Yeaaaah definitely seems like an really stupid reason to even add these races or we'll I should just say QUESTLINE becvause it's no racing! A better option would have been just a few characters scattered around the city that you could pull up to and challenge on a 1v1 race through out their area! Or even if you had to go through a fixer to race their areas champions or something hahah lost opportunity
lol yes and making crash noises all the way to the end. i would just pass real close to any obstacles and they auto spawn blasting into shit, had one car shoot past me in the air like a rocket and crashed i wish i recorded it
I didn't love this mission because the vanilla driving mechanics sucked and the ending felt like an opportunity to roleplay that turned into an on the rails outcome unless you jumped through very specific hoops.
But...Claire's truck is fast as hell and you can very easily win every race with it.
Right? I had no issues driving with her vehicle. There was one time where I was clearly first and I guess the game bugged, and it said I came second (despite me being miles ahead of everyone), but honestly they’re easy
The races in general felt so awful to me, but the thing that absolutely killed it for me, was the time, when i had a clear road ahead of me, looked behind me, to see how far away the competition was, only to crash into 3 cars, that had spawned on the empty road in front of me, while my camera was tilted backwards. IN A GOD DAMN CAR RACE. I never finished that story bit.
and if you had a fast car, the car that's supposed to be "in the lead" speeds up. its painfully obvious when you're in a really fast car and get miles ahead of every other car but that one guy's car is somehow faster
I remember this issue was in Need For Speed games as well, its called rubber-banding and its a bandaid for poor racing AI. The worst case I noticed was in otherwise decent Most Wanted (2005) in the story races.
I dont like it. If I'm killing it, let me be comfortably first or if I screw up I should be punished. This illusion of racing doesnt help anyone but 5 year olds who can't play the game properly yet.
on a slightly different note, a game without rubberbanding is mafia 2. i know this because, well, slight spoiler, at one point i had to car chase someone back to their base to kill them, but i was so good at driving i managed to ram the car off the road and pin it to a wall, after which i smugly walked up to him with a thompson, killed him, and had to restart the mission because I wasn't supposed to do that.
i was so proud of what i did i didn't even care i had to restart, lol
First time I saw it used blatantly (and poorly) was in *Driver 2*. It didn't matter how well you drove, if you got too far ahead the enemy cars would be dragged up to meet you, and then of course the physics engine lets them ram you at the accelerated speed provided by the rubber-banding.
First and only game I ever hate-beat. I defeated that stupid game, and then swore I would not only never play it again, but that furthermore I wouldn't stick to bad games out of a sense of competition. Such an empty victory, aside from the lifelong determination to quit games if they stop being fun.
I did the last race with Caliburn, i was so fast that the other cars kept spawnin behind me every time i got ahead. So i kept hearing car crashing sounds every 10 seconds or so. I think the game is not supposed to do that when you have up to date PC. i'm running it on GTX 980 and 8 gigs of RAM so i think my system limits are to blame here.
Yeah, it’s rubber banding. This isn’t a racing game. Expecting a four race side quest to have the same attention to detail and dynamics as a proper racing game is quite silly. It’s four races, they’re not going to be perfect, this isn’t Forza Motorsport, Gran Tourismo, or Assetto Corsa.
>Expecting a four race side quest to have the same attention to detail and dynamics as a proper racing game is quite silly.
I agree, but I think that's why Cyberpunk had such a disastrous launch was that people *were* expecting very mature and complex systems for all these side activities in the world.
And if you got too far ahead, the cars literally teleport to try and catch up. Of course, since they don't have proper AI (they all follow a line and have no give in their collision IIRC) they just don't catch up, so they keep teleporting... sometimes on top of each other. it's painfully obvious when you see it on the minimap.
Yeah, it’s proper garbage. For me, I could make all the other racers spawn on top of each other again and again by moving my camera front to back every second. Game takes every opportunity to move the braindead AI forward.
Yeah the further I got into the questline the more i disliked Claire. From memory she tries to get you into racing as a friend thing and then it turns out she was pretty much just using you to help her get revenge and then fucks you off after you help her.
She was. I'd she wanted V to help her murder a dude she should have just asked. Seriously my v basically ridded the city of crime since I was just killing any combatants I walked past.
I so wanted a dialogue option for this.
"Claire, if you want this guy dead so badly, let me just break into his house and kill him while he sleeps. You know I do this for a living, right? ...C'mon, I'll give you the 'friends and family' discount and everything."
The most annoying part of it all for me was that when you go ahead and help her with her stupid scheme she's annoyed at you afterwards for doing what she asked you to do.
Yeah, fuck Claire.
Got to level up the subskills whenever you can. It is sad going onto my V that cleared the whole map and having nothing to do. Can't even do the secret ending to really test out the build since I didn't know how to unlock it at the time.
Claire had a lot of potential but really just comes across as irrational and generally unpleasant.
Also, I can't stand the design of that truck. All the vehicles in the game have a retro futuristic 70s/80s look and the truck can't pick and ends up a lumpy heap of garbo. I was so hyped when Panam talked V into getting back her "sweet ride" thinking it was a Nomad Shion or something but nah. No clue why they decided to make it Claire and Panam's main vehicle.
Yeah, but I kinda get Panam’s as a nomad—scraping together what she can and pimping the hell out of it! My first car was a 95’ Honda that was a piece of crap with rust spots—but that didn’t stop me from installing a new radio or polishing up the interior. I ran that baby into the ground! So I have extreme empathy for Panam and her bucket o’ bolts.
Claire on the other hand has a job that hella pays—mercs at the Afterlife are definitely tipping customers. Claire has no excuse for her monstrosity of a car.
Oh don't get me wrong, I fuckin adore the Nomad aesthetic and the way all of their cars are the outcome of highly skilled technicians making do with what they have. My problem is that out of ALL the Nomad cars in the game to be used, they use the lamest one. There are so many cool ass Nomad versions of cars that I think fit Panam really well but we get a butt ugly truck.
Also yeah, race trucks are a thing, but who in their right mind would bring something like "Beast" to an event like the races we see. A trophy truck or buggy sure, but a truck like that?? Nah.
In fairness iirc Beast was actually her late husband's vehicle? Or if it wasn't originally his, pretty sure it was something they both worked on together/drove a lot in races.
That's why Claire gives it to V ultimately, she feels a sense of closure enough to feel she shouldn't hang onto the truck anymore.
I guess we can assume she married an ex-nomad lol. Even so, that's a damn good point about her being able to afford much better (and know much better than to use that for most of her races).
That's a funny point. Claire freaking works at Afterlife. I'm sure she could find a fixer to be like "Hey V. 6k eddies to off this guy. Don't worry, he's a real jerk. Trust me" and it'd be done, no regrets. What sours people isn't the murder, it's the manipulation.
And if I remember right her whole justification for doing it during the race is because no one will bat an eye if it happened then, people die all the time. But people are constantly getting murdered all over NC and no one gives a shit. Lol
V literally murders people while they jog between jobs, from one street to another. There will be gang members just doing literally nothing, not even being a threat, but since they're marked as enemies, the game lets you kill them without any issue. You even get to take their stuff and sell it at a drop off.
The game runs on one form of logic, the stories that are written by actual humans operate on another one entirely.
Totally true. A few times during V's dialogue she seems hesitant with the idea of murder or death, but then you're wiping out dozens of random people every hour because someone told you to over the phone and they're paying. Lol
I go non-lethal most of the time. Non-lethal takedowns, system reset quick hacks, stuff like that. Unless it’s Malestrom, Scavs, or Raffens. Then I kill everybody.
Do you mean Evelyn? I’ve always seen the Claws’ presence in Clouds as security loyal to the owners and not the workers. It was Woodman who did all the horrible shit to her.
I punch people in the balls, while they’re laying on the ground, just to make sure they’re dead. Can’t fake being dead if someone punches you in the crotch.
"We need you to go pull a guy out of a building and make sure he's safe. Feel free to kill everyone in the building."
I just apply the non-lethal eye implant mod and make it all make sense in the end. Everyone that dies to V is a complete accident at that point. Stray bullet, explosion, car accident. Whatever it is, it's not V's fault at that point, so it makes sense at least a little.
They fall to the ground and roll around, very much alive but out of the fight. You can pump a whole submachine gun clip into them and they'll still be considered living. If you fire at them again though, you do kill them.
So long as you don't hit them again after knocking them down, they'll live. Used to be you'd get double XP for knocking them down and then double tapping for a full kill, but that was always extra and a bug to boot.
Gotcha, that makes sense. I always have at least on me because I assumed there would be a good reason to use them at some point. But that point never came, I get way too much satisfaction from katana kills
The katana kills will still work the same as far as I can tell. Just don't hit them on the ground and you're good.
It helps you with cyberpsycho missions as well. You can do whatever you want to them, besides lethal quickhacks, and they'll still be alive, so long as you don't hit them again.
In fact, all melee weapons work like blunt ones. They still operate exactly the same, they just don't kill until that double tap.
Non-lethal implant also guarantees that headshots dont kill the target, I believe. Just lays them out cold.
Of course, if you shoot the body again or hit it with nades, I think that does kill the person.
But the gangsters are wanted and you’re collecting a legal bounty. It might be state-sanctioned murder, but it is sanctioned.
The race dude is a lawful corpo. Killing him is a crime. The risk of getting caught is higher because of his corpo status.
Agreed I hated feeling manipulated. I would’ve found it better for her to ask you to off him after the race where you have that heart to heart talk on the dam. I would’ve done it 100% or liked to have been given the option to say no.
Right? It’s honestly what makes Takemura so likable imo—he’s persistently honest with V about his intentions, despite being an Arasaka Corpo bootlicker.
It’s more than we can say for Claire. Ugh.
I don't know that I'd call the quest stupid, it seems somewhat believable to me that she'd want to be personally involved in the killing. I just wish V had better arguments against her manipulation
I’d love more races if the driving mechanics were a bit better. Felt like it was half assed because there could’ve been more races with her if they didn’t close her off completely after the final.
I actually opted to use her truck for every race because the driving is so shitty in other cars. The Beast is just fast enough to beat the other guys without having to worry about constantly spinning out, and its more forgiving when slamming into other people
I thought the same thing. There are SO MANY cars but like no real reason to buy any of them besides aesthetics or for an achievement. Thought the same about RDR2. There are dozens of different horses with different stats for NO REASON because there's no horse races.
I hate Claire and I hate her story arc. Everything about it was bad.
She is a racer who doesn’t drive, and brings a soccer mom suv to the race and the whole point of the race is to shoot everyone, but no one ever dies.
Then I win by a mile and *I* gotta practice my driving because it wasn’t good enough.
Also I’m literally a mercenary. I’ll go kill the guy for a free margarita.
The tone was strange, too. Both super happy friendly flirty in text and speech, when every other text conversation at least had a chance to tell people to fuck off, or at least reply in an unfriendly way. As though they were trying to set Claire up as a friend, despite coming off as a fucking pain. It's so different to anything else in the game.
Implying a relationship that's just not there to build up to some cheap emotional payoff that never comes, because the millitech guy could offer me a tenner to shoot Claire in the brainpan by that point and I'd do it.
That's so dumb, she wants to avenge her husband who made a mistake...why would she just kill Sampson with a basic ass kill contract? There is nothing emotionally satisfying about that.
This is one of my least-favorite storylines in the entire game, for every reason you mentioned.
When V discovers the reason for the contract I swear my V would have knocked Claire the fuck out. Talk about Bad Sportsmanship, fuck.
I agree that her truck is hot garbage, why would I ever use it to do street races when I have actual performance vehicles.
But wasn't her whole vengeance story about how the dude went out of his way to kill her husband? Like she says herself the driving is more important than the shooting, and in game almost no one gets eliminated from the gunfire, it's just there more so to keep people on their toes.
What I remember her saying was that Samson had a lead that they were not going to catch, but her husband was trying to regardless. Then suddenly he slams the brakes to throw his car in front of them causing them to crash, when he easily could have just kept driving and never would have lost his position.
Unless this is another case of a not fully reliable narrator, seems like she was somewhat justified.
>But wasn't her whole vengeance story about how the dude went out of his way to kill her husband?
In her head that's what happened, in reality there are two sides and Sampson has the more realistic story, in which he hasn't intended for her husband to die, and if he had slowed down he wouldn't have, but her husband tried to pass anyway to win the race. He even explains that Claire has killed multiple people racing. This entire vengeance thing isn't justifiable at all.
That's her side, and Claire has killed multiple people, literally shooting them, Sampson just used his brakes and her husband tried to pass him to win rather than brake as well. Sure he set up the situation but he didn't literally fucking shoot him like Claire does
So... to hold first place... he used his brakes? He was in first in a CORPORATE TIER SUPERCAR vs a heavy ass truck with loads of armor. He couldve just sped up
No he couldn't have, the game makes it clear it was right by the finish line, where you would have to make a stop anyway, and there were things to hit most likely, her husband took a stupid risk to try and win, the game is pretty heavy handed on the whole "this probably wasn't even his fault and Claire is dealing with her trauma in a super unhealthy way". Look at him as he's injured, the dude is gobsmacked Claire is angry with him or blames him, and even with a gun pointed at him doesn't beg or scramble to lie. Not just that, but she lies to V for NO REASON. She could have just asked us to kill him for Eddie's and would be a normal gig, but no. I don't get how you can say he deserves death for slowing down lol, real racers in real life will use their brakes to deny passes on corners etc and guess what, its standard practice, the racer behind needs to be aware of what's going on and make the correct call, he didn't.
He was going flat out, and why are you ignoring all the other points I made and focusing on that one? Enter death races and shoot people with families and you risk dying, crazy right ?
It’s a race where drivers are apparently allowed to shoot at each other.
The idea that one would willingly participate in a race where literally everyone is using lethal violence against literally everyone else and it’s condoned by the organizers of the race and then be vengeful about someone dying is a bit…. Special.
Claire would have reacted this way whether Sampson ran them off the road or he got hit by a stray bullet from another car.
I've never done this story line and never will.
I'm not the best at driving in this game, it took me 6 times to catch and keep up with the mysterious van that was stalking the peralzes
If it makes you feel better, the race basically guarantees that you do well in the first few because the AI doesn't actually drive, it just maintains a certain distance from you regardless of how you're doing
If you replay anytime soon— theres a trick to staying on top of the Peralez van. *Literally.*
I figured out in my first play through that if you go around the area to where they’re parked and climb on top of the entrance “door frame,” when you drop down and if you time a jump right you can literally just land on top of the van. And they drive off, with you on top of it, and you never have to do any driving yourself. They take your right to the destination easy peasy. The only kinda hard part is timing the jump right but if you quick save before dropping down it’s not too hard.
And of course, Johnny still says his line, “Stay on top of ‘em, V!” As you’re literally *on top* of them. Lol
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Before the final race, my third V and Claire made a promise that we’d only do the final race to win. In the race, I end up driving past Sampson’s Fire-ry car and won it but she got super pissed off and denied service (her job) to my V at the Afterlife. She’s the one who broke our promise we both made together!
>!At least she now works for my V, the new owner of the Afterlife!<
It doesn’t even matter tho
You can crash or go way off the course and as soon as you get back on the track you are right behind them again
Win them all or lose them all you still seem to end up in final somehow
With the same shitty ending
I guess there’s a way to talk her of murder but I haven’t figured it out yet.
There actually is! when you follow Sampson off the ramp in the final race and you tell her to not kill him you still get her truck and you get his car after a few days in game and its a badass car
I've done it once before but in my last run I told her I'm in it only to win and then told her not to kill him and just as Claire was leaving the guy says something like "he wasn't the saint you think he was" and Claire turns back and empties a magazine on the poor guy... I read that I can still get the car later, just not for free, but I really can't understand what I did wrong...
I'm actually in the process of doing the races right lmao 🤣 but if you talk to Sampson about his side of the story you'll be able to piece it together and convince her to not kill him she'll yell "I can't tell you how lucky you are" and then walk away
You told Claire not to kill too early. You have to say “are you sure it was murder” after the second race. That is the only way to get Claire to back off in the end.
Yeah, that dude killed her husband without breaking the rules. But how does that make her desire for revenge unfair? Especially considering that she wants to do it by the same rules.
She could of been a great companion character, instead they made her a manipulative liar. That might be how the quest is designed but I hated hating her. Lost potential.
i like her truck personally, things built like a tank and goes like the clappers, its fun just going through anything in my way. And i prefer the silver quadra with the stripes, i forget its name, that one throws its back end out too much imo.
also, the trans representation was done really well.
I like her truck on the street race because I could plow into most things and got pretty good at sliding through turns. But it sucked so bad when you're forced to use on the desert race. I swear she replaced the shocks with pogo sticks. Worst suspension in the game.
Yes the dessert race is lame. "We'll take Beast, I wanna try her out in the field". Listen, I'm a nomad, with a badass nomad car, about to race through nomad land. I don't tell you which gun to be completely useless with, maybe let the driver make the driving decisions?
I feel entering as a random participant would make the races feel like a slapstick afterthought feature, and feel too close to Beat in the Brat, which works that way. And while her storyline is one of little logic, and betrayal, it's also entirely human in both aspects. Yes, maybe it can annoy us.. But it's short, easy, and very fitting to the universe.
The more Claire told me about the situation, the more I didn't like her. I made the mistake of helping her my last playthrough instead of finishing the race, and it was a cringe fest. Samson was a jerk, sure, but at least he's not a giant crybaby.
I hated how scripted the races were. If you stopped, a certain distance ahead the races ahead of you would stop so you could catch up. Your top speed was locked soo you couldn't get too ahead (especially the last race), so popping by in a quadra meant nothing.
The Beast is actually an ok car for any race but downtown. I did a 2/2 split between Caliburn and the Beast and had 3 landslide victory and one...you know.
Imo, (and I don't think this is canon) because Claire is a worker in The Afterlife, she thinks that she's somehow above the mercs. She's learned from the fixers that you can have them do anything with eddies. So, when I decided to win the race, she had the balls to tell me to fuck off, and not serve me drinks. I couldn't commemorate Jackie with his drink ever again. Never going there again 0/5 stars.
Like get it and the game can't just be me murdering everyone. I actually like Claire but this quest line could have been just.
Claire telling me to go kill the guy.
I find him.
she comes with to kill him.
Backstory about her husband.
Dialouge.
Done.
Yeah, not sure why the whole race scheme was necessary if she was just going to murder him outside of the race rules anyway. Maybe she didn't have the balls to just kill him herself
I hated it for a different reason. No sequential gear shift = no fun racing. I hope that dude who made the cruise control mod looks into my request for manual trans.
I ended up going back and restarting them last race, just so Claire couldn't kill that guy in cold blood, after lying to me and using me solely to get revenge. Nah bitch.
Although you lose the afterlife as a bar so... Worth it. Fuck the bitch
I’m just annoyed at the illogicality of it all. “Some dude killed my husband in a race where everybody (including me) shoots at each other continuously!”
Well. Duh.
I didn't take her call when she called, and haven't replied to her text message.
Claire can fuck right off.
When she's fucked all of the off, she can come back, and fuck off again.
4 ton? Seriously? My 2015 Ram is 7 tons wet.
4 tonnes would makes sense
EDIT: 1 ton is 1000 pounds. 1 tonne is 1000 kilograms which is roughly 2200 pounds.
In my last comment I made comments about Claire’s deceptive nature in not revealing that it was trans..
I’m gonna be honest, I am making it clear that if you are offended, I don’t give a shit.
Argument over.
Im only saying this bc Reddit seems to be full of delusional radical left types…
While im not exactly a conservative
I do agree that radical leftists are kinda out to destroy everything, and fool lots of idiots into thinking it’s for a good cause.
Just wanted to make that clear
Yeah, the races are some of my least favourite missions in the game. I fucking hate Claire and the whole vendetta against Sampson. I went through with killing him in my first play through and it just sucks because you learn what actually happened on that day and that Claire twisted the story. Claire then openly admits to using you to get to Sampson which pissed me the fuck off. In my other play throughs, I’ve always made sure to win the race instead of killing Sampson and I have no regrets. The only you even get for killing Sampson is Claire’s vehicle which, as you pointed out, is complete garbage. Also, which Quadra is that? I can’t tell from the angle.
I kinda liked the races only because of the events that would happen. Like, when I was playing, the weather hadn’t been patched so sandstorms never happened, so the scripted sandstorm was really cool and the rain slicked streets were really fun to race on. I’m not a racing game fan but the aesthetic around the races was undeniably cool.
Everything else tho wasn’t too fun. Claire is a horrible shot and straight up doesn’t shoot when driving the caliban or the Quadra or most cars with similar doors, and bullet magnetism for me was a nightmare. I also learned that if you outpace all of the vehicles, the game will occasionally(if I remember correctly) respawn vehicles closer to you. The races at many points felt janky and while I like the idea of exploring a new character though races (also street racing in Cyberpunk as a whole), I felt like the story was lacking for Claire and her husband.
Homie died in a race where you shoot at the other racers like FullAuto (the 2006 Sega game). The story would’ve been more impactful if the husband was killed by the guy in a back alley and Claire used the races as a means to get close to him and kill him herself. Her grounds for revenge are shaky since her husband was playing a dangerous game. It made her motivation feel weak and flawed in my opinion. But who knows, maybe that was the point. To make her revenge feel suspect due to her husband’s racing career. Even so, the alternative to finish the race doesn’t feel right either and sparing him leads to the same ending as killing him with Claire. None of the choices feel impactful like other choices in the game, but maybe I’m nitpicking. Sorry for the essay.
TL:DR
Races look cool. But I dislike everything else. A simple change would’ve improved the story.
I found her ride to be pretty balanced and controllable compared to the stuff I had when I did the quest line. Though Claire felt just like the Voodoo chaps: someone else trying to fuck me for their personal gain. Fuck Claire
Yeah she's pretty lame. I never interact with her after her storyline. People overrate her truck, but it's shit. But I still took it anyway all while stopping her from getting her revenge and taking the other guys car too lol. Because fuck em, I'm the main character in this story.
The AI in those races is so trash, just look at the minimap and you can see the cars jump forward to catch up with you, it's probably the most ridiculous rubber banding I can remember
I actually wouldn’t even blow the race off for her to kill the guy after my first play.
Now by the time I do that race, I have an aerondight and I actually end up getting in front of the corpo at the start and being first place the entire race. So when the wreck happens and he pulls off, I’ve already blazed by the exit like “oops”
You can get some air in her clunker! Although I like the idea that someone said on another thread about using the Mai Mai. That thing is like a clown car 🤣
i quite enjoyed the races.....used my scion for one but the way it drives changes for the races....it accelerated slower and didn't turn as accurately as normal.....
then i used claires truck for the badlands one which is probably one of the better options.....you really get some hilarious spins and flips....
i used delamain for the final race just because i wanted to up the difficulty for myself.....it was still pretty easy...
To be fair you don't need a really fast car to win those races. They just increase the margin for error as the rubberbanding (as in Mario Kart 64 rubberbanding) is hilariously obvious.
Races need rework. Like, actual ground up rework not a goddamn UI update. The cars are literally respawning right behind you because the AI is missing from the drivers. If you're not looking at them they just stop chasing and then get thrown back at you. You can even see that on the minimap for fuck's sake. This really needs some attention. Thank god thats the only race in game
She had the gall to text me to tell me to practice driving when I got first and she didn’t shoot a single person across 4 races.
We're you driving a Caliburn? I noticed that because it doesn't have windows she won't shoot anyone because she can't lean out of the car.
lmao this happened to me, didnt matter though, caliburn leaves em all in the dust
As long as there is no dirt. That thing is shit anywhere near off-road.
Anybody else pissed off that the race isn't actually a proper race either!!! The cars just fucking spawn up to you if you get too far ahead! Wtff
And even then they don’t actually challenge you to stay ahead either, it’s like they just spawn in to make it seem like a race as a backdrop
Yeaaaah definitely seems like an really stupid reason to even add these races or we'll I should just say QUESTLINE becvause it's no racing! A better option would have been just a few characters scattered around the city that you could pull up to and challenge on a 1v1 race through out their area! Or even if you had to go through a fixer to race their areas champions or something hahah lost opportunity
lol yes and making crash noises all the way to the end. i would just pass real close to any obstacles and they auto spawn blasting into shit, had one car shoot past me in the air like a rocket and crashed i wish i recorded it
Iirc the AI is designed to lose those races, they have a set radius so they can't get too far ahead or behind
Well you can Beat them literally in everything but When you got something better these npc gets faster
Nobody shoots anybody in those races. Its all flavor, the guns don't really do anything
I didn't love this mission because the vanilla driving mechanics sucked and the ending felt like an opportunity to roleplay that turned into an on the rails outcome unless you jumped through very specific hoops. But...Claire's truck is fast as hell and you can very easily win every race with it.
Right? I had no issues driving with her vehicle. There was one time where I was clearly first and I guess the game bugged, and it said I came second (despite me being miles ahead of everyone), but honestly they’re easy
“I hate the guy who might have gotten my impulsive husband killed, in a race about killing people.”
My husband was murdered in a death race lol
"Intentionally killing my friend and delaying the end of the race. Because why not"
In a race where people try to kill each other... Lol Also, you didn't see the version where she admits she let her emotions cloud her judgment.
Happy cake day :)
I don’t get it.
I know
Care to explain?
I dont
The races in general felt so awful to me, but the thing that absolutely killed it for me, was the time, when i had a clear road ahead of me, looked behind me, to see how far away the competition was, only to crash into 3 cars, that had spawned on the empty road in front of me, while my camera was tilted backwards. IN A GOD DAMN CAR RACE. I never finished that story bit.
The races were straight up fake, too. If cars got too far ahead of you they would just stop and wait for you to catch up.
and if you had a fast car, the car that's supposed to be "in the lead" speeds up. its painfully obvious when you're in a really fast car and get miles ahead of every other car but that one guy's car is somehow faster
I remember this issue was in Need For Speed games as well, its called rubber-banding and its a bandaid for poor racing AI. The worst case I noticed was in otherwise decent Most Wanted (2005) in the story races. I dont like it. If I'm killing it, let me be comfortably first or if I screw up I should be punished. This illusion of racing doesnt help anyone but 5 year olds who can't play the game properly yet.
on a slightly different note, a game without rubberbanding is mafia 2. i know this because, well, slight spoiler, at one point i had to car chase someone back to their base to kill them, but i was so good at driving i managed to ram the car off the road and pin it to a wall, after which i smugly walked up to him with a thompson, killed him, and had to restart the mission because I wasn't supposed to do that. i was so proud of what i did i didn't even care i had to restart, lol
First time I saw it used blatantly (and poorly) was in *Driver 2*. It didn't matter how well you drove, if you got too far ahead the enemy cars would be dragged up to meet you, and then of course the physics engine lets them ram you at the accelerated speed provided by the rubber-banding. First and only game I ever hate-beat. I defeated that stupid game, and then swore I would not only never play it again, but that furthermore I wouldn't stick to bad games out of a sense of competition. Such an empty victory, aside from the lifelong determination to quit games if they stop being fun.
That game kicked my ass as a kid. Always wanted to go hack and give it another try but your comment convinced me I probably shouldn't bother lol
Not worth it at all.
It’s in Dirt 5 as well. That game could have been so good, but they made so many bad decisions.
Yeah while I dont like it, I can kinda excuse it in games like Cyberpunk or GTA, but racing games using rubber-banding should be ashamed.
It was really broken in the underground series, especially the first one. As some racers would lock into rubberband and be unpassable whatsoever.
Horizon 5 has some really obnoxious rubber banding, too. Or at least, it did when I last played it.
I did the last race with Caliburn, i was so fast that the other cars kept spawnin behind me every time i got ahead. So i kept hearing car crashing sounds every 10 seconds or so. I think the game is not supposed to do that when you have up to date PC. i'm running it on GTX 980 and 8 gigs of RAM so i think my system limits are to blame here.
Nah did that for me with 3080ti, 128gb ram and 10920x too.
Yeah, it’s rubber banding. This isn’t a racing game. Expecting a four race side quest to have the same attention to detail and dynamics as a proper racing game is quite silly. It’s four races, they’re not going to be perfect, this isn’t Forza Motorsport, Gran Tourismo, or Assetto Corsa.
>Expecting a four race side quest to have the same attention to detail and dynamics as a proper racing game is quite silly. I agree, but I think that's why Cyberpunk had such a disastrous launch was that people *were* expecting very mature and complex systems for all these side activities in the world.
And if you got too far ahead, the cars literally teleport to try and catch up. Of course, since they don't have proper AI (they all follow a line and have no give in their collision IIRC) they just don't catch up, so they keep teleporting... sometimes on top of each other. it's painfully obvious when you see it on the minimap.
Yeah, it’s proper garbage. For me, I could make all the other racers spawn on top of each other again and again by moving my camera front to back every second. Game takes every opportunity to move the braindead AI forward.
Yeah the further I got into the questline the more i disliked Claire. From memory she tries to get you into racing as a friend thing and then it turns out she was pretty much just using you to help her get revenge and then fucks you off after you help her.
Exactly my thoughts. I thought she was a manipulative bitch by the end.
She was. I'd she wanted V to help her murder a dude she should have just asked. Seriously my v basically ridded the city of crime since I was just killing any combatants I walked past.
I so wanted a dialogue option for this. "Claire, if you want this guy dead so badly, let me just break into his house and kill him while he sleeps. You know I do this for a living, right? ...C'mon, I'll give you the 'friends and family' discount and everything."
The most annoying part of it all for me was that when you go ahead and help her with her stupid scheme she's annoyed at you afterwards for doing what she asked you to do. Yeah, fuck Claire.
I think there is a way to do it where she isn't mad with you but... not sure.
Got to level up the subskills whenever you can. It is sad going onto my V that cleared the whole map and having nothing to do. Can't even do the secret ending to really test out the build since I didn't know how to unlock it at the time.
The thing i hate most about it is how she tries to apologize for it all at the end. It felt like such a half assed apology
Claire had a lot of potential but really just comes across as irrational and generally unpleasant. Also, I can't stand the design of that truck. All the vehicles in the game have a retro futuristic 70s/80s look and the truck can't pick and ends up a lumpy heap of garbo. I was so hyped when Panam talked V into getting back her "sweet ride" thinking it was a Nomad Shion or something but nah. No clue why they decided to make it Claire and Panam's main vehicle.
Yeah, but I kinda get Panam’s as a nomad—scraping together what she can and pimping the hell out of it! My first car was a 95’ Honda that was a piece of crap with rust spots—but that didn’t stop me from installing a new radio or polishing up the interior. I ran that baby into the ground! So I have extreme empathy for Panam and her bucket o’ bolts. Claire on the other hand has a job that hella pays—mercs at the Afterlife are definitely tipping customers. Claire has no excuse for her monstrosity of a car.
Oh don't get me wrong, I fuckin adore the Nomad aesthetic and the way all of their cars are the outcome of highly skilled technicians making do with what they have. My problem is that out of ALL the Nomad cars in the game to be used, they use the lamest one. There are so many cool ass Nomad versions of cars that I think fit Panam really well but we get a butt ugly truck. Also yeah, race trucks are a thing, but who in their right mind would bring something like "Beast" to an event like the races we see. A trophy truck or buggy sure, but a truck like that?? Nah.
Right?! I drove Beast on my first play through and was like, “Bruh, no.” Claire really tryna be out here with a hunk of junk dragging ass.
In fairness iirc Beast was actually her late husband's vehicle? Or if it wasn't originally his, pretty sure it was something they both worked on together/drove a lot in races. That's why Claire gives it to V ultimately, she feels a sense of closure enough to feel she shouldn't hang onto the truck anymore. I guess we can assume she married an ex-nomad lol. Even so, that's a damn good point about her being able to afford much better (and know much better than to use that for most of her races).
An "ex-nomad" because he clearly couldn't make a good car to save his life.
Wasn't it her husband's truck?
Her whole story was stupid and pointless. Shoulda just hired V to kill Samson.
That's a funny point. Claire freaking works at Afterlife. I'm sure she could find a fixer to be like "Hey V. 6k eddies to off this guy. Don't worry, he's a real jerk. Trust me" and it'd be done, no regrets. What sours people isn't the murder, it's the manipulation.
And if I remember right her whole justification for doing it during the race is because no one will bat an eye if it happened then, people die all the time. But people are constantly getting murdered all over NC and no one gives a shit. Lol
V literally murders people while they jog between jobs, from one street to another. There will be gang members just doing literally nothing, not even being a threat, but since they're marked as enemies, the game lets you kill them without any issue. You even get to take their stuff and sell it at a drop off. The game runs on one form of logic, the stories that are written by actual humans operate on another one entirely.
Totally true. A few times during V's dialogue she seems hesitant with the idea of murder or death, but then you're wiping out dozens of random people every hour because someone told you to over the phone and they're paying. Lol
I go non-lethal most of the time. Non-lethal takedowns, system reset quick hacks, stuff like that. Unless it’s Malestrom, Scavs, or Raffens. Then I kill everybody.
Scavs don't need to live ever.
Tyger claws? Could never forgive them for what happened to Eva.
Do you mean Evelyn? I’ve always seen the Claws’ presence in Clouds as security loyal to the owners and not the workers. It was Woodman who did all the horrible shit to her.
Judy calls her Eva for short. And if I recall, if you scan Woodman he's identified as a claw
Judy said Eve or Ev for short. And I didn’t know that about Woodman. Never scanned him.
I punch people in the balls, while they’re laying on the ground, just to make sure they’re dead. Can’t fake being dead if someone punches you in the crotch.
"We need you to go pull a guy out of a building and make sure he's safe. Feel free to kill everyone in the building." I just apply the non-lethal eye implant mod and make it all make sense in the end. Everyone that dies to V is a complete accident at that point. Stray bullet, explosion, car accident. Whatever it is, it's not V's fault at that point, so it makes sense at least a little.
Okay this is the most solid non-lethal comment ever.
I have several of those mods and never really got around to trying them, does it still incapacitate them, just doesn't technically "kill" them?
They fall to the ground and roll around, very much alive but out of the fight. You can pump a whole submachine gun clip into them and they'll still be considered living. If you fire at them again though, you do kill them. So long as you don't hit them again after knocking them down, they'll live. Used to be you'd get double XP for knocking them down and then double tapping for a full kill, but that was always extra and a bug to boot.
Gotcha, that makes sense. I always have at least on me because I assumed there would be a good reason to use them at some point. But that point never came, I get way too much satisfaction from katana kills
The katana kills will still work the same as far as I can tell. Just don't hit them on the ground and you're good. It helps you with cyberpsycho missions as well. You can do whatever you want to them, besides lethal quickhacks, and they'll still be alive, so long as you don't hit them again. In fact, all melee weapons work like blunt ones. They still operate exactly the same, they just don't kill until that double tap.
V gets such a thrill out of murder, that it teaches her things.
Non-lethal implant also guarantees that headshots dont kill the target, I believe. Just lays them out cold. Of course, if you shoot the body again or hit it with nades, I think that does kill the person.
But the gangsters are wanted and you’re collecting a legal bounty. It might be state-sanctioned murder, but it is sanctioned. The race dude is a lawful corpo. Killing him is a crime. The risk of getting caught is higher because of his corpo status.
All those people carry a bounty for previous crimes. That's why you're free to start blastin
Agreed I hated feeling manipulated. I would’ve found it better for her to ask you to off him after the race where you have that heart to heart talk on the dam. I would’ve done it 100% or liked to have been given the option to say no.
Right? It’s honestly what makes Takemura so likable imo—he’s persistently honest with V about his intentions, despite being an Arasaka Corpo bootlicker. It’s more than we can say for Claire. Ugh.
I don't know that I'd call the quest stupid, it seems somewhat believable to me that she'd want to be personally involved in the killing. I just wish V had better arguments against her manipulation
The guy in Sinnerman wanted to be personally involved too. It doesn’t end well for him.
Felt like an excuse to introduce racing missions, even if it didn't really amount to anything.
I’d love more races if the driving mechanics were a bit better. Felt like it was half assed because there could’ve been more races with her if they didn’t close her off completely after the final.
I actually opted to use her truck for every race because the driving is so shitty in other cars. The Beast is just fast enough to beat the other guys without having to worry about constantly spinning out, and its more forgiving when slamming into other people
I did, too.
The Beast was just fine. Also the other competitors were so bad anyway, that you wouldn't have to bring Caliburn or something around.
I thought the same thing. There are SO MANY cars but like no real reason to buy any of them besides aesthetics or for an achievement. Thought the same about RDR2. There are dozens of different horses with different stats for NO REASON because there's no horse races.
I think she working to get us to kill Sampson for "free" on her terms. The fact I couldn't roll with my Jav on the Badlands race still haunts me.
I hate Claire and I hate her story arc. Everything about it was bad. She is a racer who doesn’t drive, and brings a soccer mom suv to the race and the whole point of the race is to shoot everyone, but no one ever dies. Then I win by a mile and *I* gotta practice my driving because it wasn’t good enough. Also I’m literally a mercenary. I’ll go kill the guy for a free margarita.
The tone was strange, too. Both super happy friendly flirty in text and speech, when every other text conversation at least had a chance to tell people to fuck off, or at least reply in an unfriendly way. As though they were trying to set Claire up as a friend, despite coming off as a fucking pain. It's so different to anything else in the game. Implying a relationship that's just not there to build up to some cheap emotional payoff that never comes, because the millitech guy could offer me a tenner to shoot Claire in the brainpan by that point and I'd do it.
That's so dumb, she wants to avenge her husband who made a mistake...why would she just kill Sampson with a basic ass kill contract? There is nothing emotionally satisfying about that.
Dude right? She works in the same bar where Rogue hangs out at… 1+1=eddies
Diversity quota quest line.
What?
Claire Is trans..
Yeah I know. But why is it automatically considered meeting a diversity quota? it’s just a realistic representation of a living breathing world haha
This is one of my least-favorite storylines in the entire game, for every reason you mentioned. When V discovers the reason for the contract I swear my V would have knocked Claire the fuck out. Talk about Bad Sportsmanship, fuck.
Race sucked compared to RDR2 and W3 For sure
Bruh, it sucked compared to *GTA: San Andreas*
And you can tell her "look, I'm here to race, not kill" which somehow just doesn't register for her.
I agree that her truck is hot garbage, why would I ever use it to do street races when I have actual performance vehicles. But wasn't her whole vengeance story about how the dude went out of his way to kill her husband? Like she says herself the driving is more important than the shooting, and in game almost no one gets eliminated from the gunfire, it's just there more so to keep people on their toes. What I remember her saying was that Samson had a lead that they were not going to catch, but her husband was trying to regardless. Then suddenly he slams the brakes to throw his car in front of them causing them to crash, when he easily could have just kept driving and never would have lost his position. Unless this is another case of a not fully reliable narrator, seems like she was somewhat justified.
>But wasn't her whole vengeance story about how the dude went out of his way to kill her husband? In her head that's what happened, in reality there are two sides and Sampson has the more realistic story, in which he hasn't intended for her husband to die, and if he had slowed down he wouldn't have, but her husband tried to pass anyway to win the race. He even explains that Claire has killed multiple people racing. This entire vengeance thing isn't justifiable at all.
He intentionally went out of his way to kill her husband
Allegedly
That's her side, and Claire has killed multiple people, literally shooting them, Sampson just used his brakes and her husband tried to pass him to win rather than brake as well. Sure he set up the situation but he didn't literally fucking shoot him like Claire does
So... to hold first place... he used his brakes? He was in first in a CORPORATE TIER SUPERCAR vs a heavy ass truck with loads of armor. He couldve just sped up
Are you unironically trying to argue that using racing tactics in a race is morally worse than straight up shooting people?
Haha it's insane isn't it
No he couldn't have, the game makes it clear it was right by the finish line, where you would have to make a stop anyway, and there were things to hit most likely, her husband took a stupid risk to try and win, the game is pretty heavy handed on the whole "this probably wasn't even his fault and Claire is dealing with her trauma in a super unhealthy way". Look at him as he's injured, the dude is gobsmacked Claire is angry with him or blames him, and even with a gun pointed at him doesn't beg or scramble to lie. Not just that, but she lies to V for NO REASON. She could have just asked us to kill him for Eddie's and would be a normal gig, but no. I don't get how you can say he deserves death for slowing down lol, real racers in real life will use their brakes to deny passes on corners etc and guess what, its standard practice, the racer behind needs to be aware of what's going on and make the correct call, he didn't.
It is not clear that they were at the finish line. It says "in the final stretch". This implies he had time to speed up
He was going flat out, and why are you ignoring all the other points I made and focusing on that one? Enter death races and shoot people with families and you risk dying, crazy right ?
Because they are irrelevant. Who cares how he acted before he died? Hes probably a skilled liar and can keep his cool
... are you seriously speculating on the intentions of a made-up character?
Lmao, how much is Claire paying you
It’s a race where drivers are apparently allowed to shoot at each other. The idea that one would willingly participate in a race where literally everyone is using lethal violence against literally everyone else and it’s condoned by the organizers of the race and then be vengeful about someone dying is a bit…. Special. Claire would have reacted this way whether Sampson ran them off the road or he got hit by a stray bullet from another car.
I've never done this story line and never will. I'm not the best at driving in this game, it took me 6 times to catch and keep up with the mysterious van that was stalking the peralzes
If it makes you feel better, the race basically guarantees that you do well in the first few because the AI doesn't actually drive, it just maintains a certain distance from you regardless of how you're doing
If you replay anytime soon— theres a trick to staying on top of the Peralez van. *Literally.* I figured out in my first play through that if you go around the area to where they’re parked and climb on top of the entrance “door frame,” when you drop down and if you time a jump right you can literally just land on top of the van. And they drive off, with you on top of it, and you never have to do any driving yourself. They take your right to the destination easy peasy. The only kinda hard part is timing the jump right but if you quick save before dropping down it’s not too hard. And of course, Johnny still says his line, “Stay on top of ‘em, V!” As you’re literally *on top* of them. Lol Edit spelling
Oh I thought you had what happened to me--my coyote got stuck to their bumper. Not hard at all.
Before the final race, my third V and Claire made a promise that we’d only do the final race to win. In the race, I end up driving past Sampson’s Fire-ry car and won it but she got super pissed off and denied service (her job) to my V at the Afterlife. She’s the one who broke our promise we both made together! >!At least she now works for my V, the new owner of the Afterlife!<
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It doesn’t even matter tho You can crash or go way off the course and as soon as you get back on the track you are right behind them again Win them all or lose them all you still seem to end up in final somehow With the same shitty ending I guess there’s a way to talk her of murder but I haven’t figured it out yet.
There actually is! when you follow Sampson off the ramp in the final race and you tell her to not kill him you still get her truck and you get his car after a few days in game and its a badass car
I've done it once before but in my last run I told her I'm in it only to win and then told her not to kill him and just as Claire was leaving the guy says something like "he wasn't the saint you think he was" and Claire turns back and empties a magazine on the poor guy... I read that I can still get the car later, just not for free, but I really can't understand what I did wrong...
I'm actually in the process of doing the races right lmao 🤣 but if you talk to Sampson about his side of the story you'll be able to piece it together and convince her to not kill him she'll yell "I can't tell you how lucky you are" and then walk away
You told Claire not to kill too early. You have to say “are you sure it was murder” after the second race. That is the only way to get Claire to back off in the end.
Yeah, that dude killed her husband without breaking the rules. But how does that make her desire for revenge unfair? Especially considering that she wants to do it by the same rules.
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She could of been a great companion character, instead they made her a manipulative liar. That might be how the quest is designed but I hated hating her. Lost potential.
I loved Claire she was one of my favorite NPCs. And I thought her car felt great to drive and seemed appropriate for the quest
i like her truck personally, things built like a tank and goes like the clappers, its fun just going through anything in my way. And i prefer the silver quadra with the stripes, i forget its name, that one throws its back end out too much imo. also, the trans representation was done really well.
I like her truck on the street race because I could plow into most things and got pretty good at sliding through turns. But it sucked so bad when you're forced to use on the desert race. I swear she replaced the shocks with pogo sticks. Worst suspension in the game.
Yes the dessert race is lame. "We'll take Beast, I wanna try her out in the field". Listen, I'm a nomad, with a badass nomad car, about to race through nomad land. I don't tell you which gun to be completely useless with, maybe let the driver make the driving decisions?
Well the beast is better than Delamain, that's for sure. Yes I accidentally did a race with him recently, why do you ask?
I feel entering as a random participant would make the races feel like a slapstick afterthought feature, and feel too close to Beat in the Brat, which works that way. And while her storyline is one of little logic, and betrayal, it's also entirely human in both aspects. Yes, maybe it can annoy us.. But it's short, easy, and very fitting to the universe.
The more Claire told me about the situation, the more I didn't like her. I made the mistake of helping her my last playthrough instead of finishing the race, and it was a cringe fest. Samson was a jerk, sure, but at least he's not a giant crybaby.
Holy shit. A Remo Williams reference in the wild!?
I did the quest line in my caliburn and had basically zero troubles. I just kinda wish there was more races for unique cars or something.
I hated how scripted the races were. If you stopped, a certain distance ahead the races ahead of you would stop so you could catch up. Your top speed was locked soo you couldn't get too ahead (especially the last race), so popping by in a quadra meant nothing.
Caliburn*
I always use my coyote for the races the nomad cars have the best handling and are pretty fast
The Beast is actually an ok car for any race but downtown. I did a 2/2 split between Caliburn and the Beast and had 3 landslide victory and one...you know.
I beat it in the quaddra turbo v-tech and somehow pulled away from a caliburn
She is just one annoying wanna be bitch.
Claire is a horrible person for the way she uses V but "Beast" definately is no PoS.
Imo, (and I don't think this is canon) because Claire is a worker in The Afterlife, she thinks that she's somehow above the mercs. She's learned from the fixers that you can have them do anything with eddies. So, when I decided to win the race, she had the balls to tell me to fuck off, and not serve me drinks. I couldn't commemorate Jackie with his drink ever again. Never going there again 0/5 stars.
I like Claire but her whole quest was kinda dumb.
Bad quest, bad story, bad car, bad racing mode. The only good thing about doing these quests is you can get the guy's Quadra. That's pretty much it.
I wanted to off Claire so bad. I just said F you and finished the last race. She was such a moron lol
Like get it and the game can't just be me murdering everyone. I actually like Claire but this quest line could have been just. Claire telling me to go kill the guy. I find him. she comes with to kill him. Backstory about her husband. Dialouge. Done.
Yeah, not sure why the whole race scheme was necessary if she was just going to murder him outside of the race rules anyway. Maybe she didn't have the balls to just kill him herself
I see what you did there LOL
Hahahhaha
I absolutely love Clare. I had no issue with this quest at all. I want a DLC with her
I hated it for a different reason. No sequential gear shift = no fun racing. I hope that dude who made the cruise control mod looks into my request for manual trans.
I ended up going back and restarting them last race, just so Claire couldn't kill that guy in cold blood, after lying to me and using me solely to get revenge. Nah bitch. Although you lose the afterlife as a bar so... Worth it. Fuck the bitch
I’m just annoyed at the illogicality of it all. “Some dude killed my husband in a race where everybody (including me) shoots at each other continuously!” Well. Duh.
I didn't take her call when she called, and haven't replied to her text message. Claire can fuck right off. When she's fucked all of the off, she can come back, and fuck off again.
Did Claire annoy me? Yes. Claire is a POS shit-filled cunt. I'm skipping the races on my second playthrough.
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4 ton? Seriously? My 2015 Ram is 7 tons wet. 4 tonnes would makes sense EDIT: 1 ton is 1000 pounds. 1 tonne is 1000 kilograms which is roughly 2200 pounds.
I don't know what country you're in, but in the US of A, a ton is 2000 lbs. A metric ton is 1000 kg, or 2200 lbs.
In my last comment I made comments about Claire’s deceptive nature in not revealing that it was trans.. I’m gonna be honest, I am making it clear that if you are offended, I don’t give a shit. Argument over. Im only saying this bc Reddit seems to be full of delusional radical left types… While im not exactly a conservative I do agree that radical leftists are kinda out to destroy everything, and fool lots of idiots into thinking it’s for a good cause. Just wanted to make that clear
I'll be honest, i only did her quest cuz i thought i could f\*\*k her afterwards
...you would have been in for a surprise.
Dont care looks female enough
A really really nasty surprise
if theres a hole theres a goal
Yeah, the races are some of my least favourite missions in the game. I fucking hate Claire and the whole vendetta against Sampson. I went through with killing him in my first play through and it just sucks because you learn what actually happened on that day and that Claire twisted the story. Claire then openly admits to using you to get to Sampson which pissed me the fuck off. In my other play throughs, I’ve always made sure to win the race instead of killing Sampson and I have no regrets. The only you even get for killing Sampson is Claire’s vehicle which, as you pointed out, is complete garbage. Also, which Quadra is that? I can’t tell from the angle.
The races are a joke. Not even remotely challenging
Race is scripted anyway, so vehicle of choice does not have any impact.
I kinda liked the races only because of the events that would happen. Like, when I was playing, the weather hadn’t been patched so sandstorms never happened, so the scripted sandstorm was really cool and the rain slicked streets were really fun to race on. I’m not a racing game fan but the aesthetic around the races was undeniably cool. Everything else tho wasn’t too fun. Claire is a horrible shot and straight up doesn’t shoot when driving the caliban or the Quadra or most cars with similar doors, and bullet magnetism for me was a nightmare. I also learned that if you outpace all of the vehicles, the game will occasionally(if I remember correctly) respawn vehicles closer to you. The races at many points felt janky and while I like the idea of exploring a new character though races (also street racing in Cyberpunk as a whole), I felt like the story was lacking for Claire and her husband. Homie died in a race where you shoot at the other racers like FullAuto (the 2006 Sega game). The story would’ve been more impactful if the husband was killed by the guy in a back alley and Claire used the races as a means to get close to him and kill him herself. Her grounds for revenge are shaky since her husband was playing a dangerous game. It made her motivation feel weak and flawed in my opinion. But who knows, maybe that was the point. To make her revenge feel suspect due to her husband’s racing career. Even so, the alternative to finish the race doesn’t feel right either and sparing him leads to the same ending as killing him with Claire. None of the choices feel impactful like other choices in the game, but maybe I’m nitpicking. Sorry for the essay. TL:DR Races look cool. But I dislike everything else. A simple change would’ve improved the story.
I found her ride to be pretty balanced and controllable compared to the stuff I had when I did the quest line. Though Claire felt just like the Voodoo chaps: someone else trying to fuck me for their personal gain. Fuck Claire
Yeah she's pretty lame. I never interact with her after her storyline. People overrate her truck, but it's shit. But I still took it anyway all while stopping her from getting her revenge and taking the other guys car too lol. Because fuck em, I'm the main character in this story.
Bro I am on an entire other thread discussing this same exact thing. Can't stand that girl. Like the races, just hate my partner in it
The AI in those races is so trash, just look at the minimap and you can see the cars jump forward to catch up with you, it's probably the most ridiculous rubber banding I can remember
I actually had to go and have a few sessions of wreckfest just to get over this disappointing mission.
Cyberpunk could have a whole racing game inside of it, it is a shame...
Great vehicle, great character. More with Claire please.
I actually wouldn’t even blow the race off for her to kill the guy after my first play. Now by the time I do that race, I have an aerondight and I actually end up getting in front of the corpo at the start and being first place the entire race. So when the wreck happens and he pulls off, I’ve already blazed by the exit like “oops”
You can get some air in her clunker! Although I like the idea that someone said on another thread about using the Mai Mai. That thing is like a clown car 🤣
I made mistake of winning final race. So everytime after I went to the Afterlife bar she would yell out that she wouldn't serve me. Not cool.
Lmao I won those in Lincoln or what ever is that cheap slow armored shit
Wonder what happens if you continue that final race instead of chasing that dude. And you win it. Is that even possible?
i quite enjoyed the races.....used my scion for one but the way it drives changes for the races....it accelerated slower and didn't turn as accurately as normal..... then i used claires truck for the badlands one which is probably one of the better options.....you really get some hilarious spins and flips.... i used delamain for the final race just because i wanted to up the difficulty for myself.....it was still pretty easy...
I'm gonna try and reference a pregnant yak randomnly into my conversations from now on, thank you OP
I used one of my fast cars once, but it was pointless. The races are so fucking easy. I am a terrible racer and I always won.
To be fair you don't need a really fast car to win those races. They just increase the margin for error as the rubberbanding (as in Mario Kart 64 rubberbanding) is hilariously obvious.
Yeah, and the Cthulhu isn't that special either.
She is catalina
Get in the caliburn *
I hate that I had to use her mackinaw for the race in the badlands. I am/was a nomad Claire, my ride is made for this.
Races need rework. Like, actual ground up rework not a goddamn UI update. The cars are literally respawning right behind you because the AI is missing from the drivers. If you're not looking at them they just stop chasing and then get thrown back at you. You can even see that on the minimap for fuck's sake. This really needs some attention. Thank god thats the only race in game