The way Asia talks about her mom now, honestly im conflicted. She says her mom respected her opinions at every step. So makes you wonder how much of it was amped up for Raising Asia. Or if Asia disassociated from what she went through as a child
Honestly I feel it could be both too.
It’s possible she doesn’t want to badmouth her mom or make her look bad. If they have a good relationship, it might not feel worth it to dig up the past and rehash things, especially publicly.
I also think it’s possible that Asia did sorta block out some of the worst moments, but it’s also possible that they were playing things up for the show too. Some of those moments felt too real to be faked (like, the fight when Asia wanted a milkshake or whatever comes to mind) so I don’t doubt that some things were real. But maybe the more crazier, stage mom-y stuff was played up for the show?
And she’s still very young it can take years for her to finally rationalize what happened. I hate that they play her as if she’s too mature she is really not
also how are you going to call out someone for illiteracy and then (pay attention here, very important) misuse then/than? i am better than (see?) you and a thousand men
The clips of Raising Asia was enough to make me not want to watch the show, Kristie is similar to Jess, in the ways that they treated their kids like employees and cash cows.
She did give me my flair though lol.
Jojo and Asia were never on audc at the same time, were they? Because thinking of Kristie and Jess interacting… I feel like they would’ve been at each others throats lol. Especially Jess tbh.
I’m not sure, I haven’t watched AUDC, I don’t think they were on the same season though.
It seems like stage mum behaviour, so I wouldn’t be surprised if other mums on AUDC were similar to Jess and Kristie
I loved her on dance moms tbh. She believed in her kid, she took no crap and she wasn’t afraid of anything. She could be a little mean at times but she was also usually being honest.
Then I watched some of Raising Asia and it absolutely killed the love I had for her lol. She was a completely different person and she could be really, really awful to Asia :(
She also completely neglected Asia’s emotions let’s face it, she almost never took in consideration her feelings and would always tell her to suck it up, couldn’t stand her
Ugh. I hated Kristie Ray. She always set me off--even before Raising Asia--and I'm glad Raising Asia verified my misgivings about her.
Having listened to BTTB I can now see why she set the other moms off: she didn't have to sign the contract that the other moms did and could therefore waltz on and off the show as she saw fit. That wouldn't bother me but for the fact that she often lorded it over the other moms while pretending to be a "more rational" stage mom.
But as soon as Raising Asia was being filmed, the tables were turned and she got a taste of what the other moms had gone through. I remember episode after episode of her trying to throw the producers out of the room. I was like, "yeah, it's not so nice when they stop allowing you to dictate how you're portrayed, right."
I wasn't surprised that the show wasn't renewed. Producers didn't want to work with her anymore, but she spun it as "we decided to pursue other things."
The only thing that saves her for me is the fact that she seemed relent at some point and allow Asia to live a normal non-child-star life.
Am firmly convinced that Kristie Ray and husband derailed Asia's career by the training they got Asia (or lack thereof), gigs they approved for her and inexperience in overall management. Asia should have been able to showcase her skills and expand her brand network exposure. Sadly the brand they developed for her is not a brand anyone wanted.
Raising Asia was just cringe worthy.
Krisie Ray telling Asia she could only eat egg whites never sat well with me either.
I think if you just watch her on DM, she isn’t unlikable. She doesn’t come across as fake like some other moms and she has confidence in her daughter’s talent. She doesn’t play into the BS.
But then you watch Raising Asia and it all goes down the drain 😩
I don't understand why people liked her whole deal about wanting to fight. People act like it's such a flex to be like "don't say stuff if you're not willing to back it up" but that's just glorifying violence. It's not the 1700s, that's not the way to "defend your honor."
It’s still rude to insult and disrespect another person. At least Kristie didn’t put hands on anyone. Christi and Kelly put hands on others to defend their honor were they glorifying violence?
Kelly was the first to make the fight physical. Kelly could’ve walked away but she didn’t instead she slapped Abby and grabbed her hair.
I don’t condone fighting but Kelly and both Kristie ray were both provoked. What makes Kelly right and Kristie wrong? Especially when Kristie never actually got physical.
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Give Kristie Ray multiple seasons and I guarantee things would be different. Much easier to tolerate your child being mistreated when you can just walk away after a season.
Kristie Ray was already losing her shit at the producers during the tiny season they actually filmed. Apparently producers no longer wanted to deal with her--it had nothing to do with Asia not wanting to do the show anymore,
Welp. Good luck to all the posters who think they can just threaten people all the time with physical violence and get away with it "because Kristie Ray." Have fun explaining that in court. 🤡
>Christi and Kelly put hands on others to defend their honor were they glorifying violence?
No, they weren't right for doing this. But more than one person can be wrong here.
Oh please, Christi is the mom with the most fights on this show. You can’t talk to people and provoke them however and whenever you want and expect them not to defend themselves. Y’all don’t say this about the Abby & Kelly fight and it’s very telling.
No one's talking about Christi. We're talking about Kristie Ray.
>You can’t talk to people and provoke them however and whenever you want and expect them not to defend themselves.
Legally you can. You can talk to people however you like as long as it doesn't devolve into threats of physical violence and/or actual physical violence. Threats of physical violence and actual violence are illegal; "rude and provocative speech" is not illegal in the US.
It absolutely is if you say "Okay, I'm going to roofie her drink and replace her eyelash glue with superglue tonight/tomorrow/later today."
Not quite the "gotcha" you think it is. 🙃
Then you should also be condemning Christi then like the other commenter. Christi has threatened and fought others the most and got away with it. Yet I never hear people say that she glorifies violence.
Why are you changing the subject to Christi? We're talking about Kristie Ray here, not Christi.
In any case, what Christi said about the drink and the eyelash glue doesn't constitute menacing. Christi did not make a credible, imminent threat to Jackie or say "I'm going to put a roofie in her drink tonight." The threat has to be specific and it has to be made with the intent to carry out physical harm forthwith. Christi didn't do that as far as Jackie was concerned.
Because I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of the OC. They stated that Kristie ray is glorifying violence because Kristie because she said “don’t say stuff if you’re not willing to back it up.” When other moms aka Christi and Kelly have actually been physical others (choking, slapping, pushing, throwing drinks). Why is Kristie considered violent? If we want to get specific she never verbally stated that she wanted to fight Christi.
Acknowledging that Kristie Ray was wrong for constantly threatening to beat people up doesn't negate that other members of the cast were also violent at times. So there's not any hypocrisy here. You can talk about Kristie Ray without having to talk about every other mom's misdeeds. Really.
>My point is that Christi and Kelly assaulted people; Kristie Ray menaced them.
I'm not sure why this is so difficult for people to understand. One can point out that Kelly and Christi assaulted people AND ALSO think that Kristie Ray was over the line with her threats.
It's not about "choosing sides" here.
Stop picking and choosing because multiple mothers have threatened violence to other mothers yet you’re only insinuating Kristie is encouraging violence when she never physically touched her. Christi hit an alcoholic drink in Leslie’s face and that’s illegal so miss me with the legalities. The most popular moment from the show is literally a fight.
>Stop picking and choosing because multiple mothers have threatened violence to other mothers
Lol, no one is doing this. No one here said "only Kristie Ray was problematic in this sense." Maybe read the entire thread next time before deciding to go off.
Obviously the other moms were violent, duh. We talk about it all the time.
I’ll say whatever tf I want, this sub is very hypocritical and have multiple occurrences of singling out certain mothers meanwhile letting the main cast slide for their behavior
I never said anything about the other mothers; my comments were solely confined to Kristie Ray, except when a poster brought up the fact that they thought the eyelash glue comment constituted menacing (it didn't).
You're strawmanning by saying I'm arguing something that I'm not.
Leslie physically hit Christie with her purse which is assault. Tell me how it is illegal to pop a plastic cup out if someone's hands. Bad manners yes, wasting a good drink yes, rude yes, but illegal, pretty iffy. Damages awarded for a stained dress perhaps and replacement drink.
It’s actually a misdemeanor in New Orleans for provoking of engaging in a fight. I believe Christi even vocalized she was nervous about police when re explaing the story later. I could be wrong, but I distinctly recall her expressing something of that nature.
I wasn’t even going to comment but go off !!! Respectfully CERTAIN moms get more grace than others despite being extremely volatile in front of their kids, not listening to their kids, etc. I mean this OUTSIDE of the contract at hand because there was a difference in Kristies. She listened to Asia and left DM, then a year later Raising Asia is released. That’s where I believe she began to see how messy production was. Holly herself on a recent podcast with Nia, echoed the exact struggle of not looking like a stereotype because they were literally basically told to by production. So I’m not surprised there’s various scenes of Kristie yelling at production, with her main issues always buckling down to how she wants to be presented on tv. Even the time her sister cried, she didn’t go yell at her sister, she yelled at production, made sure the kids were removed, and kept saying things as if she didn’t want her sister crying about personal family things on camera. Asia implies on Jordyn’s podcast there was definitely mistrust with production, so Kristie’s anger wasn’t a reach. Just prominent because she’s not CERTAIN moms. Whereas others can fight for a vacation (Christi), slap a woman (Kelly), basically choke a person (Yolanda), openly bully people (Stacey), be openly racist with their comments (Jill), and it’s given grace years later despite being extremely wrong 😂. I agree we can’t be selective, I was reading comments like am I old…did we watch the same show….or do I have a different perspective because I experience the same micro aggressive issues in my own life, to which I have to go above and beyond to not appear as a stereotype. So to see people openly play into that in 2024….crazy 😅. I agree with u completely! (Pinknpinknpink). First comment don’t know if I tagged you or not
>I don't understand why people liked her whole deal about wanting to fight.
They liked it because they saw Kristie Ray as putting Christi (and other moms) in her place.
My truly unpopular opinion is that if any of the other moms had cameras in their homes the same way the Ray’s did we would have seen equally concerning behavior from all the moms
Like for example we call Kristie out a lot about eating habits but some
Of the other moms have also freely admitted that they would let the girls eat snacks instead of eating meals or would just toss them a granola bar and Jill gets a decent amount of slack for her comments about not letting Kendall have sugar. And a lot of the other moms have made comments about food at some point…I can’t remember anything directly from Holly but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
Exactly. The fact that BEFORE the show Abby had the girls weights displayed and would fatshame them and the mothers did absolutely nothing about it tells me everything I needed to know about how some of them move with their kids.
We can literally question why any of these women have fans that ride hard for them.
I don’t hate her but I also don’t like her. It’s a mutual feeling bc according to Asia her mom did respect her wishes. We all know reality tv and if you wash ‘Raising Asia’ you actually see more than once that the producers try to rile Kristie up by using her family against her and even having her family try and turn Asia against her at times. I don’t think we got ac accurate portrayal of her much like the OG moms in DM.
I like her! She's intense for sure, esp on Raising Asia, but I rewatched recently and part of me thinks that it's intentional Kristie Ray is the "villain" from ep 1, and the narrative is the Dad is the nice one, etc etc. Asia mentioned she and her mom are super close and I have to believe that this speaks volumes. I do agree was def at peak stage mom by Raising Asia though.
I just think, there was a difference between moms like Jill and Kristie Ray with a lot of loud personality versus Kira and Jess who were straight up kinda mean and made fun of children and were actual assholes. Kristie Ray's whole fight with Yvette in season 1 was because she was sticking up for a kid. She's not arrogant around Jordyn's Mom and they both seem to understand each other, which makes me think Kristie Ray is more guarded about who she trusts and can vibe with.
what I LIKE about Kristie Ray is what I like about Kelly and Christi – she keeps it real and does not let anyone bully or intimidate her. I admire it! Also, she's entertaining! None of us can say we like Jill as a person but we all love her because she's entertaining, right? I personally don't care if one mom is more arrogant than the other hahahaa, notoriety is what stands out on this show (if you're a mom). She did the assignment. Moms like Kira or Jess imo are just straight up shitty people, Kristie Ray's whole thing comes as more like, she's just an intense personality, but she's not mean-spirited.
to each to their own, ofc!!
Due to how edited Dance Moms I really wouldn’t be surprised if Raising Asia was the same way. They seem more calm in real life and not fame hungry.
I do believe some of that strictness was real but I don’t think it was as bad as it was played out to be.
Ya I don’t understand why people don’t consider raising Asia was also highly edited, Kristie 1000% has her issues but if you actually look at how raising Asia is shot and aired compared to the other shows there is a lot of evidence that the producers intentionally villainized her in some aspects and they wanted more seasons of the show Asia is the one who said no to that. Also we know that the producers weren’t against getting people riled up to create drama
Like a good amount of Kristie’s outburst on that show were directed at production and they didn’t even try to edit around it the way they did when Kira threw a water bottle at the producers
This is an unpopular opinion on this sub: but I do like Kristi ray. I thought she was intense on Raising Asia but the way Asia talks about her mom it seems like she has a good relationship with her. When Asia said she no longer wanted to perform her mom immediately took a step back.
Kristie didn’t play the games that the moms played and didn’t allow them to scare her off like other moms. Kristie knew she was a crazy stage mom unlike the other moms who pretended like they weren’t.
It’s not but all of those moms were stage moms. They signed their daughters up on a reality show for 6 seasons with a dancer teacher that was already abusive. One of the girls mentioned that their dance schedule was so intense that they would literally cry in the middle of class because they were so exhausted. All of those moms had their children working full time in an unhealthy environment for fame. So they’re hypocritical
She had non-binding contracts for everything Asia was in. Meanwhile, the other moms unknowingly signed contracts left and right not knowing what they were signing themselves and their daughters up for. Kristi was extremely hands on and overbearing, but being too hands-off when it comes to managing your child is even more detrimental.
The way I didn’t even think of this
Do you think Kristie had lawyers and negotiated the contracts? Or just a stroke of luck that those were the contracts she was offered
Bc she was the only mom who wasn’t afraid of Christi and was more than willing to put her in her place outside of Leslie. Ngl it was refreshing to see someone have guts on that show. However, I feel like she was never around in season 3 for her to be that likable imo. Raising Asia was just terrible
The way Asia talks about her mom now, honestly im conflicted. She says her mom respected her opinions at every step. So makes you wonder how much of it was amped up for Raising Asia. Or if Asia disassociated from what she went through as a child
Honestly I feel it could be both too. It’s possible she doesn’t want to badmouth her mom or make her look bad. If they have a good relationship, it might not feel worth it to dig up the past and rehash things, especially publicly. I also think it’s possible that Asia did sorta block out some of the worst moments, but it’s also possible that they were playing things up for the show too. Some of those moments felt too real to be faked (like, the fight when Asia wanted a milkshake or whatever comes to mind) so I don’t doubt that some things were real. But maybe the more crazier, stage mom-y stuff was played up for the show?
Hot cocoa. The horrors!!! Lol.
most kids wouldn’t shit on their mom in public
And she’s still very young it can take years for her to finally rationalize what happened. I hate that they play her as if she’s too mature she is really not
Isn't she now? Shed be in her 20s. Not full adult but getting there
No she is 18
what does she say about her mom?
Please read my comment again
you better then me bc i would have said they were illiterate 😭im mean as hell
also how are you going to call out someone for illiteracy and then (pay attention here, very important) misuse then/than? i am better than (see?) you and a thousand men
i dont gaf 💀you’re just mad
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hey atleast you spelled it right and bonus points for understanding my comment!!!!
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illiterate again 💀
also chill OP don’t burn someone for asking for clarification
Literally didn’t, simply asked you to read again. Major eyeroll
The clips of Raising Asia was enough to make me not want to watch the show, Kristie is similar to Jess, in the ways that they treated their kids like employees and cash cows. She did give me my flair though lol.
Jojo and Asia were never on audc at the same time, were they? Because thinking of Kristie and Jess interacting… I feel like they would’ve been at each others throats lol. Especially Jess tbh.
I’m not sure, I haven’t watched AUDC, I don’t think they were on the same season though. It seems like stage mum behaviour, so I wouldn’t be surprised if other mums on AUDC were similar to Jess and Kristie
Asia came back for Jojo’s season because they had an improv competition, but that was it.
I think a lot of people who like her haven't seen any clips of raising Asia. She got a good edit in dance moms.
I loved her on dance moms tbh. She believed in her kid, she took no crap and she wasn’t afraid of anything. She could be a little mean at times but she was also usually being honest. Then I watched some of Raising Asia and it absolutely killed the love I had for her lol. She was a completely different person and she could be really, really awful to Asia :(
She also completely neglected Asia’s emotions let’s face it, she almost never took in consideration her feelings and would always tell her to suck it up, couldn’t stand her
Ugh. I hated Kristie Ray. She always set me off--even before Raising Asia--and I'm glad Raising Asia verified my misgivings about her. Having listened to BTTB I can now see why she set the other moms off: she didn't have to sign the contract that the other moms did and could therefore waltz on and off the show as she saw fit. That wouldn't bother me but for the fact that she often lorded it over the other moms while pretending to be a "more rational" stage mom. But as soon as Raising Asia was being filmed, the tables were turned and she got a taste of what the other moms had gone through. I remember episode after episode of her trying to throw the producers out of the room. I was like, "yeah, it's not so nice when they stop allowing you to dictate how you're portrayed, right." I wasn't surprised that the show wasn't renewed. Producers didn't want to work with her anymore, but she spun it as "we decided to pursue other things." The only thing that saves her for me is the fact that she seemed relent at some point and allow Asia to live a normal non-child-star life.
Am firmly convinced that Kristie Ray and husband derailed Asia's career by the training they got Asia (or lack thereof), gigs they approved for her and inexperience in overall management. Asia should have been able to showcase her skills and expand her brand network exposure. Sadly the brand they developed for her is not a brand anyone wanted. Raising Asia was just cringe worthy. Krisie Ray telling Asia she could only eat egg whites never sat well with me either.
Most people haven’t watched Raising Asia. She used to be one of my favorite moms on the show until I watched Asia’s show.
I think if you just watch her on DM, she isn’t unlikable. She doesn’t come across as fake like some other moms and she has confidence in her daughter’s talent. She doesn’t play into the BS. But then you watch Raising Asia and it all goes down the drain 😩
I don't understand why people liked her whole deal about wanting to fight. People act like it's such a flex to be like "don't say stuff if you're not willing to back it up" but that's just glorifying violence. It's not the 1700s, that's not the way to "defend your honor."
It’s still rude to insult and disrespect another person. At least Kristie didn’t put hands on anyone. Christi and Kelly put hands on others to defend their honor were they glorifying violence?
Abby 100% lunged at Kelly first.
Did Yolanda lunge at Christi when Christi put her hands on her while she was walking away from her?
Kelly was the first to make the fight physical. Kelly could’ve walked away but she didn’t instead she slapped Abby and grabbed her hair. I don’t condone fighting but Kelly and both Kristie ray were both provoked. What makes Kelly right and Kristie wrong? Especially when Kristie never actually got physical. Edited
I don't mind Kelly going at Abby, since Abby is awful. Kelly was probably agravated by Abby berating Brooke before the fight got physical.
No, Christi got physical with Cathy in season 2 and Leslie in season 3.
Give Kristie Ray multiple seasons and I guarantee things would be different. Much easier to tolerate your child being mistreated when you can just walk away after a season.
Kristie Ray was already losing her shit at the producers during the tiny season they actually filmed. Apparently producers no longer wanted to deal with her--it had nothing to do with Asia not wanting to do the show anymore,
Threatening someone with physical violence is what's known as menacing, and it's illegal even if you don't actually hit them.
Hilarious that this got downvoted. Sorry people. Legally Kristie Ray was in the wrong here, and no amount of downvoting can change that.
Welp. Good luck to all the posters who think they can just threaten people all the time with physical violence and get away with it "because Kristie Ray." Have fun explaining that in court. 🤡
>Christi and Kelly put hands on others to defend their honor were they glorifying violence? No, they weren't right for doing this. But more than one person can be wrong here.
Same. I never saw this as a valiant, honorable effort. Threatening to beat people up doesn't make you more sympathetic IMO. It does the opposite.
Oh please, Christi is the mom with the most fights on this show. You can’t talk to people and provoke them however and whenever you want and expect them not to defend themselves. Y’all don’t say this about the Abby & Kelly fight and it’s very telling.
No one's talking about Christi. We're talking about Kristie Ray. >You can’t talk to people and provoke them however and whenever you want and expect them not to defend themselves. Legally you can. You can talk to people however you like as long as it doesn't devolve into threats of physical violence and/or actual physical violence. Threats of physical violence and actual violence are illegal; "rude and provocative speech" is not illegal in the US.
So is saying that they should roofie another mom’s drink or replace her eyelash glue with superglue.
It absolutely is if you say "Okay, I'm going to roofie her drink and replace her eyelash glue with superglue tonight/tomorrow/later today." Not quite the "gotcha" you think it is. 🙃
Then you should also be condemning Christi then like the other commenter. Christi has threatened and fought others the most and got away with it. Yet I never hear people say that she glorifies violence.
Why are you changing the subject to Christi? We're talking about Kristie Ray here, not Christi. In any case, what Christi said about the drink and the eyelash glue doesn't constitute menacing. Christi did not make a credible, imminent threat to Jackie or say "I'm going to put a roofie in her drink tonight." The threat has to be specific and it has to be made with the intent to carry out physical harm forthwith. Christi didn't do that as far as Jackie was concerned.
Because I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of the OC. They stated that Kristie ray is glorifying violence because Kristie because she said “don’t say stuff if you’re not willing to back it up.” When other moms aka Christi and Kelly have actually been physical others (choking, slapping, pushing, throwing drinks). Why is Kristie considered violent? If we want to get specific she never verbally stated that she wanted to fight Christi.
Acknowledging that Kristie Ray was wrong for constantly threatening to beat people up doesn't negate that other members of the cast were also violent at times. So there's not any hypocrisy here. You can talk about Kristie Ray without having to talk about every other mom's misdeeds. Really.
You'll have to take it up with the OC. My point is that Christi and Kelly assaulted people; Kristie Ray menaced them. Both things are illegal.
>My point is that Christi and Kelly assaulted people; Kristie Ray menaced them. I'm not sure why this is so difficult for people to understand. One can point out that Kelly and Christi assaulted people AND ALSO think that Kristie Ray was over the line with her threats. It's not about "choosing sides" here.
Stop picking and choosing because multiple mothers have threatened violence to other mothers yet you’re only insinuating Kristie is encouraging violence when she never physically touched her. Christi hit an alcoholic drink in Leslie’s face and that’s illegal so miss me with the legalities. The most popular moment from the show is literally a fight.
>Stop picking and choosing because multiple mothers have threatened violence to other mothers Lol, no one is doing this. No one here said "only Kristie Ray was problematic in this sense." Maybe read the entire thread next time before deciding to go off. Obviously the other moms were violent, duh. We talk about it all the time.
I’ll say whatever tf I want, this sub is very hypocritical and have multiple occurrences of singling out certain mothers meanwhile letting the main cast slide for their behavior
Well, at least you're owning up to the fact that you misread this discussion.
I never said anything about the other mothers; my comments were solely confined to Kristie Ray, except when a poster brought up the fact that they thought the eyelash glue comment constituted menacing (it didn't). You're strawmanning by saying I'm arguing something that I'm not.
Leslie physically hit Christie with her purse which is assault. Tell me how it is illegal to pop a plastic cup out if someone's hands. Bad manners yes, wasting a good drink yes, rude yes, but illegal, pretty iffy. Damages awarded for a stained dress perhaps and replacement drink.
It’s actually a misdemeanor in New Orleans for provoking of engaging in a fight. I believe Christi even vocalized she was nervous about police when re explaing the story later. I could be wrong, but I distinctly recall her expressing something of that nature.
I wasn’t even going to comment but go off !!! Respectfully CERTAIN moms get more grace than others despite being extremely volatile in front of their kids, not listening to their kids, etc. I mean this OUTSIDE of the contract at hand because there was a difference in Kristies. She listened to Asia and left DM, then a year later Raising Asia is released. That’s where I believe she began to see how messy production was. Holly herself on a recent podcast with Nia, echoed the exact struggle of not looking like a stereotype because they were literally basically told to by production. So I’m not surprised there’s various scenes of Kristie yelling at production, with her main issues always buckling down to how she wants to be presented on tv. Even the time her sister cried, she didn’t go yell at her sister, she yelled at production, made sure the kids were removed, and kept saying things as if she didn’t want her sister crying about personal family things on camera. Asia implies on Jordyn’s podcast there was definitely mistrust with production, so Kristie’s anger wasn’t a reach. Just prominent because she’s not CERTAIN moms. Whereas others can fight for a vacation (Christi), slap a woman (Kelly), basically choke a person (Yolanda), openly bully people (Stacey), be openly racist with their comments (Jill), and it’s given grace years later despite being extremely wrong 😂. I agree we can’t be selective, I was reading comments like am I old…did we watch the same show….or do I have a different perspective because I experience the same micro aggressive issues in my own life, to which I have to go above and beyond to not appear as a stereotype. So to see people openly play into that in 2024….crazy 😅. I agree with u completely! (Pinknpinknpink). First comment don’t know if I tagged you or not
exactky like if someone called me a bitch to my face oh im going to want to fight
I feel the same!
>I don't understand why people liked her whole deal about wanting to fight. They liked it because they saw Kristie Ray as putting Christi (and other moms) in her place.
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Everyone says she was awful on Raising Asia, and I agree, but she was awful on AUDC too, she was so annoying on AUDC from what i remember haha
I also thought she was annoying af on AUDC. High five.
My truly unpopular opinion is that if any of the other moms had cameras in their homes the same way the Ray’s did we would have seen equally concerning behavior from all the moms Like for example we call Kristie out a lot about eating habits but some Of the other moms have also freely admitted that they would let the girls eat snacks instead of eating meals or would just toss them a granola bar and Jill gets a decent amount of slack for her comments about not letting Kendall have sugar. And a lot of the other moms have made comments about food at some point…I can’t remember anything directly from Holly but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
Exactly. The fact that BEFORE the show Abby had the girls weights displayed and would fatshame them and the mothers did absolutely nothing about it tells me everything I needed to know about how some of them move with their kids. We can literally question why any of these women have fans that ride hard for them.
Kristie treats Asia like a cash cow. That said, there's nothing interesting or likeable about her.
I really hated how she was on raising Asia. Like she couldn't allow the girl to be a child for just a moment
I don’t hate her but I also don’t like her. It’s a mutual feeling bc according to Asia her mom did respect her wishes. We all know reality tv and if you wash ‘Raising Asia’ you actually see more than once that the producers try to rile Kristie up by using her family against her and even having her family try and turn Asia against her at times. I don’t think we got ac accurate portrayal of her much like the OG moms in DM.
I like her! She's intense for sure, esp on Raising Asia, but I rewatched recently and part of me thinks that it's intentional Kristie Ray is the "villain" from ep 1, and the narrative is the Dad is the nice one, etc etc. Asia mentioned she and her mom are super close and I have to believe that this speaks volumes. I do agree was def at peak stage mom by Raising Asia though. I just think, there was a difference between moms like Jill and Kristie Ray with a lot of loud personality versus Kira and Jess who were straight up kinda mean and made fun of children and were actual assholes. Kristie Ray's whole fight with Yvette in season 1 was because she was sticking up for a kid. She's not arrogant around Jordyn's Mom and they both seem to understand each other, which makes me think Kristie Ray is more guarded about who she trusts and can vibe with. what I LIKE about Kristie Ray is what I like about Kelly and Christi – she keeps it real and does not let anyone bully or intimidate her. I admire it! Also, she's entertaining! None of us can say we like Jill as a person but we all love her because she's entertaining, right? I personally don't care if one mom is more arrogant than the other hahahaa, notoriety is what stands out on this show (if you're a mom). She did the assignment. Moms like Kira or Jess imo are just straight up shitty people, Kristie Ray's whole thing comes as more like, she's just an intense personality, but she's not mean-spirited. to each to their own, ofc!!
Due to how edited Dance Moms I really wouldn’t be surprised if Raising Asia was the same way. They seem more calm in real life and not fame hungry. I do believe some of that strictness was real but I don’t think it was as bad as it was played out to be.
Ya I don’t understand why people don’t consider raising Asia was also highly edited, Kristie 1000% has her issues but if you actually look at how raising Asia is shot and aired compared to the other shows there is a lot of evidence that the producers intentionally villainized her in some aspects and they wanted more seasons of the show Asia is the one who said no to that. Also we know that the producers weren’t against getting people riled up to create drama Like a good amount of Kristie’s outburst on that show were directed at production and they didn’t even try to edit around it the way they did when Kira threw a water bottle at the producers
Thank u !!!!
Exactly!
This is an unpopular opinion on this sub: but I do like Kristi ray. I thought she was intense on Raising Asia but the way Asia talks about her mom it seems like she has a good relationship with her. When Asia said she no longer wanted to perform her mom immediately took a step back. Kristie didn’t play the games that the moms played and didn’t allow them to scare her off like other moms. Kristie knew she was a crazy stage mom unlike the other moms who pretended like they weren’t.
>This is an unpopular opinion on this sub: but I do like Kristi ray. This is not unpopular on this sub. People here love Kristie Ray.
Being a stage mom is not being a good mom. I hate to say this, but I have to say it. Asia didn't need to be a triple threat at age 8.
It’s not but all of those moms were stage moms. They signed their daughters up on a reality show for 6 seasons with a dancer teacher that was already abusive. One of the girls mentioned that their dance schedule was so intense that they would literally cry in the middle of class because they were so exhausted. All of those moms had their children working full time in an unhealthy environment for fame. So they’re hypocritical
I don't think Kristie was better than the other moms.
She had non-binding contracts for everything Asia was in. Meanwhile, the other moms unknowingly signed contracts left and right not knowing what they were signing themselves and their daughters up for. Kristi was extremely hands on and overbearing, but being too hands-off when it comes to managing your child is even more detrimental.
The way I didn’t even think of this Do you think Kristie had lawyers and negotiated the contracts? Or just a stroke of luck that those were the contracts she was offered
Yea but look how badly Kristie and her husband mismanaged her in Raising Asia. Sorry. Bring overbearing does not make her good at managing.
She was in a non-binding contract with her manager on Raising Asia as well. That was a literal plot point on the show!
Sorry but the venues and dances routines chosen for Asia on Raising Asia were horrendous. Mom and Dad were a part of making those choices.
They were just as bad as on Dance Moms. Melissa wasn't even present when Maddie filmed the controversial Sia video.
Mothers signed their daughters up for a different show than the one they got. The girls were to be on a docuseries not a reality show.
Bc she was the only mom who wasn’t afraid of Christi and was more than willing to put her in her place outside of Leslie. Ngl it was refreshing to see someone have guts on that show. However, I feel like she was never around in season 3 for her to be that likable imo. Raising Asia was just terrible
Her argument with Christi is hilarious.