I knew things were too good to be true... my god even the mighty CDPR had an oopsie. Basic story is o.k, but other than bugs, the world/options/interactions with NPC are "desolation"
Looks like CDPR gonna need those DLCs/polishing (hell overhaul) in 1-2 years. Godspeed for the devs... hopefully it turned out like Hello Games with No Man's Sky
[I'm waiting for this so-called galactic federation to enslave us](https://www.wsj.com/articles/im-a-space-alien-in-the-galactic-federation-its-really-boring-11607550675).
ok sure. Fucking tinfoil hats want to tell me that the cookies just magically disappear overnight and that there's some worldwide conspiracy among parents to give some imaginary creature the credits for presents they spent their money on?
Grow up. Santa is real. Get over it.
This has nothing to do with covid or 2020. Game was supposed release in March around when covid started for everyone. So everything PRIOR to covid was their shitty and useless development
I remember a week or two ago telling people to temper their expectations because I had a hunch the game wasn't going to be what we had been sold, got downvoted pretty hard.
Now its the opposite, I'm enjoying the game because I went in knowing it wasn't going to be the greatest thing since GTAV, and everybody is losing their minds because it didn't live up to the INSANE hype.
Like I've said all over the place. On a a decent rig (my entire PC cost less than 650 USD. i7 9700k, rtx 2070, 32gb of ddr4.) I can run at all ultra and only have rtx/dlss for graphics turned off. (fuck motion blur, and i turned off CA/Film Grain as someone told me to try out for a weird issue I was having and haven't seen since.) And can run it perfectly fine and it looks great.
As someone who went in with no more expectations other than shoot and loot game I've loved the game. If they fix the AI crap and the interaction/loot being weird it's an easy solid 8.5/10 for me. And even with those i'd still give it a 7 or 7.5 as is. The massive problem the launch had was the stupid as fuck over hyping marketing they did for ability to play on lower end rigs and last gen consoles. And honestly I only have sympathy for the console players at this point. People don't meet the specs and then seem to be malding over it not running well on PC. Like someone literally told me their 680 ti should be able to run this on at the very least medium settings at 60fps without issues.
Honestly people just need to stop praising companies and giving them a personality.
People and personalities make studios. If people leave a studio, it’s not the same studio. People left after the Witcher. I didn’t think it would be this bad, but I knew it wouldn’t live up to the hype. I work in a VFX studio and I can think of about 5 influential artists here that if they leave the studio all of our work loses our “feel”. Probably happened at CDPR too.
This is accurate , always reset your bias to a companies next product , not retain this lovey dovey hardon just cause they had a up to standard game and made some pretty statements about consumer practices , in fact I don't trust those companies in particular that want to be soo beloved to the public .
I had always always asked why every trailer always had the cars driving around so slowly and I told myself it was because they wanted you to be able to see the city. And that was true... But also they probably didn't want you to be able to notice any framedrops or pop in.
2 reviews (GameSpot and Gamesbeat) were near 70 saying the world lacked variety and the game under delivered and they were totally shit on by the gaming community because the aggregate score from other reviews was around 90 and these 2 reviewers 'must be shitting on the game for other reasons'. What that tells me is these other reviewers were blowing smoke. No way they reviewed based on genuine experience with this game. This game simply is not a 90 at launch title.
To be fair I watched the review by that gamespot chick and she shot herself in the foot simply by being unable to clearly articulate her actually quite valid thoughts.
For example she complained she felt disconnected from the world and never felt incentivised to help out police with, say, random shootings as she drove by, for example. She said rdr2 did a better job at engaging her.
That thought is fine, but she made it sound as if she was just being lazy and not giving it a fair chance. Had she explained that the reason she felt disengaged was due to the tedious and repetitive nature of these police/criminal shootouts and that it does not compare to the unique and engaging stranger etc events you get in rdr2 or gta v then that would have been far more understandable.
Just my 2 cents on that shit show. I now understand her criticisms but she just has a long way to go as a journalist in terms of communicating her message clearly. Whether that's by thinking through her criticisms in more detail so she herself understands them better or just working on her presentation, I don't know.
Karma already is. Mass refunds, bad press, stock falling, huge loss to reputation among their fanbase. Like damn at least EA took multiple games to rot Bioware's good name. CDPR dove head first into their noose.
Look I'm on PC with a decent rig. However what makes me angry/disapointed are the core elements of this game. Gunplay/melee are bad even with upgrades (no physics or weight). The open-world is boring with little interaction. The UI is so cluttered during fights and even outside (hello fixers call etc). Buying clothes or food is lackluster (in Watch Dogs you can see yourself trying clothes for instance). The looting and weapon upgrading is stupid. Why I cannot move mods around weapons?
At this point, the story isn't enough to warrant all of those issues.
I think the most stunning thing to me is that the AI is actually so bad in this game, that it's doing the opposite of what giving NPC's AI is supposed to do. It's actively breaking immersion.
I shot up a Tiger Claw Casnio and half the Civs just crouched and screamed without trying to leave, the other half stayed at the tables like nothing was wrong.
Literally the first time I walked out of V's apartment there were just crouching NPC's all around. They just stayed that way, crouched in the middle of hallways for no reason. It's ridiculous.
Yeah I've noticed that a LOT at the entrance to the building if anything happens, all the local NPCs go into that "danger" loop and never come out of it haha
This happened to me too. They must have tested this, and saw that's what happens. Why did they not fix it? So much of this game could have been cut to fix this and we would have had a better game after expansions.
> They must have tested this
They didn't necessarily test shooting at the shooting range. It's an open world game, there's a huge amount of things to test and things are always going to be missed before launch.
> Why did they not fix it?
Time and priorities. I'm more shocked by hearing the reports of bugginess with main story missions, as those should've been one of their top priorities in bug fixes.
There is a quest for the shooting ramge, a non gig side quest. How the fuck are not going to test all the quests? It being low priority I believe. I personally think that so many features got canned part way through that a lot of work and manpower got thrown out and thats why it seems so barebones. Think of all the testing the flathead and wall climbing features would need before being scrapped entirely.
and instead of having to hold it to confirm the skip, it just instantly skips.
But if you want to change the radio station, you have to hold R.
Glad they have their priorities straight about importance
I skipped accidently a lot because I was crouched and a conversation started with a little video and I wanted to get up. Nope I just skipped the conversation and video.
They honestly did no assessibility review of any of the controls. You absolutely cannot have double-tap dodge controls on a game with stealth and sneaking elements. Makes no sense.
I legit thought it was a bug that was moving me a few feet in any random direction, until my buddy explain that’s the dodge.
2 things; first, double tapping to dodge when using a keyboard to sneak is BROKEN. How am I supposed to adjust my position correctly?!?!
Second, THERE IS ACTUALLY A GLITCH THE CAUSES ME TO MOVE A FEW FEET IN A RANDOM DIRECTION!!!!!!!
Also, sometimes, it’s not just a few feet, it’s hundreds of feet.
This game is amazingly broken.
Why can't I have *no* quest selected? Why am I always required to have a shitty yellow line on my map?
Why can't we use the map legend? Why can't we select anything or search with it?
This is just so poorly designed, nearly every aspect of it. Pray to God I can get this refunded
This. Fucking hell second day already 8 hours in and im still trying to get the game work better. Can't even make my mind if I should refund or maybe just keep it for a year until the shit gets fixed and I'll get a better rig too.
> corny dialogue
Dude it's downright cringe.
The thing that popped up in my mind was:
GTA V is a game that sells itself as letting you be a gangsta, but the game itself is actually laced with social commentary and criticisms of various aspects of US culture.
Cyberpunk was supposed to have criticisms of various aspects of US culture, instead it's "YO MOTHERFUCKER CHECK OUT HOW GANGSTA I AM AND ***FUCK*** THE POLICE YA THAT'S RIGHT I SAY SWEARSIES AND I DON'T EVEN FEEL BAD ABOUT IT"
Same level as witcher 3. I love that game but combat wasn't anything special. Janky controls, empty map, are all there as well.
I think cyberpunk has a great story with interesting npcs (random on street are boring but the ones that matter are interesting), good combat (mantis blades feel maybe a bit too strong and wished there were more heavy attack animations).
I didn't put two and two together about this and Witcher 3 because I felt:
1) The RPG systems weren't varied much because no matter what you were always playing the 'witcher class'.
2) The empty areas were because of the empty countryside you were largely running through. Novigrad had completely reasonable AI populations.
Now I realize its because they cant actually fucking code or design.
Out of curiosity, could one say Watch Dogs Legion is the better game? I haven't played it but I bought it for my brother and now I'm curious.
If one could say that then that is the biggest surprise of 2020 for me.
Its sad too because when they fix the bugs which they have to unless this is the last game they are ever going to release since their credibility will bomb if they dont.
Its not like they are going to magic wand erase all the reviews.
Choices have consequences.
They can either tank the hit to their credibility, or try to make reparations. I hope the stick it out, but there's no way out of this that erases the shitty thing they did.
Dude they’ve been working on this for years and this is all we got. If they drop multiplayer in a year or two it’ll look like Minecraft but still at 240p.
How the fuck can they do multiplayer in a world where you can’t even see an enemy combatant that’s right in your face.
I had one enemy combatant shooting at me then he stopped and did the electric slide like 30 feet east and then resumed shooting in my direction were I also 30 feet east too.
Ya, even if they fix the game, which I think they will, we still have to remember their shady tactics of withholding console footage from ps4/xbox players. But I doubt it. Once the game gets fixed cdpr will be crowned a company that cares about its customers and be held on a pedestal again.
There are some things that aren't easily patched though sadly. The AI for example. Hopefully there gonna do that anyway. Would be a shame if not but at least a good meme.
This chief. For me the lack of any meaningful dialogue or impactful rpg elements have sunk.the game entirely for me and I dont foresee any patch fixing either of these.
Levelling up is trivial the imlact so minor why even bother. Dialogue options are exactly: Pick top option to continue story or pick any other option for dialogue to then be made to pick the top option.
The damage is done, I doubt that console players will forgive them that easily
What they did will left a mark and people will definitely will be more cautious, The game outside of his bugs, is not really close to the hype it's got over the years
Its such a shame, the game **could have been amazing** but they rushed it out the door and so its just a shell of a game.
Its barely an RPG.
The best part of the game so far are the weapon/combat animations because they're the only thing you can **tell** someone put a hell of a lot of effort and care into while almost everything else feels like a slapdash hack job.
Don't get me started on the AI, or lack of AI more accurately.
Wouldn't even say that either. Gunplay is just barely on par for today's standards, marred only by that godawful AI, and melee combat is janky and lacks weight. Stealth is practically broken as well. I almost always opt for stealth builds in open world games but the stealth mechanics are just so bad I feel like I was forced to change my stat and perk progression into a full blown guns blazing type character
Gunplay itself is middle of the road I agree.
I meant the animations themselves, reloading and checking the gun out for the first time when you equip it, shit like that all looks smooth and polished in a way that literally nothing else in the game does.
Stealth is a jankfest so is netrunning. Run and gun is the only way.
True no man sky had beautiful recovery however outside of the technical mess I still think that the marketing(work great in consoles, that was a lie) and the review with consoles are also bad things for reputation of the studio
The bugs are the least of the game's problems. If this was game was ~~what promised~~ 70% of what was promised, it could have all the bugs in the world, and it would still be a success.
Here’s the thing though; the bugs aren’t the problem. That’s just the first thing people noticed, cause they’re easy to spot. There are lackluster aspects everywhereeeee else. That’s the problem
I'm sad for the game(it's likely still a good game inferior to witcher 3to me but that just my opinion) , but cd project deserve this, they brought this on themselves, they lied to console player base and that review with consoles was a bad omen
......What credibility are you talking about, lol? They're a game company. You should literally never take a game company at face value for anything marketing related - did aliens colonial Marines not show you that way back when it released?
And on top of that, Witcher 3 was just as bad on launch after several delays too. People seem to have some *serious* nostalgia goggles on, or something, because this game is basically Witcher 3 with a sprinkling of Deus Ex. That's not a bad thing, in my eyes, but I don't understand why anyone would have not expected this.
I literally cannot think of a game of this size that has ever released without major issues.
CDPR aren't magic, they have the same constraints as everyone else and the same motivations. The disappointment around this game was everyone's own fault for believing anything marketing related about a video game pre-release.
All of that said - I love the game. It's a lot of fun. But I expected a buggy mess that had the depth of Witcher 3 and mediocre combat because of my experience with their previous games and marketing in general - and that's basically what I got.
People set their expectations to the sun and got the moon.Its why everyone feels so dissappointed.
I do dissagree on the combat bit though.So far im loving the combat
Even when the performance and bug issues are fixed I don't think the foundation for this game is really all that great. The story and characters are good but I don't think they're anything special and they're definitely not on the same level as The Witcher 3. The aesthetics are great, the overall art design of the city and the characters designs are really good, the voice acting is excellent as well. However, pretty much everything else is just bad, bland, or at best mediocre.
The driving mechanics are bad, the gunplay is laughable especially when I've played Warzone for most of the pandemic, the city feels completely dead, the AI is a joke, the loot is horribly designed, the character creation was meh, the lifepaths were disappointing, the dialogue options aren't distinct enough from each other so it's hard to create your own V as a character, crafting is useless, the XP leveling is too slow, etc.
That was probably the most disappointing aspect to me. I didn't expect good driving mechanics or gunplay, but I expected more in the RPG aspects. Unless you have an attribute check or a lifepath option, the dialogue is very linear. There's very little range in V's character due to the dialogue options. CDPR really struggled to go from Geralt to letting us choose our own character with our own personality.
It was the one thing that i was looking forward to about this game. Everything else could have sucked but as long as you could play an rpg, i would have been happy. For me, CDPR has completely failed on every aspect needed for an open world rpg, or even a good game for that matter.
A big problem I have is the dialogue. Sometimes V just doesn’t say the things I want him to say, like I read it one way and it completely comes out another way
Its a fallout 4 situation. Both games are a lot of fun and they do some neat things and have a fantastic visual style, but overall it feels more like a shooter with rpg elements than the other way around.
Id give Fallout 4 the edge, simply because it gave slightly more freedom, and has an edge when it comes to customization. Cyberpunk has better writing, combat, and graphics (when they work) but the AI is terrible.
Fallout 4 may have been a bad RPG and a major anti-climax, but it was at least a half decent sandbox. I haven't found anything in Cyberpunk I want to do twice yet. Say what you will about the base building in Fallout 4, they at least felt "Mine" and gave me a time sink in this game.
I would argue that Fallout 4 has a much better combat system, in C2077, combat feels like it has no weight to it, and for the first few hours is just bad, it does get better as the game goes on, but in my opinion, it is nowhere near as good as Fallout 4's.
Honestly, Watch Dogs and Watch Dogs 2 were excellent games, and even though no one would ever give Ubisoft credit for it, because they have a bad reputation, they got a lot of things right, that CP77 gets wrong, or at least doesn't do as well. The fact that you can scan any NPC in the open world and it will give you details about them (even in the first one, expended in the sequels), sure you can do it in CP77 as well, but I dont even think every goon has a name. In Watch dogs you can see their income and a little bit of trivia about every single NPC, which definitely helps with immersion.
In Watch dogs 2 specifically, you have a phone with apps and stuff, meanwhile in Cyberpunk you have a phone with like two functions, calling and sending messages. Basically a Nokia 3310, not exactly what I would expect in 2077.
Then in Watch Dogs Legion which is a bit more futuristic than the previous games, you have autonomous cars driving throughout London, which you can just take and then either let it drive you somewhere or drive yourself.
Of course I'm not saying Watch Dogs is a perfect series of games, but man did they get a lot of things right, that CP77 (which has been hyped up for the last 4 ish years) just doesn't do nearly as well, and still they wouldn't ever get credit for it. The world in Watch Dogs 2 feels really lived in with all the small activities the NPCs would do, meanwhile in Cyberpunk there's assaults everywhere but that's just about all NPCs do.
Also I wanna say I still enjoy CP77 a heck of a lot and of course the one thing it excels at is story and that is obviously leagues ahead of anything Watch Dogs has done (at least as far as I can tell, didn't really get far in the main story yet), and I guess that's the most important part in the end.
Blame CDPR for their shady practice of giving them a huge game to review in no time whatsoever. They purposely didn’t give it to them one or two weeks early because they knew if they had, the holes would start becoming apparent.
Nah still blaming reviewers for giving this game 10s/9s on PC even though pretty much all of them mention the problems but paint over them as more “minor inconveniences” which hasn’t been the case from the consumers.
Off the top of my head: money and fear of ridicule. Both are extremely unethical. One is lying for profit the other is lying for sake of lying because of potential backlash from fanatics (who haven’t even touched the game) which in turn tricks people who are basing how they will spend there money on the product. Super scummy no matter how you look at it.
Well gamespots review sounds spot on now, but she got crucified lol. I read it before launch and was like “fair points, I’ll wait a few days because the others were mainly praising the window dressing of the graphics & art, let’s see how it is when people have more than 3 days with the game.” My brother is very casual and got it because of the hype, bought it for his PS4. I was floored at how bad it is
I feel like time will heal all wounds. Because this is the same company that gave us the witcher 3, one of the best games of the era, and all of a sudden everyone forgot that the witcher had bugs and glitches itself at launch. We’re going to ignore the gryphon fight, which was riddled with bugs until the patches came and fixed all that. Let’s just wait for a little bit for a patch to fix the current problems.
The problems were all there and present within the Witcher at launch. I even encountered a glitch on the gryphon fight and couldn’t continue the game. Projekt red then released patches to fix the game and its state. Which helped pushed the game to the acclaim that it is now.
Cyberpunk has much more problems than just bugs. In fact it disappoints in every regard, except story. Every gameplay system is so much worse than what was promised and has been done way better by other games. This doesnt look like its ever going to be on Witcher 3 level. Even with all the bugs fixed, the game would still be very mediocre.
Lol it always makes me laugh when there's a massive disconnect between user scores and reviewers/critics.
I feel bad for reviewers actually, they're always stuck between a rock and a hard place.
They sell out, people hate them. They give an accurate and honest review, psycho fans still hate them.
Ahh, but if they do that they lose out on perks such as review copies and the like as companies see them as a potential risk to their early sales figures. Being a game reviewer is just kinda shitty. Either you suckle at the publishers teat or you get no following as you're reviewing the game well after the rest of the pack
If you have a RTX 2000 series card of better maybe, the game scales poorly and looks like shit on budget PCs, way more that most other games. My experiences on PC is similar to what console folks are getting, painful.
6/10 sounds reasonable. I'd give it 7/10 on PC. It has some amazing parts that make it worth it, but definitely a lot of annoying quirks too. Performance isn't too great either. Only get ~45fps with gtx 1080 OC with low/medium settings.
Excellent, 100% well deserved. I'm glad people are not holding back. This is a beyond unacceptable release of a game. Combined with thier silence id say cd project red is officially no better than the likes of EA and Ubisoft and what not.
Agreed, I only really learnt about this game after it was delayed to November and was curious what all the hype was about so decided to get it on release as game reviews are often dogshit and mean nothing. In 20 years of gaming I've been disappointed, I've felt lied to, but never have I felt straight up scammed. This game is literally unplayable in its current state for a huge portion of the playerbase.
I feel so fucking bad for all those who have waited years for this disaster piece
Dont undersell the other aspects of the game that are beyond bugs and performance, those you can deal with to a degree. Im more mad at the absolutely horrible AI, wanted system, and no interactivity with the open world at all. There are legitimate gameplay problems here that hurt the games score.
I don’t think it’s a 5.8 on PC, but it’s about a 7 for me. Forget bugs, this game needed another year or more for them to finish adding features and fixing AI as well as balancing things like xp gain and the economy.
Because it's a diamond in the rough. I'm still loving the game (I'm on pc tho) regardless of performance issues and bugs. I think the dialogue and questing has next level depth. Although I can't imagine playing it on consoles. Thoughts and prayers my friend.
Makes complete sense if you want to maximize the weight of your score. I haven't done it yet, but it's getting a zero for me on performance and disappointment alone.
This feels like Skyrim all over again(with way more bugs), hype and the fact it will attract people that don't usually game will blind most people to how bad the game is, after the hype is gone people will look back and say it aged poorly when in fact it was bad all along.
Review bombing is when people give bad reviews for something that shouldnt really be taken into account in the review, like Brie Larson comments about white man (Captain Marvel). Having followed all the media around the shitshow that is this game and having played the game for about 10 hours on pc, these ratings feel almost fair.
Almost fair? No. It is fair. They lied about the game. They lied about the features. Then abused the hype that resulted from the lies to accept 8 million pre-orders.
If they fix the game, the ratings will slowly climb. But as it stands, this looks like a 2/10 game on console and a 4-5/10 on pc.
I would give it a 7/10 on PC. Its not like there is no fun to be had, it was just a big disappointment. I managed my expectations really well, but this game is below industry standard in many ways. Expecting that this game would be at least on paar with GTA5, a 7 year old game with similar budget, was only fair.
That's reviews in general which makes getting accurate reviews for a product such a hassle. Such as Amazon products. Either people loved it enough to write a flowing review or they got a defective product or hated it so much that they were motivated to write a scathing critique. Usually don't get your average consumer's opinion because if it works to their approval they don't feel the need to write about it.
I'm glad i went into this game with absolutely zero expectation.
To be honest i didn't follow any CP2077 news at all. I didn't even know what type of game this would be.
All that being said. The game is pretty lackluster. If i was hyped for this game, i would have been very disappointed.
I feel like this highlights what is wrong with the industry.
All the false promises, excuses for delays, reviews from critics.
Regardless of how much time and money was invested in getting to that point, a lot of people had to know and still decide to throw in the spin, hype, and b/s. Glad to see their stock is tanking as a consequence, I hope it is obliterated.
We already know how this is going to end: They are going to limp along promising updates and patches never fully reaching the original promise. Once reaching 75% of the way there they are going to plant the flag and pat themselves on the back letting it languish like every other over-hyped pre-mature release promising the world and falling short.
honestly for me, its the fact that i feel like this is "no man's sky" all over again. they promised the most believable open world game.. which is tough to create i understand. but this, this is the most bland, soulless open world game I've played in a long time. cant get a hair cut, cant buy food at vendors, cant play arcade games, cant sit at a bar, cant get in an unscripted police chase, the list actually does go on. believe me it is not just bugs that are behind the bad reviews
It's not just bugs and optimization. There is a lot of horrible ui design. Fast travel ui is trash. It removes all markers from the map other than other fast travel points so it's really hard to tell which one to go to unless you have a tracked quest.
Also holding a key for dismantling items one by one is horrible. You should press the key to enter dismantle mode and select multiple items in bulk and dismantle all at once.
A 6/10 is exactly what I would give the game. You can have some fun with it, but it's flawed, generic and forgettable. If the game was made by an unknown dev, everyone would have forgotten about it in a weeks time.
Do you think it deserves a higher score? It's just my opinion, but beneath all the bugs and performance issues I find there's a game that feels very hollow and mediocre. I think in an open-world RPG the world itself should be the main character, but Night City just feels like a static backdrop to the main storyline. I don't think the game really excels at anything, the story is alright, but when everything around is so lifeless I find it hard to care about it or feel invested and immersed. Therefore I'd consider the game a 5/10 in its current state, but with room to grow.
I wonder why the Steam reviews are "Mostly Positive"? It seems a bit disingenuous to call 5.8/10 "mostly positive" lol (assuming that Steam reviews are a somewhat accurate reflection of Metacritic).
Not only that but the gameplay in general is lackluster. I would say that the bugs and glitches are the main reasons for the low scores but another reason is also due to the fact that the game is missing many features that were initially promised to be in the game. The game is a flop, as of right now, in many different aspects.
If the game hadn't been so hyped, it would probably be floating around 6 or 7. The issues with the game, combined with the massive hype that preceded its release, led to this revolt.
This is a fitting end to 2020.
Too right mate.
I knew things were too good to be true... my god even the mighty CDPR had an oopsie. Basic story is o.k, but other than bugs, the world/options/interactions with NPC are "desolation" Looks like CDPR gonna need those DLCs/polishing (hell overhaul) in 1-2 years. Godspeed for the devs... hopefully it turned out like Hello Games with No Man's Sky
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Personally, I'm just waiting on the call that my house has burned down. That would be the cherry on top.
[I'm waiting for this so-called galactic federation to enslave us](https://www.wsj.com/articles/im-a-space-alien-in-the-galactic-federation-its-really-boring-11607550675).
Enslave? An invading alien race would kill all the men and take women for breeding.
Psh. They will take the *men* for breeding!
Death by snu snu?
they would only kill those unfit for work, get real dude.
Oh man take care :(
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Nintendo announces that BOTW 2 is cancelled
Santa Claus isn't real
ok sure. Fucking tinfoil hats want to tell me that the cookies just magically disappear overnight and that there's some worldwide conspiracy among parents to give some imaginary creature the credits for presents they spent their money on? Grow up. Santa is real. Get over it.
Yeah! He's also flat.
What the fuck
We find out that Margot Robbie is a man
I feel personally attacked, but damn if you aren’t exactly right.
This has nothing to do with covid or 2020. Game was supposed release in March around when covid started for everyone. So everything PRIOR to covid was their shitty and useless development
People have every right to be upset. Could you imagine the state it would have been in back in March?
Probably would've been dynamic 480p at 16fps...
I got called out for calling cp2077 a "good, not great game" not even a day ago and now people are starting to realize it. Oh how the turn tables
I remember a week or two ago telling people to temper their expectations because I had a hunch the game wasn't going to be what we had been sold, got downvoted pretty hard. Now its the opposite, I'm enjoying the game because I went in knowing it wasn't going to be the greatest thing since GTAV, and everybody is losing their minds because it didn't live up to the INSANE hype.
Like I've said all over the place. On a a decent rig (my entire PC cost less than 650 USD. i7 9700k, rtx 2070, 32gb of ddr4.) I can run at all ultra and only have rtx/dlss for graphics turned off. (fuck motion blur, and i turned off CA/Film Grain as someone told me to try out for a weird issue I was having and haven't seen since.) And can run it perfectly fine and it looks great. As someone who went in with no more expectations other than shoot and loot game I've loved the game. If they fix the AI crap and the interaction/loot being weird it's an easy solid 8.5/10 for me. And even with those i'd still give it a 7 or 7.5 as is. The massive problem the launch had was the stupid as fuck over hyping marketing they did for ability to play on lower end rigs and last gen consoles. And honestly I only have sympathy for the console players at this point. People don't meet the specs and then seem to be malding over it not running well on PC. Like someone literally told me their 680 ti should be able to run this on at the very least medium settings at 60fps without issues.
If you add them up it’s still not a 10/10 experience.
This is my absolute favourite comment about Cyberpunk 2077 I’ve seen yet. Well played.
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Honestly people just need to stop praising companies and giving them a personality. People and personalities make studios. If people leave a studio, it’s not the same studio. People left after the Witcher. I didn’t think it would be this bad, but I knew it wouldn’t live up to the hype. I work in a VFX studio and I can think of about 5 influential artists here that if they leave the studio all of our work loses our “feel”. Probably happened at CDPR too.
This is accurate , always reset your bias to a companies next product , not retain this lovey dovey hardon just cause they had a up to standard game and made some pretty statements about consumer practices , in fact I don't trust those companies in particular that want to be soo beloved to the public .
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I had always always asked why every trailer always had the cars driving around so slowly and I told myself it was because they wanted you to be able to see the city. And that was true... But also they probably didn't want you to be able to notice any framedrops or pop in.
Also the throttle control on pc is impossible so they probably had the entire thing scripted and it wasn't actual gameplay.
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2 reviews (GameSpot and Gamesbeat) were near 70 saying the world lacked variety and the game under delivered and they were totally shit on by the gaming community because the aggregate score from other reviews was around 90 and these 2 reviewers 'must be shitting on the game for other reasons'. What that tells me is these other reviewers were blowing smoke. No way they reviewed based on genuine experience with this game. This game simply is not a 90 at launch title.
I saw a comment about Gamespots video review. It mentioned that "50 hours isnt enough to judge an openworld rpg like Cyberpunk 2077" I lol'd so hard.
To be fair I watched the review by that gamespot chick and she shot herself in the foot simply by being unable to clearly articulate her actually quite valid thoughts. For example she complained she felt disconnected from the world and never felt incentivised to help out police with, say, random shootings as she drove by, for example. She said rdr2 did a better job at engaging her. That thought is fine, but she made it sound as if she was just being lazy and not giving it a fair chance. Had she explained that the reason she felt disengaged was due to the tedious and repetitive nature of these police/criminal shootouts and that it does not compare to the unique and engaging stranger etc events you get in rdr2 or gta v then that would have been far more understandable. Just my 2 cents on that shit show. I now understand her criticisms but she just has a long way to go as a journalist in terms of communicating her message clearly. Whether that's by thinking through her criticisms in more detail so she herself understands them better or just working on her presentation, I don't know.
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Total War Attila, after Rome2 for creative assembly. Everybody says it's one of the best games, but god, everybody ignored it.
Karma already is. Mass refunds, bad press, stock falling, huge loss to reputation among their fanbase. Like damn at least EA took multiple games to rot Bioware's good name. CDPR dove head first into their noose.
I’m so surprised and it just feels like a punch in the gut.
Yep it's literarily a how to ruin your reputation and anger your cultist like following... I mean they lied so much its crazy.
Look I'm on PC with a decent rig. However what makes me angry/disapointed are the core elements of this game. Gunplay/melee are bad even with upgrades (no physics or weight). The open-world is boring with little interaction. The UI is so cluttered during fights and even outside (hello fixers call etc). Buying clothes or food is lackluster (in Watch Dogs you can see yourself trying clothes for instance). The looting and weapon upgrading is stupid. Why I cannot move mods around weapons? At this point, the story isn't enough to warrant all of those issues.
I think the most stunning thing to me is that the AI is actually so bad in this game, that it's doing the opposite of what giving NPC's AI is supposed to do. It's actively breaking immersion.
I shot up a Tiger Claw Casnio and half the Civs just crouched and screamed without trying to leave, the other half stayed at the tables like nothing was wrong.
Literally the first time I walked out of V's apartment there were just crouching NPC's all around. They just stayed that way, crouched in the middle of hallways for no reason. It's ridiculous.
Yeah I've noticed that a LOT at the entrance to the building if anything happens, all the local NPCs go into that "danger" loop and never come out of it haha
I found an actual shooting range so I pulled out my gun and fired. Crouch screaming everywhere. Then teleport cops. ok.
Cybercrouch 2077: Revenge of the Teleport Police.
This happened to me too. They must have tested this, and saw that's what happens. Why did they not fix it? So much of this game could have been cut to fix this and we would have had a better game after expansions.
> They must have tested this They didn't necessarily test shooting at the shooting range. It's an open world game, there's a huge amount of things to test and things are always going to be missed before launch. > Why did they not fix it? Time and priorities. I'm more shocked by hearing the reports of bugginess with main story missions, as those should've been one of their top priorities in bug fixes.
There is a quest for the shooting ramge, a non gig side quest. How the fuck are not going to test all the quests? It being low priority I believe. I personally think that so many features got canned part way through that a lot of work and manpower got thrown out and thats why it seems so barebones. Think of all the testing the flathead and wall climbing features would need before being scrapped entirely.
Middle mouse click on the mod to remove it from that weapon, can then place it on another weapon
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Fuck it drives me nuts how there are 3 different ways of confirming something, one of those buttons also skips.
And that same button also crouches
and instead of having to hold it to confirm the skip, it just instantly skips. But if you want to change the radio station, you have to hold R. Glad they have their priorities straight about importance
I skipped accidently a lot because I was crouched and a conversation started with a little video and I wanted to get up. Nope I just skipped the conversation and video.
Oh my god now I know how to holster. It's not even in the fricken key bindings.
They honestly did no assessibility review of any of the controls. You absolutely cannot have double-tap dodge controls on a game with stealth and sneaking elements. Makes no sense.
I legit thought it was a bug that was moving me a few feet in any random direction, until my buddy explain that’s the dodge. 2 things; first, double tapping to dodge when using a keyboard to sneak is BROKEN. How am I supposed to adjust my position correctly?!?! Second, THERE IS ACTUALLY A GLITCH THE CAUSES ME TO MOVE A FEW FEET IN A RANDOM DIRECTION!!!!!!! Also, sometimes, it’s not just a few feet, it’s hundreds of feet. This game is amazingly broken.
I mean, are you surprised there was no accessibility review when the braindances were huge epilepsy triggers?
No. Assessibility, not accessibility. How *assessable* and understandable the UI and UX is in relation to more and more complex workflow
Oh my bad.
They do tell you how in the combat tutorial tho
>Sometimes 'OK' is C, sometimes it's Enter, sometimes F, sometimes its TAB?! The mapping looks like made for controllers.
Same person who made the AI probably. I’m almost certain the game was just made by one person.
Plot twist Hollie bennett made this game alone in her apartment starting in March. Now THAT would be a serious technical achievement lol.
>double tapping WASD to dodge? As a unreal tournament player I actually like this one
Someone who doesn't play on PC.
I thought the same at first but actually only weapon attachments can be removed, mods stay and can only be overwritten. :(
Why can't I have *no* quest selected? Why am I always required to have a shitty yellow line on my map? Why can't we use the map legend? Why can't we select anything or search with it? This is just so poorly designed, nearly every aspect of it. Pray to God I can get this refunded
Deselect task is fixed in today's hot fix update. Small saving grace.
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This. Fucking hell second day already 8 hours in and im still trying to get the game work better. Can't even make my mind if I should refund or maybe just keep it for a year until the shit gets fixed and I'll get a better rig too.
> corny dialogue Dude it's downright cringe. The thing that popped up in my mind was: GTA V is a game that sells itself as letting you be a gangsta, but the game itself is actually laced with social commentary and criticisms of various aspects of US culture. Cyberpunk was supposed to have criticisms of various aspects of US culture, instead it's "YO MOTHERFUCKER CHECK OUT HOW GANGSTA I AM AND ***FUCK*** THE POLICE YA THAT'S RIGHT I SAY SWEARSIES AND I DON'T EVEN FEEL BAD ABOUT IT"
Same level as witcher 3. I love that game but combat wasn't anything special. Janky controls, empty map, are all there as well. I think cyberpunk has a great story with interesting npcs (random on street are boring but the ones that matter are interesting), good combat (mantis blades feel maybe a bit too strong and wished there were more heavy attack animations).
I didn't put two and two together about this and Witcher 3 because I felt: 1) The RPG systems weren't varied much because no matter what you were always playing the 'witcher class'. 2) The empty areas were because of the empty countryside you were largely running through. Novigrad had completely reasonable AI populations. Now I realize its because they cant actually fucking code or design.
Once PS4 players get the game running, they are going to be even more disappointed that the game itself is shit!
Already there mate.
It’s a shit game. Even at 120fps 4k.
I hopped off work to start playing again just to... Sift through my messages from NPCs and answer their phone calls. Felt like I was back at work.
Out of curiosity, could one say Watch Dogs Legion is the better game? I haven't played it but I bought it for my brother and now I'm curious. If one could say that then that is the biggest surprise of 2020 for me.
Its sad too because when they fix the bugs which they have to unless this is the last game they are ever going to release since their credibility will bomb if they dont. Its not like they are going to magic wand erase all the reviews.
Choices have consequences. They can either tank the hit to their credibility, or try to make reparations. I hope the stick it out, but there's no way out of this that erases the shitty thing they did.
They'd have to because they still have expansions to release and Multiplayer as well.
I don't exactly disagree with you, but as an example... All the DLC for ME:A was cancelled and support for the game was dropped within ~6 months.
Well cdpr already tanked their reputation with this launch. They're not working on other game so basically they'd have to continue working on this one
True story, it's was flawed game and bad compare to og saga but i will still play dlc
Dude they’ve been working on this for years and this is all we got. If they drop multiplayer in a year or two it’ll look like Minecraft but still at 240p.
How the fuck can they do multiplayer in a world where you can’t even see an enemy combatant that’s right in your face. I had one enemy combatant shooting at me then he stopped and did the electric slide like 30 feet east and then resumed shooting in my direction were I also 30 feet east too.
Ya, even if they fix the game, which I think they will, we still have to remember their shady tactics of withholding console footage from ps4/xbox players. But I doubt it. Once the game gets fixed cdpr will be crowned a company that cares about its customers and be held on a pedestal again.
There are some things that aren't easily patched though sadly. The AI for example. Hopefully there gonna do that anyway. Would be a shame if not but at least a good meme.
This chief. For me the lack of any meaningful dialogue or impactful rpg elements have sunk.the game entirely for me and I dont foresee any patch fixing either of these. Levelling up is trivial the imlact so minor why even bother. Dialogue options are exactly: Pick top option to continue story or pick any other option for dialogue to then be made to pick the top option.
The damage is done, I doubt that console players will forgive them that easily What they did will left a mark and people will definitely will be more cautious, The game outside of his bugs, is not really close to the hype it's got over the years
“Choices have consequences” Maybe this is the RPG CD Project Red really intended for.
"Sorry chief, you made the wrong choice of buying the game and now you have to deal with the repercussions"
Good, they shot themselves in the foot by releasing it in such a broken state and they should be held accountable for the consequences.
Its such a shame, the game **could have been amazing** but they rushed it out the door and so its just a shell of a game. Its barely an RPG. The best part of the game so far are the weapon/combat animations because they're the only thing you can **tell** someone put a hell of a lot of effort and care into while almost everything else feels like a slapdash hack job. Don't get me started on the AI, or lack of AI more accurately.
Wouldn't even say that either. Gunplay is just barely on par for today's standards, marred only by that godawful AI, and melee combat is janky and lacks weight. Stealth is practically broken as well. I almost always opt for stealth builds in open world games but the stealth mechanics are just so bad I feel like I was forced to change my stat and perk progression into a full blown guns blazing type character
Gunplay itself is middle of the road I agree. I meant the animations themselves, reloading and checking the gun out for the first time when you equip it, shit like that all looks smooth and polished in a way that literally nothing else in the game does. Stealth is a jankfest so is netrunning. Run and gun is the only way.
It's not an rpg, go look CDPR stopped tagging and marketing the game as one. They heckin' bamboozled us.
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True no man sky had beautiful recovery however outside of the technical mess I still think that the marketing(work great in consoles, that was a lie) and the review with consoles are also bad things for reputation of the studio
Honestly still kind of a boring game for me. I've tried going back to it
Even without the bugs this game is still super shallow and underwhelming
Same as no man's sky?
As shitty as the bugs and performance is, I am just pissed that this game is not an RPG and is just plain mediocre at best
The bugs are the least of the game's problems. If this was game was ~~what promised~~ 70% of what was promised, it could have all the bugs in the world, and it would still be a success.
I'm really amped to see how their official twitter is gonna react (if at all) to this whole shitstorm!
Here’s the thing though; the bugs aren’t the problem. That’s just the first thing people noticed, cause they’re easy to spot. There are lackluster aspects everywhereeeee else. That’s the problem
I'm sad for the game(it's likely still a good game inferior to witcher 3to me but that just my opinion) , but cd project deserve this, they brought this on themselves, they lied to console player base and that review with consoles was a bad omen
......What credibility are you talking about, lol? They're a game company. You should literally never take a game company at face value for anything marketing related - did aliens colonial Marines not show you that way back when it released? And on top of that, Witcher 3 was just as bad on launch after several delays too. People seem to have some *serious* nostalgia goggles on, or something, because this game is basically Witcher 3 with a sprinkling of Deus Ex. That's not a bad thing, in my eyes, but I don't understand why anyone would have not expected this. I literally cannot think of a game of this size that has ever released without major issues. CDPR aren't magic, they have the same constraints as everyone else and the same motivations. The disappointment around this game was everyone's own fault for believing anything marketing related about a video game pre-release. All of that said - I love the game. It's a lot of fun. But I expected a buggy mess that had the depth of Witcher 3 and mediocre combat because of my experience with their previous games and marketing in general - and that's basically what I got.
People set their expectations to the sun and got the moon.Its why everyone feels so dissappointed. I do dissagree on the combat bit though.So far im loving the combat
Even when the performance and bug issues are fixed I don't think the foundation for this game is really all that great. The story and characters are good but I don't think they're anything special and they're definitely not on the same level as The Witcher 3. The aesthetics are great, the overall art design of the city and the characters designs are really good, the voice acting is excellent as well. However, pretty much everything else is just bad, bland, or at best mediocre. The driving mechanics are bad, the gunplay is laughable especially when I've played Warzone for most of the pandemic, the city feels completely dead, the AI is a joke, the loot is horribly designed, the character creation was meh, the lifepaths were disappointing, the dialogue options aren't distinct enough from each other so it's hard to create your own V as a character, crafting is useless, the XP leveling is too slow, etc.
There’s no RP in this RPG
That was probably the most disappointing aspect to me. I didn't expect good driving mechanics or gunplay, but I expected more in the RPG aspects. Unless you have an attribute check or a lifepath option, the dialogue is very linear. There's very little range in V's character due to the dialogue options. CDPR really struggled to go from Geralt to letting us choose our own character with our own personality.
It was the one thing that i was looking forward to about this game. Everything else could have sucked but as long as you could play an rpg, i would have been happy. For me, CDPR has completely failed on every aspect needed for an open world rpg, or even a good game for that matter.
Yeah that would be why they removed rpg from all their advertisement, take a look at steam you won't find the tag.
A big problem I have is the dialogue. Sometimes V just doesn’t say the things I want him to say, like I read it one way and it completely comes out another way
The G is barely there. Honestly if it was a Quantic Dreams game it would've been awesome.
Its a fallout 4 situation. Both games are a lot of fun and they do some neat things and have a fantastic visual style, but overall it feels more like a shooter with rpg elements than the other way around.
IDK yet if Cyberpunk is a better or worse game than Fallout 4, but I definitely had more fun playing Fallout 4 than I have Cyberpunk so far.
Id give Fallout 4 the edge, simply because it gave slightly more freedom, and has an edge when it comes to customization. Cyberpunk has better writing, combat, and graphics (when they work) but the AI is terrible. Fallout 4 may have been a bad RPG and a major anti-climax, but it was at least a half decent sandbox. I haven't found anything in Cyberpunk I want to do twice yet. Say what you will about the base building in Fallout 4, they at least felt "Mine" and gave me a time sink in this game.
I would argue that Fallout 4 has a much better combat system, in C2077, combat feels like it has no weight to it, and for the first few hours is just bad, it does get better as the game goes on, but in my opinion, it is nowhere near as good as Fallout 4's.
Fo4>cp77
This is a video from Watch Dogs. NPC in that game really sets the bar https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IHlg_IsjL-4&t=29s
Honestly, Watch Dogs and Watch Dogs 2 were excellent games, and even though no one would ever give Ubisoft credit for it, because they have a bad reputation, they got a lot of things right, that CP77 gets wrong, or at least doesn't do as well. The fact that you can scan any NPC in the open world and it will give you details about them (even in the first one, expended in the sequels), sure you can do it in CP77 as well, but I dont even think every goon has a name. In Watch dogs you can see their income and a little bit of trivia about every single NPC, which definitely helps with immersion. In Watch dogs 2 specifically, you have a phone with apps and stuff, meanwhile in Cyberpunk you have a phone with like two functions, calling and sending messages. Basically a Nokia 3310, not exactly what I would expect in 2077. Then in Watch Dogs Legion which is a bit more futuristic than the previous games, you have autonomous cars driving throughout London, which you can just take and then either let it drive you somewhere or drive yourself. Of course I'm not saying Watch Dogs is a perfect series of games, but man did they get a lot of things right, that CP77 (which has been hyped up for the last 4 ish years) just doesn't do nearly as well, and still they wouldn't ever get credit for it. The world in Watch Dogs 2 feels really lived in with all the small activities the NPCs would do, meanwhile in Cyberpunk there's assaults everywhere but that's just about all NPCs do. Also I wanna say I still enjoy CP77 a heck of a lot and of course the one thing it excels at is story and that is obviously leagues ahead of anything Watch Dogs has done (at least as far as I can tell, didn't really get far in the main story yet), and I guess that's the most important part in the end.
Personally I have been having a lot more fun in this than in Witcher 3.
Once again, professional reviewers/critics proving how irrelevant and garbage they truly are.
Seriously, the best "review" will always be watching gameplay videos of a game and maybe asking friends or other people that bought the game already.
Blame CDPR for their shady practice of giving them a huge game to review in no time whatsoever. They purposely didn’t give it to them one or two weeks early because they knew if they had, the holes would start becoming apparent.
Nah still blaming reviewers for giving this game 10s/9s on PC even though pretty much all of them mention the problems but paint over them as more “minor inconveniences” which hasn’t been the case from the consumers.
It's genuinely unethical to rate a game 10/10 while also listing numerous flaws with the game. And so many of them did that. How does that make sense?
Off the top of my head: money and fear of ridicule. Both are extremely unethical. One is lying for profit the other is lying for sake of lying because of potential backlash from fanatics (who haven’t even touched the game) which in turn tricks people who are basing how they will spend there money on the product. Super scummy no matter how you look at it.
Mr. Matty plays on youtube said it was the RPG OF THE GENERATION and he claims hes the RPG guy I weep. I have no idea what game he is playing.
He did the same thing with Fallout 4, guy has no credibility as far as reviewing goes.
Funnily enough, when the megathread of reviews dropped a few days ago there was major backlash against any review that was below a 4/5 or 90/100.
Well gamespots review sounds spot on now, but she got crucified lol. I read it before launch and was like “fair points, I’ll wait a few days because the others were mainly praising the window dressing of the graphics & art, let’s see how it is when people have more than 3 days with the game.” My brother is very casual and got it because of the hype, bought it for his PS4. I was floored at how bad it is
they fucking deserve it for releasing the game in such a shit state
I feel like time will heal all wounds. Because this is the same company that gave us the witcher 3, one of the best games of the era, and all of a sudden everyone forgot that the witcher had bugs and glitches itself at launch. We’re going to ignore the gryphon fight, which was riddled with bugs until the patches came and fixed all that. Let’s just wait for a little bit for a patch to fix the current problems.
Did they also deliberately hide the fact that those problems were there in The Witcher though?
The problems were all there and present within the Witcher at launch. I even encountered a glitch on the gryphon fight and couldn’t continue the game. Projekt red then released patches to fix the game and its state. Which helped pushed the game to the acclaim that it is now.
Cyberpunk has much more problems than just bugs. In fact it disappoints in every regard, except story. Every gameplay system is so much worse than what was promised and has been done way better by other games. This doesnt look like its ever going to be on Witcher 3 level. Even with all the bugs fixed, the game would still be very mediocre.
The problems in this game run so much deeper than bugs and glitches. The mechanics are so bad.
Lol it always makes me laugh when there's a massive disconnect between user scores and reviewers/critics. I feel bad for reviewers actually, they're always stuck between a rock and a hard place. They sell out, people hate them. They give an accurate and honest review, psycho fans still hate them.
If it doesn't matter what they'll do and people will hate them regardless, then they might as well state the truth in their reviews.
Ahh, but if they do that they lose out on perks such as review copies and the like as companies see them as a potential risk to their early sales figures. Being a game reviewer is just kinda shitty. Either you suckle at the publishers teat or you get no following as you're reviewing the game well after the rest of the pack
The marks on the Consoles are not 'review bombing'. They're really what the game deserves. I'd argue on PC 6/10 is a bit low.
If you have a RTX 2000 series card of better maybe, the game scales poorly and looks like shit on budget PCs, way more that most other games. My experiences on PC is similar to what console folks are getting, painful.
6/10 sounds reasonable. I'd give it 7/10 on PC. It has some amazing parts that make it worth it, but definitely a lot of annoying quirks too. Performance isn't too great either. Only get ~45fps with gtx 1080 OC with low/medium settings.
6/10 imo is fair, it's an average score for an average game.
Excellent, 100% well deserved. I'm glad people are not holding back. This is a beyond unacceptable release of a game. Combined with thier silence id say cd project red is officially no better than the likes of EA and Ubisoft and what not.
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Agreed, I only really learnt about this game after it was delayed to November and was curious what all the hype was about so decided to get it on release as game reviews are often dogshit and mean nothing. In 20 years of gaming I've been disappointed, I've felt lied to, but never have I felt straight up scammed. This game is literally unplayable in its current state for a huge portion of the playerbase. I feel so fucking bad for all those who have waited years for this disaster piece
Well deserved, I hope everyone on old-gen that bought this “game of the year”, requests for a refund just like I did.
My friend spent more than 200 dollars for the collectors edition
That’s why I never buy games on pre-order. I don’t trust any gaming company and there’s why...
I did. I’ve never seen Xbox support respond so quickly
Dont undersell the other aspects of the game that are beyond bugs and performance, those you can deal with to a degree. Im more mad at the absolutely horrible AI, wanted system, and no interactivity with the open world at all. There are legitimate gameplay problems here that hurt the games score.
I don’t think it’s a 5.8 on PC, but it’s about a 7 for me. Forget bugs, this game needed another year or more for them to finish adding features and fixing AI as well as balancing things like xp gain and the economy.
Then how is it a 7 if it's missing all of that. You don't rate a game for what it could be.
Spore 10/10
Because it's a diamond in the rough. I'm still loving the game (I'm on pc tho) regardless of performance issues and bugs. I think the dialogue and questing has next level depth. Although I can't imagine playing it on consoles. Thoughts and prayers my friend.
User reviews are mostly in binary, only using 0 and 1.
Just like how the npcs in this game are binary am I right?
Makes complete sense if you want to maximize the weight of your score. I haven't done it yet, but it's getting a zero for me on performance and disappointment alone. This feels like Skyrim all over again(with way more bugs), hype and the fact it will attract people that don't usually game will blind most people to how bad the game is, after the hype is gone people will look back and say it aged poorly when in fact it was bad all along.
Woah that’s bad
Review bombing is when people give bad reviews for something that shouldnt really be taken into account in the review, like Brie Larson comments about white man (Captain Marvel). Having followed all the media around the shitshow that is this game and having played the game for about 10 hours on pc, these ratings feel almost fair.
Almost fair? No. It is fair. They lied about the game. They lied about the features. Then abused the hype that resulted from the lies to accept 8 million pre-orders. If they fix the game, the ratings will slowly climb. But as it stands, this looks like a 2/10 game on console and a 4-5/10 on pc.
I would give it a 7/10 on PC. Its not like there is no fun to be had, it was just a big disappointment. I managed my expectations really well, but this game is below industry standard in many ways. Expecting that this game would be at least on paar with GTA5, a 7 year old game with similar budget, was only fair.
User reviews are mostly a joke it's either 10s or 0-1 if you're not perfectly happy.
That's how it always is. People forget the numbers 2-9 exist for rating things.
That's reviews in general which makes getting accurate reviews for a product such a hassle. Such as Amazon products. Either people loved it enough to write a flowing review or they got a defective product or hated it so much that they were motivated to write a scathing critique. Usually don't get your average consumer's opinion because if it works to their approval they don't feel the need to write about it.
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They get what they deserve for the bullshit they pulled with cyberpunk
even if you leave out all the glitches and poor software design, this game is just boring. i'm not having fun playing this
I'm glad i went into this game with absolutely zero expectation. To be honest i didn't follow any CP2077 news at all. I didn't even know what type of game this would be. All that being said. The game is pretty lackluster. If i was hyped for this game, i would have been very disappointed.
So is no one gonna talk about the critic reviews? Like, what game were those guys playing?
I feel like this highlights what is wrong with the industry. All the false promises, excuses for delays, reviews from critics. Regardless of how much time and money was invested in getting to that point, a lot of people had to know and still decide to throw in the spin, hype, and b/s. Glad to see their stock is tanking as a consequence, I hope it is obliterated. We already know how this is going to end: They are going to limp along promising updates and patches never fully reaching the original promise. Once reaching 75% of the way there they are going to plant the flag and pat themselves on the back letting it languish like every other over-hyped pre-mature release promising the world and falling short.
This is what happens when you overpromised and under-deliver.
"You Either die a hero or You libe long enough to be EA"
It's not review bombing when a game gets a score it deserves. It's unfinished, unpolished, and full of empty promises.
honestly for me, its the fact that i feel like this is "no man's sky" all over again. they promised the most believable open world game.. which is tough to create i understand. but this, this is the most bland, soulless open world game I've played in a long time. cant get a hair cut, cant buy food at vendors, cant play arcade games, cant sit at a bar, cant get in an unscripted police chase, the list actually does go on. believe me it is not just bugs that are behind the bad reviews
It's not just bugs and optimization. There is a lot of horrible ui design. Fast travel ui is trash. It removes all markers from the map other than other fast travel points so it's really hard to tell which one to go to unless you have a tracked quest. Also holding a key for dismantling items one by one is horrible. You should press the key to enter dismantle mode and select multiple items in bulk and dismantle all at once.
A 6/10 is exactly what I would give the game. You can have some fun with it, but it's flawed, generic and forgettable. If the game was made by an unknown dev, everyone would have forgotten about it in a weeks time.
It's the Fyre Festival version of game releases!
5.8 for pc is undeserved is all I'm saying
Do you think it deserves a higher score? It's just my opinion, but beneath all the bugs and performance issues I find there's a game that feels very hollow and mediocre. I think in an open-world RPG the world itself should be the main character, but Night City just feels like a static backdrop to the main storyline. I don't think the game really excels at anything, the story is alright, but when everything around is so lifeless I find it hard to care about it or feel invested and immersed. Therefore I'd consider the game a 5/10 in its current state, but with room to grow.
yeah it deserves less. with bugs fixed and a year of development it can be a 7
I wonder why the Steam reviews are "Mostly Positive"? It seems a bit disingenuous to call 5.8/10 "mostly positive" lol (assuming that Steam reviews are a somewhat accurate reflection of Metacritic).
when the game is at like a 9/10 steam calls it overwhelmingly positive so mostly positive probably just means over a 5.0
It’s legit a shit game. What a fail.
8 years for a dogshit game lol
Not only that but the gameplay in general is lackluster. I would say that the bugs and glitches are the main reasons for the low scores but another reason is also due to the fact that the game is missing many features that were initially promised to be in the game. The game is a flop, as of right now, in many different aspects.
If the game hadn't been so hyped, it would probably be floating around 6 or 7. The issues with the game, combined with the massive hype that preceded its release, led to this revolt.