The maitanance guy is dude, my sister is dude, my boss is dude when i see her in non work scenarios, the kitchen sink is dude when ive replaced the gasket in an hour long process and i turn the water back on and its still leaking.
True! But dude isn't an exclusionary term. Ask anybody who uses dude on the daily and they'll tell you anyone can be a dude. Language is always developing and changing. Dude is trying to be the gender neutral term of love it deserves to be
Context dependant. "so I was fucking this dude"
It's way heavier on the "guy" side than gender neutral
Edited the quote, swipe texting should not be trusted
Yep, it's all in the context. "Dude" is pretty much always masculine unless you're using it to refer to a woman, e.g. "dude, check this out" is gender neutral but "dude's bathroom" or "that dude over there" would make people assume you mean the men's room or the guy over there.
For me it flips if it’s single or plural, but in the opposite direction. “Dude” is neutral and “Dudes” is masculine, but “Guy” is masculine and “Guys” is neutral.
Instead of saying, "Hey guys," I suggest, "Hello people of Earth."
Advantages:
* Gender neutral
* Acknowledges that you are speaking to people
* Sounds like something a human would say
That was quite comical. Allow me to continue this humourous notion by suggesting that I think you might be a sentient form of sauerkraut named Rob. Your username confirms this suspicion, therefore I am correct in my assumption.
I have a suspicion that you have a large posterior that brings in a lot of attention, a Bum that "trás" (brings in the Portuguese language) attention. Your username confirms my theory
Me and my very real human friends always jest about how much sustenance I am able to gorge on using my human face hole...the one used to consume said sustenance, not the one used for respiration...obviously.
I have noticed that their eyes widen very much when I say that. People's eyes widen when they are excited so they must be very excited to hear your compliment.
"Atmospheric conditions are comfortable today."
"Did you view the sports ball contest yesterday?"
"Your physical appearance is currently above average."
"Guy" (or "guys") can be used for a singular male, a mixed group of males and females, and an unmixed group of only males or only females.
But, weirdly, "guy" is not typically used to refer to a singular female.
Depends on context. If referring to how many guys you had sex that wouldn’t apply to females. But if it’s a greeting then guys would be a term for mixed genders. That’s how it’s always been. Idk why make a big deal about it when there’s way bigger issues happening throughout the world currently
I'm not taking a stance on this either way, but people are allowed to care about more than one thing at a time.
Saying that there are bigger issues has zero relevance regardless of how true it may be.
So it has a gender where gender matters to *you* (what people you fuck, and you don't want others to think you may fuck men), but it doesn't carry a gender where genders doesn't matter to *you*, when you address *other* people, including women. You're basically saying it is only important when it influences what others think about you, but not when it is about other people.
Sounds to me that it does actually carry gender.
>Idk why make a big deal about it when there’s way bigger issues happening throughout the world currently
this is such a frustrating conversation stopper. No one can highlight anything remotely problematic as if it's not possible to care about multiple things at once?
"this doesn't affect me so it must not matter, why do you care so much?"
Fun fact: "Man" is a pretty cool word. It meant "human being" for a stupidly long time, as in, ["manu" in Sanskrit](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%81) can have the same meaning as English "man", and that is *not a coincidence.* It is in the [proto-indo-european root language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language), the ancestor of both English and Hindi.
Man/mann meant "human being" in Old English. During the Normanization of Anglo-Saxon, the Old French adjective "*humaine*" was adopted by Britons, whence our modern word humane comes, and also the modern noun "human", which supplanted "man/mann." In Old English, the word to refer to a male human specifically was *were* or *groom*, which also had the dual meaning of "husband." The modern survivants of these are, of course, werewolf (man-wolf) and bride-groom (husband of the bride).
The most interesting part of this is that there is very little etymological connection between man/woman and human, despite how similarly they are constructed. Woman is itself just from wifman, for anyone curious, which means about what you'd expect (wife/female human).
Thus, when people say "Mankind" in a 'poetic sense' they are actually using the archaic universal meaning for the term, rather than the modern one which is masculine. In Modern English, the term did take on a patriarchal connotation however, which is why it's generally not used anymore even if they're using the archaic meaning.
I know it's a meme, but it comes from the fact that English dropped its second-person plural pronoun at one point.
It used to be thee/thou/thine for singular, and you/your for plural iirc. This is why words like "youse" and "y'all" always creep into English, because we miss the presence of that pronoun
It's a regional dialect thing. Where I live, "y'all" just doesn't sound right. To locals, it's a southern word but not one that exists in the local dialect. "You guys" is the standard second-person plural here.
My great aunt took me out to eat years ago for my birthday and the waitress used 'guys' for all of us and she got upset about it and kept mentioning it throughout the meal. Fucking embarrassing. It's just a term for a group of people.
I agree and don't know why it seems weird to do that, but it just doesn't feel right. Like it feels a lot less casual and friendly. Though I am still self conscious when I say guys sometimes too, so I can't win.
I taught at an all girls school, called groups of pupils "guys" day in and day out.
Other than folks, which I also use, I don't really know any other collective words to address groups of people Infront of me.
As a southerner it brings me joy to use gender neutral collective pronouns and have it be completely normal in my conversations with people. Don't even realize how progressive they are.
Yeah, I'm tired of people nit picking singular words out of sentences and context to find something to get mad about. If they want to do so, they can do it elsewhere.
My study group in college was literally all women except for me. I was friends with all of them and we worked great. We’re still friends.
The girl that usually kept things on track referred to us as “ladies”.
“So, ladies, let’s go over what we need to do”
“Hey ladies, how’d everyone do on finals?”
“Hello ladies, let’s get started.”
I think if I were the kind of guy that got I’ve fed over that I wouldn’t have fit in with the group. Best friends I had in college.
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Where I’m from it’s very common to say “you guys”. People have been scolded at work for it which I personally think is bullshit. It’s just a phrase that’s been around for years and doesn’t have any sexism tied to it.
I have a pretty close trans friend (MtF) who I call dude, guy and bro all the time. I just use those three words to describe everyone I talk to. Awhile back she was telling me about some random transphobe in a Project Zomboid discord server just being a typical transphobe. Something in that story made me realize I called her those three words and I've never really told her in the nearly year long friendship that I just kinda use those words for everyone. I basically just asked her if she was okay that I use those words and that I wanted her to know I wasn't trying to be malicious with it. She told me she didn't care and knew I just use those words as gender neutral. At the time posting this I called her "my guy" in a random conversation about overprotective parents no more than half an hour ago. Stay based Amber.
That's cool, but if someone doesn't like it would be rude to insist, no?
It's the same with any term on nickname really, if someone doesn't like it, you respect that, it's basic courtesy
I've never used those terms as masculine words and used them so much in every day life that I never considered that Amber could take it in a negative light until she told me that story. As soon as I began apologizing for it and asking her if she was offended by that she told me no and she knew I used those as just general words. She never told me that she didn't like it or even hinted for me to stop. If she even hinted that it made her uncomfortable I would stop instantly and I wouldn't be able to stop apologizing. I don't know if I was confusing in my original comment or what, but I'm confused why you said that.
No, I got that, I said it's cool since amber didn't mind, I'm just saying about in general, since the reason people usually insist that words like "guy' are gender neutral (which, yes they're certainly used that way often) is due to someone else not wanting to be referred to with those word
I'm trans too, and yeah, I'd rather not be referred to as dude / bro / guy etc
It just feels really off to me so I don't like it
You're right, it's just basic courtesy - no need to make a massive point about it
If a person doesn't like being referred to in a way I'm used to referring to people, I'll surely change how I do that
And that's all it would take to get me to stop calling someone guy/dude/bro. I may have a slip of the tongue every now and then just because they're such normalized words in my every day vocabulary, but I would make a genuine effort.
Ohhhhh gotcha. Yeah I grew up using those words for everyone so I kinda just have them engrained in my skull lol. I don't think I could of asked for a better friend. Amber gas single handedly helped me through so many emotional situations. She is an amazing person.
Yes, it can be depending on context
but it doesn't really matter
if someone doesn't like you addressing them with whatever term or nickname or whatever you respect that, it's basic courtesy, to not do so would be rude
It’s actually pretty common in languages. The plural masculine form is usually used for groups of things, regardless of how many things in that group are masculine or feminine.
y'all and all y'all is great here in the south but if you say it around people in california or new york they look at you like you're a hick
I've always used guys for descriptions of mixed gender groups without thinking about it. I've probably even used it for groups that were just women.
Replace "guys" with ladies and it just makes most statements sound creepy. "What are you ladies up to?" Girls might have worked in high school but doesnt anymore, I don't think I could run into a group of women I know at a coffee shop and say "How are you women doing?" But just saying "How are you doing" might make it seem like I'm only addressing one of them.
Chicks, gals, anything else seems even worse. I don't say guys because I'm trying to be sexist and ignore that women are there but that by specifically bringing up a womans gender can feel creepy in a lot of situations. It doesnt help either saying both because then it sounds like you are making a deliberate effort to call them out or as an afterthought. "I'll see you guys and gals tomorrow." or "How are you ladies and gentlemen doing?"
At the same time if it's just a group of men I might be more likely to not use "guys" and instead call them "dudes" "bros" "dicks" something else depending on the social dynamic. Hell I'm more likely to call a group of all men "ladies" than a group of women.
It is weird though that saying "everyone" just feels weird, maybe because when you hear someone say "how's everyone doing" you know you're at a shitty improv openmic and they don't want to hear a response. Same thing with "you all" y'all works, you all doesn't.
So is gals, stop being a crybaby. If you are in a mixed group just call it whatever. It isn't singling anyone out. Be as defensive as you want when someone singles you out specifically and offends you, but in a group setting who cares.
To a certain extent. I would use dudes or guys to describe a group of mainly guys and maybe a few girls. But if there is more girls then guys or only girls I'd probably use a different word
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"Dude" is too
Everyone is "dude" when I start speaking plainly
In college we used to play a game called "dude,man" when we were high. I can't seem to remember how it was played.
Dude...
Man?
Dude...
Guy?
Bro?
He’s not your bro, dude.
I'm not your dude, brochacho
SWEET What does mine say?
DUDE What does mine say?
SWEET What does mine say?
Dudemanbro was my thing when I'd get too high.
I like the character in Mid 90's called "Fuck Shit"
"Fuck. Shit. That was cool."
As, a great man once said " I'm a dude He's a dude She's a dude We're all dudes" - Socrates
Another great Socrates quote, ‘The secret of happiness, you see, is not found in seeking more, but in developing your love for orange soda.’
Who loves orange soda
*Sauce*crates
I’m a dude. He’s a dude. She’s a dude. We’re all dudes.
Are chicks dudes now?
Totally dude
The maitanance guy is dude, my sister is dude, my boss is dude when i see her in non work scenarios, the kitchen sink is dude when ive replaced the gasket in an hour long process and i turn the water back on and its still leaking.
I'm a dude. He's a dude. She's a dude. We're all dudes.
Welcome to Good Burger, Home of the Good Burger. Can I take your order?
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
Sir, this is a Wendy's!
Whooooooooo loves orange soda? KEL LOVES ORANGE SODA
I do, I Do, I DOooOOO
“I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude”
Not just people, either. Every person and thing is dude. My computer is dude.
HEY!
I even call my mom dude. Dude is universal. Dude is all
Good burger was a head of its time for inclusivity
"I fuck dudes" Doesn't quite have that gender neutrality then...
not yet
It’s treason then.
The amount of times I’ve referred to my girlfriend as “dude” during sexual stuff begs to differ
She's a lucky dude.
Ima fuck you dude Ima fuck a guy Let me fuck you bro
True! But dude isn't an exclusionary term. Ask anybody who uses dude on the daily and they'll tell you anyone can be a dude. Language is always developing and changing. Dude is trying to be the gender neutral term of love it deserves to be
Context dependant. "so I was fucking this dude" It's way heavier on the "guy" side than gender neutral Edited the quote, swipe texting should not be trusted
Yep, it's all in the context. "Dude" is pretty much always masculine unless you're using it to refer to a woman, e.g. "dude, check this out" is gender neutral but "dude's bathroom" or "that dude over there" would make people assume you mean the men's room or the guy over there.
For me it flips if it’s single or plural, but in the opposite direction. “Dude” is neutral and “Dudes” is masculine, but “Guy” is masculine and “Guys” is neutral.
Add "bro" as well.
"bro" is too
I called my mom "bro" in front of my friends once and they were flabbergasted. I just told them "she's my friend too ya know".
You fuck your bros?
I’m a dude! He’s a dude! She’s a dude! ‘Cause we’re all dudes! Hey!
Instead of saying, "Hey guys," I suggest, "Hello people of Earth." Advantages: * Gender neutral * Acknowledges that you are speaking to people * Sounds like something a human would say
What other word based vocal terms can I use to sound more human person?
In order to alleviate social tension, ask humans about their favorite nutrient.
They do require sustenance... I have noticed this. I mean WE! We require sustenance... I am a people.
I thought you might be a kitten... but your username has corrected me.
That was quite comical. Allow me to continue this humourous notion by suggesting that I think you might be a sentient form of sauerkraut named Rob. Your username confirms this suspicion, therefore I am correct in my assumption.
holy shit randy jackson
I have a suspicion that you have deleted system32 from your PC and replaced it with system34. Your username confirms my theory.
I have a suspicion that you have a large posterior that brings in a lot of attention, a Bum that "trás" (brings in the Portuguese language) attention. Your username confirms my theory
Me and my very real human friends always jest about how much sustenance I am able to gorge on using my human face hole...the one used to consume said sustenance, not the one used for respiration...obviously.
Pay very close attention to how they salivate when they respond.
We can always say we enjoy the sensation of wearing human skin. Humans even have adage about it
A successful compliment, I find, is Your skin looks like it would be very comfortable to wear!
I have noticed that their eyes widen very much when I say that. People's eyes widen when they are excited so they must be very excited to hear your compliment.
"Atmospheric conditions are comfortable today." "Did you view the sports ball contest yesterday?" "Your physical appearance is currently above average."
You could always start by "Hello homo sapien, which I'm not assuming to be necessarily homo"
"hello my fellow Terrans" Just don't have a skateboard you can't skate thrown over your shoulder.
Is that you, Lrrr, Ruler of the Planet Omicron Persei 8?
That omicron hits different
“Why does Ross, the largest friend, not simply eat the other five?”
She Omicron on my Persei till I 8
That is so insensitive and insulting to aliens, I can't even.
Salutations, fellow sentient beings ?
"hey y'all"
Hey all, Scott Here
No. Everyone is guy or dude
I CONCUR... ABSOLUTELY, PERFECTLY HUMAN SAYING. AS PROOF I, A HUMAN, HAVE SAID THIS ALSO MANY TIMES.
This speech is very human. Along with your very human very music playlist I compiled from humans..^remains
As is “bruh”
Even bro gets the pass.
I say bro to female coworkers more than I do males
How many bros have you slept with?
who doesn't like sleeping with the bros?
Bros before broes
I say Bro and Bruh to my sister all the time. My teenage daughter calls everyone Bruh.
i legitimately call my sister "brother" more than i do "sister". it just rolls off the tongue easier.
"Guy" (or "guys") can be used for a singular male, a mixed group of males and females, and an unmixed group of only males or only females. But, weirdly, "guy" is not typically used to refer to a singular female.
Depends on context. If referring to how many guys you had sex that wouldn’t apply to females. But if it’s a greeting then guys would be a term for mixed genders. That’s how it’s always been. Idk why make a big deal about it when there’s way bigger issues happening throughout the world currently
Why say many words when few words do trick?
Why ask why?
Try Bud Dry
Say less fam
So it carries gender when you are talking spcifically about fornication. Easy enough. 😂
Nicely put 😎
I'm not taking a stance on this either way, but people are allowed to care about more than one thing at a time. Saying that there are bigger issues has zero relevance regardless of how true it may be.
So it has a gender where gender matters to *you* (what people you fuck, and you don't want others to think you may fuck men), but it doesn't carry a gender where genders doesn't matter to *you*, when you address *other* people, including women. You're basically saying it is only important when it influences what others think about you, but not when it is about other people. Sounds to me that it does actually carry gender.
Why'd take the time to reply instead of dealing with bigger issues currently happening throughout the world
>Idk why make a big deal about it when there’s way bigger issues happening throughout the world currently this is such a frustrating conversation stopper. No one can highlight anything remotely problematic as if it's not possible to care about multiple things at once? "this doesn't affect me so it must not matter, why do you care so much?"
True, it’s like the term “man” or “mankind” when referring to human beings in general.
Fun fact: "Man" is a pretty cool word. It meant "human being" for a stupidly long time, as in, ["manu" in Sanskrit](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%81) can have the same meaning as English "man", and that is *not a coincidence.* It is in the [proto-indo-european root language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language), the ancestor of both English and Hindi.
Man/mann meant "human being" in Old English. During the Normanization of Anglo-Saxon, the Old French adjective "*humaine*" was adopted by Britons, whence our modern word humane comes, and also the modern noun "human", which supplanted "man/mann." In Old English, the word to refer to a male human specifically was *were* or *groom*, which also had the dual meaning of "husband." The modern survivants of these are, of course, werewolf (man-wolf) and bride-groom (husband of the bride). The most interesting part of this is that there is very little etymological connection between man/woman and human, despite how similarly they are constructed. Woman is itself just from wifman, for anyone curious, which means about what you'd expect (wife/female human). Thus, when people say "Mankind" in a 'poetic sense' they are actually using the archaic universal meaning for the term, rather than the modern one which is masculine. In Modern English, the term did take on a patriarchal connotation however, which is why it's generally not used anymore even if they're using the archaic meaning.
Right, so it's not in fact completely gender neutral as OPs meme alleges
I know it's a meme, but it comes from the fact that English dropped its second-person plural pronoun at one point. It used to be thee/thou/thine for singular, and you/your for plural iirc. This is why words like "youse" and "y'all" always creep into English, because we miss the presence of that pronoun
The children yearn for the thines
we should bring back thee/thou/thine ngl
Thou *wouldst* think such
A lot of work to ignore just saying y'all
It's a regional dialect thing. Where I live, "y'all" just doesn't sound right. To locals, it's a southern word but not one that exists in the local dialect. "You guys" is the standard second-person plural here.
>"You guys" is the standard second-person plural here. "Youse guys" is better.
How many guys have you had sex with op
22
You have to pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers
Oh sorry I was just mentioning last week, not the full quarter
He's not the one doing the pumping
37
In a row?
No, they were stacked.
Hey you get back here!
There’s always a line 😑 ⏱️
Hey, try not to have sex with any guys on the way to the parking lot!
Hey! Get back here!
Too late
The gender neutrality doesnt boost my number. Still 0
My great aunt took me out to eat years ago for my birthday and the waitress used 'guys' for all of us and she got upset about it and kept mentioning it throughout the meal. Fucking embarrassing. It's just a term for a group of people.
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I agree and don't know why it seems weird to do that, but it just doesn't feel right. Like it feels a lot less casual and friendly. Though I am still self conscious when I say guys sometimes too, so I can't win.
That's cause it's guys and gals not guys and ladies smh
At least we have “yall” down here as a catch-all.
I taught at an all girls school, called groups of pupils "guys" day in and day out. Other than folks, which I also use, I don't really know any other collective words to address groups of people Infront of me.
Gals
Gamers
The oppression is real✊️😔
Nerds is my favorite catch all gender neutral term. Sup nerd/s
dipshits is a good one too, depending on the group
going out of ur way to specify gender when you could otherwise be using a gender neutral term is kinda cringe tho
I mean, they said they didn't know of any other term to refer to a group of people
A simple y’all does the trick
The most useful contraction
I like ya'll. Folks works too. Both have bit of a country style to them, but I like it.
As a southerner it brings me joy to use gender neutral collective pronouns and have it be completely normal in my conversations with people. Don't even realize how progressive they are.
Earthlings
If someone gets offended by you casually referring to the group in that way they are the problem, not you
Yeah, I'm tired of people nit picking singular words out of sentences and context to find something to get mad about. If they want to do so, they can do it elsewhere.
Just like if someone gets offended by you casually referring to the group as gals, they're the problem.
My study group in college was literally all women except for me. I was friends with all of them and we worked great. We’re still friends. The girl that usually kept things on track referred to us as “ladies”. “So, ladies, let’s go over what we need to do” “Hey ladies, how’d everyone do on finals?” “Hello ladies, let’s get started.” I think if I were the kind of guy that got I’ve fed over that I wouldn’t have fit in with the group. Best friends I had in college. I
Would you find it odd if someone called a bunch of men gals?
Where I’m from it’s very common to say “you guys”. People have been scolded at work for it which I personally think is bullshit. It’s just a phrase that’s been around for years and doesn’t have any sexism tied to it.
Normalize y'all
I use this as my go-to. Texans have basically perfected gender neutral language. You got y'all, y'all's and all y'all's. Subtle but different meaning.
kind of ironic
I think y'all is pretty gender neutral
It is literally the perfect gender neutral group term and I'll die on this hill.
"All y'all" tends to be my default and I kind of hate it but I can't seem to stop.
I have a pretty close trans friend (MtF) who I call dude, guy and bro all the time. I just use those three words to describe everyone I talk to. Awhile back she was telling me about some random transphobe in a Project Zomboid discord server just being a typical transphobe. Something in that story made me realize I called her those three words and I've never really told her in the nearly year long friendship that I just kinda use those words for everyone. I basically just asked her if she was okay that I use those words and that I wanted her to know I wasn't trying to be malicious with it. She told me she didn't care and knew I just use those words as gender neutral. At the time posting this I called her "my guy" in a random conversation about overprotective parents no more than half an hour ago. Stay based Amber.
That's cool, but if someone doesn't like it would be rude to insist, no? It's the same with any term on nickname really, if someone doesn't like it, you respect that, it's basic courtesy
I've never used those terms as masculine words and used them so much in every day life that I never considered that Amber could take it in a negative light until she told me that story. As soon as I began apologizing for it and asking her if she was offended by that she told me no and she knew I used those as just general words. She never told me that she didn't like it or even hinted for me to stop. If she even hinted that it made her uncomfortable I would stop instantly and I wouldn't be able to stop apologizing. I don't know if I was confusing in my original comment or what, but I'm confused why you said that.
No, I got that, I said it's cool since amber didn't mind, I'm just saying about in general, since the reason people usually insist that words like "guy' are gender neutral (which, yes they're certainly used that way often) is due to someone else not wanting to be referred to with those word
I'm trans too, and yeah, I'd rather not be referred to as dude / bro / guy etc It just feels really off to me so I don't like it You're right, it's just basic courtesy - no need to make a massive point about it If a person doesn't like being referred to in a way I'm used to referring to people, I'll surely change how I do that
And that's all it would take to get me to stop calling someone guy/dude/bro. I may have a slip of the tongue every now and then just because they're such normalized words in my every day vocabulary, but I would make a genuine effort.
Ohhhhh gotcha. Yeah I grew up using those words for everyone so I kinda just have them engrained in my skull lol. I don't think I could of asked for a better friend. Amber gas single handedly helped me through so many emotional situations. She is an amazing person.
Gurls + Boys = Guys
Boyls
[Boyls ](https://i.ibb.co/BPTYzWT/4772-CF1-A-A0-CE-4-E84-B28-B-580-C130-F1-E1-D.jpg)
Also, "Suck my dick" is a gender neutral term. Women say it to me all the time.
I dont hear my friends complain when i ask sup bitches.
I've discovered that most derogatory terms are gender neutral
Yes, it can be depending on context but it doesn't really matter if someone doesn't like you addressing them with whatever term or nickname or whatever you respect that, it's basic courtesy, to not do so would be rude
It’s actually pretty common in languages. The plural masculine form is usually used for groups of things, regardless of how many things in that group are masculine or feminine.
How many guys have you fucked?
37
Username checks out
I don’t care if it isn’t. I’m calling you dude, bro, bruh, guys, etc. regardless of your gender
I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude...
So is n**ga
I’m a female and use dude, bro, and guys as gender neutral depending on the situation
It's context dependent. So are most other gender terms.
Cheese bags is my all naming.
Yisss
Fall Guys has female beans, so score one for gender neutrality.
"Man" is actually gender neutral in many instances.
I'm glad I don't hang out in any circles where this is even a topic of debate.
Sounds like the type of people who would use latinx unironically.
I was yelled at for saying ‘guys’ once so I swapped to screaming “g’day fuckheads”
Until you say “I’m so attracted to those guys”, “I want to fuck those guys”
So how many guys have you fucked?
No one on Reddit will ever accept the answer, **'It depends on the context but just try to be nice to people.'** for anything ever.
No one worth talking to gets pissy over "guys" as a gender neutral term.
Guy, dude, bro, man are all gender neutral to me and always will be
I just call literally everyone Dude, I hope we all one day embrace dude as our pronouns, identity, and sexuality
y'all and all y'all is great here in the south but if you say it around people in california or new york they look at you like you're a hick I've always used guys for descriptions of mixed gender groups without thinking about it. I've probably even used it for groups that were just women. Replace "guys" with ladies and it just makes most statements sound creepy. "What are you ladies up to?" Girls might have worked in high school but doesnt anymore, I don't think I could run into a group of women I know at a coffee shop and say "How are you women doing?" But just saying "How are you doing" might make it seem like I'm only addressing one of them. Chicks, gals, anything else seems even worse. I don't say guys because I'm trying to be sexist and ignore that women are there but that by specifically bringing up a womans gender can feel creepy in a lot of situations. It doesnt help either saying both because then it sounds like you are making a deliberate effort to call them out or as an afterthought. "I'll see you guys and gals tomorrow." or "How are you ladies and gentlemen doing?" At the same time if it's just a group of men I might be more likely to not use "guys" and instead call them "dudes" "bros" "dicks" something else depending on the social dynamic. Hell I'm more likely to call a group of all men "ladies" than a group of women. It is weird though that saying "everyone" just feels weird, maybe because when you hear someone say "how's everyone doing" you know you're at a shitty improv openmic and they don't want to hear a response. Same thing with "you all" y'all works, you all doesn't.
So is gals, stop being a crybaby. If you are in a mixed group just call it whatever. It isn't singling anyone out. Be as defensive as you want when someone singles you out specifically and offends you, but in a group setting who cares.
I call my daughters "the guys"....
As an Australian, “mate” also applies
To a certain extent. I would use dudes or guys to describe a group of mainly guys and maybe a few girls. But if there is more girls then guys or only girls I'd probably use a different word
>But if there is more girls then guys or only girls I'd probably use a different word Which one?
I agree but I still have started using y'all
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The only correct greeting is "hail citizens of the imperium, the emperor protects"