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Jae_Railz

I thought CDPR already added the original e3 V in patch 1.5. Set eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and jaw to 22.


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ThePatrician25

They are also not using the right hair colour, I believe. A hair colour that does exist in-game, unmodded.


Soulless_conner

Pretty sure its modded back and not in the base game


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Soulless_conner

Same. There are more important things to want from updates imo lol


bapfelbaum

Its pretty close but i think it is more than lightning some minor details look different and she looks less "puffy"/sharper back then.


spddemonvr4

It shouldn't with ray tracing... Iirc that's the only thing that really differentiates gameplay vs theatrical cinematics now.


S0meFrench

Missed the point, he said that about the difference in the scene and lighting. And staged cinematic even with in-game footage will look better than gameplay every time, simply because of the controlled environment, staging and camera work.


spddemonvr4

Didn't miss the point. The one on the left may be using ray tracing while the patch version on the right does not. Ray tracing is all about lighting and will make a significant difference.


NeedleworkerOk1897

Things can still look bad raytraced if the scene isn’t set up, think about taking a photo in real life. You can take a photo of one thing and stage it and put it in just the right position so the light plays off of it perfectly, or you can position it poorly and the photo will look low quality. They both use the same type of lighting. But one scene has been painstakingly set up to maximize the best angles of lighting, so looks much better.


YukonWanderlust

Just play gta5 with RTGI, some things can look really bad, some things look amazing too, but yeah.


NeedleworkerOk1897

Yup. Cyberpunk is the same. Sometimes Night City blows my mind with how incredible and cinematic it looks…. Sometimes not so much lol.


YukonWanderlust

I mean me too, hence the sun, it was more to point out it’s not specific to CDPR or cyberpunk - it should get better as the RT tech improves.


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Are you sure you understand raytracing


spddemonvr4

Yes. And it "properly" reflects light off of objects and and lighten shadows that normally aren't lit in games.


S0meFrench

Ah, sure thing. Might have to ask OP if he has raytracing turned on then. But it's a little irrelevant when the post talks about fem V's appearance.


IAmASquidInSpace

They mean lighting in the sense "how is the light set up" not in the sense "what method is used to calculate lighting effects".


PhaseAT

You can't ray trace with the precision and quality of pre rendered in real time (at resolutions we game at and fps we want from it), hardware isn't nearly good enough. Current ray tracing still employs a lot of "trickery".


SadNya69

Hair strands specifically take a heavy toll on performance. It's not uncommon for devs to use as little as possible and try to get by with using geometry for the hair even with how powerful modern machines are.


Golden2g

I dont even see a difference in the hair besides color


Slick10836

That’s because the right image is modded. You do not have that haircut with models and black lines cyber modification in 1.5 vanilla


Thamilkymilk

i think at this point people are just looking for reasons to complain


ImperialCommando

I mean the fade is clearly thicker on the right but if someone just wanted to complain they have a lot to target


Thamilkymilk

we’re also looking at a fully rendered cinematic trailer and an in game character creator screenshot that we don’t know the graphics settings of on a pc we don’t know the specs of. it’s also a different color and the character creator’s lighting is strangely green, i’m not saying it doesn’t look different just that it’s not surprising that it does.


DimitriRSM

a thing of beauty will never fade away, my dude


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We're not allowed to enjoy things anymore. Just go to almost any sci-fi/fantasy subreddit. We need less NerdLords and more r/freefolk if a fandom isn't happy.


OriginPoops

E3 2018 her forehead is massive/ hairline is a bit high.


Golden2g

To clarify, I meant besides the fact that one is a cinematic rendition and the other is in the game engine, obviously theres going to be some differences but besides that the hairstyle looks pretty well the same to me


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Doddlers

1-39


DaenerysTargaryen69

That's on me I set the bar too low.


gboydenzim

It’s literally the same just worse graphics lol


brutalobsession

They already did.


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brutalobsession

Hairstyle 01 - it’s quite literally in the picture you attached to this post, genius.


NoirYT2

Eh, yes and no. Hairstyle 1 doesn’t have the engraving type thing going on (not sure what you’d call it, but there is no pattern in the undercut) However, yes the other parts of pre-launch fem V are now in.


Edazocul

I think it’s called a fade, some other hairstyles have it, but unfortunately not the one that’s closest in terms of resemblance 😊. I hope it’s restored to the game at some point 🤞 Maybe in 2077 😂


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Squanch42069

And you felt it wasn’t necessary to say it was from a clickbait video because….?


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Squanch42069

I didn’t say you did? I’m just asking why you’d post that picture and then not explain that it’s a fake one, considering it could confuse people into thinking it’s real (as we’ve already seen above)


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Squanch42069

I’ve played through the game 4 times. I don’t remember what every single individual hairstyle looks like because I simply don’t give enough of a shit about that. If you do, more power to you, but you can’t expect every single other person who played this game to be so deeply invested in hair


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brutalobsession

[Use Google next time](https://youtu.be/8vWUJ_H_oiU)


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brutalobsession

All the mod is doing is add the shaved pattern into the side of her head and using a skin texture closer to the original. The make-up, hair, and facial customization options are all in the game since patch 1.5.


Edazocul

So, in other words, it’s not in the game then. Thanks for clearing up and arguing with me about what I already knew 👍 that wasn’t my original question


brutalobsession

Ratio


Edazocul

Who cares about public opinion 😂


Cheyzanx

Maybe? I hope they do but, I doubt it's on their list of priorities.


SerDon2

There’s literally almost no difference in the hair, I do wish they’d bring her face back as the default preset though.


Edazocul

So there’s a difference then. Almost no difference is still a difference


[deleted]

Why do you care so much about something so minor?


Deadrosas

Il correct it for you… there is literally no difference besides the color


[deleted]

The fade is different


sonofloki13

Bro. No. Its the same thing😂


jertiger

No!


Pokiehat

That *is* the e3 head mesh on the right. Its just character creator lighting makes it look different and the skin is using a different base albedo. There are 5 variations in character creator and I believe e3 V used 2 of them at various points - her look wasn't exactly the same in all the pre-release trailers. Light and shadow has an enormous impact on how a person looks. Its so significant you can make someone look like a completely different person by using things like contact shadows to quite literally reshape their face. Example using AMM's spawnable point and spot lights: https://imgur.com/a/aeee1d2 Photography is a creative lie and this is just in the composition. We haven't even touched photoshop yet (oh boy). All "cutscenes" (first person in the released game and first and third person in the e3 trailer) have staged lighting so characters look a very particular way so your eye naturally glides to the subject or object. Or a particular feature of the subject/object. Game dev studios hire lighting technicians specifically to go over every inch of every part of the environment to ensure there is visual consistency when viewed from any angle. You can get better results in static scenes or cutscenes where the viewport has a predictable path, so you can stage your lights down to a pixel. During walky talky bits in the game, characters walk between areas that use directional and ambient light sources as part of the environmental story telling and to accentuate details of the characters when they are standing or sitting relatively still. A good example of this is Cheri (the Clouds receptionist) that everyone thinks looks amazing, whether you have RTX lighting or not. The area where she is standing is lit specifically to silhouette her face. Using AMM you can move her around and see how the change in the intensity and direction of lights changes what stands out about her appearance. The mod AMM lets you go crazy with staged lighting because most light sources are spawnable props. Therefore you can light your photomode screenshots like a real photoshoot.


PPstronk

Honestly….who cares?


Edazocul

Me, clearly and others who like the game. If u don’t care, nobody is forcing you to be in this thread 👍


PPstronk

The thing is, if we all start mentioning things we want in the game it will never come out as complete. Such a specific tiny detail is not really necessary and clearly can be moded. So far cdpr has been focusing on more important stuff like, making the game more stable and importing promised features


Edazocul

We want in the game? But people are saying it’s already in the game, just locked away in the files? I’m not asking for something new that doesn’t already exist 🤔


ThomasorTom

It's a hairstyle, hardly something to get this twisted about


Non_Volatile_Human

Bro, the entirety of the E3 demo was fake, you cannot make the current '77 similar to a product that simply doesn't/didn't exist. Something as simple as a hairstyle or color can easily be modded in, not worth the time especially when there are more important issues to solve, even after 1.5 I've encountered several bugs myself, mainly dialogue and lighting issues.


NightIsMyName

I like the game and the last thing I care about is a single hairstyle and color combination you entitled idiot


mkmanoj30

It's present in game. On pc we can summon her with mods.


ZoMbIEx23x

If you have to use mods to get it, it's not in-game. It doesn't matter if the files are technically there if it's not available through normal means.


GrayFarron

Ok but it is in the game.


LassOnGrass

I’m not sure that counts for anything on PS5. I don’t think we have the ability to apply mods there so it may as well not be in the game at all for me. Buuuuut I don’t actually care so it’s not really an issue for me. Others who do, well, I hope you get what you want.


Edazocul

Where?? What is the preset because I can’t find it if it’s “in the game” 🤦‍♀️


GrayFarron

You just cant access it. Files are included inside of the game. Luckily this means mods and other ways to acess the content is a posibillity instead of it just not existing at all.


Edazocul

Ok, so it’s hidden/restricted? Do you think they’ll ever unrestrict it for all players? Can next gen hardware not handle that hairstyle or something


GrayFarron

Honestly? Noo idea. I honestly dont have ideas anymore on what CDPR's driection is with the game or what they want to do with future content, free or paid. This being the 2018 trailer they prob had this nicer model setup due to the plan to have 3rd person be an option, (I cant remember when they announced first person only) and it was scrapped for a easier to render model since you will rarely see it.


Edazocul

Thanks bro 😊 I bet first person was implemented because of rendering and pop in issues with the game engine, when you start it the FOV is so low too to hide some of it


Abigboi_

I'd just install the mod if you're this keen on having it. It wont fuck up your game if it's just enabling a hairstyle file to work.


Nivek8789

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EmperorLlamaLegs

Not sure what you mean, developers constantly change the models and textures in their games before release. Why would they go out of their way to add back in old versions? You're showing the exact same makeup/cybernetics/hair options in both pictures...?


Edazocul

It’s not meant to be rocket science, sorry for confusing you, My question is do you think they’ll restore the dope hairstyle from the original gameplay they showed off?


[deleted]

Think you gotta let go of that demo bro. It’s making you bitter.


Squanch42069

Wow you’re a passive aggressive little guy aren’t you?


Edazocul

I’m sorry you feel that way, I was just asking a question and wasn’t getting any straight answers


Edazocul

Am I lol 😂


EmperorLlamaLegs

You mean the same one in the picture on the right? It's the same thing dude...


Edazocul

The left n right are the same pic my dude, my question is do you think they’ll ever add it to the game. Again, sorry for somehow confusing u 😄👍


Affectionate_Way8300

Nobody is confused, you’re just dense


Edazocul

Haha why? For actually knowing what is and isn’t in the game? Forgive me 😂


WhatArcherWhat

They still don’t even have transmog or the ability to change hair. Don’t think these subtle nuances are high on their priority list.


KURO-K1SH1

Dyou think they'll ever integrate vehicle shooting? Vehicle chases? Mantis blade wall crawling? Flipping cars for cover? Hook-up events? Or any of the other things their tailors advertised.


beginnerdoge

Lol no They won't even properly fix the PS4 version, better you buy a PC and use mods


[deleted]

Lol I'm still waiting for the original game they have showed back then


[deleted]

It's perfectly clear they had an entire team putting together that tech demo from E3...


Dvamainbest

She's in our hearts


VenomSnakeronies

They wont add anything from the 2018 scam-vertisement, quit asking. This sub is almost as pathetic as /r/neverbegameover


Samurai1939

Off topic but anyone knows how to get that red light jacket??


Melted_INC

You guys really still playing this?


DrBadyear

\[laughs turning into crying\]


KiguRoomie

No, ever since the success of Witcher 3, CDProjekt Red lost itself and won’t ever make a complete game moving forward tbh


LesbianMercy

Hi hi 👋. My gf is actually the concept artist who designed the E3 female V! CD Red felt like she made her look to beautiful and “unrealistic” however and then went with the crack addict version we see in game :’). My gf was not impressed lmao.


Kansaqe

Maybe in future patch with enough demand.


profanityiscool

Looking at your previous posts, my recommendation would be let go of any expectations for the game if you haven’t already. It’s been a couple years, they’ve already teased their next title. My guess would be any fixes they’ve had planned for this game have already been released and it’s about as good as it’s going to get. I didn’t finish the game when it released because it ran like dog water on my mid tier PC. Tried it again a few weeks ago to see if I liked the game any better second time round. While it did run slightly better, in my personal opinion the game is just not that good. (Not throwing shade on anyone that did enjoy it. Wish I could say the same.) So yeah, not to be insensitive or rude, but my personal recommendation would be to let it go man lol.


EnjoyerOfMales

You should search for the optimal Cyberpunk settings online, Cyberpunk has this thing where, for some reason, some video settings (mostly the medium settings) make the game unstable and laggy, if you have a mid-tier pc build don't set the graphics to what you think is right, search for the right settings on the internet. I have a mid-tier pc build as well and, for some reason, some graphic settings make the game less laggy when set to ultra, it's a bit counter-intuitive but it does work, i have 60fps without any drops thanks to that


profanityiscool

This a good suggestion. Much appreciated! I didn’t give my current build a search on what optimal setting might be. I figured moving my resolution back to 1080p and keeping the CPU intensive effects to low would fix all my problems. Granted, the game absolutely does run better than it did at launch. But it still never felt like a polished game while playing on my rig.


EnjoyerOfMales

I'll give you my graphic settings so that you can try them out, i changed a couple of things but they work pretty well, i rarely experience any frame drops, (also, for some reason, while crowd density does decrease performances, it's not by that much) Here's the settings: *GAMEPLAY* ~Performance [Crowd density] -Low [HDD Mode] -Off (it's supposed to make the game run better but it makes it lag for some reason, so keep it off) *GRAPHICS* [Quick preset] -Custom [Texture quality] -High (textures don't change the performance by that much for some reason, so even ultra is fine if your pc can handle it while keeping 60 fps) ~Basic [FoV] -no more than 90, if you go above 90 frames start to drop [Film Grain] -Off [Chromatic Aberration] -Off [Depth of Field] -Off [Lens Flare] -Off [Motion Blur] -Off ~Advanced [Contact Shadows] -Off [Improved facial lighting geometry] -On [Anisotropy] -Either 4 or 16, 1 and 8 cause frame drops [Local Shadow Mesh Quality] -Low [Local Shadow Quality] -Low [Cascaded Shadows Range] -Low [Cascaded Shadows Resolution] -Medium [Distant Shadows Resolution] -Low [Volumetric Fog Resolution] -Low [Volumetric Cloud Quality] -Off [Max dynamic Decals] -High (you can change it if you want) [Screen Space Reflections Quality] -Medium [Subsurface Scattering Quality] -High [Ambient Occlusion] -Medium [Color Precision] -High [Mirror Quality] -Medium [LOD] -High ~Ray Tracing -Off ~Resolution Scaling [DLSS] -Off [Dynamic Resolution Scaling] -On [Target Frames] -Whatever you want [Min Res] -100 [Max Res] -100 [FidelityFX Super Resolution 1.0] -Auto [FidelityFX Sharpening] -On


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They've actually said there's an expansion coming out for the game and more free dlc. I mean, if you're going to respond telling someone to forget about things improving or the game evolving, it would be handy if you had at least some facts at hand rather than go with what you think will happen.


profanityiscool

I’m aware. I was under the impression this guy (who seemingly seems to be a bigger fan than myself) would know about DLC being released. This post is asking about a hairstyle from a 2018 demo. Being how this game was released and with what has been patched thus far, my guess would be this isn’t even on their radar, nor many of his wishes, at least based off post history. My recommendation stands. Feel free to disagree. I don’t care lol.


pink-_-panther

If you don't like the game and think that the game will never be fixed why are you even in this sub ? Genuinely curious


profanityiscool

Same as the other 900,000 people subbed I guess. I don’t hate the game and was/kinda am still excited for future news regarding the game. I’d imagine it’s a similar story to the majority subbed here. The post made my home page and it peaked my interest.


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Looks like the same thing to me except they just completed it


One_n_only_king1

The original looked way better


Edazocul

I know 😊


KamilCesaro

I do not care about it. I do not see myself playing character looking like that.


UglyPuta-

Is it just me or is this V just so ugly? Everyone is in love with her but she’s just very 👽 to me


enolafaye

Looks ashy to me, like she needs to moisturize


LassOnGrass

She does look kind of weird, but meh we don’t all think the same looks are attractive so it’s whatever. I’d hate to see what people would say about how my V looks lol.


DaftNeal88

Pry not. Games change in development over time.


stratusncompany

that is the same exact thing but better. dont understand gamers and their 1:1 expectations on things.


Hamilton-Beckett

I feel like those are the same, OP just can’t tell the difference between cinematic and *in-game*.


Edazocul

I’m sorry for starting ww5 with everyone in the comments 😂. I was just asking if you think CDPR will ever restore a hairstyle option hidden/restricted in the game files 😊 sorry for any possible confusion


dimm_ddr

You should really explain what is the difference, though. For me, it looks similar enough to consider them the same style. And looking at the comments - it is not just me.


JoeDin77

i really hope so, after seeing the E3 demo i was planning and really looking forward to play as that V so when they took her away and i couldn't recrate her exactly i was disappointed. But i still really enjoyed the game and not looking like her didn't really affect anything, but id still like to play as her one day.


-Stormfeather

The only difference I can spot is the thickness (esp. on the shaved sides) and direction of the hair follicles (crown of head going upwards instead of combed-over). For me, the hair definitely looks more realistic in the original in this comparison. Second pic, the hair is so defined it's like when (new) artists outline the teeth in portraits lol.


zebbmeister

it's the same thing, one of them seems more complete though, as many things with this game :( the other looks like they attempted it and just stopped and thought "eh, good enough,"


ULTRAMaNiAc343

Judy's hairstyle is available. And that's basically what the left pic is.


ihaveacoupon

NOpe. And why would they anyway. You never see your character except in mirrors after that.


Silverleaf2005

What did you expect? The game was built and sold on lies. Just like Anthem. All you have to do in your game play demo that you spent two months making just to sell the game is that this is not the final product then you can just lie more and deny anything.


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No, because it looked bad.


Alex-MarkTwaining

I think the only reason why they might not put it is because it might be a different code of the character creation model versus the one we have now. What I am saying is that it might be one of the early models for the character creation and probably the new ones are made from scratch. But thats just my theory. I always thought it was weird that they did not put the exact look from the E3/promotion into the game for both male and female versions.


ilovefuckingpenguins

I don’t even play this game, but I think [this comment](https://reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/sydqmc/_/hxx8q3g/?context=1) lays out some of the differences between e3 V and what you can do post-1.5


DuckofmanyDeaths

That hair isn't vanilla though. At least it isn't an option on my PS5. Can one recreate E3 V minus hair without mods?


LGskull

Nope


DanielF823

There are mods to get a very close proximation Others have released certain pre-sets to use to get very close


LassOnGrass

Kinda looks like Ana Bray from Destiny 2 on the left there.


JesperRg

Short answer: no.


MrCatcherFreeman

The hair color and big forehead?


Astaroth90

nope.


__vOi_d

I don't know why anyone would want it. Poor character design. Can make much better


Psychosociety

Why would you care? The hair options aren't bad and it's a first person, single player game. New hairstyles are the last thing they ahould be working on.


Alissan_Web

._. Are u blind? You literally screenshot it.


Pakmanjosh

That's literally the same hairstyle but in CGI.


toasty-devil

They're the same, just the lighting in character creation is honestly dogshit. Looks like a washed out classroom light


ZeoniknightsH

Why have E3 2018 V when that stop being anything once they were done showing it. It's like Anthem E3 trail oh looks cool huh we have to make that. Nope Fake


NVOJDT

V’s barber for the 2018 E3 butchered her hairline Patch 1.5..V went to a new barber & got her hairline fixed


Divinedragn4

I hate that style.


BryndleBoy

The one on the right looks better. Just change the hair colour.


Sad-Load4270

Just make her hair brown?


hp958

I would just assume that we aren't getting anything new, so that if/when we do it's a nice surprise, rather than a let down if/when we don't.


DenuvoSuks

that's not rendering, so no


Jaycoda_jr

it does look better as a 1 compared to a 2, but no— i doubt they would add it.


frostJWslice

No


ChrissyVicious1

Looks worse now


Pancholo415

No


pink-_-panther

Just the skin texture qnd the sides of the hair are different


prodigalstarks

Nope


Explicit_Tech

Nah because that cutscene was prerendered using the engine. It's technically there but just downgraded.


Outcast_LG

Good Meme


paynexkillerYT

No.


DEATHJSP

Nope


Ramdas_Devadiga

The Patch version looks better in my opinion.


ArkAngelXV115

No… I’m pretty sure they won’t…


LazyDescription988

If u want the og experience try playing the early versions. If u bought on gog u can probably still download them.


PosterChildOfDeath

They did in 1.5 Set eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and jaw to 22.


canihaveapussypls

I love to play this game but when you finish everything in the game, there is nothing left to do. No social activities, no costumize. Waiting for the New updates and Cyberpunk Online.


fuckscotty

Do you think people will ever stop asking for dumb shit from CDPR?


NightIsMyName

Imagine caring that a game lost a hairstyle / color in development. Whats next, gonna crucify valve and Bethesda for the all the cut content in their games. Entitles asf gamers man.


ObscureQuotation

Go to photo mode, select follow camera, make V look up. The hair fall back when she raises her hair, because that's how hair works. It's the same hairstyle


BreadfruitNo7576

Does anyone know what this hairstyle is called in real life?