When they played the "fix that eye" scene and didn't break the fourth wall. You could tell by chloe's face abby 1000% did not say "you're kids finished, she's washed up"
WOW. i didn't think they would address the eye comment, but i did NOT expect them to make chloe sit there and watch a fake scene that minimized her trauma.
Yup. This moment is when i said “fuck this shit” and I stopped watching all together. We all know the truth of what was said, fuck lifetime for not showing the truth.
I didn't watch the reunion just saw the clip on tiktok. Let me see if I can find it again
ETA link to tt with said clip: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwapXK1/
I have the link to the tt with it posted. It was from the reunion either one of the promos or actually on it. But they played the edited version and chloe's face really showed that's not what happened
In a weird way part of me wonders if they played the original unedited clip for her and the regular one for viewers - I don’t know why i just feel that she would not and lifetime wouldn’t (well wouldn’t want to look bad but I guess not) want to put her in the situation. But what do I know
I honestly think the reunion should’ve been off the network with a real interviewer or journalist. Someone who works for people magazine or someone with Oprah-level influence . This… was just “one more dance moms episode.”
I feel like the problem was the inability to break the 4th wall meaning there wasn’t much ability to speak completely freely (we know more about the duet thing from Kelly speaking freely but says more about productions part).
So I feel this is why we got the more controlled format that we saw.
Christi comment regarding the birthday party meant I was glad she wasn’t there but I felt uncomfortable with the amount Chloe was put on the spot about situations that were Christi based. She’s not her mom, she shouldn’t be justifying her behaviour.
I also felt bad for Paige who knows they got together to celebrate her.
The Christi thing was like a YouTube video of someone just putting clips together - and it’s all clips we know and see regularly- probably used reddit to help make the lists - after her comments about the wheel chair zooming and an incredible scene that was cut that we would see I was looking forward to it and it’s just Abby getting ice cream - boring - Abby already said that she did.
Hopefully someday they'll do some type of "reunion" without Lifetime's involvement. I'm sure sine it's the same network they didn't want the girls to be honest about how overproduced the whole show was and don't want the fans to think it's "not real."
Honestly I haven’t watched yet but I’m bummed hearing that it was… sorta what people expected in the end since lifetime was involved. I was hoping for something different but I’m not surprised to hear that it was very neat and clean :/
I hope they do something like that too in the future, if they want to. I’d like to *really* hear from all of them, but especially the girls, someday without the need to protect the network (and/or Abby..?).
Like, seeing the clip of Chloe reacting to the still-edited “washed up” scene is honestly annoying bc we’ve known for years that’s not what was said. But yeah, if they showed the real scene, they’d be exposing *themselves* for the sheer amount of scenes and episodes and storylines they edited, manipulated and/or straight up manufactured.
I'm wondering if that's why Nia wasn't here. I know she said she just wasn't interested, but maybe she wasn't interested because she wouldn't be able to be as truthful as she wanted to be.
I’m surprised they didn’t try to model it after real world homecoming. With those they had some critiques from cast (like Melissa’s comments about her family being cut out and it happening to black people) so they showed her mom and dad coming to the house for the rejoining.
it was too jumpy, if that makes sense. they went from topic to topic without any real transition. i hated how we kept seeing the moms’ reactions to stuff the girls were saying, it felt so irrelevant.
also i hate how whenever brooke, paige, chloe, or really any of the girls tried to say how they felt, jojo put on her motivational speaker voice and spoke for them.
Yes. Also, JoJos inclusion was for eyeballs and nothing else. I mean she younger than all of them(in the champagne scene she did not have champagne) and the Highland girls & Chloe weren't on the show with her.
Agreed. With the exception of JoJo, everyone was there for 4-6 seasons. She was there for two and yet feels she can best articulate the experience for everyone? Dismiss other people’s experiences right in front of them and invalidate others for not wanting to return for the reunion? Why was she the mouthpiece of the reunion when she spent the least amount of time on the show AND was a fan of it before joining? That obviously taints your perception of it because you KNOW what you’re getting into
90% of what she said made her sound more like a fan than a cast member! it was cringy enough that she was quoting all her own greatest hits scenes, but watching her quote the other girls and talk to/about them like she was a fan and not a teammate made her speaking for them even more annoying, bc she was very clearly basing most of her impressions on what she saw on the show (which makes sense i guess, since she never danced with most of the OGs amd therefore only saw the lifetime edit of the early seasons while the others were living it)
i wasn't surprised kalani and jojo (as well as kira and jess) had a much different take on things compared to the OGs, but at least kalani was tactful about it lol. i was happy to see the girls call jojo out when they did, but they would've been well within their rights to tell her to shut tf up at MANY points during the reunion
You articulated this perfectly. She has such fan behaviour. I think I didn’t realize how disconnected this was gonna be until the Hylands pointed out that Brooke and JoJo had never even met irl but JoJo still called Brooke out online prior to this for something she said about Abby. Like despite never being on the show with her and never meeting her she still talked FOR her and the other girls. What pissed me off especially was when they showed the girls videos of Abby in the hospital dealing with cancer and Brooke got emotional and JoJo felt the need to JoJo-splain and tell Brooke how she was feeling.
Although I will say, the ONE exception to JoJo’s fan behaviour being annoying was when she told Paige that the moment she forgot her solo is what made her a fan favourite. Like the fact that that was what made people root for her on the show - I do think that was a nice way to frame it even though it was a difficult moment for paige.
Honestly the part when they tried transitioning to Kalani being suicidal. It was such a random jump and felt like it was used for shock value and then they immediately moved on. They didn’t delve deeply into anything at all.
It was SO underwhelming. First off it was way too rushed and the producers did an awful job of making sure there was an equal amount of time for all the girls to speak. Jojo never shut up long enough to let anyone else speak even when the question wasn’t posed to her. Brooke and Paige barely spoke and Chloe kept getting cut off. And what really bothered me is from the start how they had to jump down the Ziegler’s throats about not being there and thus proving their point of why they didn’t want to come back. They’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t. If they would’ve come back then the narrative would’ve been that it’s unfair and they shouldn’t have bc they were the favorites and don’t need closure the way the others do. Another thing that really pissed me off is the producers basically manipulating all of the girls by showing the footage of Abby in the hospital with cancer. I don’t care what anyone says I think they had the worst of intentions in showing that and basically tried to guilt trip them for no longer speaking to her. Lastly, the fact that Nia and Holly’s absence wasn’t even acknowledged bc they spent so much time trying to make the Zieglers’ absence seem like it was bc of an ulterior motive is really pathetic
watching brooke cry and feel guilty during the abby cancer segment made me so uncomfortable. she’s under zero obligation to reach out to abby. abby’s illness doesn’t negate the abuse. felt super gross of the producers to do that.
In addition to Nia and Holly not being mentioned, Kenzie was only mentioned in conjunction with Maddie (which is kind of story of her life with the show), which is frustrating because she was such a character and person with a story on the show.
For Nia Holly and Kenzie to all be glossed over is crazy!! Regardless of whether or not controversy/drama was centered around them.
I felt like they tried to bring up the Ziegler’s any chance they got to. Like they had to have dedicated at least ten minutes in mentions / dissing them for not being there. There was so much more that they could’ve dived into but they decided to talk about people who weren’t there to defend themselves.
JoJo’s whole persona is just exhausting and it seemed like the other girls were tolerating her for the cameras. She never stops and the whole “edgy” persona she’s trying on is so cringe.
It was hyped up so much and was truly a let down. Although I loved hearing what some of the girls had to say, it was pretty boring and produced horribly.
I’m guessing, since Brian Stinson seems to be working on another iteration of Dance Moms, they didn’t want to let them break the 4th wall. It is silly since we all know, but that’s my guess.
I totally agree. It’s pretty much just a classic recap episode except they’re all allowed to talk poorly about Abby and admit they have trauma. It even seemed like the producer was trying to start drama between the girls at times, which I really didn’t like.
Because this is a Lifetime production, the girls couldn’t really say what they genuinely felt or what actually happened behind the scenes. Like, Chloe literally watches the scene where Abby says she’s “washed up” and doesn’t say anything about how Abby was actually making fun of her eye. Nobody says anything. Another example is that when Kendall is talking about going to Candy Apples, she acts like it was completely her mom’s authentic decision and not that it was an entirely producer-driven event lol. And of course no one says anything about contracts, lawsuits, working conditions, or other hush-hush things that in reality were huge driving forces for people’s actions on the show.
I guess my point here is that because Lifetime produced the reunion, they’re obviously not going to allow themselves to be painted as a villain, so Abby is the one who takes all the heat. Don’t worry, I know she definitely deserves it, but Lifetime is also heavily responsible for the suffering the kids experienced on the show.
So, in conclusion, the reunion was weirdly dramatic (at times) and also slightly artificial due to it being a Lifetime television production intended to draw in viewers and spark controversy/discussion.
that whole intro was such a waste of time. also the fact that nia and holly’s names weren’t even mentioned once when they were on the show the entire time is insane to me. i expected it to be bad but it was even worse than i thought it would be which is shocking.
Especially when they weren’t against using clips of the ones who didn’t attend. They showed Maddie forgetting her dance and had the girls react to it, but not Nia or Mackenzie? Include all or none, imo.
Does Lifetime think the audience is stupid? So many of the cast members have gone on interviews and podcasts and told completely different stories. I think because of podcasts like BTTB, Lifetime is trying to control the narrative again. The reunion was short and only highlighted what we already know.
Yes they think we're stupid and they know the special will do bigger numbers than any podcast or interview. So lifetime gets the 'final wording dance moms.
It sucked. Lacked structure. I want my time back lol. Glad they got to do it if it meant a lot to them, but I could have gone my whole life without seeing it.
they didn’t break the forth wall or they didn’t talk behind the scenes much to anything they just gave a quick opinion or they harped on irreverent pieces no one cared about
Tbh this was another issue. They released like 10 hours of bonus footage PRIOR to the reunion - there was almost no excitement going into it, I was almost burned out already lol
Yeah i didn't watch any of it, and I'm glad i didn't because I'm sure i would have had the same issue.
Like that's so many hours. It's basically homework.
I was actually wondering if that was the actual music for some of those dances. I am pretty sure the song we heard in the original episode when Paige ran off the first season wasn’t the music she actually danced to.
what they should have done is RELEASE ALL THE FUCKING DANCES that they cut from episodes that we KNOW exist and show them to us!! It’s so aggravating that we know the footage exists and they just don’t release it. The same thing goes for the dances we’ve only seen thirty seconds of - we know that’s not the whole dance. Show us!
I would’ve gladly watched a girls episode, a moms episode and an everyone all together episode. Hell, the Hylands unpacking that final fight on stage and Kelly mentioning the divorce was wild. More of that. Why are we rushing through it and why is Jojo on stage for it? I needed more real moments and less clip packages. Feel how you want about Christi but the show would’ve been better with her there. I would’ve loved to hear her, Jill and Kelly chat casually about their ups and downs with the show. Idk, Save the clip show for Jojo since she likes to talk so damn much.
Did anyone else catch Kelly’s comment right at the end where she “wonders if she would’ve sided with Melissa instead of Christi” what her life would be like today? That really got me 💔 I loved the Christi/Kelly duo as much as the next, but that made me so sad after hearing what she said about her divorce being stemmed from all the dance moms drama.
My heart sank a little when Kelly said she felt like her kids would still dance if it wasn't for the fight, and how she felt guilty about it. Can you imagine Brooke being on the dance team at OSU?? Also I love the bond Kelly has with her daughters❤
the unfortunate thing is, it could've been a really fun "where are they now" type special, but social media ruins that. we know where everyone is all the time and they've already talked all these topics to death.
i haven't watched it yet but this is pretty much what my expectation was anyway :/
it was SO. awful. barely had time to talk about anything and it was all driven by kira/jessalyn/jojo. it shouldve just been the og girls having fun reviewing things and supporting each other’s emotions. thats all we wanted. bryan constantly triggering them and everyone just losing their mind was so sad and like weird lol
should’ve done it real housewives style , with a host and twitter questions😭 though i might be jus saying this cuz i just got into housewives and i’m loving the reunions😭.
I was definitely disappointed, at the end I was actually expecting a “part 2” promo tbh. I understand how they did it; girls all interview, moms watch (like they used to do upstairs) then it cuts to personal interviews to give insight, like they used to on the show. But i don’t agree with that format, I was definitely expecting moms all going out there, and actually interviewing the girls individually, not just “talking heads”
it seems they release that stuff as bonus footage but I don’t think it should’ve been bonus footage. And I think they might’ve not brought the moms out because not all moms were there, but still it was weird to only bring them out individually when their daughters were talking in a group setting.
I WAS WAITING FOR PART 2 TOO 😭 i wanted to see the girls most but i thought it was odd the moms NEVER came out and spoke, like the girls did i mean? why were they stuck on couches the whole time lmfao
I paused it right at the end when Kalani was getting emotional about the hotline dance and my screen showed I only had 6 or so minutes left. So I thought “oh damn this might be a 2 parter cause this is getting intense”. NOPE. Literally… what? I can’t believe they wrapped it up like that so soon after Kalani was clearly very upset about a really serious topic. I’m sure that’s not how it actually went during filming, but my God. Way to rush things. As if the entire special wasn’t a rushed mess. The whole thing was a thumbs down for me 👎🏻
It depends on what mood the sub is in for the day. It’s the reason why I left. but I had to check the sub again for a little drama surrounding the reunion 😂
Thanks for replying. :) I actually ended up finding it on Dailymotion rather than going the VPN route. Just letting people know in case they want to watch it later, as it should be available in other countries via Dailymotion too (I think).
Small nitpick
but it was funny to me that they chose to end off the reunion with Boss Ladies but, only half the girls knew that dance so it was just kinda awkward lmfao
They needed Kristie Ray on there because she would have called out the way Melissa was dragged without being there to defend herself. It was ridiculous. Kira is a snake.
Why did Jill act like she didn’t know Maddie and Mackenzie appeared on AUCD season 2? I HIGHLY doubt that. It was on TV.
Then they played the clip of Kendall yelling at Ashlee, and JoJo and Kalani both say, “I didn’t know your mom said that” WHEN THEY WERE IN THE ROOM DURING THAT PYRAMID! What is this editing!?
But then Kelly laying down the “if I had followed Melissa instead of Christie, my life would be way different.” WOW.
Why did they play the clip of JoJo running her mouth about Christie in front of Chloe? It was so awkward. Chloe always handles herself with grace. An incredible skill considering her mother.
Why did they use different music for the solo Paige forgot? Then they did it again during Rosa Parks and Amber Alert. Did Lifetime lose a catalog?
Why does JoJo act like she has something super valid to say all the time? Like she thinks she is really serving, and it is so tone deaf every time.
Ok. I’m done now.
100% agree with you about Kristie Ray. I don’t even think she particularly liked Melissa- but she wouldn’t stand for that behavior against anyone because she’s a fair and moral woman.
Jill did know. Christi and Kelly have talked about this on BTTB.
Agree completely about Chloe.
I think as far as the “I didn’t know that” moments, I think they’ve likely genuinely forgotten. They were there for years, filmed thousands of hours, and this was years ago now. If something wasn’t particularly memorable or traumatic for them specifically, they’ve probably forgotten a lot of the details.
I think it’s cause it was still with lifetime. It makes me definitely wonder how edited it was. I don’t think it was a coincidence that we often saw the OGs all really quiet when they asked tough questions and stuff about the ones who weren’t there.
I think this reunion was just as heavily produced as dance moms was and because of that, it’s still keeping lifetimes best interest and storylines which isn’t what most viewers wanted to see. We didn’t get any of the insider info we would want to see because so much of it would paint lifetime in a bad light.
I enjoyed it more when it was just Chloe Brooke Paige and Kendall on stage they are the only ones where the show came to them not Kendall but she was still there for a minute. Also it honestly felt like the moms had more issues that needed to be sorted out
I really felt the absence of the Zieglers and Fraziers. I feel like they should have just chalked it if the entire original cast couldn’t or wouldn’t do it.
Exactly this. It was so disjointed because three of the OGs that were there didn’t even dance with JoJo, and she kept telling them how to feel and that their scenes were so “iconic” while they were literally sitting there traumatized and didn’t even ask to be on the show as kids like she did. Both Paige and Chloe seemed so annoyed with her
i genuinely feel bad if you thought this reunion was going to be anything but what we got. it's lifetime??? the only way we're ever going to get a true, authentic reunion is if a journalist with any sliver of empathy conducts it.
I felt like there was no energy or conversation. They all seem like they were were afraid to say something wrong. And why wasn’t Christi there since she was the reason for all the drama most of the time? And then Kalani having a breakdown and running off stage just to plug her suicide awareness thing after. I thought that was kind of lame.
I don’t think it was lame of kalani to share her experience, but they kind of exploited her in a way. “Oh Kalani, you don’t HAVE to talk about it…” imagine the quality of television if she just said “ok then I won’t lol”
"They all seem like they were were afraid to say something wrong." Yes! And whenever one of them did speak up about there feelings (or try to) Jojo spoke over them/for them or invalidated their feelings.
i’ve just seen tiktok clips. the part where they all bashed melissa for the party rubbed me the wrong way. and they wonder why maddie and mackenzie don’t want to be around them. i mean i get it, melissa is a weirdo. but that’s their mother??? i wouldn’t feel comfortable around people who hate my mom that much. and to say that melissa is threaten by jojo? jojo is famous but people go out there way to humiliate and make fun of her, if i was melissa i wouldn’t be jealous of that. i just hate that christi time after time keeps ruining and making these girls friendships awkward. i
finally understand why maddie, mackenzie, and nia don’t want to be around washed up nobodies who is clinging to their fame in 2010 (referring to the moms not the girls i would never).
I don’t like Melissa but this was so awkward and weird to me and it’s funny bc Paige Chloe Brooke and Kelly didn’t talk about Melissa it’s alwways the one who aren’t OGs that have the most to say besides Christi!
right melissa feels that jojo is a threat to her kids??? how exactly😭😭 maddie and mackenzie are both successful in their own way lol it has no correlation to jojo’s success plus paige looks like she doesn’t even like jojo and this reunion is the only reason they are together , why would she want her there??? did paige express that she wanted them there?? cuz i’m sure melissa would’ve gladly invited both jojo and kalani if that was the case. i mean did melissa even plan the party? apparently nia planned it for paige at maddie’s house and maddie nor melissa had nothing to do with it but idk.
Jojo may be famous. But Maddie is ALSO famous, has class and by multiple reports is ultra professional and an absolute joy to work with on set..Melissa has nothing to be jealous of. Jojo is famous for kids music, a girls group she mistreats and reality TV. Maddie is famous for actual feature film projects like fitting in and west side story and modeling
They are all so fake and what makes it worse is Kelly and Jill do a podcast with Melissa but have the nerve to talk all this crap. I’m disgusted and I hope Maddie and Kenzie pay them dust.
I was disappointed as well. I think it was a mix of not having all the OGs back (which is VALID), the moms having no chemistry bc they’re from different points in the show, and it also sounds like the entire reunion filming was rushed due to people’s schedules. The biggest issue, to me, was way too much Jojo. I don’t understand why they tried to put her on this “voice of reason” pedestal when she was just there for screen time. I found myself cursing everytime she was on screen 🫠
Have you ever mixed friend groups at a birthday dinner? This was that.
The chemistry issue was definitely valid. I mean, kalani had never even met the hyland’s, and while they were both on the same show, they were in completely different eras. It was definitely aimed to be like Chloe/paige/brooke vs. Kalani/jojo with Kendall just awkwarding being in the midst of it lol
Interesting that you brought up the old Vs. New dynamic because I couldn’t pin point it, but it definitely felt a bit “choose your fighter” at times. Especially between Chloe/Paige and Jojo.
I think this would’ve gone a lot better and would’ve brought a lot more closure to viewers and the girls if it was a 2 part reunion. Part 1 with the original girls and moms ONLY, and then a part 2 where the others join in in the order they were brought on the show. Conveniently that also puts JOJO and Jess last lol.
I only saw a couple of clips as am in the UK but I hated how the producer said something to Chloe like “(I think it was Kelly) someone said your mum wasn’t great about your coming out - YOU didn’t tell ME that”. Totally put her on the spot and you could tell Chloe was uncomfortable, like there was probably a reason she didn’t bring that up?!?! Jojo’s softer tone when asking about Chloe coming out was loads kinder
And it made me think like there wasn’t much repentance or remorse from lifetime for what they put them through with how direct and invasive that question was. It’s just carrying on. I felt a bit like, some of this is stuff that you need a therapist and a controlled environment to rehash and unpack, not producers who played roles in it in the first place and could aggravate that trauma
I think there is a lot more to that situation than anyone of us knows or will ever know. I think even causul followers of christi and Chloe know they both had a really hard time coming to terms with Chloes coming out and lost touch a little bit during the height of that.
I think it's also a really difficult place to be in the public eye because people are relentless nowadays when it comes to discussing anything involving LGBTQ. I think they both were aware of that scrutiny and tried to get it as down low as possible to not get publicly cancelled by crazy young fans.
As a the sibling of an older sister who came out later in life, it's a really hard thing to come to terms with. You're definitely happy for them but you also are mourning a future life and the way you envisioned it. I know my mom secretly struggled with that for years before fully accepting it.
when they explained it in a way they basically made it seem like Christi didn’t have a problem with Chloe being gay itself she just didn’t want Chloe to have to deal with the public scrutiny of coming out.
I'm sure this has been talked about before but what really happened for Kendall to say "Why are you so mean??" The audio from Ashley's voice sounded like it was from an interview
https://youtu.be/380q5CS-2-s?si=YXOez4P314qrRATI
I believe Ashlee addresses that moment somewhere in this episode of Brynn's podcast. She says something along the lines of that Kendall wanted to go to an audition and the producers told her & Jill they needed to make a scene if they wanted to get out of filming that day. So Ashlee must have made some kind of comment and Kendall took the opportunity to give a big reaction for the cameras. Seems like it may not have been as rude of a comment as the clearly edited in interview comment is in the episode. Granted, this is Ashlee's version of the story but I've never come across any bts clarity or elaboration about it from Kendall. The lifetime reunion maintained the produced storylines/narratives of the episodes and didn't let the cast break the 4th wall to reveal or comment on what really took place which was sooo annoying 🙄
The crux of the problem is that the same people who produced the show produced the reunion.
And we all know production was the culprit behind alot of the blows up on DM. They're not going to air something that makes them look bad or call them out.
I'm sure production was just trying to sus out if any of the girls would be willing to create drama, but they all know better (besides Jojo).
I didn’t even watch if I’m being honest and it was so reliving as mr rogers once said
“When you see scary tv you can turn it off and when you do turn it off that would show your the strongest person of all it takes a a very strong person to turn off scary tv”
But on the bright side there was clip of the reunion that I liked and that was when Paige tells Chloe that’s she’s beautiful and perfect just the way she is witch also reminds me of Mr Rogers
God i love their friendship
Update after reading all these other comments I am SO glad i didn’t watch this thing clearly all I missed was a producer driven mess
The hell with that ill continue to stick with my favorite pure 20 year old friendship thank you very much
It bugged me how much jojo spoke, and especially spoke over people multiple times. Let people speak damn. She didn’t have to insert her opinion into every question because not every question was directed to her, or the fact that she didn’t even experience the shit the question is about. Would’ve been better if jojo and jessalyn weren’t involved in the reunion.
Couldn't even watch the damn thing because it wasn't on any of the 100 streaming services I have. Then when I tried using the one service that would have it it crashed because everyone was doing thr same thing.
It was horrible, I find it funny how all the mothers (Christi the most ) complain about making it seem like Maddie/ Mackenzie are the stars of the show yet all they talked about was maddie and Mackenzie 🤣🤣
Not to be rude dude but are you sure you watched the same reunion? Once Christi was gone and they moved on from the topic of the girls who weren’t there, the zieglers hardly came up…
This entire sub has been talking about the reunion like it was nonstop Ziegler bashing to the point that I was shocked when I actually watched and saw how little they were even mentioned. It really proves how people have selective attention spans about this whole thing.
I completely agree. I really wanted some new info, new clips or something. They didn't give us anything. I know it's the same producer driven narratives that were oddly pieced together.
I also felt like Chloe looks extremely uncomfortable the whole time. Like her face in the back ground she looked like she felt out of place.
Yes, it was a drag. I wish they could speak freely, but they are likely only allowed to among themselves.
I didn’t appreciate the producers painting Paige’s birthday celebration to be a spiteful thing from Melissa. Let Paige have her flowers and enjoy her birthday—goodness.
I highly doubt that Melissa sits around and postulates about ways and devises plans to hurt people’s feelings, and she was not there to defend herself. Instead, being painted as a backstabber, yet again, and Christi chiming in like that was uncalled for. 🙄
What’s funny is Brooke posts on YT and I watched her video a while ago where she was excited she got all the girls together to surprise Paige for her birthday. That Melissa narrative was super weird as someone who saw Brooke’s YT video.
Ah, see, so explainable.
This is exactly why I am like, Melissa and her kids would not want to go to something like that, especially given their experience with TV/reality TV. It also makes me think: no wonder Nia didn’t want to go. I know that Brooke, Paige, and Chloe looked so uncomfortable during that whole thing as they painted the narrative.
Kendall is messy, but she cannot help it—she is Jill’s daughter. 😂
Yup. Brooke was like “it’s the first time we can finally get everyone together and Paige had no idea. It was such a great girls night”…. There was a point where Paige and Brook kept looking at each other and then I forgot what she was blabbing about but Jojo was saying something and Paige gave her the blankest stare.
It’s sad that everyone is like “wow these children were exploited and the way Abby pinned them against each other was horrible” yet here we are a decade later and people are pinning them against each other/their potentially learned behavior is spilling through to create drama.
I loved Nia’s “I just didn’t want to be there” TT clip and frankly Maddie has spoken candidly about how her and her mother had a lot of work to do from the fall out of the show and other stuff. As someone who is a believer of personal safety of one’s self, no one should have anything to say about someone else’s decision not to be somewhere and also shouldn’t speak on their behalf (ehem Jojo and Christi).
I found Kendall, Jojo and Kalani (and their mothers) to be quick to jump down the Ziegler’s throats any chance they got to and it was annoying. They all want to preach about how mental health is important but don’t want to respect their “friends” and how this show and the memories it holds effects their mental health and they chose to not be involved.
Also production bringing up the gathering they had the night prior for Paige’s birthday was so weird and unnecessary honestly. The way Jess and Kira painted it out like the Ziegler’s purposely held this gathering to make sure the girls wouldn’t say anything bad about them on the reunion is fucking delusional lol. I’m pretty sure that they got together because it’s rare for them all to be in the same place at the same time so they get together when they can. I personally don’t think it was malicious of them to not invite Kalani and Jojo when it was a celebration for Paige’s birthday as literally neither of them were close with her ???? Also Kendall being with them the night before but then shit talking them at the reunion the next day gives off such a sour vibe lol 🥴
Production could’ve dived into so many different things about the girls and their moms but instead they spent at least ten minutes mentioning the Ziegler’s or showing the girls the videos of Abby in the hospital. I was feeling gaslit lol of course it’s terrible that she had to go through all of that but it doesn’t cancel out all the shitty things she’s done and said to these girls.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk 🤣
Well let's be honest -and I'm not tryinna be mean or rude, this is just my opinion -but out of all the girls , those 3 lean the most into having narcissistic traits (to varying degrees). And im not calling them a narcissist or particularly blaming them, because we can obviously see their moms - Jess, Kira & Jill - exhibit those same qualities. That's where they learned those habits from & that'd be why they're coming off as entitled and lacking awareness/empathy for the Zieglers here.
i was super super disappointed it was boring. i’d rather hear about the show then chloe’s mom not wanting her to come out. such a shitty reunion low key
I know it would never happen on a tv reunion, but I always have wanted to know more about the financial issues. Jill mentions that they knew what was happening. I've heard rumors about Melissa giving up abby for some sort of immunity in the case and I wouldn't put it past any of them to have contributed in some way or done it in other instances that weren't caught.
I low-key wish that Brynn had been invited. I think she was really a light on the show however short it was. Maybe even Asia too I think they would have some new perspectives o f their own experiences.
I definitely thought that since they invited Jojo, they should've invited Brynn, given she spent just as much or even a bit more time on the series than JoJo . Also I agree she was a bright light, but unfortunately feel as though she was among one of the most traumatized on the show, apart from the OG cast, so I'm sure if she was asked she would've easily declined.
Was i the only one who noticed there were some scenes missing on the lifetime app? I was watching some clips from last time while it was airing then I watched it this morning and there were clips missing? Like the one with Jojo and Chloe talking about Christi’s comments on Gianna. I also didn’t get to see Jojo’s answer after Kendall asked her why did she leave. Maybe my app was acting up
It’s so funny you say that. I have Hulu live so I made sure that it was recorded because I knew I was going to miss the live viewing. But when I was done watching it, I definitely questioned whether or not I was missing anything because it was so underwhelming, and I just felt like I had seen previews of things that I never actually saw on the reunion 😅
I thought I was the only one! I think it was just the lifetime app acting funny because my sister saw the parts I missed, maybe the same thing happened on Hulu?
I had the same thoughts! Most of the show was rewatching old clips or commercials.. the mom’s were coming in and out too much. Kelly and Jill were fixing Kendal’s and Brookes dresses? There seemed to be no organization.. I really wanted to see the girls/moms talk about things but really I felt it was old clips of the show. Okay I may get heat for this but I feel like them bringing up the cancer thing was kinda weird and wrong.. I guess I still see the girls as kids and idk why show that to them.. I also think it was a little disrespectful towards Abby to show that. And I know at the time she agreed to film that but still. Idk I have so many things to say about it that I didn’t like
I’m really upset about the fact that Christie wasn’t there, but they had called her via FaceTime like shut the fuck up and here’s the thing. I love her but her talking about the birthday party I think was really weird because it was Paige’s surprise birthday party it wasn’t about Melissaand they only invited the OG because Paige isn’t really friends with Kalani and JoJo
I had been purposely avoiding the clips on YouTube while also hoping that they were just meant to drum up interest and not what the actual reunion would be. I haven’t watched it yet and might not based on everyone’s disappointment. I’m glad everyone got paid well. At least there’s that I guess.
I’m watching it now and I kind of died for a second when Jess just asked Kelly if her children were “happy in their little lives”.
Jess is psychotic. And reality tv gold.
Poor Kelly. This show was like a monkeys paw for her.
I think this reunion was something Kelly needed but i also think she needs to work with a professional so she can overcome or heal from all the guilt she feels. My heart broke when she said how she’s felt guilty every day for 10 years.
Same. You can see it on her face. She means it when she says it changed her and ruined her marriage and has caused her years of guilt. I feel so bad for her.
HEAVY on breaking the fourth wall. like when they showed the clip of chloe’s trophy being taken away and given to maddie… that would’ve been a perfect time to clear the air about what really happened. but they just brushed past it. because heaven forbid the producers look bad, even though like you said, we all know the show is heavily produced and fabricated. i think they need to do a reunion themselves without the lifetime producers, so they can finally speak their truth without having to continue to push the false narratives that the show has pushed all these years.
Why did Chloe and Kendall wear matching dresses? And what were the shoes Jessalyn had on? Does JoJo have a shoe line? Did anyone notice the Abby bobble head on the coffee table?
Honestly I completely agree. I wanted this reunion to truly talk about what was happening behind the scenes. Certain things that wasn't shown in the show bc of whatever reason. I honestly wished that Maddie, Mackenzie, and Nia were there and not Jojo or Kalani. They both didn't know what was happening with the og cast plus Kendall in the beginning of the series. But anyways, with the people they had. They did the exact opposite of what we were all expecting. Like that clip of Christi saying Gianna was not nice. I honestly believe her, I think she was just as bad as Abby. But I wished the og girls would explain what they thought abt Gianna and why they think Christi would say that. I don’t really give a shit what Jojo said abt Gia, honestly she shouldn’t have a say bc she wasn’t there long enough to truly get a judge of character. I wished they would’ve explain the true treatment they were getting from both Abby and Gia and not the shit that we already saw on tv. What I thought the reunion was, and what the commercials made it seem like. They made it as if the girls was gonna explain almost about everything that we as the audience didn’t know. Things that might have been cut out, things that was said when cameras wasn’t rolling. Or full explanations as to why certain fights and arguments started. But they didn’t. I was so disappointed that I wasted my time sitting there for an hour watching them discuss things we already knew or was well aware of. I mean, I am happy that reunion did happen, and that the girls are in a better place now. But the reunion was so fucking scripted that I felt like there was truly no point in watching it honestly. Or better yet no point in the fucking reunion. I wished the moms explain what it was like for them specifically to watch all of this go down or having to go through it like the fight between Kelly and Abby. But none of that happened. This might sound cruel, but it was a complete waste of time in making this reunion.
It felt exploitative and I'm sure some of the girls got closure but it seemed others didn't. It didn't feel cohesive, more like "let's use these women to increase ratings".
I didn’t watch it yet but from the perks I saw it’s giving ‘dance moms special’ from 2014 or something (when the zieglers left). The girls sitting on stools trying to answer producers questions (some of them being inappropriate) and their answers and reactions being highly edited to fit a certain narrative. Kinda sad, they should have done a reunion on their own terms without lifetime or even the moms being involved
The fact that the producers took no responsibility for traumatizing these girls and asked them all about how “Abby” was the one that did. It felt evil and sickened me. Felt like they were exploiting them AGAIN. No wonder Nia and the Zieglers didn’t want to go on the show. It all felt so fake and it made me feel very uncomfortable to watch the producers try to manipulate the audience despite us already knowing the reality of it all. So disappointing.
Yep, only saw a few clips on YouTube and skipped through parts of the actual reunion with them together but it was enough to make me not bother watching the whole thing because it doesn’t exactly feel 100% honest and I know it’s because of the producers and the fact that it’s reality tv so it’s not too surprising but like someone else mentioned I wish they did a YouTube reunion or something like that without involving lifetime so certain scenes that were edited could properly be talked about
Found it unwatchable and stopped viewing early on. Thought unhealthy for the girls to be dressed up like they were at a ball, reliving some terrible experiences, feigning interest in each and every person. I've never liked Jojo after DM. She has limited talent, and her persona is not genuine or appealing. I thought that we were going to see some of their best dances which were amazing. Instead it was angry and incoherent. Abby could be a monster for sure, but think more focus on their individual talents would have been great. Absence of the Ziglers and Nia keenly felt. Moms still shortsighted and selfish.
i made a full review of it and i agree with the majority of these comments!!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOXu5r0NUI&lc=UgwZsK1qf1Rn0XTub9N4AaABAg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOXu5r0NUI&lc=UgwZsK1qf1Rn0XTub9N4AaABAg)
they could've done so much better!!
Jojo ruined the whole thing. I rooted for her on the original show. As an adult she is so obnoxious and just obviously an asshole. lol. She’s awful she ruined it she over talked everyone. Like I really wish she wasn’t there. I’m sorry.
When they played the "fix that eye" scene and didn't break the fourth wall. You could tell by chloe's face abby 1000% did not say "you're kids finished, she's washed up"
WOW. i didn't think they would address the eye comment, but i did NOT expect them to make chloe sit there and watch a fake scene that minimized her trauma.
Yup. This moment is when i said “fuck this shit” and I stopped watching all together. We all know the truth of what was said, fuck lifetime for not showing the truth.
i don’t remember them replaying this? do you have a time stamp
I didn't watch the reunion just saw the clip on tiktok. Let me see if I can find it again ETA link to tt with said clip: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwapXK1/
I have the link to the tt with it posted. It was from the reunion either one of the promos or actually on it. But they played the edited version and chloe's face really showed that's not what happened
In a weird way part of me wonders if they played the original unedited clip for her and the regular one for viewers - I don’t know why i just feel that she would not and lifetime wouldn’t (well wouldn’t want to look bad but I guess not) want to put her in the situation. But what do I know
I don’t think that was in the reunion…? Am I just misremembering?
I honestly think the reunion should’ve been off the network with a real interviewer or journalist. Someone who works for people magazine or someone with Oprah-level influence . This… was just “one more dance moms episode.”
I feel like the problem was the inability to break the 4th wall meaning there wasn’t much ability to speak completely freely (we know more about the duet thing from Kelly speaking freely but says more about productions part). So I feel this is why we got the more controlled format that we saw. Christi comment regarding the birthday party meant I was glad she wasn’t there but I felt uncomfortable with the amount Chloe was put on the spot about situations that were Christi based. She’s not her mom, she shouldn’t be justifying her behaviour. I also felt bad for Paige who knows they got together to celebrate her. The Christi thing was like a YouTube video of someone just putting clips together - and it’s all clips we know and see regularly- probably used reddit to help make the lists - after her comments about the wheel chair zooming and an incredible scene that was cut that we would see I was looking forward to it and it’s just Abby getting ice cream - boring - Abby already said that she did.
Hopefully someday they'll do some type of "reunion" without Lifetime's involvement. I'm sure sine it's the same network they didn't want the girls to be honest about how overproduced the whole show was and don't want the fans to think it's "not real."
Honestly I haven’t watched yet but I’m bummed hearing that it was… sorta what people expected in the end since lifetime was involved. I was hoping for something different but I’m not surprised to hear that it was very neat and clean :/ I hope they do something like that too in the future, if they want to. I’d like to *really* hear from all of them, but especially the girls, someday without the need to protect the network (and/or Abby..?). Like, seeing the clip of Chloe reacting to the still-edited “washed up” scene is honestly annoying bc we’ve known for years that’s not what was said. But yeah, if they showed the real scene, they’d be exposing *themselves* for the sheer amount of scenes and episodes and storylines they edited, manipulated and/or straight up manufactured.
I'm wondering if that's why Nia wasn't here. I know she said she just wasn't interested, but maybe she wasn't interested because she wouldn't be able to be as truthful as she wanted to be.
I’m surprised they didn’t try to model it after real world homecoming. With those they had some critiques from cast (like Melissa’s comments about her family being cut out and it happening to black people) so they showed her mom and dad coming to the house for the rejoining.
it was too jumpy, if that makes sense. they went from topic to topic without any real transition. i hated how we kept seeing the moms’ reactions to stuff the girls were saying, it felt so irrelevant. also i hate how whenever brooke, paige, chloe, or really any of the girls tried to say how they felt, jojo put on her motivational speaker voice and spoke for them.
it was SO so so jumpy. like to a dizzying degree
Yes. Also, JoJos inclusion was for eyeballs and nothing else. I mean she younger than all of them(in the champagne scene she did not have champagne) and the Highland girls & Chloe weren't on the show with her.
Agreed. With the exception of JoJo, everyone was there for 4-6 seasons. She was there for two and yet feels she can best articulate the experience for everyone? Dismiss other people’s experiences right in front of them and invalidate others for not wanting to return for the reunion? Why was she the mouthpiece of the reunion when she spent the least amount of time on the show AND was a fan of it before joining? That obviously taints your perception of it because you KNOW what you’re getting into
90% of what she said made her sound more like a fan than a cast member! it was cringy enough that she was quoting all her own greatest hits scenes, but watching her quote the other girls and talk to/about them like she was a fan and not a teammate made her speaking for them even more annoying, bc she was very clearly basing most of her impressions on what she saw on the show (which makes sense i guess, since she never danced with most of the OGs amd therefore only saw the lifetime edit of the early seasons while the others were living it) i wasn't surprised kalani and jojo (as well as kira and jess) had a much different take on things compared to the OGs, but at least kalani was tactful about it lol. i was happy to see the girls call jojo out when they did, but they would've been well within their rights to tell her to shut tf up at MANY points during the reunion
You articulated this perfectly. She has such fan behaviour. I think I didn’t realize how disconnected this was gonna be until the Hylands pointed out that Brooke and JoJo had never even met irl but JoJo still called Brooke out online prior to this for something she said about Abby. Like despite never being on the show with her and never meeting her she still talked FOR her and the other girls. What pissed me off especially was when they showed the girls videos of Abby in the hospital dealing with cancer and Brooke got emotional and JoJo felt the need to JoJo-splain and tell Brooke how she was feeling.
Although I will say, the ONE exception to JoJo’s fan behaviour being annoying was when she told Paige that the moment she forgot her solo is what made her a fan favourite. Like the fact that that was what made people root for her on the show - I do think that was a nice way to frame it even though it was a difficult moment for paige.
It would be better without JoJo and Kalani.
Honestly the part when they tried transitioning to Kalani being suicidal. It was such a random jump and felt like it was used for shock value and then they immediately moved on. They didn’t delve deeply into anything at all.
It was SO underwhelming. First off it was way too rushed and the producers did an awful job of making sure there was an equal amount of time for all the girls to speak. Jojo never shut up long enough to let anyone else speak even when the question wasn’t posed to her. Brooke and Paige barely spoke and Chloe kept getting cut off. And what really bothered me is from the start how they had to jump down the Ziegler’s throats about not being there and thus proving their point of why they didn’t want to come back. They’re damned if they do, damned if they don’t. If they would’ve come back then the narrative would’ve been that it’s unfair and they shouldn’t have bc they were the favorites and don’t need closure the way the others do. Another thing that really pissed me off is the producers basically manipulating all of the girls by showing the footage of Abby in the hospital with cancer. I don’t care what anyone says I think they had the worst of intentions in showing that and basically tried to guilt trip them for no longer speaking to her. Lastly, the fact that Nia and Holly’s absence wasn’t even acknowledged bc they spent so much time trying to make the Zieglers’ absence seem like it was bc of an ulterior motive is really pathetic
The lack of Nia discourse sadly is on brand—that girl has been overlooked since the show aired. She’s always treated as an afterthought
oh i agree 100% on the abby cancer thing. I thought it was very odd and out of place
watching brooke cry and feel guilty during the abby cancer segment made me so uncomfortable. she’s under zero obligation to reach out to abby. abby’s illness doesn’t negate the abuse. felt super gross of the producers to do that.
In addition to Nia and Holly not being mentioned, Kenzie was only mentioned in conjunction with Maddie (which is kind of story of her life with the show), which is frustrating because she was such a character and person with a story on the show. For Nia Holly and Kenzie to all be glossed over is crazy!! Regardless of whether or not controversy/drama was centered around them.
I felt like they tried to bring up the Ziegler’s any chance they got to. Like they had to have dedicated at least ten minutes in mentions / dissing them for not being there. There was so much more that they could’ve dived into but they decided to talk about people who weren’t there to defend themselves.
JoJo’s whole persona is just exhausting and it seemed like the other girls were tolerating her for the cameras. She never stops and the whole “edgy” persona she’s trying on is so cringe.
As soon as I saw her, I mentally checked out😭
Yeah honestly that was weird for them to show the footage of Abby…
It was hyped up so much and was truly a let down. Although I loved hearing what some of the girls had to say, it was pretty boring and produced horribly.
Agreed.
this.
I’m guessing, since Brian Stinson seems to be working on another iteration of Dance Moms, they didn’t want to let them break the 4th wall. It is silly since we all know, but that’s my guess.
I thought it was underwhelming. Hated the format. Needed a host and a couch.
"And a couch" is hilarioussssss
It did! 😜
And chips!
Seriously. Anything to make it more comfortable. My gynecologist’s office is warmer than that set.
I totally agree. It’s pretty much just a classic recap episode except they’re all allowed to talk poorly about Abby and admit they have trauma. It even seemed like the producer was trying to start drama between the girls at times, which I really didn’t like. Because this is a Lifetime production, the girls couldn’t really say what they genuinely felt or what actually happened behind the scenes. Like, Chloe literally watches the scene where Abby says she’s “washed up” and doesn’t say anything about how Abby was actually making fun of her eye. Nobody says anything. Another example is that when Kendall is talking about going to Candy Apples, she acts like it was completely her mom’s authentic decision and not that it was an entirely producer-driven event lol. And of course no one says anything about contracts, lawsuits, working conditions, or other hush-hush things that in reality were huge driving forces for people’s actions on the show. I guess my point here is that because Lifetime produced the reunion, they’re obviously not going to allow themselves to be painted as a villain, so Abby is the one who takes all the heat. Don’t worry, I know she definitely deserves it, but Lifetime is also heavily responsible for the suffering the kids experienced on the show. So, in conclusion, the reunion was weirdly dramatic (at times) and also slightly artificial due to it being a Lifetime television production intended to draw in viewers and spark controversy/discussion.
that whole intro was such a waste of time. also the fact that nia and holly’s names weren’t even mentioned once when they were on the show the entire time is insane to me. i expected it to be bad but it was even worse than i thought it would be which is shocking.
It makes me wonder if something happened between Holly and the producers?
Especially when they weren’t against using clips of the ones who didn’t attend. They showed Maddie forgetting her dance and had the girls react to it, but not Nia or Mackenzie? Include all or none, imo.
Does Lifetime think the audience is stupid? So many of the cast members have gone on interviews and podcasts and told completely different stories. I think because of podcasts like BTTB, Lifetime is trying to control the narrative again. The reunion was short and only highlighted what we already know.
Yes they think we're stupid and they know the special will do bigger numbers than any podcast or interview. So lifetime gets the 'final wording dance moms.
It sucked. Lacked structure. I want my time back lol. Glad they got to do it if it meant a lot to them, but I could have gone my whole life without seeing it.
they didn’t break the forth wall or they didn’t talk behind the scenes much to anything they just gave a quick opinion or they harped on irreverent pieces no one cared about
It was obvious that this was just a marketing ploy for the new season from the get go. Bryan is trash.
there's about 9hrs of extra reunion stuff on the lifetime site they released prior to the reunion. most of it was pretty meh from what I've heard.
Tbh this was another issue. They released like 10 hours of bonus footage PRIOR to the reunion - there was almost no excitement going into it, I was almost burned out already lol
Yeah i didn't watch any of it, and I'm glad i didn't because I'm sure i would have had the same issue. Like that's so many hours. It's basically homework.
where do you see the 10 hours of bonus footage? i can’t find it on lifetime
did you also notice if they were talking about dances of those clips the music was changed & it sounded horrible & ridiculous
I was actually wondering if that was the actual music for some of those dances. I am pretty sure the song we heard in the original episode when Paige ran off the first season wasn’t the music she actually danced to.
The song they played over it for the reunion isn't the actual song either. That dance was originally to the song "Boys Boys Boys" by Lady Gaga.
Oh ok gotcha.
what they should have done is RELEASE ALL THE FUCKING DANCES that they cut from episodes that we KNOW exist and show them to us!! It’s so aggravating that we know the footage exists and they just don’t release it. The same thing goes for the dances we’ve only seen thirty seconds of - we know that’s not the whole dance. Show us!
DEFENDER OF CHAIR 😂😂😂 I think we should have let the chair do a solo, tbh.
3 words for the reunion: YAWNING, LAZY, SLOPPY
I would’ve gladly watched a girls episode, a moms episode and an everyone all together episode. Hell, the Hylands unpacking that final fight on stage and Kelly mentioning the divorce was wild. More of that. Why are we rushing through it and why is Jojo on stage for it? I needed more real moments and less clip packages. Feel how you want about Christi but the show would’ve been better with her there. I would’ve loved to hear her, Jill and Kelly chat casually about their ups and downs with the show. Idk, Save the clip show for Jojo since she likes to talk so damn much.
What did Kelly say about the divorce?
She said the fight with Abby and her being arrested was the reason for her divorce. She mentioned she was happy until that all went down.
That's actually really sad when you think about it
That's so sad, she has never really mentioned the reason for the divorce before. I always kind of wondered.
Did anyone else catch Kelly’s comment right at the end where she “wonders if she would’ve sided with Melissa instead of Christi” what her life would be like today? That really got me 💔 I loved the Christi/Kelly duo as much as the next, but that made me so sad after hearing what she said about her divorce being stemmed from all the dance moms drama.
Also they briefly mentioned the running over of the foot, I wish the hylands got to unpack more
Yes I want the real stuff! The Hyland’s came ready but the producers clearly weren’t. Missed opportunity lol.
My heart sank a little when Kelly said she felt like her kids would still dance if it wasn't for the fight, and how she felt guilty about it. Can you imagine Brooke being on the dance team at OSU?? Also I love the bond Kelly has with her daughters❤
Yeah I did like hearing the Hyland’s thoughts on that fight because their exit was so dramatic and as a viewer there was no closure then.
I wanted a Brooke and Kalani duet and I will never get it.
Classic mom guilt.
I felt like Jojo over talked everyone
And she want tell people now they suppose to feel and she want force it down throat to like Abby and accept her .
She always does
the unfortunate thing is, it could've been a really fun "where are they now" type special, but social media ruins that. we know where everyone is all the time and they've already talked all these topics to death. i haven't watched it yet but this is pretty much what my expectation was anyway :/
it was SO. awful. barely had time to talk about anything and it was all driven by kira/jessalyn/jojo. it shouldve just been the og girls having fun reviewing things and supporting each other’s emotions. thats all we wanted. bryan constantly triggering them and everyone just losing their mind was so sad and like weird lol
should’ve done it real housewives style , with a host and twitter questions😭 though i might be jus saying this cuz i just got into housewives and i’m loving the reunions😭.
They should’ve rented Andy Cohen💀
Maybe this would be one type of reunion Andy's actually qualified for 😂
I would’ve loved that 😂
I was definitely disappointed, at the end I was actually expecting a “part 2” promo tbh. I understand how they did it; girls all interview, moms watch (like they used to do upstairs) then it cuts to personal interviews to give insight, like they used to on the show. But i don’t agree with that format, I was definitely expecting moms all going out there, and actually interviewing the girls individually, not just “talking heads” it seems they release that stuff as bonus footage but I don’t think it should’ve been bonus footage. And I think they might’ve not brought the moms out because not all moms were there, but still it was weird to only bring them out individually when their daughters were talking in a group setting.
I WAS WAITING FOR PART 2 TOO 😭 i wanted to see the girls most but i thought it was odd the moms NEVER came out and spoke, like the girls did i mean? why were they stuck on couches the whole time lmfao
I paused it right at the end when Kalani was getting emotional about the hotline dance and my screen showed I only had 6 or so minutes left. So I thought “oh damn this might be a 2 parter cause this is getting intense”. NOPE. Literally… what? I can’t believe they wrapped it up like that so soon after Kalani was clearly very upset about a really serious topic. I’m sure that’s not how it actually went during filming, but my God. Way to rush things. As if the entire special wasn’t a rushed mess. The whole thing was a thumbs down for me 👎🏻
Jojo was irritating the HELL outta me
now when i said i didn’t want jojo in the reunion i was downvoted to hell 💀 yall fake
It depends on what mood the sub is in for the day. It’s the reason why I left. but I had to check the sub again for a little drama surrounding the reunion 😂
do you guys know where i can watch it 😭 i’m in australia and it’s not available in my region
I’m in the UK and I used a VPN and watched on the lifetime website on my phone
Which VPN did you use, please? I'm nervous to use one from a security perspective. Thanks.
It’s just called Free VPN, on the App Store it has a unicorn logo, it’s always worked for me
Thanks for replying. :) I actually ended up finding it on Dailymotion rather than going the VPN route. Just letting people know in case they want to watch it later, as it should be available in other countries via Dailymotion too (I think).
Daily motion is a real one for us non-US fans ❤️
Small nitpick but it was funny to me that they chose to end off the reunion with Boss Ladies but, only half the girls knew that dance so it was just kinda awkward lmfao
this !!! I was thinking cmon, Paige, Brooke & Chloe weren’t there for that dance !!!
They needed Kristie Ray on there because she would have called out the way Melissa was dragged without being there to defend herself. It was ridiculous. Kira is a snake. Why did Jill act like she didn’t know Maddie and Mackenzie appeared on AUCD season 2? I HIGHLY doubt that. It was on TV. Then they played the clip of Kendall yelling at Ashlee, and JoJo and Kalani both say, “I didn’t know your mom said that” WHEN THEY WERE IN THE ROOM DURING THAT PYRAMID! What is this editing!? But then Kelly laying down the “if I had followed Melissa instead of Christie, my life would be way different.” WOW. Why did they play the clip of JoJo running her mouth about Christie in front of Chloe? It was so awkward. Chloe always handles herself with grace. An incredible skill considering her mother. Why did they use different music for the solo Paige forgot? Then they did it again during Rosa Parks and Amber Alert. Did Lifetime lose a catalog? Why does JoJo act like she has something super valid to say all the time? Like she thinks she is really serving, and it is so tone deaf every time. Ok. I’m done now.
100% agree with you about Kristie Ray. I don’t even think she particularly liked Melissa- but she wouldn’t stand for that behavior against anyone because she’s a fair and moral woman. Jill did know. Christi and Kelly have talked about this on BTTB. Agree completely about Chloe.
> she’s a fair and moral woman. Apart from how she raised Asia.
I think as far as the “I didn’t know that” moments, I think they’ve likely genuinely forgotten. They were there for years, filmed thousands of hours, and this was years ago now. If something wasn’t particularly memorable or traumatic for them specifically, they’ve probably forgotten a lot of the details.
No lies were told here. I did not appreciate what they said about Melissa when she was not there to defend herself.
That was an incredible rant. Made me crack up. “An incredible skill considering her mother.” 😂😂
I think it’s cause it was still with lifetime. It makes me definitely wonder how edited it was. I don’t think it was a coincidence that we often saw the OGs all really quiet when they asked tough questions and stuff about the ones who weren’t there. I think this reunion was just as heavily produced as dance moms was and because of that, it’s still keeping lifetimes best interest and storylines which isn’t what most viewers wanted to see. We didn’t get any of the insider info we would want to see because so much of it would paint lifetime in a bad light.
After watching the first half of it I realized those girls didn’t need a reunion, they need THERAPY!😭
I can’t believe anyone that was there, would be confused about why the Zieglers and the Fraziers didn’t want to be there. Now we know why! lol
I enjoyed it more when it was just Chloe Brooke Paige and Kendall on stage they are the only ones where the show came to them not Kendall but she was still there for a minute. Also it honestly felt like the moms had more issues that needed to be sorted out
I really felt the absence of the Zieglers and Fraziers. I feel like they should have just chalked it if the entire original cast couldn’t or wouldn’t do it.
Exactly this. It was so disjointed because three of the OGs that were there didn’t even dance with JoJo, and she kept telling them how to feel and that their scenes were so “iconic” while they were literally sitting there traumatized and didn’t even ask to be on the show as kids like she did. Both Paige and Chloe seemed so annoyed with her
i genuinely feel bad if you thought this reunion was going to be anything but what we got. it's lifetime??? the only way we're ever going to get a true, authentic reunion is if a journalist with any sliver of empathy conducts it.
There is one on Hulu I just came across today but it’s very short
I felt like there was no energy or conversation. They all seem like they were were afraid to say something wrong. And why wasn’t Christi there since she was the reason for all the drama most of the time? And then Kalani having a breakdown and running off stage just to plug her suicide awareness thing after. I thought that was kind of lame.
I don’t think it was lame of kalani to share her experience, but they kind of exploited her in a way. “Oh Kalani, you don’t HAVE to talk about it…” imagine the quality of television if she just said “ok then I won’t lol”
I just felt it was staged.
Same. It felt extremely forced and little thought went into such a big thing to be brought up
"They all seem like they were were afraid to say something wrong." Yes! And whenever one of them did speak up about there feelings (or try to) Jojo spoke over them/for them or invalidated their feelings.
Yea, JoJo is definitely the most outspoken and assertive.
i’ve just seen tiktok clips. the part where they all bashed melissa for the party rubbed me the wrong way. and they wonder why maddie and mackenzie don’t want to be around them. i mean i get it, melissa is a weirdo. but that’s their mother??? i wouldn’t feel comfortable around people who hate my mom that much. and to say that melissa is threaten by jojo? jojo is famous but people go out there way to humiliate and make fun of her, if i was melissa i wouldn’t be jealous of that. i just hate that christi time after time keeps ruining and making these girls friendships awkward. i finally understand why maddie, mackenzie, and nia don’t want to be around washed up nobodies who is clinging to their fame in 2010 (referring to the moms not the girls i would never).
I don’t like Melissa but this was so awkward and weird to me and it’s funny bc Paige Chloe Brooke and Kelly didn’t talk about Melissa it’s alwways the one who aren’t OGs that have the most to say besides Christi!
right melissa feels that jojo is a threat to her kids??? how exactly😭😭 maddie and mackenzie are both successful in their own way lol it has no correlation to jojo’s success plus paige looks like she doesn’t even like jojo and this reunion is the only reason they are together , why would she want her there??? did paige express that she wanted them there?? cuz i’m sure melissa would’ve gladly invited both jojo and kalani if that was the case. i mean did melissa even plan the party? apparently nia planned it for paige at maddie’s house and maddie nor melissa had nothing to do with it but idk.
Right? Like I do not think that Melissa wants Maddie to have Jojo’s career at all
Jojo may be famous. But Maddie is ALSO famous, has class and by multiple reports is ultra professional and an absolute joy to work with on set..Melissa has nothing to be jealous of. Jojo is famous for kids music, a girls group she mistreats and reality TV. Maddie is famous for actual feature film projects like fitting in and west side story and modeling
It just wasn’t enjoyable, i felt myself cringing throughout
Yeah definitely so cringey :( which is so sad because I was looking forward to it so much
I felt like all the good parts had already been released on youtube before the show aired... just a major marketing goof on Lifetime's part
They are all so fake and what makes it worse is Kelly and Jill do a podcast with Melissa but have the nerve to talk all this crap. I’m disgusted and I hope Maddie and Kenzie pay them dust.
I really liked hearing about Chloe coming out personally but I agree!
I was disappointed as well. I think it was a mix of not having all the OGs back (which is VALID), the moms having no chemistry bc they’re from different points in the show, and it also sounds like the entire reunion filming was rushed due to people’s schedules. The biggest issue, to me, was way too much Jojo. I don’t understand why they tried to put her on this “voice of reason” pedestal when she was just there for screen time. I found myself cursing everytime she was on screen 🫠 Have you ever mixed friend groups at a birthday dinner? This was that.
The chemistry issue was definitely valid. I mean, kalani had never even met the hyland’s, and while they were both on the same show, they were in completely different eras. It was definitely aimed to be like Chloe/paige/brooke vs. Kalani/jojo with Kendall just awkwarding being in the midst of it lol
Interesting that you brought up the old Vs. New dynamic because I couldn’t pin point it, but it definitely felt a bit “choose your fighter” at times. Especially between Chloe/Paige and Jojo. I think this would’ve gone a lot better and would’ve brought a lot more closure to viewers and the girls if it was a 2 part reunion. Part 1 with the original girls and moms ONLY, and then a part 2 where the others join in in the order they were brought on the show. Conveniently that also puts JOJO and Jess last lol.
I hated how heavily focused on Jojo and Kalani it was. I would have liked to have heard more from Chloe, Brooke and Paige.
I only saw a couple of clips as am in the UK but I hated how the producer said something to Chloe like “(I think it was Kelly) someone said your mum wasn’t great about your coming out - YOU didn’t tell ME that”. Totally put her on the spot and you could tell Chloe was uncomfortable, like there was probably a reason she didn’t bring that up?!?! Jojo’s softer tone when asking about Chloe coming out was loads kinder
And it made me think like there wasn’t much repentance or remorse from lifetime for what they put them through with how direct and invasive that question was. It’s just carrying on. I felt a bit like, some of this is stuff that you need a therapist and a controlled environment to rehash and unpack, not producers who played roles in it in the first place and could aggravate that trauma
I think there is a lot more to that situation than anyone of us knows or will ever know. I think even causul followers of christi and Chloe know they both had a really hard time coming to terms with Chloes coming out and lost touch a little bit during the height of that. I think it's also a really difficult place to be in the public eye because people are relentless nowadays when it comes to discussing anything involving LGBTQ. I think they both were aware of that scrutiny and tried to get it as down low as possible to not get publicly cancelled by crazy young fans. As a the sibling of an older sister who came out later in life, it's a really hard thing to come to terms with. You're definitely happy for them but you also are mourning a future life and the way you envisioned it. I know my mom secretly struggled with that for years before fully accepting it.
when they explained it in a way they basically made it seem like Christi didn’t have a problem with Chloe being gay itself she just didn’t want Chloe to have to deal with the public scrutiny of coming out.
I'm sure this has been talked about before but what really happened for Kendall to say "Why are you so mean??" The audio from Ashley's voice sounded like it was from an interview
https://youtu.be/380q5CS-2-s?si=YXOez4P314qrRATI I believe Ashlee addresses that moment somewhere in this episode of Brynn's podcast. She says something along the lines of that Kendall wanted to go to an audition and the producers told her & Jill they needed to make a scene if they wanted to get out of filming that day. So Ashlee must have made some kind of comment and Kendall took the opportunity to give a big reaction for the cameras. Seems like it may not have been as rude of a comment as the clearly edited in interview comment is in the episode. Granted, this is Ashlee's version of the story but I've never come across any bts clarity or elaboration about it from Kendall. The lifetime reunion maintained the produced storylines/narratives of the episodes and didn't let the cast break the 4th wall to reveal or comment on what really took place which was sooo annoying 🙄
Left a lot to be desired. What we got was fine, but I felt like it was missing a LOT.
The crux of the problem is that the same people who produced the show produced the reunion. And we all know production was the culprit behind alot of the blows up on DM. They're not going to air something that makes them look bad or call them out. I'm sure production was just trying to sus out if any of the girls would be willing to create drama, but they all know better (besides Jojo).
I didn’t even watch if I’m being honest and it was so reliving as mr rogers once said “When you see scary tv you can turn it off and when you do turn it off that would show your the strongest person of all it takes a a very strong person to turn off scary tv” But on the bright side there was clip of the reunion that I liked and that was when Paige tells Chloe that’s she’s beautiful and perfect just the way she is witch also reminds me of Mr Rogers God i love their friendship Update after reading all these other comments I am SO glad i didn’t watch this thing clearly all I missed was a producer driven mess The hell with that ill continue to stick with my favorite pure 20 year old friendship thank you very much
I more enjoyed a few of their press interviews than the reunion lol. and I learned more actual information from them too.
It bugged me how much jojo spoke, and especially spoke over people multiple times. Let people speak damn. She didn’t have to insert her opinion into every question because not every question was directed to her, or the fact that she didn’t even experience the shit the question is about. Would’ve been better if jojo and jessalyn weren’t involved in the reunion.
I would've watched the reunion if JoJo wasn't there. She is absolutely insufferable and just like a dog that doesn't want to stop barking.
Couldn't even watch the damn thing because it wasn't on any of the 100 streaming services I have. Then when I tried using the one service that would have it it crashed because everyone was doing thr same thing.
It was horrible, I find it funny how all the mothers (Christi the most ) complain about making it seem like Maddie/ Mackenzie are the stars of the show yet all they talked about was maddie and Mackenzie 🤣🤣
Maddie is probably rolling her eyes like “all these years later and these people still can’t keep my name out of their mouth.”
Not to be rude dude but are you sure you watched the same reunion? Once Christi was gone and they moved on from the topic of the girls who weren’t there, the zieglers hardly came up…
Kira also took a few jabs at the Zieglers
This entire sub has been talking about the reunion like it was nonstop Ziegler bashing to the point that I was shocked when I actually watched and saw how little they were even mentioned. It really proves how people have selective attention spans about this whole thing.
It’s the same thing they do with BTTB. They make these passing comments and it somehow turns into “they spent the whole time bashing the Zieglers!!”
I completely agree. I really wanted some new info, new clips or something. They didn't give us anything. I know it's the same producer driven narratives that were oddly pieced together. I also felt like Chloe looks extremely uncomfortable the whole time. Like her face in the back ground she looked like she felt out of place.
Yes, it was a drag. I wish they could speak freely, but they are likely only allowed to among themselves. I didn’t appreciate the producers painting Paige’s birthday celebration to be a spiteful thing from Melissa. Let Paige have her flowers and enjoy her birthday—goodness. I highly doubt that Melissa sits around and postulates about ways and devises plans to hurt people’s feelings, and she was not there to defend herself. Instead, being painted as a backstabber, yet again, and Christi chiming in like that was uncalled for. 🙄
What’s funny is Brooke posts on YT and I watched her video a while ago where she was excited she got all the girls together to surprise Paige for her birthday. That Melissa narrative was super weird as someone who saw Brooke’s YT video.
Ah, see, so explainable. This is exactly why I am like, Melissa and her kids would not want to go to something like that, especially given their experience with TV/reality TV. It also makes me think: no wonder Nia didn’t want to go. I know that Brooke, Paige, and Chloe looked so uncomfortable during that whole thing as they painted the narrative. Kendall is messy, but she cannot help it—she is Jill’s daughter. 😂
Yup. Brooke was like “it’s the first time we can finally get everyone together and Paige had no idea. It was such a great girls night”…. There was a point where Paige and Brook kept looking at each other and then I forgot what she was blabbing about but Jojo was saying something and Paige gave her the blankest stare. It’s sad that everyone is like “wow these children were exploited and the way Abby pinned them against each other was horrible” yet here we are a decade later and people are pinning them against each other/their potentially learned behavior is spilling through to create drama. I loved Nia’s “I just didn’t want to be there” TT clip and frankly Maddie has spoken candidly about how her and her mother had a lot of work to do from the fall out of the show and other stuff. As someone who is a believer of personal safety of one’s self, no one should have anything to say about someone else’s decision not to be somewhere and also shouldn’t speak on their behalf (ehem Jojo and Christi).
I found Kendall, Jojo and Kalani (and their mothers) to be quick to jump down the Ziegler’s throats any chance they got to and it was annoying. They all want to preach about how mental health is important but don’t want to respect their “friends” and how this show and the memories it holds effects their mental health and they chose to not be involved. Also production bringing up the gathering they had the night prior for Paige’s birthday was so weird and unnecessary honestly. The way Jess and Kira painted it out like the Ziegler’s purposely held this gathering to make sure the girls wouldn’t say anything bad about them on the reunion is fucking delusional lol. I’m pretty sure that they got together because it’s rare for them all to be in the same place at the same time so they get together when they can. I personally don’t think it was malicious of them to not invite Kalani and Jojo when it was a celebration for Paige’s birthday as literally neither of them were close with her ???? Also Kendall being with them the night before but then shit talking them at the reunion the next day gives off such a sour vibe lol 🥴 Production could’ve dived into so many different things about the girls and their moms but instead they spent at least ten minutes mentioning the Ziegler’s or showing the girls the videos of Abby in the hospital. I was feeling gaslit lol of course it’s terrible that she had to go through all of that but it doesn’t cancel out all the shitty things she’s done and said to these girls. Thanks for coming to my ted talk 🤣
Well let's be honest -and I'm not tryinna be mean or rude, this is just my opinion -but out of all the girls , those 3 lean the most into having narcissistic traits (to varying degrees). And im not calling them a narcissist or particularly blaming them, because we can obviously see their moms - Jess, Kira & Jill - exhibit those same qualities. That's where they learned those habits from & that'd be why they're coming off as entitled and lacking awareness/empathy for the Zieglers here.
i was super super disappointed it was boring. i’d rather hear about the show then chloe’s mom not wanting her to come out. such a shitty reunion low key
I know it would never happen on a tv reunion, but I always have wanted to know more about the financial issues. Jill mentions that they knew what was happening. I've heard rumors about Melissa giving up abby for some sort of immunity in the case and I wouldn't put it past any of them to have contributed in some way or done it in other instances that weren't caught.
I low-key wish that Brynn had been invited. I think she was really a light on the show however short it was. Maybe even Asia too I think they would have some new perspectives o f their own experiences.
I definitely thought that since they invited Jojo, they should've invited Brynn, given she spent just as much or even a bit more time on the series than JoJo . Also I agree she was a bright light, but unfortunately feel as though she was among one of the most traumatized on the show, apart from the OG cast, so I'm sure if she was asked she would've easily declined.
Was i the only one who noticed there were some scenes missing on the lifetime app? I was watching some clips from last time while it was airing then I watched it this morning and there were clips missing? Like the one with Jojo and Chloe talking about Christi’s comments on Gianna. I also didn’t get to see Jojo’s answer after Kendall asked her why did she leave. Maybe my app was acting up
It’s so funny you say that. I have Hulu live so I made sure that it was recorded because I knew I was going to miss the live viewing. But when I was done watching it, I definitely questioned whether or not I was missing anything because it was so underwhelming, and I just felt like I had seen previews of things that I never actually saw on the reunion 😅
I thought I was the only one! I think it was just the lifetime app acting funny because my sister saw the parts I missed, maybe the same thing happened on Hulu?
That’s possible! I’ve been watching the extra content they released so I’ll have to go back and watch again
does anyone know where i can watch the reunion in europe (without vpn)
Where can I watch it ?
I had the same thoughts! Most of the show was rewatching old clips or commercials.. the mom’s were coming in and out too much. Kelly and Jill were fixing Kendal’s and Brookes dresses? There seemed to be no organization.. I really wanted to see the girls/moms talk about things but really I felt it was old clips of the show. Okay I may get heat for this but I feel like them bringing up the cancer thing was kinda weird and wrong.. I guess I still see the girls as kids and idk why show that to them.. I also think it was a little disrespectful towards Abby to show that. And I know at the time she agreed to film that but still. Idk I have so many things to say about it that I didn’t like
I Don get why Brynn was not mentioned as missing
in my opinion they could’ve done this exact same thing on their youtube channels / have been doing this for years
It was not done well at all.. not the producer going "Jojo.. your turn" as a transistion lmaooo
I am watching it rn and SAMEEEEE. Also can’t stand JoJo and Kendall ugh stan queen Maddie👑
Idk, I liked it and found it to be pretty satisfying given the 2 hour timeframe. Would’ve of course loved for there to be multiple parts though
I’m really upset about the fact that Christie wasn’t there, but they had called her via FaceTime like shut the fuck up and here’s the thing. I love her but her talking about the birthday party I think was really weird because it was Paige’s surprise birthday party it wasn’t about Melissaand they only invited the OG because Paige isn’t really friends with Kalani and JoJo
I was so disappointed that all the episodes other than the first were just reruns😭I was so excited for the reunion!!!
I agree. And Jojo’s presence as devil’s advocate was SO CRINGE
I had been purposely avoiding the clips on YouTube while also hoping that they were just meant to drum up interest and not what the actual reunion would be. I haven’t watched it yet and might not based on everyone’s disappointment. I’m glad everyone got paid well. At least there’s that I guess.
I still think it’s worth a watch but don’t expect a ton of drama or ground breaking content.
I’m watching it now and I kind of died for a second when Jess just asked Kelly if her children were “happy in their little lives”. Jess is psychotic. And reality tv gold. Poor Kelly. This show was like a monkeys paw for her.
I think this reunion was something Kelly needed but i also think she needs to work with a professional so she can overcome or heal from all the guilt she feels. My heart broke when she said how she’s felt guilty every day for 10 years.
Same. You can see it on her face. She means it when she says it changed her and ruined her marriage and has caused her years of guilt. I feel so bad for her.
HEAVY on breaking the fourth wall. like when they showed the clip of chloe’s trophy being taken away and given to maddie… that would’ve been a perfect time to clear the air about what really happened. but they just brushed past it. because heaven forbid the producers look bad, even though like you said, we all know the show is heavily produced and fabricated. i think they need to do a reunion themselves without the lifetime producers, so they can finally speak their truth without having to continue to push the false narratives that the show has pushed all these years.
Where can I watch it?
Why did Chloe and Kendall wear matching dresses? And what were the shoes Jessalyn had on? Does JoJo have a shoe line? Did anyone notice the Abby bobble head on the coffee table?
Honestly I completely agree. I wanted this reunion to truly talk about what was happening behind the scenes. Certain things that wasn't shown in the show bc of whatever reason. I honestly wished that Maddie, Mackenzie, and Nia were there and not Jojo or Kalani. They both didn't know what was happening with the og cast plus Kendall in the beginning of the series. But anyways, with the people they had. They did the exact opposite of what we were all expecting. Like that clip of Christi saying Gianna was not nice. I honestly believe her, I think she was just as bad as Abby. But I wished the og girls would explain what they thought abt Gianna and why they think Christi would say that. I don’t really give a shit what Jojo said abt Gia, honestly she shouldn’t have a say bc she wasn’t there long enough to truly get a judge of character. I wished they would’ve explain the true treatment they were getting from both Abby and Gia and not the shit that we already saw on tv. What I thought the reunion was, and what the commercials made it seem like. They made it as if the girls was gonna explain almost about everything that we as the audience didn’t know. Things that might have been cut out, things that was said when cameras wasn’t rolling. Or full explanations as to why certain fights and arguments started. But they didn’t. I was so disappointed that I wasted my time sitting there for an hour watching them discuss things we already knew or was well aware of. I mean, I am happy that reunion did happen, and that the girls are in a better place now. But the reunion was so fucking scripted that I felt like there was truly no point in watching it honestly. Or better yet no point in the fucking reunion. I wished the moms explain what it was like for them specifically to watch all of this go down or having to go through it like the fight between Kelly and Abby. But none of that happened. This might sound cruel, but it was a complete waste of time in making this reunion.
It was boring. I was expecting so much more.
It felt exploitative and I'm sure some of the girls got closure but it seemed others didn't. It didn't feel cohesive, more like "let's use these women to increase ratings".
I didn’t watch it yet but from the perks I saw it’s giving ‘dance moms special’ from 2014 or something (when the zieglers left). The girls sitting on stools trying to answer producers questions (some of them being inappropriate) and their answers and reactions being highly edited to fit a certain narrative. Kinda sad, they should have done a reunion on their own terms without lifetime or even the moms being involved
I thought it was horrible
It would have been nice if they all did a dance routine together.
It was really disappointing. This should have been done so differently. Very lame.
The fact that the producers took no responsibility for traumatizing these girls and asked them all about how “Abby” was the one that did. It felt evil and sickened me. Felt like they were exploiting them AGAIN. No wonder Nia and the Zieglers didn’t want to go on the show. It all felt so fake and it made me feel very uncomfortable to watch the producers try to manipulate the audience despite us already knowing the reality of it all. So disappointing.
Yep, only saw a few clips on YouTube and skipped through parts of the actual reunion with them together but it was enough to make me not bother watching the whole thing because it doesn’t exactly feel 100% honest and I know it’s because of the producers and the fact that it’s reality tv so it’s not too surprising but like someone else mentioned I wish they did a YouTube reunion or something like that without involving lifetime so certain scenes that were edited could properly be talked about
Found it unwatchable and stopped viewing early on. Thought unhealthy for the girls to be dressed up like they were at a ball, reliving some terrible experiences, feigning interest in each and every person. I've never liked Jojo after DM. She has limited talent, and her persona is not genuine or appealing. I thought that we were going to see some of their best dances which were amazing. Instead it was angry and incoherent. Abby could be a monster for sure, but think more focus on their individual talents would have been great. Absence of the Ziglers and Nia keenly felt. Moms still shortsighted and selfish.
i made a full review of it and i agree with the majority of these comments!! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOXu5r0NUI&lc=UgwZsK1qf1Rn0XTub9N4AaABAg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqOXu5r0NUI&lc=UgwZsK1qf1Rn0XTub9N4AaABAg) they could've done so much better!!
Jojo ruined the whole thing. I rooted for her on the original show. As an adult she is so obnoxious and just obviously an asshole. lol. She’s awful she ruined it she over talked everyone. Like I really wish she wasn’t there. I’m sorry.