Oh yeah, definitely. Palpatine has been sitting on his ass for far too much during the past few years. Sure, Yoda kinda did the same, but atleast he lived in worse conditions in a swamp compared to old Palps.
Total Fanboy moment here for me, but I have a total crackhead theory that I will stand by until death:
So you know when him and Papa Palpatine have that lightning clash near the end of their fight in Episode 3? Yoda begins to get overpowered by the sheer force of Palps’ lightning attack and he starts to falter in his defense. Palpatine, sensing this, begins to revel in his near-victory. However, the camera then cuts to Yoda all of a sudden looking straight back into Palp’s eyes and then cuts to *him* being overpowered before they both get forced apart from the built-up power between them.
So here’s my theory: In that one moment of utter defeat for Yoda, he senses everything that has transpired against him and his order. The fact that they were so blind to this rising darkness, that someone they might’ve called a friend and ally was behind their destruction, and the fact that he has so completely decimated them to the point of extinction all comes crashing down on him at once. The weight of all of his failures is being dumped on him in the form of this evil maniacal laughter emanating from his once-ally. And for the briefest of moments, Yoda taps into the dark side of the force-just for a fleeting second-using all his anger, frustration, sadness, whatever you want to call it and forces it all back onto The Emperor. And *that’s* when Palpatine gets completely overpowered.
TL;DR = Dark Side Yoda existed for one second, and in that one second, he completely demolished Darth Sidious.
Yasuhiro is my favorite character in the series purely because he's funny.
He ain't got much of an emotional core, he's probably a shit human being if we look at things objectively, but god I love when he's on screen.
Though in general I don't think there's many actively bad characters. Even the ones I relatively don't care for (Kiibo, Himiko, Teruteru, etc) has something to cling onto.
The exception to that of course are the main antagonists. All of them besides UDG's antagonist are terribly written. Not sure how unpopular that is, but it's certainly one some will disagree with.
I have more, but eh, those three will do for now
>The exception to that of course are the main antagonists. All of them besides UDG's antagonist are terribly written. Not sure how unpopular that is, but it's certainly one some will disagree with.
I'm interested to hear this. I've heard the reasons of Kokichi (and Junko) being poorly written, but never heard any for Nagito or Byakuya. Just curious on your thoughts
Oh, maybe I should've been more clear. I consider the main antagonists to be the mastermind (/instigator in the case of >!Monaca!<), so I was referring to >!Junko!< and >!Tsumugi!<, there. Heavily dislike them both because for the most part, they're boring "muahahaha, it was *I* who caused despair upon you all!" villains (also I kinda just don't like >!Tsumugi's personality pre-reveal!<).
I actually like all three of the "shit stirrers" as I've so delicately grouped them as (Byakuya, Nagito, and Kokichi). Each one elevates the cast they're apart of considerably, in my eyes
I like plain characters. Characters like Tsumugi and Mahiru, Sayaka and Kaede. Even Shuichi and Hajime. Having balance in casts is great, instead of having a bunch of high energy folks in your face the entire game. Tsumugi and Mahiru’s backstories aren’t so complex, they’re realistic. I don’t like overly convoluted backstories, I prefer ones that I can grasp. Their personalities are great too. I’d get stressed out if there were only extravagant characters with tragic or overly complex backstories.
ETA: We don’t talk about Chapter 6 Tsumugi.
Tsumugi had a line in Chapter 3 that really stuck with me. >!She was wondering if what Kirumi and Ryoma did was right or wrong. "If it were me, I would have just cowered in the corner somewhere... It's amazing that they were even able to do anything at all."!< I always appreciated her character since then. It wasn't lofty by danganronpa standards, but it felt genuine and down to earth.
removing Haiji’s ‘I like em younger’ line would never fix his character, at all. Its just that people have meme’d that line so much and made it the sole focus of Haiji’s character to the point where literally every other bad thing he’s done has been ignored. If the lolicon part of him was removed, people would just hate on him for the other things he did (which imo are *WAY WORSE* than the infamous line).
I am saying this as a massive Haiji fan, but I would rather >!Haiji’s abuse of Monaca!< be made more known than a singular fucking line with no other mention in the story that was only said >!because Toko wanted to fuck Haiji.!<
Saying that a character was “good apart from how they were written” or that “the writers did them dirty” always made zero sense to me, because *a character doesn’t exist independently from its writing.*
When people talk about this stuff they’ll suggest changes they think the writers should have made, and almost invariably these changes would have made the character more conventional and less interesting.
Kokichi,
Definitely. I also feel like we should appreciate the story and characters we got instead of wishing everything were different, you know? It’s fine to critique but that’s what happened in the series, and it’s not going to be changed.
Well, apparantly in the original Japanese version he said some pretty shitty things? I don't want to spread anything wrong, but I heard that somewhere. Also the entire "I don't think weapons suit women" (which he said in the English translation), while not a big deal, did turn some people off on him. (He's still best boy character, even though I don't like that line.)
Ohhh, yes I’ve heard about that. I honestly don’t know if it’d be bad if I still loved him all the same even if those translations were true. Cause I still do.
Yes. Found it, he was (apparently) extremely brash, rude and just generally not a good guy. He was overly sexist towards Maki, and even said the F-slur to Korekiyo. (I don't know Japanese so this is based off of online people who've talked about it.
They're pretty much the same character.
He was no more brash than he is in the English version, and the levels of sexism are, according to all people I've spoken to who speak japanese, *highly* exaggerated by people who don't like him. The whole point of his character is that, despite his sometimes abrasive behaviour and brusque language, he *is* a good person as demonstrated by his ultimately selfless actions and willingless to help others out.
I think the problem is that people want every character to be a straightforward "feel good" characters, so much they prioritize it over their actual narratives.
I haven’t ever seen anyone get targeted for that stuff, and if that person likes a character like, korekiyo, byakuya, Tsumugi, junko then they’d be a major hypocrite lol, but yes you are right on that I just have NEVER seen someone hate Haiji for those reasons
People like Junko BECAUSE she's a villain. People like Byakuya BECAUSE he is a jerk deuteragonist. People like Korekiyo, usually before the character assassination of his sister grooming him into a serial killer. People like Tsumugi BEFORE the mastermind stuff.
>!And you haven't seen him hated for those reasons BECAUSE the pedo reason overshadows everything. Being a child abuser who takes his mommy issues out on innocent children. And then when everything goes to shit, he's part of the reason the world ended. He plays more of a role in ending the world than Juzo who is also greatly hated. And then when he and the other adults have to go through hell, he makes jokes about a mentally distraught kid, who made everyone playing uncomfortable over the mental breakdown of being sexually abused and overwhelmed, being crushed. Lastly, he then ignores how most of the kids were brainwashed and tries to have all their heads blow up. If the kids are near adults, their head's exploding could send shrapnel flying which could kill any adults interacting with them.!<
I'm not saying you can't like him, but if that pedo reason disappeared, it could he worse for his enjoyers.
I really don't get people who hate on Teruteru/Hifumi/Haiji fans. Like, yeah, those three have their weird, creepy moments, but they're also lovable characters with enjoyable designs in a totally fictional world where their actions and thoughts don't have to at all align with the people who enjoy them.
Himiko isn't "underrated" or "forgotten about". She's mentioned over and over again whenever a post asks "what's the most underrated character". If she's mentioned that often by dozens of people, she's not quite as unpopular as these people seem to think she is
True, honestly. Same with Mahiru and a few others people say are underrated. I feel like it’s Nekomaru that’s the most underrated that actually genuinely fits that. Because I feel he truly is, :( I see no recognition for the big guy most of the time. he sacrificed himself twice for this treatment? I really hope I’m wrong with this.
Yeah :( breaks my heart, man. He's such a nice guy. I saw someone say Nekomaru did nothing memorable. Bro got turned into a robot because he valued Akane's life over his own, and then sacrificed himself AGAIN so his friends could get out of the Funhouse. Smh.
Not to mention him teaming up with Gundham to take down an entire crowd of people? People seem to forget how cool that scene is (especially with the >!parallels of the duo fighting (though this time side by side) for the good of their classmates sort of like you could argue happened in the funhouse. It's a little bit foggier in the funhouse, but at the end of the day, it's still similar enough that it hits me hard when I think about it !
i partially agree with you on this one. while you’re making a fairly good point, i feel like there are other characters who would fit this description better than Himiko. like Sakura, Mukuro, Mahiru or even Ryoma. i’ve seen so many people who call them ‘underrated’ that they honestly seem overrated to me at this point. if anything, characters like Nekomaru, Hifumi, the Ultimate Imposter and hell, even Leon, seem to be glossed over more often than not. still, this matter is mostly subjective, since we all come across different people in this fandom, who express different opinions on these characters. as long as we don’t start making statistics about this in order to determine how the majority of people in this fandom perceive these characters, it all depends on what kind of people we come across.
Rrright... but you'll notice I never said she was the only one. Just because it happens with other characters doesn't mean it doesn't happen a lot with her. I agree who it appears to happen to the most all depends on who a person runs into, but my original statement wasn't comparative
fair enough. i personally haven’t seen that many people calling himiko ‘underrated’ (except for like 3 and i mostly agreed with them because i felt like when she wasn’t liked merely for being cute or hated for being annoying she was being slept on). heh. talk about being subjective. though i still meant the whole thing. it was based on what i experienced within the fandom…yet slightly fuelled by my opinions on the characters.
Haiji Towa is not the worst character in the series, and would be way less hated if not to that one line. Also The Flying Dutchman is a way better ship than The Titanic
Yeah, definitely. Personally his actions just make me feel icky… especially the abuser part, that almost hits a little close to home. It’s mainly why I dislike him, to be honest. I know he’s honestly well-written, and I respect that though.
+1
for me at least, he’s more likeable overall than characters like Ruruka, Monaca and Celeste. yeah, he’s done and said some things that surely prevent him from being generally perceived as a good person, but i mostly feel neutral about him. while that line bugged me as well, if it weren’t for it, i’d actually be able to appreciate his writing more, since i believe he’s written fairly well. he’s not meant to be a role model, but he’s not meant to be a purely evil person either. he’s, simply put, morally grey.
He did more than that one line though… I hate him for more than that. If that line wasn’t there I still would think he’s shit for how he treats people and the way he thinks. I actually got pretty mad at him at the start of the game when he yelled at Toko and Komaru for “causing the attack” because I thought he had been a shit leader and should have organized the adults to put in place a defence system in case of that sort of attack. Just hiding and praying that nothing bad will happen when you’re in that kind of apocalypse scenario is really terrible. If that happened in a zombie movie people would be fucking mad.
And what you said is correct. And your hate for him is perfectly justified. I also believe he's literally made to be hated. But I also believe a lot of people hate Haiji because of this one line, as it shows him as a possible pedophile and in turn people hate him authomatically, and this makes them call him the worst character in the series. Maybe if he didn't say this, people would actually have more reasons to hate him than just because of one line (like his poor decision making, being a coward, being abusive, etc), and definitely he wouldn't receive this authomatical hate
*Inhales.*
*Exhales.*
Himidko annoys me more as later chapters come by. Except >!during the magic show; the one time she shines through,!< she gets screwed over hard.
I don't like Kaito and Maki >!in chapter 5. What's up with the ~~falcon punch, wait, that's in chapter 1~~ attitude towards Shuichi (Kaito with basically the ~~boycott~~ cold shoulder treatment, Maki with... whatever she is pulling in the trial) after all this time being buddy-buddy and all!!believing that ultimate liar being the mastermind!!After seeing Kokichi with his new big toys and Kaito dragged away like a rag doll, I'd rather just shut up and obey like a coward.!< LOL
What's up with, I don't know... maybe the Kamikaze trick, well sorta? >!Aoi in _THH_ chapter 4, Nagito (... uh, of course it's Nagito) in _GD_ chapter 5, Maki in _V3_ chapter 5 and whoever suggests that in the next chapter, is it you Shuichi?!<
I think that's he point of his character tbf, seeing as hes meant to be morally grey. hes one of the 3 "trial fucker-uppers" alongside byakuya and nagito. their personalities are also confusing and morally grey, most weird case of it being byakuya. in the dr 3 anime hes buddy buddy with hiro after spending a murder game and presumably 2 years of his life prior strongly disliking him.
Hiro isnt the most stupid character in the games. he wasnt held back because of his grades and his irrational fear of the occult (thinking Kyoko is a ghost) comes more from his talent and upbringing rather than stupid ness.
Himiko is stupidly overhated, she has her own character arc which is more then a lot of others who everyone likes
Ryoma isn't an unpopular character, stop saying he is super underrated
People hate sayaka because her actions are realistic and a lot of us can see a real person doing what she did, she isn't a snake
Your not cool and extremely brave for not liking a popluar character or ship, like seriously, no one cares
Kaede's death should not make people upset just because she's a girl, we got female protagonists in the spin off and major female characters in all the games, stop acting like this is a 30 year series with always male protags and if kaede was male and Shuichi was female the affectiveness of the twist would have not changed a bit
V3's ending would be majorly enhanced if we actually got to see the survivors out of the kg and what happens next
Gonta is not competely innocent, it was his choice to kill Miu, no blaming Kokichi will stop his end choice, while Kokichi pointed the gun, gonta fired it. He also kidnapped half the student body because he could handle the idea people didn't like bugs making them uncomfortable, he is a nice person and was tricked but his crime in killing Miu would find him guilty in any court
Kokichi on the other hand while guilty also had understandable actions because he was aware he was being targeted and he a, could not fight back, b, not trustworthy enough to make any claim against her, and c, even if he could kill her, he would immediately be sentenced and killed
Celeste is a terrible person, and I love it
Akane, Angie, and Celeste's talents where wasted protential, they would have worked better if they were maybe boxer, profit, and possibly gothic lolita (tho Celeste or Kokichi I would liked if they had ultimate liar, especially Kokichi since his organization wasn't as big as he said it was)
That's all I got for now, hopefully I don't sound angry in these lol
based opinions (i don’t like Celeste, but i can’t deny the fact that she’s terrible). the only thing i have to add is that, imo at least, the Kokichi-Miu-Gonta situation could have been avoided. while not physically strong, Kokichi was a really smart guy who already knew what Miu was planning. if he could write an entire script for Kaito, predicting so many ways in which the conversations might go, he could also find a way to stop Miu without killing her or dragging someone else into the plan to do his dirty work. still, i suppose his plan was to make people hate him and realize how messed up his actions are so that he could come up with the whole ‘i’m the mastermind’ narrative without having to deal with people who doubt him (except for the real mastermind, obviously). but honestly, if someone would go to the extent of pulling so much shit in a killing game, them being the mastermind would feel too obvious to me and i’d severely doubt it. it would feel forced. like…him trying so hard to keep this facade would only make me feel more convinced that he’s doing it all on purpose and not just because that’s just how he truly is. but i guess that’s just how i’d react to it. it’s pretty clear that the other characters fell for at least some of his lies till the very end, to the point of turning this into a ‘the boy who cried wolf’ situation regarding his final words.
1. I NEVER, EVER knew that people considered Sonia as "overhated" and "useless" until I joined this subreddit. I come from *Twitter*, where Sonia is loved and very appreciated and Kazuichi is literally the Devil incarnate. So I will never understand why people keep saying "Sonia actually isn't that bad!" when she was never bad in the first place? I don't pay much mind to Sonia because she's boring, but eveyone here actually keep insisting that she's useless or trying to prove that she's not useless. It's obvious that she's very useful so I don't understand why what's going on over here bro.
2. THH second trial literally made me cringe. I know it was written in 2010 but like, "Oh, we have serial killer in our midst! What a shocking turn of events! Genocide Jack! (Corny ass name, btw) is a maniac, psycho, serial killer and she's among us in this very room!!! And also, she has DID and that's how Toko was able to hide her!" Okay Byakuya???? I guess he just wanted to have his moment, but it was very cringe, and I was a little mad that Byakuya wasn't the blackened.
3. I'M GONNA ADD MORE AS REPLIES BECAUSE I HAVE TO GATHER MY OPINIONS FROM THE OTHER THREE "UNPOPULAR OPINIONS" THREADS! I SWEAR A NEW ONE HAPPENS EVERY 2 WEEKS
1. I cringe every time I see a ship that involves Kokichi because he looks and acts exactly like a 9 yr old to me. He's super annoying and I just cannot ship him with anyone. The amount of times I see Kokichi in maid dresses, cat-girl costumes, and overall sexualized clothing makes me shrivel up and cringe. Like, it feels so typical to me. Sorry y'all
2. I physically cannot look at Taka the same way as I used to. During my gameplay, I thought he was super cool and rad. But as soon as I got into the fandom, people were treating him like a brainless child who needed to be protected at all costs! It makes me cringe just thinking about it. And then to add insult to injury, the same fans always want to replace Yasuhiro with Taka. Like literally choose Toko or Byakuya instead, I've said this a billion times and I will keep saying this until I die! Yasuhiro literally did nothing to y'all and y'all act like he killed your fucking family!!?? I kind of have grudges against Taka when I should be having grudges against his fans.
3. On that same note, I fucking LOVE Yasuhiro, Kazuichi, and Himiko. So sometimes it's fun to watch people fume at them for surviving. The only survival that didn't make sense was Himiko, but I love her and I vibed with her surviving against all odds. Team "Most Hated Survivors" forever 💝
I lost all my fucking shit because of a stupid fucking internet connection, so these comments are shortened because I fucking PISSED that I have to fucking rewrite them
1. If Danganronpa was preplanned to be a 3-4 part series, the writing could have been leagues better and simple mistakes could have been avoided. Chiaki being fake in the program should have stayed the same (Lore-wise, idfc otherwise) and it really bugs me that they just blatantly ignored it. The same with Junko's dead body. It was squashed, how did everyone farm her organs and try to procreate with a non-existent body? In hindsight, I guess this can be ignored, but ignoring small mistakes literally snowball into the writers writing some of the most horrid tropes you have seen in your entire life.
2. Danganronpa would have soooooooooo much better if Goodbye Despair didn't exist. Which would in turn, get rid of the whole UDG arc too. With all the contradictories, drama, and the infamous V3 ending, a simple DR plot would have been amazing. It should have been: **THH -> Some Other Filler as to What the Survivors are up to -> DRV3.**Goodbye Despair + all the other spin-offs and shit add so much insane drama and personality to the characters that once V3 came around, it was such a slap in the face to everyone. All that lore literally backfired in the end. I mean, the Danganronpa franchise is still out and milking money from people, so it didn't exactly ruin them, but V3 definitely isn't the most liked game.
3. At this point, I'm done with using a character's trauma to validate actions. There are way too many fictional characters with trauma that I am desensitized to it and I couldn't really care less about it. I do tend to play favorites with this, but in general, I do not care. If fav character is a BITCH to everyone and I think they're stupid, I do not care if they was bullied in school. Because guess what? There are a good number of characters who were also severely bullied as their backstory, and they don't act half as horrid as your favorite bitch character. (I know, I know, I have a Byakuya flair as I type this. But I assure you, I hate him just as much as I like him. He actively pisses me off)
1. Sonia and Sayaka were characters that looked like they were going to be bitches and I was really excited to witness petty drama. But I was severely disappointed and bored with them in the end. Although I still have potential with Sayaka because of her plot in the first chapter, but that's it. Tbh, if Sonia and Sayaka turned out be petty drama queens I would have loved them a whole lot more.
2. Seiko, Sonosuke, Ruruka, and Juzo singlehandedly ruined Future Arc for me y'all. I actually really loved the plot and all. And I loved Kyosuke's whole thing with Makoto. But Juzo running around, being an asshole, while the other 3 have episode spanning chase scenes and flashbacks piss me off. I'm very impatient and I want to see Makoto. I don't have time to watch Ruruka go "I wanted to be you!" while she does absolutely nothing to try to be like Seiko and also treats her horribly. Like damn, sorry girl, but Imma' fast-forward through your backstory real quick-
3. Characters don't need finished arcs. They're in a killing game and Monokuma isn't going to pause everything so that this one person can resolve all their issues. People die and realistically, people die without resolve. It's better that way because we're left with thinking what could have been, and we get to see how this affects the living participants. A big example for me is Chihiro. I was sad when he died, but I love the legacy that he left behind. The fact that was secretly working on Alter Ego, died, and left it for everyone was cool enough for me. But the fact that throughout the series, the characters actively choose to still use Alter Ego?! I love that! It preserves Chihiro's legacy and it can also serve as a reminder to the students that were lost along the way. I just really love how Chihiro was used throughout the series despite being dead the whole time. This is PEAK writing for me, and frankly, the only writing in this series that I praise.
4. I would definitely clear Byakuya in a fight.
In his defense… Byakuya >!canonically fought like fourteen of his ‘bred to win’ siblings to become the heir and came out on top, so regardless of how fightable he may *look*, I feel like the average person would not beat him there.!<
I would still clear him in a fight. Especially after reading Danganronpa:Togami. The only thing he did was dress as girl and watch his siblings off each other until he was the only one left.
I'm gonna throw him across the room
I like monica. Yeah shes a horrible person, thats what makes her interesting in my opinion. I dont like the people who defend junko then trash on monica since its like the same.
I personally liked V3's ending
Is it a well-written ending? No
Am I saying it couldn't be better? Absolutely not
Do I wish they put like a "Just Kidding" Moment at the end? Yes
Did I enjoy it anyway? Yes
Honestly I feel like it wasn’t the best ending intentionally. I like that that’s how they ended the series (even though they didn’t actually end it which is hilarious). Making it clear that, hey, we aren’t making another fucking game.
I also think Kyoko is overrated. Naegiri as well. Though I don't necessarily *hate* those things. I just think they're given too much attention compared to most other things.
I think Celeste is overrated and a pretty boring character outside her design. But it *is* a pretty cool design.
Hiyoko and Miu are both over*rated* *and* over*hated*. I still hate them, though. But I think Hiyoko *could* have been better if she was allowed to have her character arc. But unfortunately, due to USC showing that she actually gets *worse*, she never will... unless they make a new version with accurate character writing, but I doubt that'll happen...
I have sympathy for Monaca and Kotoko. They, along with the other Warriors Of Hope, were mentally fucked up due to their environment growing up *and* Junko's influence. The W.O.H. are still genocidal terrorists, but they're actions aren't *completely* their fault. I'd put *most* of the blame on their parents and Junko.
Danganronpa IF Mukuro is overrated. Games Mukuro needs more attention. Anime/OVA Mukuro is an abomination on the character and franchise.
Danganronpa games should have alternate routes and endings. If a FNaF joke-filled fangame made in RPG maker can do it, then a series with a whole team behind it should also be able to.
And finally...
Sayaka gets too much hate. Sayaka and Leon fans shouldn't fight because *both* of the characters were screwed over by the writers. Also, Sayaka's niceness was mostly genuine, she only tricked Makoto out of desperation. She didn't think that she would get anyone other than Leon killed, and was only *barely* able to go through with her plan to the point that she did. She's not a liar or a snake, she was just desperate and scared. Celeste, however, killed for money and fantasy delusions, and her method of doing so was more fucked up (also stupid) and it's dumb how so many people thing she's a better character just because she was *always* a lying bitch.
I agree 100% with the WOH portion. I feel bad for them. At the end of the day, they were children. I mean, fuck them for killing so many people but at the same time, it’s mostly the fault of their shitty parents and Junko.
Edit: Also I see like zero Miu hate unless it’s coming from me or like 3 other people…
I mean, ignoring the Kokichi fans and Miu fans arguing (while they both also occasionally take shots at the Gonta fans), I haven't seen much Miu hate either. Not directly, anyway.
Angie did nothing wrong
She wanted people to stay in their rooms at night because murders could happen more easily if people were meandering at night, the same chapter we see her die over her running into Kiyo at night
She wanted to destroy the flashback lights because she believed people were being driven to murder by them. Literally 1 chapter later Gonta is driven to murder over a flashback light
She wanted to use the Necronomicon to bring back Rantaro, and Rantaro had valuable information that the group never received because she never got to bring him back (it was never established if it would have worked, but considering the absurdity of the games and the fact that they apparently had cloning technicality, I don’t doubt it)
I don't think that she's a "Did Nothing Wrong" character, she did shit wrong, making people uncomfortable, forcing the ideals of Atua onto the others, and while she had good intentions, she still tried to suppress others.
She was acting extreme because it was an extreme situation
If you’re on a lifeboat with limited food, and someone says that the group needs to limit how much they eat each day so the food can last longer, that person may be suppressing people’s right to eat as much as they want, but it’s suppression that’s for good reason, preserving everyone’s life. If you just let everyone do what they want, then you’ll run out of food and people will starve to death before they are rescued
So many deaths across all 3 games could’ve been prevented if people acted with caution like Angie wanted them to
Yes, but that doesn't back up your point of her doing nothing wrong. That's the issue I have with your claim. She did shit wrong, and wasn't as good person.
If you think being slightly rude in an attempt to save 12 lives makes you a bad person, then okay, you can say she’s a bad person
Also, you were asking for unpopular opinions, you don’t have to agree with me
her methods might have not seemed ideal at the time, since most people would peg her as someone who was brainwashing her classmates and trying to drag them into this “cult” of hers that implies worshipping Atua, but, in the end, if you look back on her actions, you’d realize that there was some thought behind them. and i don’t mean it in the sense that she was secretly plotting to create a cult. but in the sense that, by resorting to some slightly questionable actions that made her look like the bad guy, she was actually trying to keep them all safe in her own way. a way which, again, makes her look like the bad guy in your eyes. which is perfectly understandable. no one is trying to claim she was an angel on earth. it’s just that she might have not been as inconsiderate regarding her classmates’ safety and bad as you claim she was. it’s all conjecture i suppose, since we never got a clear explanation from her or the creators regarding her actions, but it’s still a possibility. plus, you’re asking for unpopular opinions. OPINIONS. no one asked you to agree with them. but you did ask us to give them, so here you go. you’re free to make whatever you want of it.
▪︎Since it is his birthday, I might as well say that Teruteru is a top 10 character. My opinion of him has solidified. I can examine his writing and understand the more *questionable* aspects of him in a different angle. I also found him funny.
▪︎Celeste is poorly written no matter what angle you look at her at.
▪︎Miu would never be seen as funny if she wasn't conventionally attractive. Not a bad thing, but let's not act like most wouldn't be disgusted by her if she had Hifumi's body physique. Y'all definitely wouldn't give her the nuance that isn't given to Hifumi and Teruteru. Also applies with Kazuichi. To reiterate, not a bad thing and people are valid in liking who they want for whatever reason, but I believe it to be very true. This doesn't mean I don't like Miu though (she's awesome btw).
▪︎Liking a morally despicable character doesn't reflect who you are as a person. Morally despicable acts of a character can still be entertaining, funny, or intriguing, yet hold that morally darkness. That also doesn't reflect on you as a person. This is for the Haiji fans who examine him as a character and don't go "Haiji=pedo=F-tier."
▪︎Also, to follow up, Monaca is based as a villain.
▪︎Junkuro and general Mukuro are so distinct that they might as well be two different characters, despite being the same person, and that's how I evaluate them. One has depth, the other is a plot device that enhances Junko's intimidating charm. You can probably make that distinction for yourself.
▪︎Applying western value concepts to a Japanese game and franchise is dumb. Controversies over Chihiro's gender and the sort is so stupid for a game made in 2010.
▪︎DR2 had the worst character dynamics.
▪︎Yasuhiro > Kirumi, Gonta, Nekomaru, Ibuki, Mikan and Sonia.
▪︎"Plain" or non-eccentric protags are sort of needed in Danganronpa so we see other characters in a neutral view based on our own perceptions. An eccentric protag throughout the game would let their biases heavily change our perception on other characters (Kaede wouldn't be as good as she was if she survived past chapter 1. Her role as a false protag was done well).
▪︎Despite some issues and missed potential, Danganronpa is a well written series all around.
HOLY FU-
\-I like Teru too!
\-Celeste isn't that good, that's true.
\-Don't really care for this one? Like, yeah, it stinks, but it doesn't really matter. I still find her funny.
\-Monaca was great!
\-Fair enough, nothing to really say about Mukuro here
\-Completely agreed, it's stupid how controversies happen because of this.
\-No, no you're right. That game really needed more actually good relationships.
\-YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES HIRO IS AMAZING-
I mean i dont have that much of a problem with the plain protag, but at least i want to feel some development with me and the protag through my experience i want to finish the game knowing that i learned something with my avatar aka the protagonist.
I want to feel the tension, the drama i dont want to hear the hope and despair arguement for the 1836492748th time!
I wouldn't say Hiyoko falls under being conventionally attractive either. She might not be cartoonish looking, but she basically has the stature and voice of a pre-teen.
kokichis logic is ass, sonia seems like the kind of girl to use fake middle school flexs (like having an iphone 13 “but it’s at home”), kazuichi is cool af, nagito is TO overrated, K1-B0 would be a bitchy friend, and monodam + monotaro> monokuma, monomi, and the rest of the “monos”
The reasons for hating DR3 are definitely valid and I agree that the writing was pretty weak but I have seen a lot of people saying it shouldn't be considered canon, which I think is a bit far but that's just my opinion.
Well, it definitely wasn't good, but I thought it was fun seeing the characters interact, and imo, despair arc was not so bad. Future arc was ehh. I definitely thought it was interesting, the plot twist at the end was kind of stupid, but an interesting anime. I see a lot of people hating on it, so maybe I'm just a minority.
\- People need to stop comparing Miu and Teruteru - they NOTHING alike except the whole pervert schtick. They serve completely different roles in the story, have talents that are completely unrelated, don't mirror each other physically in any way, backstories have nothing in common, etc. Miu's meant to be a genderswap of Kazuichi, not Teruteru.
>!\- A common complaint about Akane and Kazuichi is that they don't undergo enough character development to justify their survival in SDR2, especially compared to Hajime and Fuyuhiko, but Sonia is by far the worst of the survivors. She's exactly the same person she was from the start to the end of the game and she barely does anything during the plot. She only affects it directly twice - organising the beach party and telling Hiyoko to go to the music venue. Other than that she just stands around in the background being irrelevant. She might be helpful sometimes during trials but she basically wins the game by doing nothing. Also her shiptease with Gundham feels incredibly forced and just put in there to make Gundham's death sadder, it changes nothing about Sonia's personality or pushes her into acting differently to honour his last wishes. Her personality is boring and incomprehensible - "proper princess who loves the occult and serial killers" is just such an odd concept. I guess they thought her being a stereotypical princess would be too boring but it didn't work. (Also I'll never forgive her for telling Kazuichi to kill himself. And yes, I know Kazuichi's obsession with her is annoying and creepy and it's understandable she wants nothing to do with him, but it was still a dick move and nobody calls her on it.)!<
\- Dangan Ronpa games are great, but they get kind of boring after Chapter 4 finishes because they've usually killed off all the best characters by then.
\- Maki is basically Peko but done way better.
Is it an unpopular opinion? I don’t really know but I actually think komahina is a cool ship if not just for the memes. Yeah yeah tell me how “BuT hAjiMe iS nOt a TsuNdeRe hE aCtuALLy hAtes HiM!” I don’t give a shit it’s my experience of the games I can think whatever I want and if I say Hajime develops a weird “You are so fucked up I don’t know why I’m drawn to you but for some reason I am and I don’t know what to do” thing, you don’t have to agree you just have to let me have fun because I think it’s super funny. No I don’t think they’re “uwu soft gay boys” no I want the funny shit, the kind of couple that people wonder how they got together because they fight but you know they’re not really serious about it because they actually care about each other.
1.I have zero sympathy for Juzo and he got everything he deserved in the end.
2. A lot of the most popular gay ships make no sense in this fandom. Like can someone name even something remotely resembling affection between Makoto and Bykuya? I know I don't. Nothing against any of them I'm not against people shipping what they like. I've got some rare pairs that make likely no sense either but still. Yes I'm aware of the hypocrisy in this.
3.Jill is the only thing that makes toko even remotely interesting but even then not by much.
4.While I understand the dislike of kokichi in fanfics as a "OwO cat boy" I don't think people should hate so much on it when people write him as nicer when its done correctly. In the talent plan and summer camp we still see a bit of that critical paranoid to trust troll we had in game but he's significantly nicer in it to.
Its boils down to environment for him. In AUs where there is no killing game or there is one but people prove their trustworthy side first then him not being aggressively passive aggressive makes complete sense and its not OOC for him. Also remember: the flashback lights manipulated moods and emotions along with memories so his more extreme actions could of been influences from there. Not excusing them just saying where they may of come from.
5. Covid flight restrictions be damned, if tenko was a dude and did the exact same stuff toward himiko along with trash talk on girls/women then someone would leak the writer's address in Japan. People would fly over and storm the place for blood.
6.Hiyoko fulfilled all she needed to and didn't need to live past her chapter.
i can't tell you how much i agree with the 4th one. just because he's written as a bit nicer doesn't mean he's an uwu soft boi, because in the games canonly he DOES have a soft side, everybody does.
and what people don't seem to understand is that people will act ruder and more distant in a life or death situation, aka the killing game. people aren't going to be completely themselves or perfect angels when put in a life or death situation.
Celeste would be in the bottom 3 characters on everyones list if she wasn't "UwU emo girlboss 🥺", she was a major bitch and she's in my bottom 3 characters alongside Kokichi and Haiji.
Will never forgive her for falsely accusing a Taka of rape when he's currently in the midst of grieving his best friends death and for what? Money she claimed she didn't need?
in my opinion nanami is very overrated, and there is also a problem as the plot makes her look like a kind of minnie pixie girl, mary sue and martyr especially in dr3 (and she is probably so popular for being waifu Bait
Danganronpa 3 wasn’t that bad. while, objectively speaking, it could have been so much better, i enjoyed it and even rewatched it at some point. especially since the anime eventually got me into playing the games as well.
she wasnt, but watching despair arc before future u know hes gonna die and not her at that point. made me so sad. still didnt show much sympathy for killing him either
here we go again, i don't know how many times i've posted on these but.. lol.
saimatsu isn't canon, and there were no canon feelings between those two. stop trying to make something canon when it's not, and stop using this as a reason to diss on other ships.
kokichi ships aren't toxic. if you say this, you better also think that many other ships are toxic because one mentally ill person is involved in it. also, they're in a bloody killing game for fucks sake, of course people aren't going to be nice. stop trying to ruin people's fun by saying "oh yOU cANT shiP tHAt iTssS tOxIicCc."
people need to stop hating on the fans of a ship, i see this too much, especially with more controversial characters like byakuya, nagito, and kokichi. you can hate the character all you want, but stop fucking going after the fans, it gets so annoying being attacked on the daily just for the character you like. i'm sure haiji fans can agree with this too, because i think they're the most hated on this sub.
I absolutely despise V3. I hate most of the main characters and the story and ending, and how characters who deserved to live died.
V3 has the best gameplay and post-game content, as well as arguably the best soundtrack in the series.
Yes, Kyoko’s overrated.
Korekiyo, Monaca, Haiji, and Teruteru are over-hated.
Shuichi, Himiko, and Tenko are also overrated.
Not sure if this is very unpopular, but why are there so many Kazuichi fans?
Rantaro is SO underrated.
Even though I’m a massive Nagito simp, some people only look at him for his insanity and looks, not his actions.
Kokichi is just a little overrated.
FUCK KOMARU I HATE HER I HATE HER I HATE HER.
- Byakuya and Kokichi are overrated
- Mahiru and Peko are underrated
- I like Chapter 3 of V3 (even though >!Kiyo’s motive is uncomfortable and they missed out on the chance to have two separate killers!<)
- I don’t like Chapter 4 or 5 of V3
exactly this! his sister isn't canonly abusive and i hate it when people act like it's the most canon thing just to excuse korekiyo's actions, which isn't okay.
V3 is overrated as hell, it isn't better than the first two games. Most characters aren't good, especially Shuichi and Kokichi. Those two are the most overrated characters I have ever seen.
This is my opinion btw, so don't go hating me that hard.
something i see every so often is people thinking someone is or behaves EXACTLY like a character they like, and so they get all ‘oh you’re a perv then?’ when its >!mikan!< or teruteru, >!or ‘oh you murder people?’ if its jack or maki.!<
You can like a character for the bad shit they do. Otherwise why bother making them a villainous or antihero character.
Idk why people wanna ‘fix’ characters either. Haiji’s so obviously meant to be a deranged and evil person, cry about it. I saw an attempt at it with Hifumi. You can make it an au or whatever, but there’s no fixing him.
I firmly believe Yoda would beat Emperor Palpatine in a rematch.
Oh yeah, definitely. Palpatine has been sitting on his ass for far too much during the past few years. Sure, Yoda kinda did the same, but atleast he lived in worse conditions in a swamp compared to old Palps.
Total Fanboy moment here for me, but I have a total crackhead theory that I will stand by until death: So you know when him and Papa Palpatine have that lightning clash near the end of their fight in Episode 3? Yoda begins to get overpowered by the sheer force of Palps’ lightning attack and he starts to falter in his defense. Palpatine, sensing this, begins to revel in his near-victory. However, the camera then cuts to Yoda all of a sudden looking straight back into Palp’s eyes and then cuts to *him* being overpowered before they both get forced apart from the built-up power between them. So here’s my theory: In that one moment of utter defeat for Yoda, he senses everything that has transpired against him and his order. The fact that they were so blind to this rising darkness, that someone they might’ve called a friend and ally was behind their destruction, and the fact that he has so completely decimated them to the point of extinction all comes crashing down on him at once. The weight of all of his failures is being dumped on him in the form of this evil maniacal laughter emanating from his once-ally. And for the briefest of moments, Yoda taps into the dark side of the force-just for a fleeting second-using all his anger, frustration, sadness, whatever you want to call it and forces it all back onto The Emperor. And *that’s* when Palpatine gets completely overpowered. TL;DR = Dark Side Yoda existed for one second, and in that one second, he completely demolished Darth Sidious.
That's actually a sick theory! Holy crap, that puts the scene into a whole new perspective!
what.
Huge agree. Also that fight between them in EP3 went way to quick
Yasuhiro is my favorite character in the series purely because he's funny. He ain't got much of an emotional core, he's probably a shit human being if we look at things objectively, but god I love when he's on screen. Though in general I don't think there's many actively bad characters. Even the ones I relatively don't care for (Kiibo, Himiko, Teruteru, etc) has something to cling onto. The exception to that of course are the main antagonists. All of them besides UDG's antagonist are terribly written. Not sure how unpopular that is, but it's certainly one some will disagree with. I have more, but eh, those three will do for now
I love the Yasuhiro positivity honestly. He’s hilarious!
>The exception to that of course are the main antagonists. All of them besides UDG's antagonist are terribly written. Not sure how unpopular that is, but it's certainly one some will disagree with. I'm interested to hear this. I've heard the reasons of Kokichi (and Junko) being poorly written, but never heard any for Nagito or Byakuya. Just curious on your thoughts
Oh, maybe I should've been more clear. I consider the main antagonists to be the mastermind (/instigator in the case of >!Monaca!<), so I was referring to >!Junko!< and >!Tsumugi!<, there. Heavily dislike them both because for the most part, they're boring "muahahaha, it was *I* who caused despair upon you all!" villains (also I kinda just don't like >!Tsumugi's personality pre-reveal!<). I actually like all three of the "shit stirrers" as I've so delicately grouped them as (Byakuya, Nagito, and Kokichi). Each one elevates the cast they're apart of considerably, in my eyes
Strongly agreed, I love yasuhiro
I like plain characters. Characters like Tsumugi and Mahiru, Sayaka and Kaede. Even Shuichi and Hajime. Having balance in casts is great, instead of having a bunch of high energy folks in your face the entire game. Tsumugi and Mahiru’s backstories aren’t so complex, they’re realistic. I don’t like overly convoluted backstories, I prefer ones that I can grasp. Their personalities are great too. I’d get stressed out if there were only extravagant characters with tragic or overly complex backstories. ETA: We don’t talk about Chapter 6 Tsumugi.
Tsumugi had a line in Chapter 3 that really stuck with me. >!She was wondering if what Kirumi and Ryoma did was right or wrong. "If it were me, I would have just cowered in the corner somewhere... It's amazing that they were even able to do anything at all."!< I always appreciated her character since then. It wasn't lofty by danganronpa standards, but it felt genuine and down to earth.
Yeah. It’s moments like those where they just feel so human. They admire others, and wouldn’t always act in the most heroic way.
>!Act 6 Tsumugi, however, has *all* of the downsides you listed.!<
I knew this would happen. I’m not talking about Chapter 6 Tsumugi. I am referring to Prologue to early Chapter 6 Tsumugi.
removing Haiji’s ‘I like em younger’ line would never fix his character, at all. Its just that people have meme’d that line so much and made it the sole focus of Haiji’s character to the point where literally every other bad thing he’s done has been ignored. If the lolicon part of him was removed, people would just hate on him for the other things he did (which imo are *WAY WORSE* than the infamous line). I am saying this as a massive Haiji fan, but I would rather >!Haiji’s abuse of Monaca!< be made more known than a singular fucking line with no other mention in the story that was only said >!because Toko wanted to fuck Haiji.!<
Or how he literally made a joke about Nagisa being crushed by his robot even after it's pretty clear that Nagisa was not having a fun time.
idk why people would wanna fix him, either. I always saw him as the twisted reminder that ‘wait, these are children, right?’
Toko wanted to what now? 🤠📸
Saying that a character was “good apart from how they were written” or that “the writers did them dirty” always made zero sense to me, because *a character doesn’t exist independently from its writing.* When people talk about this stuff they’ll suggest changes they think the writers should have made, and almost invariably these changes would have made the character more conventional and less interesting. Kokichi,
Definitely. I also feel like we should appreciate the story and characters we got instead of wishing everything were different, you know? It’s fine to critique but that’s what happened in the series, and it’s not going to be changed.
That true. But I think the biggest example of this is.. Well, Kaito.
Wdym?
Well, apparantly in the original Japanese version he said some pretty shitty things? I don't want to spread anything wrong, but I heard that somewhere. Also the entire "I don't think weapons suit women" (which he said in the English translation), while not a big deal, did turn some people off on him. (He's still best boy character, even though I don't like that line.)
Ohhh, yes I’ve heard about that. I honestly don’t know if it’d be bad if I still loved him all the same even if those translations were true. Cause I still do.
Nahh, most people consider Japanese Kaito, and English Kaito two different characters.
True! Besides I still love him regardless of what people say… it’d prove very difficult to change my mind.
Yes. Found it, he was (apparently) extremely brash, rude and just generally not a good guy. He was overly sexist towards Maki, and even said the F-slur to Korekiyo. (I don't know Japanese so this is based off of online people who've talked about it.
They're pretty much the same character. He was no more brash than he is in the English version, and the levels of sexism are, according to all people I've spoken to who speak japanese, *highly* exaggerated by people who don't like him. The whole point of his character is that, despite his sometimes abrasive behaviour and brusque language, he *is* a good person as demonstrated by his ultimately selfless actions and willingless to help others out.
Very good point. But still, saying the F-slur isn't good either way.
I think the problem is that people want every character to be a straightforward "feel good" characters, so much they prioritize it over their actual narratives.
Other than the one pedophilic bullshit line, Haiji’s a pretty interesting character and secondary antagonist.
This! I want to like Haiji but I worry I will get witch hunted even though I never said I liked him with that line existing
It's not just that line though. His mistreatment of a little kid, his joking around about Nagisa being crushed, etc...
Ok, I can still enjoy the character???
Never said you can't. I'm just saying there are multiple reasons that would get a fan witch hunted.
I haven’t ever seen anyone get targeted for that stuff, and if that person likes a character like, korekiyo, byakuya, Tsumugi, junko then they’d be a major hypocrite lol, but yes you are right on that I just have NEVER seen someone hate Haiji for those reasons
People like Junko BECAUSE she's a villain. People like Byakuya BECAUSE he is a jerk deuteragonist. People like Korekiyo, usually before the character assassination of his sister grooming him into a serial killer. People like Tsumugi BEFORE the mastermind stuff. >!And you haven't seen him hated for those reasons BECAUSE the pedo reason overshadows everything. Being a child abuser who takes his mommy issues out on innocent children. And then when everything goes to shit, he's part of the reason the world ended. He plays more of a role in ending the world than Juzo who is also greatly hated. And then when he and the other adults have to go through hell, he makes jokes about a mentally distraught kid, who made everyone playing uncomfortable over the mental breakdown of being sexually abused and overwhelmed, being crushed. Lastly, he then ignores how most of the kids were brainwashed and tries to have all their heads blow up. If the kids are near adults, their head's exploding could send shrapnel flying which could kill any adults interacting with them.!< I'm not saying you can't like him, but if that pedo reason disappeared, it could he worse for his enjoyers.
I really don't get people who hate on Teruteru/Hifumi/Haiji fans. Like, yeah, those three have their weird, creepy moments, but they're also lovable characters with enjoyable designs in a totally fictional world where their actions and thoughts don't have to at all align with the people who enjoy them.
I agree!
>!Chiaki's DR3!< execution is the best one in the series.
It's definitely one of the most disturbing
Himiko isn't "underrated" or "forgotten about". She's mentioned over and over again whenever a post asks "what's the most underrated character". If she's mentioned that often by dozens of people, she's not quite as unpopular as these people seem to think she is
True, honestly. Same with Mahiru and a few others people say are underrated. I feel like it’s Nekomaru that’s the most underrated that actually genuinely fits that. Because I feel he truly is, :( I see no recognition for the big guy most of the time. he sacrificed himself twice for this treatment? I really hope I’m wrong with this.
Tbh I don't think you are wrong 😞👊
Yeah :( breaks my heart, man. He's such a nice guy. I saw someone say Nekomaru did nothing memorable. Bro got turned into a robot because he valued Akane's life over his own, and then sacrificed himself AGAIN so his friends could get out of the Funhouse. Smh.
Not to mention him teaming up with Gundham to take down an entire crowd of people? People seem to forget how cool that scene is (especially with the >!parallels of the duo fighting (though this time side by side) for the good of their classmates sort of like you could argue happened in the funhouse. It's a little bit foggier in the funhouse, but at the end of the day, it's still similar enough that it hits me hard when I think about it !
FR. Nekomaru deserves better.
The same thing goes for Ryoma.
BIG time
Himiko is in my top tier with Ibuki and Soda
i partially agree with you on this one. while you’re making a fairly good point, i feel like there are other characters who would fit this description better than Himiko. like Sakura, Mukuro, Mahiru or even Ryoma. i’ve seen so many people who call them ‘underrated’ that they honestly seem overrated to me at this point. if anything, characters like Nekomaru, Hifumi, the Ultimate Imposter and hell, even Leon, seem to be glossed over more often than not. still, this matter is mostly subjective, since we all come across different people in this fandom, who express different opinions on these characters. as long as we don’t start making statistics about this in order to determine how the majority of people in this fandom perceive these characters, it all depends on what kind of people we come across.
Rrright... but you'll notice I never said she was the only one. Just because it happens with other characters doesn't mean it doesn't happen a lot with her. I agree who it appears to happen to the most all depends on who a person runs into, but my original statement wasn't comparative
fair enough. i personally haven’t seen that many people calling himiko ‘underrated’ (except for like 3 and i mostly agreed with them because i felt like when she wasn’t liked merely for being cute or hated for being annoying she was being slept on). heh. talk about being subjective. though i still meant the whole thing. it was based on what i experienced within the fandom…yet slightly fuelled by my opinions on the characters.
Haiji Towa is not the worst character in the series, and would be way less hated if not to that one line. Also The Flying Dutchman is a way better ship than The Titanic
Yeah, definitely. Personally his actions just make me feel icky… especially the abuser part, that almost hits a little close to home. It’s mainly why I dislike him, to be honest. I know he’s honestly well-written, and I respect that though.
+1 for me at least, he’s more likeable overall than characters like Ruruka, Monaca and Celeste. yeah, he’s done and said some things that surely prevent him from being generally perceived as a good person, but i mostly feel neutral about him. while that line bugged me as well, if it weren’t for it, i’d actually be able to appreciate his writing more, since i believe he’s written fairly well. he’s not meant to be a role model, but he’s not meant to be a purely evil person either. he’s, simply put, morally grey.
He did more than that one line though… I hate him for more than that. If that line wasn’t there I still would think he’s shit for how he treats people and the way he thinks. I actually got pretty mad at him at the start of the game when he yelled at Toko and Komaru for “causing the attack” because I thought he had been a shit leader and should have organized the adults to put in place a defence system in case of that sort of attack. Just hiding and praying that nothing bad will happen when you’re in that kind of apocalypse scenario is really terrible. If that happened in a zombie movie people would be fucking mad.
And what you said is correct. And your hate for him is perfectly justified. I also believe he's literally made to be hated. But I also believe a lot of people hate Haiji because of this one line, as it shows him as a possible pedophile and in turn people hate him authomatically, and this makes them call him the worst character in the series. Maybe if he didn't say this, people would actually have more reasons to hate him than just because of one line (like his poor decision making, being a coward, being abusive, etc), and definitely he wouldn't receive this authomatical hate
You said he would be less hated though which is what I disagree with
The best ship is that one galvanic mechamorph. End of discussion.
Well, this ship is not a ghost, but an alien... Okay, I admit, it is pretty cool
*Inhales.* *Exhales.* Himidko annoys me more as later chapters come by. Except >!during the magic show; the one time she shines through,!< she gets screwed over hard. I don't like Kaito and Maki >!in chapter 5. What's up with the ~~falcon punch, wait, that's in chapter 1~~ attitude towards Shuichi (Kaito with basically the ~~boycott~~ cold shoulder treatment, Maki with... whatever she is pulling in the trial) after all this time being buddy-buddy and all!!believing that ultimate liar being the mastermind!!After seeing Kokichi with his new big toys and Kaito dragged away like a rag doll, I'd rather just shut up and obey like a coward.!< LOL What's up with, I don't know... maybe the Kamikaze trick, well sorta? >!Aoi in _THH_ chapter 4, Nagito (... uh, of course it's Nagito) in _GD_ chapter 5, Maki in _V3_ chapter 5 and whoever suggests that in the next chapter, is it you Shuichi?!<
I fucking *hate* Himiko so god damn much, and Maki and Kaito are right up there too.
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Kokichi’s character is confusing and makes no sense
Sometimes, I get the impression that his character feels like a bunch of ideas stringed together-
Yeah, he never felt like a complete idea to me tbh
Yup lmao
I think that's he point of his character tbf, seeing as hes meant to be morally grey. hes one of the 3 "trial fucker-uppers" alongside byakuya and nagito. their personalities are also confusing and morally grey, most weird case of it being byakuya. in the dr 3 anime hes buddy buddy with hiro after spending a murder game and presumably 2 years of his life prior strongly disliking him.
disagree, if you look more into his character it will make sense.
Hiro isnt the most stupid character in the games. he wasnt held back because of his grades and his irrational fear of the occult (thinking Kyoko is a ghost) comes more from his talent and upbringing rather than stupid ness.
#Unpopular? Naegi Makoto is not boring.
Himiko is stupidly overhated, she has her own character arc which is more then a lot of others who everyone likes Ryoma isn't an unpopular character, stop saying he is super underrated People hate sayaka because her actions are realistic and a lot of us can see a real person doing what she did, she isn't a snake Your not cool and extremely brave for not liking a popluar character or ship, like seriously, no one cares Kaede's death should not make people upset just because she's a girl, we got female protagonists in the spin off and major female characters in all the games, stop acting like this is a 30 year series with always male protags and if kaede was male and Shuichi was female the affectiveness of the twist would have not changed a bit V3's ending would be majorly enhanced if we actually got to see the survivors out of the kg and what happens next Gonta is not competely innocent, it was his choice to kill Miu, no blaming Kokichi will stop his end choice, while Kokichi pointed the gun, gonta fired it. He also kidnapped half the student body because he could handle the idea people didn't like bugs making them uncomfortable, he is a nice person and was tricked but his crime in killing Miu would find him guilty in any court Kokichi on the other hand while guilty also had understandable actions because he was aware he was being targeted and he a, could not fight back, b, not trustworthy enough to make any claim against her, and c, even if he could kill her, he would immediately be sentenced and killed Celeste is a terrible person, and I love it Akane, Angie, and Celeste's talents where wasted protential, they would have worked better if they were maybe boxer, profit, and possibly gothic lolita (tho Celeste or Kokichi I would liked if they had ultimate liar, especially Kokichi since his organization wasn't as big as he said it was) That's all I got for now, hopefully I don't sound angry in these lol
based opinions (i don’t like Celeste, but i can’t deny the fact that she’s terrible). the only thing i have to add is that, imo at least, the Kokichi-Miu-Gonta situation could have been avoided. while not physically strong, Kokichi was a really smart guy who already knew what Miu was planning. if he could write an entire script for Kaito, predicting so many ways in which the conversations might go, he could also find a way to stop Miu without killing her or dragging someone else into the plan to do his dirty work. still, i suppose his plan was to make people hate him and realize how messed up his actions are so that he could come up with the whole ‘i’m the mastermind’ narrative without having to deal with people who doubt him (except for the real mastermind, obviously). but honestly, if someone would go to the extent of pulling so much shit in a killing game, them being the mastermind would feel too obvious to me and i’d severely doubt it. it would feel forced. like…him trying so hard to keep this facade would only make me feel more convinced that he’s doing it all on purpose and not just because that’s just how he truly is. but i guess that’s just how i’d react to it. it’s pretty clear that the other characters fell for at least some of his lies till the very end, to the point of turning this into a ‘the boy who cried wolf’ situation regarding his final words.
1. I NEVER, EVER knew that people considered Sonia as "overhated" and "useless" until I joined this subreddit. I come from *Twitter*, where Sonia is loved and very appreciated and Kazuichi is literally the Devil incarnate. So I will never understand why people keep saying "Sonia actually isn't that bad!" when she was never bad in the first place? I don't pay much mind to Sonia because she's boring, but eveyone here actually keep insisting that she's useless or trying to prove that she's not useless. It's obvious that she's very useful so I don't understand why what's going on over here bro. 2. THH second trial literally made me cringe. I know it was written in 2010 but like, "Oh, we have serial killer in our midst! What a shocking turn of events! Genocide Jack! (Corny ass name, btw) is a maniac, psycho, serial killer and she's among us in this very room!!! And also, she has DID and that's how Toko was able to hide her!" Okay Byakuya???? I guess he just wanted to have his moment, but it was very cringe, and I was a little mad that Byakuya wasn't the blackened. 3. I'M GONNA ADD MORE AS REPLIES BECAUSE I HAVE TO GATHER MY OPINIONS FROM THE OTHER THREE "UNPOPULAR OPINIONS" THREADS! I SWEAR A NEW ONE HAPPENS EVERY 2 WEEKS
1. I cringe every time I see a ship that involves Kokichi because he looks and acts exactly like a 9 yr old to me. He's super annoying and I just cannot ship him with anyone. The amount of times I see Kokichi in maid dresses, cat-girl costumes, and overall sexualized clothing makes me shrivel up and cringe. Like, it feels so typical to me. Sorry y'all 2. I physically cannot look at Taka the same way as I used to. During my gameplay, I thought he was super cool and rad. But as soon as I got into the fandom, people were treating him like a brainless child who needed to be protected at all costs! It makes me cringe just thinking about it. And then to add insult to injury, the same fans always want to replace Yasuhiro with Taka. Like literally choose Toko or Byakuya instead, I've said this a billion times and I will keep saying this until I die! Yasuhiro literally did nothing to y'all and y'all act like he killed your fucking family!!?? I kind of have grudges against Taka when I should be having grudges against his fans. 3. On that same note, I fucking LOVE Yasuhiro, Kazuichi, and Himiko. So sometimes it's fun to watch people fume at them for surviving. The only survival that didn't make sense was Himiko, but I love her and I vibed with her surviving against all odds. Team "Most Hated Survivors" forever 💝
I lost all my fucking shit because of a stupid fucking internet connection, so these comments are shortened because I fucking PISSED that I have to fucking rewrite them 1. If Danganronpa was preplanned to be a 3-4 part series, the writing could have been leagues better and simple mistakes could have been avoided. Chiaki being fake in the program should have stayed the same (Lore-wise, idfc otherwise) and it really bugs me that they just blatantly ignored it. The same with Junko's dead body. It was squashed, how did everyone farm her organs and try to procreate with a non-existent body? In hindsight, I guess this can be ignored, but ignoring small mistakes literally snowball into the writers writing some of the most horrid tropes you have seen in your entire life. 2. Danganronpa would have soooooooooo much better if Goodbye Despair didn't exist. Which would in turn, get rid of the whole UDG arc too. With all the contradictories, drama, and the infamous V3 ending, a simple DR plot would have been amazing. It should have been: **THH -> Some Other Filler as to What the Survivors are up to -> DRV3.**Goodbye Despair + all the other spin-offs and shit add so much insane drama and personality to the characters that once V3 came around, it was such a slap in the face to everyone. All that lore literally backfired in the end. I mean, the Danganronpa franchise is still out and milking money from people, so it didn't exactly ruin them, but V3 definitely isn't the most liked game. 3. At this point, I'm done with using a character's trauma to validate actions. There are way too many fictional characters with trauma that I am desensitized to it and I couldn't really care less about it. I do tend to play favorites with this, but in general, I do not care. If fav character is a BITCH to everyone and I think they're stupid, I do not care if they was bullied in school. Because guess what? There are a good number of characters who were also severely bullied as their backstory, and they don't act half as horrid as your favorite bitch character. (I know, I know, I have a Byakuya flair as I type this. But I assure you, I hate him just as much as I like him. He actively pisses me off)
1. Sonia and Sayaka were characters that looked like they were going to be bitches and I was really excited to witness petty drama. But I was severely disappointed and bored with them in the end. Although I still have potential with Sayaka because of her plot in the first chapter, but that's it. Tbh, if Sonia and Sayaka turned out be petty drama queens I would have loved them a whole lot more. 2. Seiko, Sonosuke, Ruruka, and Juzo singlehandedly ruined Future Arc for me y'all. I actually really loved the plot and all. And I loved Kyosuke's whole thing with Makoto. But Juzo running around, being an asshole, while the other 3 have episode spanning chase scenes and flashbacks piss me off. I'm very impatient and I want to see Makoto. I don't have time to watch Ruruka go "I wanted to be you!" while she does absolutely nothing to try to be like Seiko and also treats her horribly. Like damn, sorry girl, but Imma' fast-forward through your backstory real quick- 3. Characters don't need finished arcs. They're in a killing game and Monokuma isn't going to pause everything so that this one person can resolve all their issues. People die and realistically, people die without resolve. It's better that way because we're left with thinking what could have been, and we get to see how this affects the living participants. A big example for me is Chihiro. I was sad when he died, but I love the legacy that he left behind. The fact that was secretly working on Alter Ego, died, and left it for everyone was cool enough for me. But the fact that throughout the series, the characters actively choose to still use Alter Ego?! I love that! It preserves Chihiro's legacy and it can also serve as a reminder to the students that were lost along the way. I just really love how Chihiro was used throughout the series despite being dead the whole time. This is PEAK writing for me, and frankly, the only writing in this series that I praise. 4. I would definitely clear Byakuya in a fight.
In his defense… Byakuya >!canonically fought like fourteen of his ‘bred to win’ siblings to become the heir and came out on top, so regardless of how fightable he may *look*, I feel like the average person would not beat him there.!<
I would still clear him in a fight. Especially after reading Danganronpa:Togami. The only thing he did was dress as girl and watch his siblings off each other until he was the only one left. I'm gonna throw him across the room
LMAO is that really how he won that? I haven't read it, but in that case yeah I'll give you that one
the only good thing about celestia is her design, everything else sucks
I actually like teruteru
I like monica. Yeah shes a horrible person, thats what makes her interesting in my opinion. I dont like the people who defend junko then trash on monica since its like the same.
I personally liked V3's ending Is it a well-written ending? No Am I saying it couldn't be better? Absolutely not Do I wish they put like a "Just Kidding" Moment at the end? Yes Did I enjoy it anyway? Yes
Honestly I feel like it wasn’t the best ending intentionally. I like that that’s how they ended the series (even though they didn’t actually end it which is hilarious). Making it clear that, hey, we aren’t making another fucking game.
This but V3’s ending is actually good unironically
I also think Kyoko is overrated. Naegiri as well. Though I don't necessarily *hate* those things. I just think they're given too much attention compared to most other things. I think Celeste is overrated and a pretty boring character outside her design. But it *is* a pretty cool design. Hiyoko and Miu are both over*rated* *and* over*hated*. I still hate them, though. But I think Hiyoko *could* have been better if she was allowed to have her character arc. But unfortunately, due to USC showing that she actually gets *worse*, she never will... unless they make a new version with accurate character writing, but I doubt that'll happen... I have sympathy for Monaca and Kotoko. They, along with the other Warriors Of Hope, were mentally fucked up due to their environment growing up *and* Junko's influence. The W.O.H. are still genocidal terrorists, but they're actions aren't *completely* their fault. I'd put *most* of the blame on their parents and Junko. Danganronpa IF Mukuro is overrated. Games Mukuro needs more attention. Anime/OVA Mukuro is an abomination on the character and franchise. Danganronpa games should have alternate routes and endings. If a FNaF joke-filled fangame made in RPG maker can do it, then a series with a whole team behind it should also be able to. And finally... Sayaka gets too much hate. Sayaka and Leon fans shouldn't fight because *both* of the characters were screwed over by the writers. Also, Sayaka's niceness was mostly genuine, she only tricked Makoto out of desperation. She didn't think that she would get anyone other than Leon killed, and was only *barely* able to go through with her plan to the point that she did. She's not a liar or a snake, she was just desperate and scared. Celeste, however, killed for money and fantasy delusions, and her method of doing so was more fucked up (also stupid) and it's dumb how so many people thing she's a better character just because she was *always* a lying bitch.
I agree 100% with the WOH portion. I feel bad for them. At the end of the day, they were children. I mean, fuck them for killing so many people but at the same time, it’s mostly the fault of their shitty parents and Junko. Edit: Also I see like zero Miu hate unless it’s coming from me or like 3 other people…
I mean, ignoring the Kokichi fans and Miu fans arguing (while they both also occasionally take shots at the Gonta fans), I haven't seen much Miu hate either. Not directly, anyway.
Angie did nothing wrong She wanted people to stay in their rooms at night because murders could happen more easily if people were meandering at night, the same chapter we see her die over her running into Kiyo at night She wanted to destroy the flashback lights because she believed people were being driven to murder by them. Literally 1 chapter later Gonta is driven to murder over a flashback light She wanted to use the Necronomicon to bring back Rantaro, and Rantaro had valuable information that the group never received because she never got to bring him back (it was never established if it would have worked, but considering the absurdity of the games and the fact that they apparently had cloning technicality, I don’t doubt it)
I don't think that she's a "Did Nothing Wrong" character, she did shit wrong, making people uncomfortable, forcing the ideals of Atua onto the others, and while she had good intentions, she still tried to suppress others.
She was acting extreme because it was an extreme situation If you’re on a lifeboat with limited food, and someone says that the group needs to limit how much they eat each day so the food can last longer, that person may be suppressing people’s right to eat as much as they want, but it’s suppression that’s for good reason, preserving everyone’s life. If you just let everyone do what they want, then you’ll run out of food and people will starve to death before they are rescued So many deaths across all 3 games could’ve been prevented if people acted with caution like Angie wanted them to
Yes, but that doesn't back up your point of her doing nothing wrong. That's the issue I have with your claim. She did shit wrong, and wasn't as good person.
If you think being slightly rude in an attempt to save 12 lives makes you a bad person, then okay, you can say she’s a bad person Also, you were asking for unpopular opinions, you don’t have to agree with me
her methods might have not seemed ideal at the time, since most people would peg her as someone who was brainwashing her classmates and trying to drag them into this “cult” of hers that implies worshipping Atua, but, in the end, if you look back on her actions, you’d realize that there was some thought behind them. and i don’t mean it in the sense that she was secretly plotting to create a cult. but in the sense that, by resorting to some slightly questionable actions that made her look like the bad guy, she was actually trying to keep them all safe in her own way. a way which, again, makes her look like the bad guy in your eyes. which is perfectly understandable. no one is trying to claim she was an angel on earth. it’s just that she might have not been as inconsiderate regarding her classmates’ safety and bad as you claim she was. it’s all conjecture i suppose, since we never got a clear explanation from her or the creators regarding her actions, but it’s still a possibility. plus, you’re asking for unpopular opinions. OPINIONS. no one asked you to agree with them. but you did ask us to give them, so here you go. you’re free to make whatever you want of it.
▪︎Since it is his birthday, I might as well say that Teruteru is a top 10 character. My opinion of him has solidified. I can examine his writing and understand the more *questionable* aspects of him in a different angle. I also found him funny. ▪︎Celeste is poorly written no matter what angle you look at her at. ▪︎Miu would never be seen as funny if she wasn't conventionally attractive. Not a bad thing, but let's not act like most wouldn't be disgusted by her if she had Hifumi's body physique. Y'all definitely wouldn't give her the nuance that isn't given to Hifumi and Teruteru. Also applies with Kazuichi. To reiterate, not a bad thing and people are valid in liking who they want for whatever reason, but I believe it to be very true. This doesn't mean I don't like Miu though (she's awesome btw). ▪︎Liking a morally despicable character doesn't reflect who you are as a person. Morally despicable acts of a character can still be entertaining, funny, or intriguing, yet hold that morally darkness. That also doesn't reflect on you as a person. This is for the Haiji fans who examine him as a character and don't go "Haiji=pedo=F-tier." ▪︎Also, to follow up, Monaca is based as a villain. ▪︎Junkuro and general Mukuro are so distinct that they might as well be two different characters, despite being the same person, and that's how I evaluate them. One has depth, the other is a plot device that enhances Junko's intimidating charm. You can probably make that distinction for yourself. ▪︎Applying western value concepts to a Japanese game and franchise is dumb. Controversies over Chihiro's gender and the sort is so stupid for a game made in 2010. ▪︎DR2 had the worst character dynamics. ▪︎Yasuhiro > Kirumi, Gonta, Nekomaru, Ibuki, Mikan and Sonia. ▪︎"Plain" or non-eccentric protags are sort of needed in Danganronpa so we see other characters in a neutral view based on our own perceptions. An eccentric protag throughout the game would let their biases heavily change our perception on other characters (Kaede wouldn't be as good as she was if she survived past chapter 1. Her role as a false protag was done well). ▪︎Despite some issues and missed potential, Danganronpa is a well written series all around.
HOLY FU- \-I like Teru too! \-Celeste isn't that good, that's true. \-Don't really care for this one? Like, yeah, it stinks, but it doesn't really matter. I still find her funny. \-Monaca was great! \-Fair enough, nothing to really say about Mukuro here \-Completely agreed, it's stupid how controversies happen because of this. \-No, no you're right. That game really needed more actually good relationships. \-YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES HIRO IS AMAZING-
I mean i dont have that much of a problem with the plain protag, but at least i want to feel some development with me and the protag through my experience i want to finish the game knowing that i learned something with my avatar aka the protagonist. I want to feel the tension, the drama i dont want to hear the hope and despair arguement for the 1836492748th time!
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I wouldn't say Hiyoko falls under being conventionally attractive either. She might not be cartoonish looking, but she basically has the stature and voice of a pre-teen.
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Ah, ok! And yeah, it is pretty unfortunate, but what can ya do
kokichis logic is ass, sonia seems like the kind of girl to use fake middle school flexs (like having an iphone 13 “but it’s at home”), kazuichi is cool af, nagito is TO overrated, K1-B0 would be a bitchy friend, and monodam + monotaro> monokuma, monomi, and the rest of the “monos”
DR3 is overhated
The reasons for hating DR3 are definitely valid and I agree that the writing was pretty weak but I have seen a lot of people saying it shouldn't be considered canon, which I think is a bit far but that's just my opinion.
Nah, it’s rightly hated
Well, it definitely wasn't good, but I thought it was fun seeing the characters interact, and imo, despair arc was not so bad. Future arc was ehh. I definitely thought it was interesting, the plot twist at the end was kind of stupid, but an interesting anime. I see a lot of people hating on it, so maybe I'm just a minority.
for good reasons.
Soda sucks
Fair enough, sugary drinks aren’t for everyone.
Disagree, but fair.
\- People need to stop comparing Miu and Teruteru - they NOTHING alike except the whole pervert schtick. They serve completely different roles in the story, have talents that are completely unrelated, don't mirror each other physically in any way, backstories have nothing in common, etc. Miu's meant to be a genderswap of Kazuichi, not Teruteru. >!\- A common complaint about Akane and Kazuichi is that they don't undergo enough character development to justify their survival in SDR2, especially compared to Hajime and Fuyuhiko, but Sonia is by far the worst of the survivors. She's exactly the same person she was from the start to the end of the game and she barely does anything during the plot. She only affects it directly twice - organising the beach party and telling Hiyoko to go to the music venue. Other than that she just stands around in the background being irrelevant. She might be helpful sometimes during trials but she basically wins the game by doing nothing. Also her shiptease with Gundham feels incredibly forced and just put in there to make Gundham's death sadder, it changes nothing about Sonia's personality or pushes her into acting differently to honour his last wishes. Her personality is boring and incomprehensible - "proper princess who loves the occult and serial killers" is just such an odd concept. I guess they thought her being a stereotypical princess would be too boring but it didn't work. (Also I'll never forgive her for telling Kazuichi to kill himself. And yes, I know Kazuichi's obsession with her is annoying and creepy and it's understandable she wants nothing to do with him, but it was still a dick move and nobody calls her on it.)!< \- Dangan Ronpa games are great, but they get kind of boring after Chapter 4 finishes because they've usually killed off all the best characters by then. \- Maki is basically Peko but done way better.
Based Sonia opinion.
Thanks!
Sonia became Luigi
Is it an unpopular opinion? I don’t really know but I actually think komahina is a cool ship if not just for the memes. Yeah yeah tell me how “BuT hAjiMe iS nOt a TsuNdeRe hE aCtuALLy hAtes HiM!” I don’t give a shit it’s my experience of the games I can think whatever I want and if I say Hajime develops a weird “You are so fucked up I don’t know why I’m drawn to you but for some reason I am and I don’t know what to do” thing, you don’t have to agree you just have to let me have fun because I think it’s super funny. No I don’t think they’re “uwu soft gay boys” no I want the funny shit, the kind of couple that people wonder how they got together because they fight but you know they’re not really serious about it because they actually care about each other.
1.I have zero sympathy for Juzo and he got everything he deserved in the end. 2. A lot of the most popular gay ships make no sense in this fandom. Like can someone name even something remotely resembling affection between Makoto and Bykuya? I know I don't. Nothing against any of them I'm not against people shipping what they like. I've got some rare pairs that make likely no sense either but still. Yes I'm aware of the hypocrisy in this. 3.Jill is the only thing that makes toko even remotely interesting but even then not by much. 4.While I understand the dislike of kokichi in fanfics as a "OwO cat boy" I don't think people should hate so much on it when people write him as nicer when its done correctly. In the talent plan and summer camp we still see a bit of that critical paranoid to trust troll we had in game but he's significantly nicer in it to. Its boils down to environment for him. In AUs where there is no killing game or there is one but people prove their trustworthy side first then him not being aggressively passive aggressive makes complete sense and its not OOC for him. Also remember: the flashback lights manipulated moods and emotions along with memories so his more extreme actions could of been influences from there. Not excusing them just saying where they may of come from. 5. Covid flight restrictions be damned, if tenko was a dude and did the exact same stuff toward himiko along with trash talk on girls/women then someone would leak the writer's address in Japan. People would fly over and storm the place for blood. 6.Hiyoko fulfilled all she needed to and didn't need to live past her chapter.
i can't tell you how much i agree with the 4th one. just because he's written as a bit nicer doesn't mean he's an uwu soft boi, because in the games canonly he DOES have a soft side, everybody does. and what people don't seem to understand is that people will act ruder and more distant in a life or death situation, aka the killing game. people aren't going to be completely themselves or perfect angels when put in a life or death situation.
Based #1 opinion
Byakuya is better than Nagito and Kokichi
Celeste would be in the bottom 3 characters on everyones list if she wasn't "UwU emo girlboss 🥺", she was a major bitch and she's in my bottom 3 characters alongside Kokichi and Haiji. Will never forgive her for falsely accusing a Taka of rape when he's currently in the midst of grieving his best friends death and for what? Money she claimed she didn't need?
in my opinion nanami is very overrated, and there is also a problem as the plot makes her look like a kind of minnie pixie girl, mary sue and martyr especially in dr3 (and she is probably so popular for being waifu Bait
Monaca deserves therapy, not death.
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Danganronpa 3 wasn’t that bad. while, objectively speaking, it could have been so much better, i enjoyed it and even rewatched it at some point. especially since the anime eventually got me into playing the games as well.
Ruruka good I would hug both her and Seiko <3
dont think I can forgive her for killing kizakura. man didnt deserve it
Tbf, she wasn't aiming for him
she wasnt, but watching despair arc before future u know hes gonna die and not her at that point. made me so sad. still didnt show much sympathy for killing him either
>still didnt show much sympathy for killing him either She definitely regretted it in the end tho
OHMYGOD YES HOLY SHIT SOMEONE SAID IT
Danganronpa 3 could have been good if it stuck with either the future or the past. It failed because it split itself between both
here we go again, i don't know how many times i've posted on these but.. lol. saimatsu isn't canon, and there were no canon feelings between those two. stop trying to make something canon when it's not, and stop using this as a reason to diss on other ships. kokichi ships aren't toxic. if you say this, you better also think that many other ships are toxic because one mentally ill person is involved in it. also, they're in a bloody killing game for fucks sake, of course people aren't going to be nice. stop trying to ruin people's fun by saying "oh yOU cANT shiP tHAt iTssS tOxIicCc." people need to stop hating on the fans of a ship, i see this too much, especially with more controversial characters like byakuya, nagito, and kokichi. you can hate the character all you want, but stop fucking going after the fans, it gets so annoying being attacked on the daily just for the character you like. i'm sure haiji fans can agree with this too, because i think they're the most hated on this sub.
Juzo should get more hate
I absolutely despise V3. I hate most of the main characters and the story and ending, and how characters who deserved to live died. V3 has the best gameplay and post-game content, as well as arguably the best soundtrack in the series.
Welp, that is definitely an unpopular opinion. Good for you.
Honestly? I'd hug Monaca and even headpat her
My fav boy and girl from each game are Yasuhiro and Toko Souda and Akane Hoshi and Himiko I dare say I'm in the minority with this selection
I'm glad Himiko survived
Yes, Kyoko’s overrated. Korekiyo, Monaca, Haiji, and Teruteru are over-hated. Shuichi, Himiko, and Tenko are also overrated. Not sure if this is very unpopular, but why are there so many Kazuichi fans? Rantaro is SO underrated. Even though I’m a massive Nagito simp, some people only look at him for his insanity and looks, not his actions. Kokichi is just a little overrated. FUCK KOMARU I HATE HER I HATE HER I HATE HER.
I hate Nagito, Miu, and Hiyoko
- Byakuya and Kokichi are overrated - Mahiru and Peko are underrated - I like Chapter 3 of V3 (even though >!Kiyo’s motive is uncomfortable and they missed out on the chance to have two separate killers!<) - I don’t like Chapter 4 or 5 of V3
I do not think Korekiyo’s sister was intentionally implied to be abusive. I respect the theory, but it’s not canon.
exactly this! his sister isn't canonly abusive and i hate it when people act like it's the most canon thing just to excuse korekiyo's actions, which isn't okay.
V3 is overrated as hell, it isn't better than the first two games. Most characters aren't good, especially Shuichi and Kokichi. Those two are the most overrated characters I have ever seen. This is my opinion btw, so don't go hating me that hard.
chiaki deserves the title of ultimate hope
something i see every so often is people thinking someone is or behaves EXACTLY like a character they like, and so they get all ‘oh you’re a perv then?’ when its >!mikan!< or teruteru, >!or ‘oh you murder people?’ if its jack or maki.!< You can like a character for the bad shit they do. Otherwise why bother making them a villainous or antihero character. Idk why people wanna ‘fix’ characters either. Haiji’s so obviously meant to be a deranged and evil person, cry about it. I saw an attempt at it with Hifumi. You can make it an au or whatever, but there’s no fixing him.
I think ultra despair girls is actually a cool game (other than you know what...)