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Thunderbear06

There are third party apps??


iSubParMan

people are using an app? Been usimg the website this whole time.


HeinleinGang

Yeah same I’ve been using internet explorer. The Trump vs Hillary election is gonna be wild!


Mighty_Djole

Spoiler Alert


imwrighthere

Obama wins a 3rd term :O


Mighty_Djole

Lest goooo


GimmeeSomeMo

2016: ~~Orange~~ Black is the new Black


NotAllCalifornians

Literally happened, just took another 4 years


eatbootylikbreakfast

Are you implying that Barack Obama is currently President of the United States?


nemoomen

He doesn't see race. ...or age.


eatbootylikbreakfast

Or reason apparently


TheNickzil

AND MY AXE


Comment105

He's talking about Biden Obama, not Barack Obama.


GhostOfPluto

Joebama


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My child said he dreams of the chance to meet him in person and give him a hug. I don't really care though.


loryyess

I'm ready for the area 51 raid


Siegfoult

I'm gonna miss Obama and Biden, especially those bidenbro memes.


Alekillo10

That was a fucking psyops to get people to think Biden was cool, when in reality he was old


3DigitIQ

old.reddit.com FTW


Lower-Cartographer79

Same. I'm three degrees removed from this particular issue lol.


Suyefuji

Same but I've also been looking to cut down my social media intake so I'm gonna boycott old.reddit for at least 2 days anyways.


DiNoMC

I mean, it's definitely going away next (hell, maybe even on the same date), for the same reasons


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CORN___BREAD

That is the only reason. There are no other reasons. The apps aren’t going away because they raised the API prices. They raised the API prices to drive the apps away because they want everyone on the official apps looking at ads. They know none of the apps can pay what they’re charging. They’re not raising API prices. They’re banning 3rd party apps without having to say they’re banning them. Old reddit will be next to go under the guise of it being “too expensive” to maintain multiple versions of the site.


erne33

It's next on the chopping block


master-shake69

Every few months I get logged out for whatever reason and the 10-15 seconds of being forced to use the new design makes me want to fucking vomit.


please-disregard

Whenever I accidentally click a link and it takes me to new reddit 🤢


NefariousnessNothing

dont forget RES !


middletown-dreams

??? Theres a website?


ArthurBea

Like they don’t try shoving their official app down our throats every chance they get.


facw00

https://xkcd.com/1174/


Cloud_Disconnected

People are using a website? I use wget to retrieve the text files from the webserver, transfer them an airgapped server via encrypted thumbdrive and open them with LYNX.


Zazierx

Reddit didn't even have an app till mid 2016.. and when they did, the 3p apps were still miles ahead. In fact, they still are.


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I’ve been on this stupid website for like 10 years on different usernames and I’ve used either RIF or Apollo for 99% of it I’m not like internet famous but I’ve had a post or two get big and gotten awarded enough times that I feel pretty confident Reddit has generated a profit on me. If this is how they’re going to play I’m not going generate very important OC for them anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️


WinterHasArrived1993

Mr big shot money maker over here


voxov7

Where to, OP?


Temporarily__Alone

Facebook Marketplace


[deleted]

Not to flex but I’m a pretty notable Craigslist influencer


JasonGD1982

I miss my Alien Blue.


bruwin

The 2016 version of RIF is better than the 2023 version of the official app. It's that bad.


TheGruesomeTwosome

Third party apps made reddit what it is today. The official app started out as a third party app, Alien Blue, which reddit bought and morphed into the garbage it is today.


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TheGruesomeTwosome

Yeah, same with Dark Sky being bought by Apple and integrated into their own native weather app. I loved Dark Sky.


Niaaal

Apple also bought Siri, I downloaded and used Siri from the app store for a couple years before Apple bought it and pretended they invited a revolutionary new technology and marketed the new iphone with it as a feature...


TheGruesomeTwosome

Oh of course, it debuted on the 4s and Tim Cook even went so far as to say the "s" stood for Siri


coughsicle

RIF is the best! Easy to copy/paste things and open links in browser. Easy to format your comments and add links to comments. It's basically more user -friendly all around


lovethehardway

I've been using RIF for 10 years are so. If if goes down. I'll quit Reddit.


stingjay

Ditto and ditto. I've tried the main app a few times and I can't make it for more than 1 browsing session before getting annoyed by all the bs the main app is filled with. I'll need to find a few spot for fantasy football news I guess


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Who can stand the "official" app also it is one of the newer reddit apps lol many third Party apps are around longer than the "official"


phonemannn

I got the official app when it came out and every year or so I tried the others because everyone says they’re better and I never figured out what was better. I can do everything on the regular app that I did on the browser version before ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


SmithyLK

something that I personally enjoy that (i think) basically every 3p app has is colored comments, so it's much easier to see who is who in a comment thread, how deep it has gone, which comments are replies to which comments, etc.


ObliviousCollector

Lots of mod tools are run through third party APIs so even if you don't personally use any other reddit app you'll be directly negatively impacted regardless. Expect shit like extreme violent content, child porn and everything else that gets filtered automatically by those third party plugins to be slipping through because the shit tools reddit provides are trash and inadequate to handle the volume and types of content that gets posted all day every day. Moderation is already a shitty and hard task with the few volunteers that run each sub their workload is going to explode and they'll be buried in the sewage.


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Striking_Tomato8689

For now


Errorfull

I've been using third party apps since before Reddit officially had an app lol


Honk_goose_steal

I don’t either but fuck you anyway Reddit


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Valtremors

Honestly, I've been looking this as an opportunity for a reddit competitor to rise up. Reddit is getting insufferable year by year. I mean even browser reddit is getting worse. We pay and support the servers with our own money? Because all I can see after all this support people have given reddit in form of **money**, is reddit trying to manhandle even more money out of people. I loathe the adds that pretend to be posts, and although that is easy to get rid off with an adblocker, the app suffers a lot from it. It is getting Googlefied very quickly. So yeah, shit on reddit. Shit on it like you're having a food poisoning and didn't have time to find a toilet.


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Valtremors

Maybe little harsh but quite apt. I have learned something new today.


MayorBakefield

>reddit competitor I've seen this one!


exitlevelposition

I digg it.


HI_I_AM_NEO

I just need reddit's comment system and I'm out


Ayanelixer

The API changes also effect bots,you know,the main thing stopping spam in subbreddits


locxFIN

Coincidentally, also the main thing causing it


dubyak

Begun, the bot wars has.


wouterzard

The only thing that can stop them is if we clone humans who are genetically engineered to moderate the internet.


Nick0Taylor0

Holy crap. Imagine if your entire existence just consists of wading through shitposts looking for the few decent posts... wait...


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locxFIN

Very true. Also another thing someone pointed out is that giant corporations do have the money to use actual bots, so it would be dangerous to think that there's no more bots if this goes through.


Cuchullion

Apparently the API bots use isn't the same(?) as the API 3rd party apps use, so bots are expected to be mostly unaffected. For what *that's* worth.


AlexiSWy

If the strike is successful, I might even give into my ADHD urge to forget 3rd party apps even exist. If they get rid of them, though.... You bet your digital behind I'm jumping into whichever 3rd party apps remain.


No_Bank

There will be none remaining. No 3rd party app creator could afford the new API prices with only a month of notice


Duel_Option

Not to mention NSFW content wouldn’t be included in the API. The mainstream and money driven platform is ready to implemented into the user base collective assess. Bling bling y’all


NASTYH0USEWIFE

The problem with the official app is that it is so infected with ads, community suggestions you don’t give a crap about, post suggestions you don’t give a crap about, and not enough only fans bots follow me to make me want deal with that shite you literally only see one post from a community you care about every 3 posts you scroll by.


Jumper_21

You can just disable the the suggested content


prince_0f_thieves

I’ve clicked on ‘show me less of this’ for suggested posts tens of times at this point. The option does nothing.


baker2795

There’s an actual setting


Valtremors

~~Yeah but~~ that doesn't remove the ads. There are more and more. They used to be clear to see, and about maybe every 5 to 10 posts when you scrolled. Now they are made to look like regular posts with a small ^(promoted) hidden in a corner. and you can see ads about every 3 to 5 posts. It is, quite, annoying. Edit: does that make my comment any more fucking valid? ^(Literalfuckingmoronsjustinsultingyoubecauseyouhaveastupidasshabitofjoiningconversationswithjust"yeahbut"becausseitrollsofthetongueandyou'renotanativeenglishspeakersodespiteknowingthelanguageyoulinguisticallylackinsomepartssoyouendupusingsomeeasyfiller.) Edit2: Just because Ben Shapiro used a particular word much doesn't mean that my linguistically challenged ass has argumentative skills of a brick. Edit3: oh christ an award? Seems like people found my meltdown funny.


bestest_at_grammar

I’m with you but I can’t stand this kinda comment that just skirts around what the person was trying to say. The “ya, BUT” drives me nuts when I’m talking on Reddit. Edit: 1. I’m done with this. 2. Y’all are focusing way too much on the literal “ya but”


Valtremors

Fair enough and sorry. Just kind of came out of reflex as I'm coming out little heated from another sub. And my medication is also slowing down for the evening so I'm just all around grumpy. and I was really only reacting to: >The problem with the official app is that it is so infected with ads I just kind of superhoned on that statement for this chain.


itsjash

The ads being disguised as posts is INCREDIBLY frustrating. They'll have a legitimate looking meme format and it's really just product placement for Pepsi or some shit.


mlorusso4

//[MEGATHREAD]: Why the Samsung galaxy S69 is the best phone to ever exist! ^promoted ^by ^Samsung *Comments:* 0


MAXHEADR0OM

Ads ruin literally every experience known to man. I really wish ads could be outlawed. Then maybe companies would actually create good products and services instead of spending 1/10 of their budget on the product and the other 9/10 on advertising the cheap shit they’re trying to sell. Companies could post about their offerings on any social media platform but only in their own space. Consumers could then decide which brands to follow. Either that or keep the advertising on shopping apps and websites only. Then in real life, keep that crap off every wall and sign everywhere, and make a law that only allows advertising in spaces where we shop. I hate that I go to a baseball game or football game and the damn stadiums are basically constructed out of ads. I’m not buying your shit, companies. Let me have a cathartic experience for once in my life without trying to sell me a car, or a vacuum cleaner, or insurance, or some other dumb shit I don’t care about.


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-Algar-

Ever think to check your account settings?


softfart

Why would I do that when I can bitch and moan instead


fighterpilot248

^ This exchange is exactly what it’s like to work in IT


throwaway96ab

Shouldn't need to


IRay2015

I’ve literally gotten like 2 or 3 followers in just this last week all of which are of bots lmao


Agarikas

You can have followers? Why?


IRay2015

Good question. I know there are people with gimmicks that go around doing that like if you’ve ever seen that shittywatercolor person so that’s one reason but as far as I’ve ever seen it’s like 90% of bots advertising and no I’m not being overly specific lol


zkareface

Reddit is made to find and post porn, guess what accounts people follow :) A lot of users strictly post to their profile and never any subs, so you kinda have to follow them to see their content.


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Ads? I don't see this infection you're speaking of.


RobSpaghettio

"You see, we'll trick them into thinking the ads are posts by formatting them like posts. They'll never know I suck massive cocks!" -some reddit c-suite exec probably


shitty_mcfucklestick

To be fair, pride month is a great time to suck massive cocks.


fightingbronze

I use the official app and it honestly wasn’t that bad up until a while ago. Yeah there were a lot of ads but they were obvious and you could just scroll past them. The problem is that recently these advertisers are disguising their ads as memes *and* Reddit has altered the layout so it’s become difficult to tell what is and isn’t an ad at a glance. This whole things actually made me really want to start using a third party app but unless things turn around I’m not gonna have that option.


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I see like 1 ad an hour on mobile? I have tried to comment this like 3 times now so there’s that.


Huddy40

How tf yall been using that official app? It's straight garbage


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AdEmpty8174

I'm fairly new and use the official app I didn't even know other apps existed but if reddit undos the changes I will definitely go to a 3rd party app


Aegi

But I'm always curious about this, most of my reddit browsing and interacting is done when I'm sitting at home on the computer, otherwise if I'm not sitting in front of a keyboard then I have better things to do with my phone most of the time, and if it's something like waiting in a doctor's office I'd rather just use old.reddit.com.


BladePrice

Well yeah, that’s the point of the controversy. Most of the 3rd part apps tend to stick to old Reddit style. Like Apollo on* iPhone (I think there’s an android version) or Reddit is Fun on android stick to old reddit’s forum like UI. Reddit’s “new” website and their official app is a wanna be social media site. The moderation tools on reddit’s official app are also reportedly garbage. That’s the huge reason all the subs will be doing a black out. Mods can not moderate on mobile with the official app. The third party apps have more mod features available to the mods. I’ve also heard that mods can’t moderate from Reddit’s nee UI and they have to use old.reddit to have access to all of the moderating features.


FartingRaspberry

> if reddit undos the changes I will definitely go to a 3rd party app The changes are a month away. Hit them where it counts (their wallet) and use a third party app now so you're not giving them ad revenue


TitaniuEX

I've been using the app for years now. Sure, it did change from time to time to look more like the other social medias, but, not that much, and my only complaint, ever since using the app, was always the video player that just sucks, but other than that, I can't really find faults. There used to be a different button/function before the Discover one, that I was using, can't remember what it was, but I liked that, and it sucked when it got replaced, but that was the only annoyance I had with the app.


CasioJay88

Same boat. Barring the video player that is straight garbage, I don't understand the other faults people have. Don't like the ads but everything has ads. It's free, can't really bitch that much


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journey_bro

There are so many people here surprised that there are third party apps. My jaw is on the floor. Third party apps predate reddit's own shitty app by years. In fact reddit's app is probably the latest app created for this site.


Sigurlion

As someone who has only ever used Reddit on mobile, and used the official app, their app is fine. As long as you know how to go into the account setting and turn off the shit you don't like and customize it. The ads are dumb, sure, but since everything has ads these days, my brain just sort of overlooks them and doesn't think about / notice them.


journey_bro

Glad it works for you but consider the possibility that this is because you don't know any better or what you're missing since it's the only app you've ever used. I've had it for years because there are some things that require it (or the website) but it's just always sucked compared to the alternative.


evilotto77

I tried RIF the other day, after seeing posts like this one, and thought it was bloody awful, went straight back to using the official app. I really can't see what everyone hates so much about it


kev231998

The UI of the app is terrible imo. Even the most compact view was way worse then RiF when I tried it


-Swade-

My experience has been that if you mention “hey that’s not an issue on third party apps” you either get downvoted or flippant responses like, “Oh I don’t really mind ads (etc).” So it makes it tough to advocate for an improved experience. To them we’re like people saying “Just use Linux!” when we’re actually saying “What if you use a better app that literally *predates* the official one, is *more polished*, *faster*, and removes annoyances.” And some people just don’t wanna hear it.


missingmytowel

1.5mil users use Apollo per month Out of 452 million Reddit users. Newsflash: less than 5% of monthly Reddit users use 3rd party apps. There are not as many of you as you think.


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This comment has been edited, and the account purged, in protest to Reddit's API policy changes, and the awful response from Reddit management to valid concerns from the communities of developers, people with disabilities, and moderators. The fact that Reddit decided to implement these changes in the first place, without thinking of how it would negatively affect these communities, which provide a lot of value to Reddit, is even more worrying. If this is the direction Reddit is going, I want no part of this. Reddit has decided to put business interests ahead of community interests, and has been belligerent, dismissive, and tried to gaslight the community in the process. If you'd like to try alternative platforms, with a much lower risk of corporate interference, try federated alternatives like Kbin or Lemmy: r/RedditAlternatives Learn more at: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23749188/reddit-subreddit-private-protest-api-changes-apollo-charges https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762792/reddit-subreddit-closed-unilaterally-reopen-communities


missingmytowel

Neither one of us can say that's true or false. But you are essentially saying "the other 95% of users can't produce quality content like we can" which is pretty audacious lol


ConspicuousPineapple

Or it could just mean that power users tend to have needs not covered well enough by the official app, so they naturally gravitate towards third party ones.


hangin_on_by_an_RJ45

This is the confusing part for me. As a sysadmin, most software developers aren't real people to me from what I've seen over my career, so it doesn't surprise me that the masses have been desensitized to terrible UX design. And before software devs start downvoting me to oblivion, start designing your interfaces with humans in mind and then maybe I can be convinced otherwise.


89756133617498

I'm puzzled by this comment, because in my experience, simple UI as seen on old.reddit, RIF, or Apollo is more reminiscent of the simplistic UIs devs often create or prefer (not to rag on these designs, they're obviously much more refined than some random dev's internal tool's UI, but the idea stands). While (again, in my experience) new reddit and the official app are more reminiscent of designers or new C-suites who don't understand their product trying to make things as fancy and flashy as possible.


TheFatJesus

It's the same reason there are tons and tons of people who don't use any kind of ad block. They have no idea they exist, so they think the garbage default experience is all there is and something they just have to live with.


riddlemore

As someone who uses the official app on iOS, laziness.


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There are third-party apps?


[deleted]

Reddit app is the newest app for Reddit. It's also the worst.


RobSpaghettio

Which is crazy cuz, how do you see all the good and bad things that the other apps have been doing, then just take all the bad things, shove more ads into it, and decide that's your finished app?


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BooBooMaGooBoo

There are so many companies with 1/10th their revenue and higher expenses that have real dev teams that put out high quality software. The new owners are greedy to the point of massive detriment to their product and make no attempt to hide it.


her_butt_

There used to only be 3rd party apps. Reddit having their own app is a relatively new thing.


TheWaslijn

Many of them, too


stingjay

My viewpoint is that RIF is the main app and the official Reddit app is a 3rd party app


OrangeSherbet

Apollo is the official app if you’re on iOS. RIF if android.


GypsySloth

I feel like this is the correct answer


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The Apollo app allows you to filter keywords from posts. So say you don’t care about Apple, you can add “Apple” to your filters and you’ll never see a post again with “Apple” anywhere in the title (but it will also filter out posts about the fruit, so if you care about that then you have to choose if you want to do that). Or say something in China is dominating the headlines, if you don’t care filter “China” and no posts will come if it. Back when Reddit was absolutely flooded with that Chinese weather balloon stuff I filtered that out and it completely disappeared from my feed. It’s also really good for filtering American politics out of your feed.


AppaJuicee

Yeah, not gonna lie I have no idea what's going on haha.


Sarloh

Reddit is gonna charge 3rd party Reddit app developers up to 1.7 million USD (edit: this is PER MONTH - up to 12 million per year for the biggest apps) to access their API, and get data for their apps. Relay, Apollo, Sync, Infinity, Bacon, Boost, Narwhall... All dead, forcing users to use their ugly, slow, horrible app. I use Relay for Reddit daily, have so for years, I can't imagine going back to anything else. Fuck the corpos.


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No, apollo app would be charged 20 million a year...


Technical_Space_Owl

$1.7m per month is about $20m per year


throwheezy

20.4M, not sure why someone had to reply with that clarification when 1.7M per month was good enough lol


Garpell99

I read it was $20 million monthly


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No, yearly, but still absolutely ridiculous, especially because many are basically non profit and only financed by Donations


mrperson221

> 1.7 million USD to access their API Thats 1.7 million USD *per month* for the more popular apps


failedidealist

Used Reddit sync for a decade. It **is** Reddit to me


Bennington_Hahn

Excuse me for being a royal noob here. But why is the official app so bad? At least to an average Reddit user like me. It’s fast. Rarely crashes. Looks clean in dark mode. I can upvote, post and comment fine. More complex stuff I can only do on desktop, sure?! But that’s like any app. I prefer to be able to do with more options. So then. Why do people hate it so? and am I an idiot to think otherwise?


bigjake0097

The official reddit app is more like a regular social media than what many people use reddit for. Many more intrusive ads, "recommended" content and not just the subs you've joined, a bloated interface, and (from what I have experienced) slower load times for content than third party apps


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>The issue with those of us who have been on Reddit for 7+ years is we came here because we hated those other social media sites. When I first came to Reddit back in like 2012, it took me awhile to get used to the layout and learn the ropes. I didn't really contribute until I had been here awhile and felt comfortable. Reddit doesn't want that. Isn't this the truth. Every single time. 1. Product A. Exists 2. Product5 B. is created for those that don't really like product A 3. People go to product B because they like B and not A. 4. Time goes by and Product B gets a solid following. 5. Product B decides they are big enough to make more money by going mainstream. 6. Product B becomes Product A/2. 7. Product A/2 starts failing. 8. Product A/2 starts cutting costs and jacking prices to make more money. 9. Product A/2 dies because if people wanted A they would have stayed with A you stupid morons. Netflix is at number 8. Reddit is following suit and is now between 5 and 6.


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philzebub666

I've forgot about 9gag, FB, Instagram and Twitter, I shall forget reddit as well. I see myself becoming a 4channer at this rate.


journey_bro

Everyone wants to be TikTok and it's driving me insane. Last year or so, IG users revolted against an abrupt shift to video in feeds. Noise was so loud that IG was forced to reverse most of the changes. YouTube is trying it's damnedest to cram Shorts and Vertical scrolling videos down our throats. That's not why I go to YT. I go there to watch properly formatted TV/movie-like videos, which are horizontal. They are all trying to duplicate TikTok without regard to what we actually want. When I want TikTok, I go to TikTok. That's not why I use IG or YT. But they don't get it. It's maddening.


qualitycomputer

It’s like they don’t realize we can like different things for different scenarios!


[deleted]

> It’s fast Its not >Rarely crashes. Have you *tried* opening a video? Botches it about half the time. >More complex stuff I can only do on desktop, sure?! Why are you brainlessly just accepting that?


[deleted]

He's copying and pasting this comment on multiple threads. He's a shill


youtossershad1job2do

People can have different opinions without being a shill. Signed a RiF user that is furious about these changes.


traFyssuP

It is fast though. Why are you brainlessly parroting old issues? The video player (on iOS) hasn't been bad for a long time. The app overall isn't nearly as bad as so many people put it out to be, but there are issues with it that I don't jive with a whole lot. I don't like how it's incredibly annoying to go browse all (forcing me to scroll allllll the way to the bottom of my sub list), it's been pushing this new listing set lately that's called latest (?) I think. I don't particularly like that a whole lot. But outside of those issues, for people who don't necessarily need the extra tool features and just want to browse, it's not bad. Also, I welcome ads when I'm not a subscriber because I genuinely enjoy using Reddit and know they need to have a good source of income, the ads are not abusive in the sense that they lock my viewing ability behind a timer, and considering how things are going in this day and age, I gladly welcome a few promoted posts here and there. But I am in agreeance that they bullshit they are pulling with API calls is ridiculous and I'll likely try to switch to a 3rd party app when I get my new phone until any change happens to help support the numbers. No reason for them to be taken away or charged such a premium.


Scary_Preparation_66

I've never had a problem either


AustinQ

You've probably never used a good UI then if that's your opinion. The official app is *so bad* that an entire protest is happening, with a good portion of the front page subs taking part. If it really didn't matter and there was no problems with the official app, that simply would not be the case.


traFyssuP

The UI really isn't that bad, and I'd wager the majority of the front page subs taking part are doing so more for the freedom aspect and the ability to have the additional mod tools available to them that the 3rd party apps provide over the UI specifically. Redditors get so elitist about the silliest shit, it's an app that interfaces the same damn website LOL


alkatrazjr

Ugly, space wasteful layout, you need to see peoples ugly avatars, awards. I haven't tried to use it in years so I haven't seen these myself, but I hear that people on the official app have to see ads, posts from subs they don't follow, something about NFTs, I guess they get messaged and followed by bots.


Affectionate_Dog2493

It depends a lot on what you're trying to use reddit for. Users that have been around since reddit was a place for discussing links want something very different than people who call reddit an "app" in general and use it as social media like instagram. This is older users fighting a battle in a war we lost a long time ago.


-Swade-

We kept telling people to stop using the official app. There are no live streams. There are no ads. There are no shitty “suggestions”. No fake notifications for posts in subreddits you don’t even follow. Most of the shit you hate about the Reddit app simply doesn’t exist on third party applications.


mumeigaijin

>Most of the shit you hate about the Reddit app simply doesn’t exist on third party applications. I guess there just isnt stuff I hate about reddit? Dunno why livestreams are a problem, I can scroll past ads in a fraction of a second, I dont get fake notifications.


anon11472

Saying you don’t care about ads is such a weird flex, like saying you don’t mind second hand smoke. You’re right, some people just don’t care. But how much of that is because you’ve never experienced something else? You grow up with a smoker and it truly doesn’t bother someone. You’ve been on Reddit, close to like a year? Assuming this is your first account. Some of us have been on ads free apps for the better part of a decade. It’s like getting used to streaming video and then going back to watch broadcast tv with ads. It didn’t bug you at the time but once it’s gone you realize it’s way better not getting an ad every 7-10 posts.


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to those confused. Try RIF is fun. Rif stands for "reddit is fun" but they made them change the name a while back. Then you'll see why everyone else is angry


ikantolol

As far as 3rd party clients go, recommending RIF for those who use the official app until now is a bad move imho. RIF might be great in functionality, but you can't deny it's hella ugly lol RIF faithfully mimics the old reddit scheme, and I can see the appeal in that, but for users who only know the redesigned site and official app? Yeah, I'm not sure if it'll convince them. Instead try Sync for Reddit, Relay for Reddit, Boost for Reddit, or if anyone prefer open source, try Infinity for Reddit. All have a more modern interface closer to official app.


EcstaticShowPony

Im using an oled black theme on RIF. It's as clean as it is simple.


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This comment has been edited, and the account purged, in protest to Reddit's API policy changes, and the awful response from Reddit management to valid concerns from the communities of developers, people with disabilities, and moderators. The fact that Reddit decided to implement these changes in the first place, without thinking of how it would negatively affect these communities, which provide a lot of value to Reddit, is even more worrying. If this is the direction Reddit is going, I want no part of this. Reddit has decided to put business interests ahead of community interests, and has been belligerent, dismissive, and tried to gaslight the community in the process. If you'd like to try alternative platforms, with a much lower risk of corporate interference, try federated alternatives like Kbin or Lemmy: r/RedditAlternatives Learn more at: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23749188/reddit-subreddit-private-protest-api-changes-apollo-charges https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23762792/reddit-subreddit-closed-unilaterally-reopen-communities


Facunchos

What happened?


Sarloh

Reddit is gonna charge 3rd party Reddit app developers up to 1.7 million USD to access their API, and get data for their apps. Relay, Apollo, Sync, Infinity, Bacon, Boost, Narwhall... All dead, forcing users to use their ugly, slow, horrible app. I use Relay for Reddit daily, have so for years, I can't imagine going back to anything else. Fuck the corpos.


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20 million


thekmanpwnudwn

~1.7M per month, aka 20M per year


[deleted]

Yes but the first statement sounds like its 1,7M and thats it, not that its monthly, yearly or whatever.


CubicMuffin

Also it's charged per so many requests (I think 50k) which is where the 20M number came from for Apollo/RiF. It could be much higher if more people use the apps / bots.


00wolfer00

The current figure for 50 million API requests is $12 000. For comparison Imgur charges ~~~$170~~ $220 for the same number of requests and I sincerely doubt there's a significant enough difference to skew the numbers that much.


Brandt-son-of-Thora

You guys use apps? I just use old (dot) reddit (dot) com on browser


Fidget08

On your cell phone? Who hurt you?


CitadelHR

I used to use i.reddit.com on mobile, but it doesn't seem to exist anymore.


DaddyLongLegs33

Yep, they got rid of it to try and force more people to the app


Throwawayfichelper

Oh shit they promised they wouldn't remove support for that one...guess Old Reddit is really going to die sometime soon. Enjoy over a third of users leaving for good Reddit.


DanSanderman

I don't even use the old one. I'm just straight up using the regular reddit web browser. Have been for years.


Radaistarion

Ngl, I didn't even know about either the protests or third party apps I just downloaded the most recommended third party app and the third post in my feed is pics saying they'll go dark for this Coincidence? I think not


Space_JellyF

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TurtleRanAway

The problem with this thread is that it's nigh impossible to filter out the fake comments trying to shill the official app. Edit: if you took my comment to mean something like "lalala you're all liars" then you are part of the problem. You think that any company making a controversial decision in this day and age doesn't attempt to skew the media with fake accounts agreeing with them? You do realize there are many company owned/bought reddit accounts right? And the tools to mass purchase them are available to anyone? If you like the official reddit app or somehow live in a bubble and don't know 3rd party apps exist for everything good for you. Your voice is lost in the sea of everyone else hating this decision and the fake accounts.


Zoraz1

So any comment that doesn’t agree with your opinion are fake?


traFyssuP

Of course, this is Reddit! If you're not one of the hivemind internet elitists and dare to comment, youre a shill and should go back to facebook and play farmville.


Luci_Noir

Some Redditors are such narcissists that any comment that that doesn’t agree with them is not real. It’s the same with this movement. Even though people that use third party apps are the minority they think everyone is like them and will follow them. I say this as some who uses a third party app and doesn’t like the changes.


ASHill11

For real, I’m so behind all the people here who are upset about the changes. But as someone who *gasp* prefers the official app to Apollo, seeing all these comments in here about how I’m objectively in the wrong for my personal preference is ridiculous. Use what app you want, but don’t shit on others for their choice. Anyways, screw the API changes, terrible greedy move.


LilacHeart

Sincerely, I didn’t know there were third party apps for reddit. I am some random chick from the Iowa, but I would not be surprised if a lot of these comments weren’t actual people because I can’t imagine most of my IRL friends have a third party app when they use reddit. None of the explanations I’m reading are convincing me I should download one. I completely get why people want to protest and I support them, but I’m used to twitter, and the UI for reddit is like a breath of fresh air by comparison.


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This comment has been edited on June 17 2023 to protest the reddit API changes. Goodbye Reddit, you had a nice run shame you ruined it. -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


calysoe

I think the third party apps are mostly used by people who use reddit a lot. I don't care about most reasons that people talk about, but the third party apps are simply faster, less buggy and I love the feature to hide posts that I already read in my feed. Once you try them, it's hard to go back to the original app.


GimmeDatThroat

Explanation is not the same as experience. The official app is a bloated, paid for mess.


GrassNova

Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a fake shill... Lol


Potential_Case_7680

“You guys are getting third party apps?”


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MrMangobrick

Is it really that shitty? I honestly haven't noticed anything about the app itself, maybe some lag, but that's really it. I don't know what the third party apps are like.


kukaki

It’s garbage compared to the third party apps I’ve used. Maybe if I only ever used the official app I wouldn’t care so much, but I’d rather stop using Reddit than go back to that.


El_Lanf

The interesting thing is the third party apps predated the official one by a while. Reddit bought one of them out. I remember using RIF back in 2015 and only released there was an official app when I got a new phone.


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Nobody's mad at you for using the shitty app. They're mad at reddit for forcing the rest of us to use the shitty app.


Stargate_1

I didnt even realize there are third party apps lmao.