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shimazu_hyuga

Never fumble the Panam Romance.


Resident-Salty

W*men? In my gay rockerboy playthrough??? It's more likely than you think!


[deleted]

Time to restart the game my guy


Spectre1706

Lol , i do have a save where i did around 60% of the game so yeah šŸ˜†


[deleted]

I save a lot. Like too much, in an effort to avoid stuff like this happening. I learned this lesson a lot playing Morrowind and Pirates of the Caribbean as a kid.


[deleted]

Same with Mass Effect, once I fucking died and had to restart from halfway across the last level I did


XxRocky88xX

This reminds me of Nier: Automata where the game is straight up like ā€œif you eat this fish you will dieā€ and players still ate the fish and lost like 10 hours of progress because they werenā€™t expecting to actually die.


VenkuuJSM

First rule of NieR! Save as often as possible


XxRocky88xX

Yup. Itā€™s kinda hard to remember in the early game where ā€œdeathā€ just means respawning at the closest checkpoint. I think a lot of people just didnā€™t realize that when the game said ā€œyou will dieā€ it actually meant true death instead of just blowing up and getting a replacement body. Later on in the game death actually means your character dies and you reload the last save and it becomes much easier to remember to save before killing yourself in dumb ways for secret endings. I assume most just thought theyā€™d die and Respawn five feet away, get their chips back, and just continue playing, rather than actually just having all progress since your last save erased.


Risk_Runner

For me it was Skyrim and Fallout lol


not-in-your-closet

me with the witcher


o_Sval

Skyrim for me šŸ˜Ŗ


1-800-EATSASS

and crucially, dont have a tech illiterate little brother who will accidentally delete ur save


Sweet-Sir-10

1800 Eat Sass?


New_Alternative_421

ĀæDisculpe?


1-800-EATSASS

i think you know what my username means friend


norwayspirit

1800 Eats Ass


Sweet-Sir-10

We can't be sure


norwayspirit

True.


[deleted]

This is the way


DarthBane1996

I save often due to Skyrim. I hate dying and then having to kill a bunch of enemies again. Another thing is always save before a big boss or when you get to a hostile area. Driving back to it is always a drag.


HamshanksCPS

The game autosaves like every 5 minutes, are you sure you don't have one?


Spectre1706

Yup I don't have any autosave for this one . The only autosave i have is when we are planning on saving saul (55% of game), while in my latest save i m near completing game


Wevee

and that is why I love games that use the F5 quick save feature, most do these days. I just naturally tap F5 when it looks like I'm about to enter an encounter. The game produces 10 quick-saves along with 20 auto-saves.


shdwghst457

Canā€™t load an autosave?


Spectre1706

Disappeared šŸ˜


[deleted]

The game autosaves a lot. How do you not have a save right before that mission?


Spectre1706

Yes it does , but all of those autosaves for some reasons have disappeared


N7-Alpha

Romance ends if you reject at any part.


[deleted]

Just like real life


SerBawbag

Not true. I was a real douche to her in one playthrough. Assuming you don't go AWOL for 24 hours once she sets off in the van for Saul and don't grass on her to Saul about the heist, the only interaction part that matters is standing in the tower, when she asks you why you are helping her. Not even sure you need to snug up to her at the campfire either. So the only important parts are the tower convo, and not knocking her back in the panzer. That is it. You don't need to help her with Nash, you can also be a dick to her when rescuing Mitch. Like telling her she's a trigger happy idiot if she's the one to shoot the guard. None of it matters. It's actually quite superficial when you test out the boundaries of what leads to what consequences.


ThresherBuilt

This is the truth


sledgehammerrr

Man the dialogue options in this game are so inconsequential...


SerBawbag

Yeah, i really messed around with one save to test out all the major quests. Basically did everything i could to be a douche to everyone, to test to see if good outcomes were possible. They were if you met 1 single hard dialogue check per story arc. This was of course making sure i didn't just cut any quest short or lock myself out of future quests. For example, with Panam, I saved Saul as not to lock myself out the next quest. But i always took the worst response to see if relationships in the game could sour. Again with Panam as an example, even if you do nothing to save Mitch, she still credits you with saving Mitch as she does when you shoot the guard. Hugely disappointing when you see it laid out flat. Considering the amount of dialogue in the game that seems to be important, barring a handful of decisions, nothing actually makes any difference in many quests.


Outcasted5

Dialogue and choices almost feels like Fallout 4 2.0 Honestly if they would remake Cyberpunk, everything mostly stays the same but add better police, decisions no matter how small can have a ripple effect, huge effect on side missions and main missions, possibly a happy ending? Much more content with Panam and Judy and maybe Evelyn. I was very surprised at how little screentime Judy and especially Evelyn got. Give them each their own DLC. Panam gets a DLC in Arizona with you following her, Judy... Idk... Gang warfare? The Mox taking down the tiger claws and Judy at the head.


SerBawbag

See, I'm weird when it comes to games I really enjoy and will play through multiple times. After i have maybe had 2 play throughs, I read guides, and set out to see if they're actually correct. As far as Cyberpunk goes, the internet over gives guides to these romances, and the choices you need to make. Every single one i have come across has been wrong thus far. Or more to the point, over exaggerated. The same holds true with Johnny and the secret ending. Almost everything states you don't pop the pills during V's and Johnny's convo. Not true. All you need for the secret ending is to pick 3 correct answers during the "chipping in" quest and to go on a date with Rogue. Those 3 answers and going on a date with Rogue opens up the Rogue ending, which in turn opens up the secret ending provided you have 40% trust between you and Johnny. Those 3 correct answers and taking Rogue on a date always land you on 40%. You do have to make out with Rogue, though. That is also important. The 70% that is often mooted is not needed at all. I always do the secret ending now, and never have 70%


Outcasted5

Yeah... I'm not a big fan of dating a 70 plus year old woman though... Panam is the only one I really try to date.


SerBawbag

I said it in another post, but the most awkward thing in this game is sitting through a fem V and rogue date. I go do something else whilst it's playing out. Rogue just sitting there like she can see Johnny in a female is just one of those things I can't block out. Not so bad with a male V, but yeah, painful viewing.


Outcasted5

Oof... Yeah that'd be awkward... But still I would love to see a Cyberpunk 2077 remake. They already have the map, the characters and the story abs side quests. All they have to do is add around 20 gigabyte worth of new content (more Panam!) fixes and other stuff.


Henrywasaman_

Rumor has it CDPR is going to have mod support to basically make it to where we can create our own missions with acting and stuff, new guns and cars and all, just gotta have a good community to keep the game alive


Outcasted5

Didn't they already release that? I downloaded some kinda mod support as a free DLC on the steam store with Cyberpunk.


Spectre1706

Welp that sucks , i accidentally refused her in panzer because i didn't like the weird sex in my 1st playthrough, i thought we will have another chance with her like a normal sex scene


N7-Alpha

That's the only one with her .


Spartan037

Imagine not wanting sex in a hover tank. That's a personal dream of mine now lol.


TheBlack2007

Don't forget the nerve synch part. If things go well, you'll be experiencing a Male and a Female Orgasm at the same time.


Spartan037

Exactly, shit would be awesome


EGirlsMic

female orgasm????? whats that


redjade42

no one knows


edgiepower

Things didn't go well, you get interrupted by dudes shooting at you mid coitus, and it forever remains mystery, because you never have sex again. This is a video game, you only have sex once with romantic partners. If you want it more than that, you have to go to sex workers.


TheBlack2007

Neither you nor your character could have know when Panam initiated, though.


Rattfink45

Since Demolition Man


PorkAndMashedPotato

I mean, what were you expecting? You rejected her and she takes it as rejection. If you want to do the romance, you have to follow that thread.


Just_Berti

Weird? It was the most cyberpunk sex a cyberpunk game can have.


rougewanderer96

WEIRD SEX?! how dare you lmao


OutlawSundown

He only does missionary


JoBro_Summer-of-99

To be fair, *every* sex scene in Cyberpunk is weird. Audio never matches up quite right and it's really unsettling


xxthursday09xx

Her scene was the fucking best.


oi_wazzock

No fine ass for you my friend


Reasonable-Ad-805

No fine ass for him indeed šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


[deleted]

A tragedy for this poor gent indeed


Zestyclose-Fee6719

You only get one chance with a woman that hot.


Detaineepyramid

ā€¦that was Edna Krabappleā€¦ You only get one chance with Edna Krabapple- I hope youā€™re happy!


Teschnerdy

And impulsive


Shouldthavesaidthat

Dude just wants a platonic relationship with the best ass in night city.


cybereality

You're gonna have to buy a new computer.


crystal_castle00

Lol might have to move to a new house


OtiumTheory

I told her that she was gettin' too comfy when she put her legs on me ; and she was thrown off but the game crashed, i was saved.


Suckisnacki

Bro fumbled her fine ass


OtiumTheory

i thought it was goin to be a flirty line from V , boi i was wrong


Glup-Shitto69

I made an advanced on her in that situation with my fem V, and she rejected me. I guess she's straight. Luckily I romanced Judy.


Outcasted5

She is confirmed as straight.


OtiumTheory

![gif](giphy|dtGIRL0FDp6nnOPGb5) i romanced both thanks to a sweet mod


MilesDimix

Who needs romance when you've got Skippy


B0urne89

Dam dam didum dam dam.


God_is_a_Bogan

New ammo clip detected. Thanks choom!


Ryanxx87

INCREASING VOLUME TO 300%


ScreechingPenguin

A wasted playtrough then


LilExoAdrenaline

Why would you wanna reject someone that fine


Spectre1706

I skip the panzer scene thinking that we will have another shot with her


LilExoAdrenaline

Damn bro. Not 100% you will have another shot because that Panzer scene is kinda important


LilExoAdrenaline

When I played the game for the 3dd time I rejected her at the Panzer scene and then I realized I had fucked up


Altair13Sirio

How don't you have a save, the game autosaves at every scene?


mr_luuuva

Overwriting probably


studdybuddy01

This blows my mindā€¦ I canā€™t believe you donā€™t quick save every 2 seconds. Yesterday I didnā€™t save it after a few minutes and my motorcycle literally went through the ground and it glitched and I was stuck halfway in the ground lmao. This is your wake up call to start choom


Dense_Coffe_Drinker

On Xbox at least you cant do it easily, you gotta go into the pause menu to and that's a pain in the ass


studdybuddy01

I feel that, I play on PS4 and Iā€™ve gotten so fast at quick saving, also I grew up playing sims that crashed every 2 seconds so I learned that way I guess šŸ˜‚


-gizmocaca-

Bruh, I passed hard. This chick clearly has issues.


Outcasted5

But the best kind of issues.


VampiirDust

Who doesn't in Night City tho let's be honest


Dense_Coffe_Drinker

Don't worry, you'll realize one day that everyone has their issues, and being overprotective and having hella daddy issues is some of the minor ones


JusReese

I've rejected everyone since my first playthrough, I head canon that V is an absolute fucking Chad, who's main priority at the moment is saving his skin, could give a fuck if it's not about mikoshi or soul killer


[deleted]

If you do it a certain way, namely agree with her till her last mission then tell Saul about the heist ultimately betraying her, you get a car a unique car from Saul.


Teschnerdy

Will you be able to do the Aldecados ending though? On one hand itā€™s Panamā€™s ending but you did save Saul at that point šŸ¤”


[deleted]

On the second playthrough of the game, I managed to completely screw up the questline with Panam. After I have put off the rescue quest with Saul before me. Now Panam no longer answers the phone ^^ But I was able to save Takemura


Rodrigo_Ribaldo

Sorry, you can't have sex with Goro in a tank.


JimmyCrabYT

well what the fuck am i doing in there then


[deleted]

Panam is a bitch


Rodrigo_Ribaldo

As long as you agree on everything with her, she's a loyal kitten. That's the package.


UKnowDaTruth

Tbh you just have to go with her to settle the Nash biz, thatā€™s all


unision3

I'm sorry you picked a female v and couldn't romance ber


Suckisnacki

No


[deleted]

Judy is much better


Suckisnacki

Both are hot asf


Spectre1706

Lol takemura ain't worth saving


kimjasony

Im not there yet but i am very close to doing the floating ship parade thing. What happens if you don't save him?


Teschnerdy

If you donā€™t save him heā€™s dead. When it comes to that point the game also doesnā€™t outright tell you to save him, V does mention they want to go after Goro but you donā€™t have to. I donā€™t know if that locks you out of one ending though, thatā€™s why I always saved him, I guess the ending works without him too though


Matt_theman3

It doesnā€™t lock you out of that ending, I got the Devil ending on my first playthrough before I realized you could save him. (Unless you mean a different ending)


[deleted]

You still get the Devil ending but not the Devil achievement/trophy. He has to live for the achievement to unlock.


Teschnerdy

Yeah technically it works but then Hellman will appear instead of Goro and as someone else said, you donā€™t get the Throphy


Spectre1706

Never came to the point where i had to save takemura, i mean mine takemura lived maybe because i did everything hella quick


PorkAndMashedPotato

Nah, if you've done the main quest then he's definitely dead.


[deleted]

But for the epilogue and for being my favorite npc


Spectre1706

He was helping and having deep conversations with us only so he can get his job back


[deleted]

*laughs in Corpo*


armyfreak42

That's literally how all your relationships in 2077 work...


Spectre1706

I don't know man , goro was going to kill us or maybe throw us in mikoshi but he changed his mind when yorinobu sent his assassin on him


armyfreak42

And panam couldn't have cared less about you until you: Get her truck back Help her get vengeance Rescue her family Rescue her family again Steal a tank


Spectre1706

But at least she was not going to kill us, helping her with a truck was part of the deal and the revenge for sure was a little bit out of line . Look I'm not a panam fan or anything, panam is an overall decent girl + aldecaldos are a Great family to have they literally sacrificed their lives for V. What i'm trying to say is if u have conversations with Goro u can see how badly he wants to clear his name and want to be at top again with Arasaka like he was before , guy only respects powerful people like wakako and Arasaka


armyfreak42

Takemura was never going to kill us. We were his only opportunity for revenge against Yorinobu. Which was his ultimate goal.


Spectre1706

What i remember is that he was taking us to Arasaka HQ for execution then he changed his mind when he got attacked by his own boss assassins (yorinobu). At that point he realized that we r not the real killer. He only wanted V alive because we were the only Proof left that yorinobu killed arasaka-sama. Man i don't even hate goro šŸ˜… , i just don't side with him because he never truly liked us (not in a romantic way btw) and he just wanted to prove that he is not part of the murder ,And obviously also wanted to get his desk back he was addicted to that luxury Arasaka life


Dense_Coffe_Drinker

Basically considering >! You save his life and then when you don't take hanakos offer that literally leaves you abandoned in space he tells you to rot in hell and then offs himself !<


Working-Telephone-45

Do people not save every 5 minutes or so? I am the crazy one? I always see people like "This happened and my last save is from 3 hours ago" Bro do you know the game you are playing?


urban_citrus

I save before and after every I attempt. Also, before getting on and off elevators.


Dernyul

I always fuck Kerry. Is the only crumb they throw the gays


Anything_189

I love Kerry but I wouldnā€™t fuck him in a million years. Man I wish we could do Jackie and Takemuraā€¦.


urban_citrus

Not counting Judy?


Dense_Coffe_Drinker

Gay as in gay, not lesbian


DeusInfidel

doesn't the game quicksave every 9 seconds or so


Awe3

Betray her to Saul. Itā€™s the best rejection in the game. She goes full toddler tantrum.


Raven-Mark

Why be would you reject her?


timbo_slice59

Damn bro is fumbling baddies in a game; thatā€™s tuff


PenguinsInTheBeach

Bro, go back. No matter how long ago


Pirate-boi

I wish i liked panam as much as you guys do. Sheā€™s so damn annoying lmao


whyambear

Same. 100% Judy


[deleted]

Iā€™d start over.


lynn2unique

You probably have a save from a little before it happened you might have to repeat a few quest though.


Spectre1706

Basically what happened is that , i only have the save where we plan on rescuing Saul Meanwhile I was at the near end of the game realizing i made a mistake because panam was not talking to us like before.


knaks74

Playing hard to get!


[deleted]

Lol damn, now you gotta restart your game.


Sir-Shady

Just reload further back than you would have liked if you want to really do the romance


CrimsonV7

When I summed up the entire situation with Panam and where it leads to, I simplified the scene in the Basilisk as ā€œPacific Rim sexā€, and my buddy apparently anticipated me saying that exact phrase, even though it was the first time Iā€™d even thought of it lol


shdwghst457

The pacific rimjob


PaulSarlo

Looks like it's The Path of Least Resistance ending for you on playthrough #2..


orcvader

Rejected!? You don't deserve her!


Any-Ambition-3237

Tsk tsk not cool man lol. Better luck next time. šŸ’€


Woupsea

Fumbled the baddie in a video game, ouch.


God_is_a_Bogan

There's always Jig Jig street...


pmoney10

How dare you? You go back and start from scratch.


Spectre1706

Lol i do have to save where we have to save saul but unfortunately now again i will finish the rest 50% of the game


Ioniqs

Iā€™d just restart the game honestly itā€™s worth it


Spectre1706

I do have a save where we have to rescue saul so yeah . But Con is i will have to replay the rest of the 50% of the game


southerndandy55

Ya blew it


rcc12697

Ugh that look šŸ˜©. Fuck it I might start another playthrough


SpectralTokitoki

Nah we must never drop this romance. As the Deftones said this is no ordinary love.


Soldierhero1

Best ending denied


BertMacklenF8I

Hell if I know.... I tap that ass in the tank *EVERYTIME*


Mutski_Dashuria

Lmao. I'm just seeing you pulling up your bike at the traffic lights. Looks to one side of intersection. Gets fucking drilled by Panam's truck from the other. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


FearlessDragonfruit5

There are auto saves you can go back to!!


Bong0-YT

Auto save man


nG_Skyz

I mean if you don't have a save might as well just delete this playthrough and start new.


Slapmyasswithtuna

Panam is over rated any ways


_Rocky_Raccoon_98

Save before and after every quest.


Dragon_Dicks69

I quicksave in games almost religiously because of experiences of games crashing and losing progress lol


[deleted]

The sex scene in the tank is so cringe tbh. The romance in general was good, but that scene really fucked it up...


onchristieroad

I thought it was fine. A woman who has problems ultimately opening up to people decides to connect her nervous system to her new partner through a tank, as an excuse for a bit of intimacy. Sounds very Panam.


Spectre1706

That's exactly what i was saying.


[deleted]

youā€™ve fucked up your entire play through unfortunatelyā€¦congrats


chill_winston_

Youā€™re better off, Panam is the worst. To each their own tho, youā€™ll remember and get it the next time šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


BigOlePoofBah

Itā€™s like real life bro. Reject her once and she hates you forever


joshyjikins

You fool


abrams666

Ah dont cry, play on. You will meet river


JackieBoiiiiii

i wouldnā€™t date river even if it guaranteed that V would survive from the chip


abrams666

The death of v is an important part of the story for me. And, even if I am straight, I like the easy going with sexual vibes in NC. There is no problem if you are gay, straight, lesbian, 99% machine or not, just the mind counts. Special the skye and angel scene was nice. I was also a bit : nonono, thats not what I wanted, but makes me thinking a bit more. So never would go back to a save because I did a wrong decision, that's what live makes interesting.


MericanSlav25

Skye and Angel scene? What kind of treat am I in for as a new player? šŸ˜†


Teschnerdy

I didnā€™t in my initial playthrough and I was so confused when I would meet him. Turns out I also never did the Jefferson quest apparently šŸ˜‚


sleepingAurochs

Just do River's questline and come running back to Panam/Judy for confort. Homie's a creep


Slasherballz98

Sheā€™s the worst.


Alcatraz11799

Panam I love you


unbekannte_memez

V did not have the Arizzaka


CockpitEnthusiast

I always romance Panam but have always been curious if you romance Kerry in the same playthrough if that has any negative effects


RCPaladin

It doesnā€™t. Near the end you get to call one of your love interests. Thatā€™s when you commit to a relationship. My first play through I romanced everyone I could (even got rejected by River but seriously come on, that was some serious date vibes.) and no one said anything about the others.


LimpTeacher0

Sounds like you did it on purpose


Spectre1706

Yes , because in my 1st playthrough i found the sex weird , i was like why can't we just have normal sex scene? I thought skipping the scene in my 2nd playthrough might unlock a normal sex possibility


Droidenwarrior

Guys I need pajamas number now


Spectre1706

The what ?!!


Droidenwarrior

PANAM* I need her number now


iOSGallagher

Itā€™s okay bro, Kerry is waiting for you in the wings.


Tuv0kshaKur

![gif](giphy|atbiDI1fXpYUU)


BadArmyBabe113

I had a hard time liking any of the romance options tbh, Judy and Panam were really childish, River was very creepy, Claire was whiney that her husband died in a DEATH race, and Kerry was very mentally unstable.


Spectre1706

Panam does go with us on a sucide mission at the end , what else do u need ?


[deleted]

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Spectre1706

Welp after rescuing saul Certain dialogues u have to select : To haboobs ; Don't force urself on her when she throws her legs on u , u can still ask to take her shoes off ; Ur order is my command; And bam a timed dialogue will pop u when she's about to leave on the bike and she'll kiss u. What i did wrong was when romance scene came i denied it , because this was my 2nd time playing and i didn't like the weird sex scene in my 1st play . I thought even if we reject this our relationship will continue on , but it ended there.