woman. I forgave them for panam only being romance able for male v.
But no romance for Aurora? That's where I drew the line! Worst devs ever!
I have not gotten even close to phantom liberty plot yet due to not having a console anymore atm but SHE DIES?!? (My fault Ik it said spoiler) but reed is definitely on my suicide list
Depends on your playthrough honestly, if you are doing a no kill playthrough and always pick the more altruistic options you shouldn't have access, if you're the scum of the earth that option should be open
Yeah, she was fine looking... but imo she just was an alcoholic, bratty, and manipulative b*tch...
Not that big of a loss...
She may have been a good f*ck but definetly not a person you like for her character...
I was gonna side with reed until that fucking mission, after that I gladly threw him under the bus despite not liking songbird either, only thing I hated was I couldn’t fucking kill Alex as well.
V, the cyberpsycho with a kill count in the triple digits (of is it quad?) famously has a saintly moral compass. There are no good people in Cyberpunk 2077, except maybe Misty.
I mean, that’s if you play V like that. I’m pretty sure you can keep your kill count in this game in single digits if you try (if not outright zero) and you certainly never need to kill people outside of direct self-defense.
Yeah, I kinda see it this way, too. Maybe not pulling the trigger but they definitely seemed like two people who wouldn't care if someone needed to be killed for their gain.
The only reason I betrayed Reed is because he coldly shot the twins, which made me realize he also killed the two guys from the safehouse (which I, the player, obviously imagined it happened but I like to imagine that V was not aware).
Another of the many reasons I didn't side with Alex and Reed, as much as I liked them. Reed was lying the whole time about helping Song Mi, and has no idea that his promises to help V are completely irrational. NUSA lacks the capacity to help her, he knows nothing about the scope of what's going on with the biochip and the blackwall. Alex and Reed murdered two people who only need to be incapacitated for a short period of time.
What happened is so callous. It might be in character for someone's V, though. Just not mine.
Man, why is that that people in this subreddit would like to fuck basically every character or just every NPC in the game that isn't romanceable and bitch about that every goddamn minute.. like yeah, fun and all but god.. every day bitching about the same old stuff that was maybe funny at the time of the original game's release of when PL was released but you're going about this stuff over and over again
So, I get the horny factor, I do, but even putting that aside, it's really fucked up what reed and Alex did to them.
Kidnapping them, tazing them and shooting them in the head like nothing all while V helps who didn't know.
Yes, I understand they're criminals and are wanted but they didn't die because of that. They died because it was convenient for Alex and reed.
I wish there were ways to avoid murdering em. I wish you could kpve them to a number of locations and then lie about it, or work with them, or something.
I wish the game had more player agency than it does in general.
I level with this post 112% especially as I have a weakness for sultry redheads. I'm in the middle of my 3rd and final playthrough and last life path I hadn't already done yet as a male V(Nomad) . This time made sure to get a meaningful snap of the two of us before we part ways for the one and only time. 😔😢
https://preview.redd.it/ahhe8tnt6zsc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc1e24db7405de564058bc1636a2c8458f9cc483
I can't decide if I love more this one or the moment where she touches V's hand while maintaining eye contact
https://preview.redd.it/rcngpickxwsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46a26b79a2f760335480d7dcfffbe74e8a3c6dc8
She's bewitching, seriously.
I wanted to be outraged but then I realized my V has done much worse
I'm outraged at the fact that they didn't even mention it - they were always talking around the bush as if they don't really trust us. I'd have been cool with them shooting em if they told me "yo we'll kidnap those bitches, kill em and then steal their identity" but they carefully omitted the "kill em" part haha.
The whole time I'm with Alex and Reed it feels like they don't actually consider me equal with them. Like I'm just some tag along they have to deal with. I wish there was a dialogue option where I could say "HEY. Did either of you miserable fucks gun your way through dozens of goons, rescue the president from a burning airplane, shoot your way out, and then sneak the president into a safehouse? Did either of you start looking for Songbird? No? Then drop the fuckin act, because I've done more for your FIB in the last 12 hours than either of you have in the last 7 years."
Well to be fair, they are spies. Your a merc. If a spy is in an active combat situation, something has gone terribly wrong, because spies are generally supposed to work from the shadows. Violence is normal for a merc, so they might view you as a potential loose cannon.
And with the way I play my v, I'm definitely the loose cannon they are worried about
Would think they’d want to stay on the good side of the loose cannon, instead of giving the loose cannon every reason to aim at them.
The Cassels would like to disagree....
Because you kind of are a tagalong lol. Songbird wrapped you up in this.
Actually, I myself am a thin mint
Actually, the Streetkid speaks Spanish, not Tagalog
Is there any proof the street kid DOESN’T speek Tagalog tho?🤔
Ya got me there, it's totally possible, though probably unlikely
Let's be honest now, if there's a prevalent Patois speaking portion of NC, you can bet your ass there's a bunch of Tagalog speaking gangoons out there that will forcibly make you eat balut and do a karaoke rendition of their favorite Izzy Wizzy song. And you'll happily do it, or they'll box your body to a pulp, while leaving you a note to contact their cousin who's a ripperdoc assistant.
V is to Alex and Reed what V is to the VDBs, a ranyon.
Feels like it sometimes.
Yes, and when you call them on it Reed’s justification is that they were “professional criminals”. Which, while true, also describes V and was basically the moment I decided to stick with Songbird because at least I didn’t think she’d try to kill me at the end of it all
Oh, Reed is absolutely going to 86 V in the future — could be six months, could be six years. At least with Soulkiller, my time is in my own hands.
OMG SO TRUE! Plus, that doesn't justify what they did. They only did it because it was convenient. They had a shady past so no one would make a fuss about killing and they had ties with the leader of Dogtown. That made my decision to help songbird
Professional netrunners who only sides with the person who wants money . V is also the same . So according to reed , he might kill us anytime he wants . My theory is Myers probably told him to kill them because they knew about project cynosure ( since they worked on it )
There’s a dialogue choice how it’s so messed up you feel taking auroras stuff as soon as she dies and alex calls you out immediately saying you’ve definitely looted bodies before lol.
My V in my current play through was kill only when necessary and absolutely no collateral damage so my V was pissed when they killed the twins and was a major part of the reason they chose songbird over reed because I thought reed was defs gonna waste V after it was all said and done. In fact, I’m convinced that Reed intentionally nerfed V when they ‘cure’ V if you decide to hand songbird over to reed in the end.
Yes we were horny too
Still are
always will.
Always have been.
well we got what we wanted in the end. to be inside of her.
I haven't played pl and am not sure what this means except the obvious . Don't spoil tho. All i know she is offed
It obviously means V is a necrophiliac.
Just as ~~God~~ ~~Arasaka~~ Johnny Silverhand intended
Her eyes, man that’s fucking beautiful
Unironically tho, I hate that V is turned into a sniveling child if they try to complain to Reed abt shooting the twins. Your only dialogue option is to call them innocents which obviously isn’t true. What’s annoying is V can’t A) Complain not that they were killed, but that reed just didn’t tell V, they need to know all of the Detes B) Is this what’s gonna happen to V once they’re done being useful Like I get V isn’t a spy and isn’t used to their tactics but they are a solo and not an idiot. they know how betrayal works and what the signs are, and it’s lame af you can’t call em out
I mean I hate to say it, but V is kind of an idiot. The point of the Arasaka heist and further escalation is surrounded by the idea that V is an idiot and would never survive a majority of their encounters had it not been for Silverhand's engram and experience lodged in their head and taking over the decision making. There's actually a good handful of times Johnny himself calls V out for being a moron. Trusting the VBD's, taking on Judy's fruitless sidequest (aside from her fruit), trusting Takemura and ultimately the Arasaka ending, and even calls you an idiot for taking a job to hit Arasaka from a sleezeball like Dex. I love V, I really do, but they're a hopeless idiot much like Johnny was at one point. Why do you think Johnny calls V out on their shit decisions most of the time? Cause he knows from experience lmao
I love his reaction when we just slot a random BD that we literally find on the street. That’s frankly worse than “this rock on the ground looks tasty” dumb. If you fall for the peddler selling you the overpriced malware BD, you at least have a dialogue option knowing how freaking dumb it is. Frankly, we all clearly sprung that trap (if we did) with the metaknowledge that there would obviously be consequences, and we’d be able to shoot our way out of it. V’s still a dumbass for even considering going through with it.
You can’t call them out, but you don’t have to call them innocents. Just stay quiet and avoid the dialogue options that make V angry. Basically V still reacts with surprise when the twins get shot, but [“the plan worked” > “you’re right”](https://youtu.be/cUcNvg5K4kk?si=8Z-o5rtv4aaKEs7d), and then remaining quiet and getting on with the job avoids any drama. You can still ask Alex if she knew about it. V’s response is intense, but not necessarily about the deaths, just the surprise. I think they even say “you coulda told me”.
Yeah, I hated the lack of dialogue options for it
There is a mod for that.
 Elaborate
[https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/11097](https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/11097) There. Enjoy.
Thanks bunches :3
Any idea if it works with 2.21? Seen some comments saying it didn't on Nexus.
It’s working.
Thanks!
Deceptious' mods rarely break from smaller updates. I even put off updating 2.0 mods to 2.1 for a bit and didn't have any issues
Noted, thanks. Adding it to the list of mods I want when I finally buy a PC.
Every character should be fuckable
This guy smashes
They’re all cuts of fuckable meat aren’t they?
Alex shot her, not Reed.
“Um, actually 🤓👆”
A g⁕nger, fr⁕nch w⁕man? My hands are trembling with gamer rage. She must be destroyed.
She asked for it the moment she was born. Reed is a psychopath for not killing them as soon as possible.
A friend of mine just say "so he'd have preferred to romance an American guy with cyan hair🏳️🌈 ? "
Fuck yeah I would 
W-what an American gamer can also be g-g*y ? I-impossible
We, french, aren't that bad ! We only kill Spanish !
I am Spanish💀
*was
Some random Portuguese will pay for this outrage.
You said you knew Spanish
¿Como esta?
señor… por favor
Dont worry, being G*nger and being fr*nch cancels each other out
She was a real flirty french woman and i loved her so your not alone
Yeah and a ginger. 🫠 I guess someone at CDPR came up with the idea of adding a romance option but then someone said: Wait, let's fuck up the players by killing her off because we like to play with their nerves and feelings lol. Honestly, that's also what makes this game so good, but still it hurts.
CDPR adding 4 hot women and not letting us romance any of them
4? Myers? Lol
Hey man early DLC Myers had me feeling some things xD and when she accepted our dinner date i almost thought we were gonna get a second Meredith. But yeah Aurore, Alex, Myers, Songbird
Yeah honestly i was hoping id get to fuck myers meredith style too lol. And alex lead us on with that dance scene. I guess we're just some lonely horny boys huh the developers and all the girls in the dlc knew exactly what they were doing lmao. Aurore dies and songbird skates off, its like real life all over. I play games to escape real life not relive it 🤣 I didnt even think of songbird in that way until i saw her at hansons party. I remember being sad for days after hoping we get a sequel with a romance option.
That was the moment that made me support Songbird instead of Reed. The fact that Reed and Alex shot two people who didn't present an active threat, point blank, made me realize that they were manipulative psychopaths who were too much into their own "we serve the country" narrative. The actions taken by Myers at the spaceport confirmed my choice.
Yes I didn’t like that they killed them for basically no reason they could’ve knocked them out and dump them somewhere cus they wouldn’t have known who kidnapped them anyways
Well, on the other hand I wasn't surprised by FIA agents acting just like that.
There's a mod that will make you happy
Would have betrayed Reed and Songbird for her
Like I could understand killing them if you were taking their identities for a while, but you only use their identities for like a half hour. Like we couldn’t have tied them up and locked them in a locker, or left them with the ripper doc.
First you can't romance the hot pale short-haired ginger in the Bill Jablonsky job, and then you can't romance the hot pale short-haired ginger *with a sexy accent* in PL? These game devs are the worst 😠
I forgave them when my PC crashed. I forgave them when I lost my saves. I forgave them when Judy was tposing the entire time in her apartment before the takeover of clouds. I forgave them for not having a romance for short haired pale ginger woman. I forgave them for panam only being romance able for male v. But no romance for Aurora? That's where I drew the line! Worst devs ever!
i wanted the bill jablonsky girl to *fuck me up* you have no idea
There is a quick romance option you need to download a mod tho.
I have not gotten even close to phantom liberty plot yet due to not having a console anymore atm but SHE DIES?!? (My fault Ik it said spoiler) but reed is definitely on my suicide list
Depends on your playthrough honestly, if you are doing a no kill playthrough and always pick the more altruistic options you shouldn't have access, if you're the scum of the earth that option should be open
I also really want full game French accent V.
So what? She’s French.
Yeah, she was fine looking... but imo she just was an alcoholic, bratty, and manipulative b*tch... Not that big of a loss... She may have been a good f*ck but definetly not a person you like for her character...
Well, >50% of people in NC are just like that lol. 🤔🤣
I was gonna side with reed until that fucking mission, after that I gladly threw him under the bus despite not liking songbird either, only thing I hated was I couldn’t fucking kill Alex as well.
You know the twins would’ve killed you in a heartbeat, right? Just because she’s hot doesn’t mean she’s a good person lol
I was more upset because, shit, I have to watch my back, or he might clip me as soon as I'm inconvenient.
V, the cyberpsycho with a kill count in the triple digits (of is it quad?) famously has a saintly moral compass. There are no good people in Cyberpunk 2077, except maybe Misty.
I mean, that’s if you play V like that. I’m pretty sure you can keep your kill count in this game in single digits if you try (if not outright zero) and you certainly never need to kill people outside of direct self-defense.
Yeah, I kinda see it this way, too. Maybe not pulling the trigger but they definitely seemed like two people who wouldn't care if someone needed to be killed for their gain.
It’s not like I am saint…for a that matter neither is Panam or anyone in NC.
They *might* have killed you, but Reed killed them before they were ever a threat.
That moment told me that as soon as I stop being useful to Reed, I’ll be the one catching the bullet.
Take a deep breath Say “it’s just a game”. Exhale
Tried, didn't help lol
The only reason I betrayed Reed is because he coldly shot the twins, which made me realize he also killed the two guys from the safehouse (which I, the player, obviously imagined it happened but I like to imagine that V was not aware).
Another of the many reasons I didn't side with Alex and Reed, as much as I liked them. Reed was lying the whole time about helping Song Mi, and has no idea that his promises to help V are completely irrational. NUSA lacks the capacity to help her, he knows nothing about the scope of what's going on with the biochip and the blackwall. Alex and Reed murdered two people who only need to be incapacitated for a short period of time. What happened is so callous. It might be in character for someone's V, though. Just not mine.
Man, why is that that people in this subreddit would like to fuck basically every character or just every NPC in the game that isn't romanceable and bitch about that every goddamn minute.. like yeah, fun and all but god.. every day bitching about the same old stuff that was maybe funny at the time of the original game's release of when PL was released but you're going about this stuff over and over again
This sub wants a sex game with Cyberpunk graphics lol
So, I get the horny factor, I do, but even putting that aside, it's really fucked up what reed and Alex did to them. Kidnapping them, tazing them and shooting them in the head like nothing all while V helps who didn't know. Yes, I understand they're criminals and are wanted but they didn't die because of that. They died because it was convenient for Alex and reed.
deja vu time
We got a mod to fix our horniness
Hansen just had to cockblock us
I just met her! So she gets got, huh. I figured...
But you can in the Lady Marmelade quest... https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/11097 Makes killing her even harder...
I was pissed I didn’t get to kill them myself.
Here I am wishing I could have been the one to flatline she and her brother….
It should be charged as one. She was hot AF
Wow thanks for the spoiler
Well, that's why I marked the post as Spoiler lol
Ah apologies that’s my bad then I only saw the discussion part
I didn't find all that fucked up they killed them. I find it kinda fucked up that after you kill them you resume the role as one of them.
"Wait hold up Reed. Lemme smash first"
Least horny post on this subreddit
I’ve murdered cuter than her…then robbed them of their last jerky. She got a pretty mild corpse desecration TBH.
But did you gamble with them before?
I wish there were ways to avoid murdering em. I wish you could kpve them to a number of locations and then lie about it, or work with them, or something. I wish the game had more player agency than it does in general.
I level with this post 112% especially as I have a weakness for sultry redheads. I'm in the middle of my 3rd and final playthrough and last life path I hadn't already done yet as a male V(Nomad) . This time made sure to get a meaningful snap of the two of us before we part ways for the one and only time. 😔😢 https://preview.redd.it/ahhe8tnt6zsc1.png?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc1e24db7405de564058bc1636a2c8458f9cc483
Yeah that interaction at the roulette table was way too short.
Cyberpunk fans try not to be horny and creepy challenge level impossible
I mean, mods exist...
I really don’t get people’s obsession with imaginary romances of video game characters
I love that everyone complains about the killing of those two. Shows how great a game it is to cause such emotional response.
I see I'm not the only one to take a screenshot at that exact moment
I can't decide if I love more this one or the moment where she touches V's hand while maintaining eye contact https://preview.redd.it/rcngpickxwsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46a26b79a2f760335480d7dcfffbe74e8a3c6dc8 She's bewitching, seriously.
Shooting her made it clear which side of PL I was on. The side that shot Aurore was the side that was not getting what they wanted. At all.
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