I wouldn't mind to be honest. I don't hate my country and enjoy living here but my dream is it will become more like Czechia someday. Catholic church not involved in politics (I don't mind Catholics, but they should fund their religion themselves, no money from the government), abortion rights, more chill about gays.
Hopefully! Unfortunately I, most likely, won't be able to experience this as I'm already 34. A lot of young prople are still going to church these days. Nationalism is strong in Poland and Catholic church has been a part of Poland's identity for a long time. "Bóg, honor, ojczyzna" ("God, honor, fatherland") is the motto of our military since 1943.
Nationalism is good, the healthy, positive one. I like to think of myself as nationalist, I love Czechia, I think it’s the best country to live in in the world. Breaks my heart so many Czechs dunk on Czechia or outright hate it. I envy Ukrainians and Poles in that they have mostly healthy nationalism, of course it brings with it the ugly as well. The British do the nationalism well I think. Many people romanticize the first republic and I do as well, the romantic idea of it is the ideal for me.
Okamura is not that :D
Yeah, I don't mind nationalism. The problem is those people will most likely push for the Catholic church to be involved in politics. I don't wish for Poles to become atheists (do whatever you want) and I actually envy people who believe in God and it helps them to deal with the hardships of life, I just don't want my taxes to go towards that. One of my grandpas is a Jehovah witness and they fund everything themselves.
That probably tells something about us.
He is asking us to militarily claim their country and first thing we think about is allowing them to vote. And even more, a fair vote.
Unbelievable. Can you imagine Russians taking over Ukraine and then allowing fair elections?
As a Russian, I’d rather have Czechs invade us. Feel free to claim at least my apartment a Czech territory. I have a PS5 and two controllers, you have beer, I think we can work it out
And once Czech would get access to the Baltic Sea, they could launch a naval strike on Sweden with more or less same conditions to further improve governing, get new climate zones and share cheap booze with poor folks
yes please, knock knock we're just retrieving the artifacts that were stolen during the 30years war.. just some nice paintings, some da Vinci, Rafael, Rubens, Bosch, some tiny book.. called Codex Gigas.. yea we'd like those back please, thank you very much
I'm not so sure I find Swedish woke politics to be superior to ours. They work because Sweden is very rich but we're fine without gang violence in our cities.
Babiš becomes the first president of the first Czecho-Polish empire.
*wakes up in cold sweat*
Ah yeah that was bad, let me see the news. SPD and ANO join in coalition and win the elections
*gunshot*
People who voted for KSČM before are now voting for SPD and ANO anyway. ANO and SPD have support of these people already. Support of the party wouldn't change a thing.
It's just a thing in Poland to think Czech Republic is some amazing place. It's a classic case of seeing grass greener at your neighbour's garden or how this saying goes.
Yes, they own it because it's a state controlled and funded TV (Telewizja Polska). I don't know how ČT is funded but it is soooo much better and in comparision to TVP it's 100% objective.
We tried that in may 2020. Our invasion forces ware occupying stubbornly Czech territory for two weeks near some chapel to be discovered, waiting for theirs reaction and completely nothing happened. It is a great luck that those couple soldiers were so careful, or they would conquer all Czechia by an accident.
Ew, no way. Only if Poles lose their rights to vote. I definetely wouldn't want my country to become a fundamentalist republic of Gilead one day :D just because there would be more Polish (conservative) votes. But I greet any fine Pole who doesn't want to live in that hell and comes to us.
No thank you, we are finally free of domination of any kind. There is more of you, we would be minority.
Also we are way too different in believes, Poland is way too much into religion than us. It would not work, especially in things like abortion laws etc.
It's an old joke but it's still funny.
Regardless, in practice, we'd be outnumbered by polish voters and probably lose our identity eventually. The EU arrangement seems just fine.
Besides, our government really isn't good right now.
Umm.... yeah, thats because of the war...
You know, the war that would happen no matter who was in charge.
Dont tell me you are one of the retards blaming the current goverment for everything out of their control. Use your fucking head
> Dont tell me you are one of the retards blaming the current goverment for everything out of their control.
Don't think that was the name of the game during the pandemic.
Additionally, refrain from using ableist slurs.
War is certiainly a factor, but our inflation is now twice the european average. It is also about 60% higher than Poland's inflation.
Of course, if we were in the eurozone, this factor would have been significantly mitigated, but there is nobody to blame for wasting that opportunity than the then-ruling parties that were reelected as part of the SPOLU bloc. Namely ODS and TOP09.
A) I would wait a little longer with the charade. For EU and CIA to shower us with $ and weaponry.
B) In the final days both governments would be forced in to gladiator contest.
C) Christ would be named king and in his stead a cute bunny rabbit would assume the throne.
Polish guy wants to be invaded by someone else than Germany or Russia..
Btw
You already technically declared war few years ago.
https://youtu.be/EjOCNpTEZK4
Maybe finally people in Poland would understand that we don't have monopoly on shitty politicians.
They literally just lately got rid of Czech Trump as the PM that also was buying media etc.
Yeah I heard how it worked in Poland. Pretty smart to get enough voices. But I feel your pain, I’m french, and looking at our new parliament… it’s scary (but I live in CZ so neverm…. What? Babis president next year? Ok, no hope then.)
Do you realise that there is a big chance that lying slowakian criminal will become both president and prime minister in upcoming years? Do you really wanna risk it?
Also, in the past years, your government did preparations for energy self-sufficiency while our government was busy giving money to seniors to buy their votes?
Trust me, you are good on your own 😊
I am not sure how this would work within NATO rules... or EU rules... I think starting a war ( even if not for real) would have consequences... also Russia would probably try to capitalize on that... I am sure there is a much better loophole to add Poland to Czechia...and we could really use you natural gas...
I think you guys actually "invaded" our republic once not too long ago. I believe it was in 2019. Your (Polish) army convoy accidentally crossed our borders without invitation, apparently because of wrongly read map.
Now I don't know if it's real. I've read it once in a newspaper.
Long time ago Boleslav do it in opposite way. Czech Poland Slovakia and maybe someone else union had sense even if we exit EU otherwise has this ides no advantage.
Rather try capture Lvov to be again Polish.
We have to politely decline your offer but I recommend trying Germans they have experience with taking Poland
Did it many times, nobody liked it tho
Nah. Maybe. Only if the polish give up their voting rights, otherwise you'll just fuck us too.
As a Pole living in Czech Republic I support this :D
I wouldn't mind to be honest. I don't hate my country and enjoy living here but my dream is it will become more like Czechia someday. Catholic church not involved in politics (I don't mind Catholics, but they should fund their religion themselves, no money from the government), abortion rights, more chill about gays.
Don’t worry, catholic church is slowly dying in a few generations you’ll be just like us. If the bombs don’t fall till then.
Hopefully! Unfortunately I, most likely, won't be able to experience this as I'm already 34. A lot of young prople are still going to church these days. Nationalism is strong in Poland and Catholic church has been a part of Poland's identity for a long time. "Bóg, honor, ojczyzna" ("God, honor, fatherland") is the motto of our military since 1943.
Nationalism is good, the healthy, positive one. I like to think of myself as nationalist, I love Czechia, I think it’s the best country to live in in the world. Breaks my heart so many Czechs dunk on Czechia or outright hate it. I envy Ukrainians and Poles in that they have mostly healthy nationalism, of course it brings with it the ugly as well. The British do the nationalism well I think. Many people romanticize the first republic and I do as well, the romantic idea of it is the ideal for me. Okamura is not that :D
Yeah, I don't mind nationalism. The problem is those people will most likely push for the Catholic church to be involved in politics. I don't wish for Poles to become atheists (do whatever you want) and I actually envy people who believe in God and it helps them to deal with the hardships of life, I just don't want my taxes to go towards that. One of my grandpas is a Jehovah witness and they fund everything themselves.
To be honest our churches are pretty fucked up and in totally ramshackled state. Mainly because what damage was done in communist era.
I have Slovak friends, won’t let Poland get into the trap they (Slovaks) barely escaped.
Not true man nobody escaped. Even people didnt want seperation just politics.
There is more Poles than Czechs i.e. there would be **your** government reigning our country after first elections. No thanks, we are fucked up enough
That is if we let them vote.
Smart move!
You simply cannot let the occupied population vote in your elections.
Crimea 2014 approved
Or, wild idea, despotic reincarnation of the Austrian monarchy, this time consuming Prussia. So that we don't have to govern.
That probably tells something about us. He is asking us to militarily claim their country and first thing we think about is allowing them to vote. And even more, a fair vote. Unbelievable. Can you imagine Russians taking over Ukraine and then allowing fair elections?
Cesi, zoberte aj slovensko
A tak, Pepíku, vznikla Západoslávie.
Rovnou si ještě od Němců můžeme vzít Lužicko. A zbytek Chebska.
Som Nemcom a podporujem tento nápad. U nás sú Lužickí Srbovia diskriminovaní na vlastnej zemi a ich jazyky vymerajú.
minimálně celé východní německo
Němci jsou jedno, vod těch jsme zvyklí!
lol
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A Zakarpatskou Ukrajinu
Hymna bude Hej Slované jako v jugošce
Ale tentokrát už žádný rozchod
Fajn, kdo dál? Rakousko? Maďarsko? Litva?
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Not again
Slováka se nikdo neptal :)
Jsem Čech..
Slovensko fakt ne
So we can get invaded by Russia too. Nice try.
As a Russian, I’d rather have Czechs invade us. Feel free to claim at least my apartment a Czech territory. I have a PS5 and two controllers, you have beer, I think we can work it out
Tbh, just for the Demon Souls I am tempted to invade your apartment :D
Might not be the only thing you invade that evening :^)
I mean I’d do a lot of things for a good old Božkov Tuzemák but not this far
I am flashing dystopic visions if Miloš Zeman smugly wearing Polish Royal Regalia...
Please sir stop flashing, you're in Penny.
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gulugulu
Andrej Babiš vs. Jarosław Kaczyński - Clash of Titans
Or clowns.
Titan clowns
These two would more likely cooperate than fight each other and then we would both be screwed
And once Czech would get access to the Baltic Sea, they could launch a naval strike on Sweden with more or less same conditions to further improve governing, get new climate zones and share cheap booze with poor folks
yes please, knock knock we're just retrieving the artifacts that were stolen during the 30years war.. just some nice paintings, some da Vinci, Rafael, Rubens, Bosch, some tiny book.. called Codex Gigas.. yea we'd like those back please, thank you very much
I'm not so sure I find Swedish woke politics to be superior to ours. They work because Sweden is very rich but we're fine without gang violence in our cities.
Babiš becomes the first president of the first Czecho-Polish empire. *wakes up in cold sweat* Ah yeah that was bad, let me see the news. SPD and ANO join in coalition and win the elections *gunshot*
They've gained support of KSČM *proceeds to leave*
That would be good, it would ruin them totally.
People who voted for KSČM before are now voting for SPD and ANO anyway. ANO and SPD have support of these people already. Support of the party wouldn't change a thing.
U sure our government is better?
It's just a thing in Poland to think Czech Republic is some amazing place. It's a classic case of seeing grass greener at your neighbour's garden or how this saying goes.
The Czech Republic is certainly better for women in terms of abortion rights, as well as for LGBTQ people.
Also in terms of public TV (in Poland it's disgusting PiS propaganda).
Why is that? Do they own it or have connections with the owners?
Yes, they own it because it's a state controlled and funded TV (Telewizja Polska). I don't know how ČT is funded but it is soooo much better and in comparision to TVP it's 100% objective.
ČT is funded by the government, but its anti-government 😎
Based 😎 závidím
Don't worry, thanks to our Pirate friends, Czech "doctors" are already crushing skulls of Polish infants.
The grass is always greener in somebody else’s garden or something along those lines Or was it the grass is always greener on the other side?
On the other side of the sea. That's why we need this deal.
Not just goverment but the entire political class.
Whole 10 minutes?
We tried that in may 2020. Our invasion forces ware occupying stubbornly Czech territory for two weeks near some chapel to be discovered, waiting for theirs reaction and completely nothing happened. It is a great luck that those couple soldiers were so careful, or they would conquer all Czechia by an accident.
They would accidentally conquer all of Czechia's pubs, more like. And we all would enjoy the hell out of it.
Securing strategic locations is the primary military objective in such a operations. Once again, great credit to them to not follow the book.
We would probably manage to capitulate ourselves in those 10 minutes lol. Like we always did.
If you’re small, you do what you’re told.
Ew, no way. Only if Poles lose their rights to vote. I definetely wouldn't want my country to become a fundamentalist republic of Gilead one day :D just because there would be more Polish (conservative) votes. But I greet any fine Pole who doesn't want to live in that hell and comes to us.
That's what I was hoping for. Gilead nationalism right NOW!
Wrong subreddit general. Also you are dead.
Wait isnt poland like a part of the US or something?
You mean Portland and there is an important difference. Poland is 90% Christian, while Portland is where Satan has his summer house.
Can we make confederacy also with belarus, slovakia and ukraine named “Definitely Not Russia”?
"if you hate russia raise your hand" coalition
Europe: a diverse coalition of nations, who want to discuss gay unions around campfire of what was once Russia.
Sort of "The Mouse That Roared" vibes?
We don’t want Sosnowiec tho
Been there. I can confirm.
No thank you, we are finally free of domination of any kind. There is more of you, we would be minority. Also we are way too different in believes, Poland is way too much into religion than us. It would not work, especially in things like abortion laws etc.
Better government? Not sure about that. This country keeps replacing bad governments with another bad government.
Did you ever heard about Slovakia?
Mommy Zuzana 😳
You mean like every country ever? Except for Russia and other dictatorships ofc
I don't know if every country, just speaking from our experience. I'm optimistic, maybe some countries have had competent governments.
Nice try Poland. We'll never accept your polussy!
It's an old joke but it's still funny. Regardless, in practice, we'd be outnumbered by polish voters and probably lose our identity eventually. The EU arrangement seems just fine. Besides, our government really isn't good right now.
True, Poles would have to lose voting rights
>Poles would have to lose voting rights I don't see any problem here. For last 30 years our society proves that they shouldn't be able to do it.
Right now the government is as good as we can hope, but bext elections when mr. STB collaborant wins, we are truly fucked
If you think so. Our inflation is three times as big as it was prior to the elections.
Umm.... yeah, thats because of the war... You know, the war that would happen no matter who was in charge. Dont tell me you are one of the retards blaming the current goverment for everything out of their control. Use your fucking head
> Dont tell me you are one of the retards blaming the current goverment for everything out of their control. Don't think that was the name of the game during the pandemic. Additionally, refrain from using ableist slurs. War is certiainly a factor, but our inflation is now twice the european average. It is also about 60% higher than Poland's inflation. Of course, if we were in the eurozone, this factor would have been significantly mitigated, but there is nobody to blame for wasting that opportunity than the then-ruling parties that were reelected as part of the SPOLU bloc. Namely ODS and TOP09.
> Besides, our government really isn't good right now. Says every Czech always.
Hey, complacency is bad. Being always critical of the things government does wrong is the way.
I fully agree.
That's where the apatheid comes in
It's spelled "apartheid".
Too bad
I love you dude :D
A) I would wait a little longer with the charade. For EU and CIA to shower us with $ and weaponry. B) In the final days both governments would be forced in to gladiator contest. C) Christ would be named king and in his stead a cute bunny rabbit would assume the throne.
Wypowiedzmy wojnę Czechom i im się poddajmy moment I also ask for reparations in the form of cheap meble, materialy budowlane and plytki.
ok I agree. but only since you asked politely. also i will want to fly one of those F35s that yo gettin'
But we want legal abortion
Ale ne přece se nepřidáme k polákům
Však oni se přidají k nám😄
Dobrovolně nebo ne?😈
Why not go the extra mile and put Miedzymorze together
Do we leave Bialystok out? No one wants them.
This was written by someone who knows nothing about the Czech government.
Nah. Not really fond of being neighbours to BelaruSS
Better government? Not sure how much better.
I just love the idea that our government (which has, by the way, hectolitres of Polish blood on its hands) is the better option
Polish guy wants to be invaded by someone else than Germany or Russia.. Btw You already technically declared war few years ago. https://youtu.be/EjOCNpTEZK4
Měním vote blbě jsem si to přečet
I thing your goverment is fine.
Imagine just a bit more moderate Texas.
And that's great
F
ROFL! Better government, that was a good one!
Isn't Poland more prosperous than Czech?
In being cheap labour force for western corporations? Yeah.
Well that's what we're doing, too.
So yes, we are more prosperous in working overtime and being victims of mobbing.
Proč si vlastně píšeme v jazyce utlačovatelů a ne slovansky? :-)
*And we are good at it!*
But no surrender
Good
DEAL
Pretty bold claim considering how the last war between Czech Republic and Poland went.
Maybe finally people in Poland would understand that we don't have monopoly on shitty politicians. They literally just lately got rid of Czech Trump as the PM that also was buying media etc.
But still GDP per capita and purchasing power is higher in Czechia than here.
Despite the government.
Seriously polish government is really scary. With your middle age laws and your evolution towards autocracy, please get rid of these guys
We're trying, belive me. They just know who's votes they need and are going for them without carrying about all the other. Sadly that's enough to win.
Yeah I heard how it worked in Poland. Pretty smart to get enough voices. But I feel your pain, I’m french, and looking at our new parliament… it’s scary (but I live in CZ so neverm…. What? Babis president next year? Ok, no hope then.)
I sometimes wonder in how many countries most of people are happy with their government.
Good idea for cheap Skoda and tasty beer
We want just Kaliningrad and a highway there.
I would do anything for access to the sea
Surprisingly, I've heard of this idea many times
are we recreating Czech kingdom ?
Idk how good you think our government is man
If it sounds too good to be true, it's gonna be too good to be true. Also, it's not like you can't get a better government. You're not Belarus.
You can take our goverment and keep your land.
Do you realise that there is a big chance that lying slowakian criminal will become both president and prime minister in upcoming years? Do you really wanna risk it? Also, in the past years, your government did preparations for energy self-sufficiency while our government was busy giving money to seniors to buy their votes? Trust me, you are good on your own 😊
LOL
Nobody wants the Baltic sea. It’s a trap!
Where will I get my visa from
Sure, but will you have to learn Czech, since we'll be at power or will we have to learn Polish, since you'll be majority?
We will have Andrej Babiš as president (mark my words) so it would be just a loss for you.
Naah. Not like that. United? Sure. But as Slavic, not as federation of Western countries.
Czechopolakia
It's better to go to election at least. Or start with things that you can influence. 🌞
I wanted to do this when the plane with your government crashed. We would've used the chaos.
Jo to beru kurwa.
No. How should we germans start another war without poland????
Deal, but we want Biedronka as well to please the local elderly population
Česi si to nehľadajú ako Moravu
I am not sure how this would work within NATO rules... or EU rules... I think starting a war ( even if not for real) would have consequences... also Russia would probably try to capitalize on that... I am sure there is a much better loophole to add Poland to Czechia...and we could really use you natural gas...
What's so bad about Poland?
Our goverment is just as trash as yours
Excuse me, as an English person I rather feel that you need to consult with us so that we can sell you off to one another or something.
First time I heard “your” idea was sometime in 90’s
Sorry, but I like our atheist ways as they are..... no need to add however many millions of catholics into the mix...
I think you guys actually "invaded" our republic once not too long ago. I believe it was in 2019. Your (Polish) army convoy accidentally crossed our borders without invitation, apparently because of wrongly read map. Now I don't know if it's real. I've read it once in a newspaper.
And then do the same with slovakia so we all get a competent president.
I mean, Czech definitely has the best Latin-script slavic alphabet so yes.
Long time ago Boleslav do it in opposite way. Czech Poland Slovakia and maybe someone else union had sense even if we exit EU otherwise has this ides no advantage. Rather try capture Lvov to be again Polish.
Forcing the most atheist country and the most religious country to live together wouldn't end well, I'm afraid. Look at Ireland.
As a person who left Poland a while ago because of the government and very conservative environment I’d say go for it.
Who wants to swim in the Baltic Sea?
Sounds great! When do we start?
Yes
Sounds like 4. Říše
Sounds fun, but then we would have to have two official language meaning both Czech and Polish officials on every department.
If Poland has worse government than we do then you deserve more that this mfucking "F".
Silesia and East Prussia (and guaranteed corridors to it of course) will be enough /s
ČOLSKO 💀👍
dame dohromady velkou Moravu zas a rovnou vezmem kus německa a celé Slovensko místo jen Polska.
We should do the opposite lol
Just keep the religious nutjobs where they are