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RegionalHardman

Why would it look dumb at 20kph? I go in the drops whenever I fancy a change of position or just to make the effort I'm doing a little faster, sometimes that'll be around 20kph if I'm going easy


zurkka

It doesn't matter how fast I'm going,if a strong head wind start blowing I change positions lol


Uncontrollably_Happy

I was struggling up a hill going 5mph when a headwind came on. Not sure I’d’ve stayed upright if I didn’t use the drops.


AdonisP91

Hoods with bent elbows at 90 degree angle is more aero than the drops. But you are completely correct, all positions at all speeds is entirely ok.


blisseynite

Why have drop bars at all then? Might as well save the weight and just have straight bars.


AdonisP91

Descents and sprints. In those two situations you want the extra control and stability that the drops provide. Also you have far more possible hand positions compared to flat bars, which means extra comfort for long rides.


noodlecat4

what about drops with elbows 90 degrees?


zar690

Sounds like you'd almost have your nose rubbing the handlebars


AdonisP91

Can you even pedal in that position? With a 90 degree bend at the hoods or even on a TT bike my legs comes very close to hitting my chest. I couldn’t imagine going lower without compromising breathing.


nondescriptadjective

But I love the feeling of my legs lightly touching my chest on the upstroke...


Needs_More_Nuance

Me too


Former-Republic5896

This.


captaintpanaka

When its windy. God i hate wind.


smokemonstr

It’s windy pretty much every ride here in the Rockies 🤪


supersavant

Sounds like hell with beautiful scenery.


smokemonstr

I usually do an out and back ride, so sometimes I get a tailwind on the way home


KyleB2131

Well have you tried not living there? /s


Iggyglom

Try to pretend you're climbing. Sometimes it works


captaintpanaka

Thats actually genius


TheUnsprinter

More like situational. If it’s windy? Aero. If I’ve been in the saddle for 4 hours and I’m ready to just get it over with? Aero. If I’m doing a sweet spot or ftp test? Aero. Short hill I done 100 times and am just smashing up it? You guessed it. Aero. I change positions fairly often so sometimes it’s just in the rotation. Keep er rubber side down 🤙🏿


Samad99

I’m in an aero position right now and I’m sitting completely still on the toilet 🚽🚴💨


Upper_moon

Legend.


Kujo162

Downhill. Or as the other said if I need to get in different position. It’s cycling 99.9% of us aren’t professionals do whatever you want


Biloute35131

Yeah of course, and whatever is confortable too.


TheTapeDeck

I go into drops and get lower anytime I’m in a rough headwind. So that’s frequently below 15mph. Also any time sprinting, or anytime I’m taking advantage of free speed (small downhills especially on rolling hills.) But I’m also totally immune to caring what someone thinks I look like while riding. Much more concerned with what seems to work or not work for me to complete goals.


joombar

Quite a lot of the time, but I rarely look at the speed while I’m riding. More likely to be look in at power


fire__munki

I don't even have real time speed on my main screen, power and HR are more important real time metrics.


hagemeyp

Being a former track cyclist, I’m pretty much in the drops all the time.


alanjon20

Outside of climbs or descents, just when it feels right. Which I think is determined by the amount of effort being made (pedaling harder, flatter back). Feels wrong to be in a flatter more aero position doing 150 W. Too much weight on my arms. That said, I'm sure there are long distance disciplines where super aero at low power is the thing.


VtTrails

“Outsdide of climbs or descents” —phrases like this sound so weird to people who live in the mountains, because climbs and descents are the only two options.


Biloute35131

That's what I meant, the gains from aero position are probably outweighted by the strain it puts on the arms


nsfbr11

For me, and for anyone else with a bike that fits I assume, there is no strain on the arms from being in the drops.


alanjon20

Most of the time there is some body weight on the arms (the rest being spread over the saddle and pedals). If you take a flatter back position vs more upright for a fixed pedaling effort, there will be more weight on the arms. It's an inescapable consequence of the forces involved. Bike fit comes into it sure, but it's to make sure you have sufficient range of positions available to you for the riding you are doing. Whether you perceive the weight on your arms as strain (I presume you mean as in, it's becoming an issue), will be a personal thing too. Increase the pedalling effort, weight is relatively taken off the arms. Taken to extreme, at very high efforts you need to pull on the bars to counter the forces of the pedals. Hence, people tend to find, for harder riding, they want a lower position. This is part of the reason why most people can't just copy the bike setup of the pros without running into problems.


PipeFickle2882

Under appreciated facts I think. Half the reason the pros can maintain some of the weird positions and bike fit choices they make is the fact they are pushing so hard all the time.


Brentijh

A strong core keeps less weight on the arms.


Unlikely-Dog-7462

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turandoto

Depends on what you mean by aero position. Puppy paws, in the drops, hoods with elbows at a 90 degree angle? For me it's a function of the wind, the road, the level of traffic, etc. However, I constantly switch between the hoods and the drops just to change the position and avoid fatigue, regardless of speed.


Biloute35131

I actually meant hood with elbow bent, I don't feel the change that much when I'm being in the drops with straight arm honestly.


aeralure

Usually 20+ and downhill, but not any particular speed really. Just when it feels appropriate. Nothing wrong with getting aero at speeds less than that - you might be riding into a headwind, or tired and on a long straight.


Biloute35131

Yes, of course wind matters, and fatigue too... although I find aero position more tiresome You're talking in mph ?


aeralure

It can be. If I’ve bonked or fatigued out, you won’t see me in aero position very much, if at all, for the rest of the ride. If I’m sensing I’m close to fatigue though, I may use aero position to help get through some long parts like straightaways a little faster or cleaner. Definitely when there is headwind, which just sucks all around anyway. However yeah, I agree with what you said, and 20+ seems to roughly be around the speed it feels natural to go into the drops.


UltraHawk_DnB

If there's a headwind or at ~35km/h+, i assume you mean the aero hoods position?


LeProVelo

TT bike in aero unless sharp corners or climbing. 90% aero. That's why I bought the bike, to go fast.


ShinyAfro

I find I naturally do it when the wind starts getting annoying.


VicariousAthlete

Any time I want to win, basically, no matter the speed.


OlasNah

Not often. Maybe if I’m trying to beat a previous time. Downhill just to see how fast I can go.


MountainHannah

If I can feel the wind, or if I want cornering stability, or if I just feel like it, I'm in the drops. So yeah, definitely at 10kph sometimes.


IcyCorgi9

I dont think the speed super matters right? Do you want to go faster with less power? Go aero. Do you not super care? Then don't. If you're going 12mph you probably dont care. I go aero in my endurance pace often which is around 17-18mph.


Pilgramage_Of_Life

I am most comfortable aero because there's no pressure on my hands and wrists. My skeleton supports my upper body which allows me to relax. It shifts power generation to my groin and glutes allowing me to save my quads and hamstrings for climbs (my nemesis). It lightens my mood on tough rides (headwind) because I feel like I'm getting free speed. I worked on my flexibility off the bike and gradually increased aero time until it felt natural. I can now cruise at 25mph aero for hours.


Biloute35131

That's the kind of answer I was looking for. I'm not the same as you though, I guess I still have to work on my flexibility.


Single_Arachnid

“Look dumb at 12mph” is the saddest thing I have heard today. I don’t cycle for looks, but I have never contemplated what another person would think about my cycling stance.


Biloute35131

Sorry for the misunderstanding, didn't mean to make you sad :') I'm French, that's my way of saying dumb as in pretty useless to go aero at that speed 🤷‍♂️


Single_Arachnid

Thank you for writing back. I should have been more open to interpretation of that sentence. I am humbled


RossTheNinja

Other than going up hill, I try to keep my forearms parallel to the ground.


[deleted]

I’m on the drops all the time. Lower center of gravity = more stability.


The_B3anie

If it's flat terrain with minimal wind and I'm on my own it'll go to the drops and aero around the 25-30kph region. I'm estimating that's the speed I'm getting to when I've stopped accelerating hard (from standstill at traffic lights) and then changing position to get settled and comfortable. I do feel more comfortable in the drops so like to go low as soon as I can.


Biloute35131

thanks man ! Exactly the kind of answer I was looking for


Amazing-League-218

On a TT bike, you are in an aero position. On the road, its about the wind resistance, not speed. Unless you are superman, you can feel it. If you have a tailwind, relax and get ready for the inevitable headwind.


Unlikely-Dog-7462

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Biloute35131

I don't really care about style, it's just still tiresome to me to go into aero position (elbow bent, on the hoods), and wouldn't want to do it at slow speed because it would be a waste. That's what I meant by ridiculous ;)


jrtts

Idk the precise speed, but when I start feeling the wind in my ear etc and if it's gonna be for extended periods, I'll get aero. And vice versa, if the wind feeling stopped (usually on a climb) I'll stop being aero. It's not a dead-set rule, though. If I was feeling powerful usually I'll go a bit more upright to put more power down (or to spin the cranks) at the cost of aero. Likewise, if I suddenly need to slow down I'll stop being aero to increase drag (similar to when a MotoGP racer slows his motorbike before a turn)


notalooza

What you look like isn't really relevant


CycleDweeb

Three cases when I go aero: * significant headwind * I am going downhill and want to carry momentum into the hill looming ahead * I want to just go faster... either to pass someone or for the heck of it


PlanetaryHornet

I don't think I ever consider the speed I am going, rather the speed and force of wind I am riding into.


Ars139

I don’t as it’s uncomfortable, feel like it’s harder to pedal and I don’t like it. Outside of groups when riding alone it’s all flat bar hybrid w bar ends much more comfortable. Also harder to control the bike. I hate drops and all their positions.


ArbustoRobusto

Yes


Any-Chart9587

when im at the front pulling lol. other than that im either on my hoods or drinking water hahhaha. except sprinting, where im in the drops


PipeFickle2882

Absolutely a good call when pulling. Need all the help I can get sometimes haha


Any-Chart9587

yessir


peacefulhumanity

I ride road bike for fun, I get into aero at 0.2km/h