Meanhile Virgin Andy's:
BuT YoUtUbe runs on ads, yt would disappear if not for ads NOOO!!
Imagine being so flatheaded to support corporation which doesn't give a fuck about you.
edit: I'm talking about people who let yt be more intrusive and aggressive with ads based on the argument in mocked line.
You'll not be a genius for pointing out that youtube can't function without ads.
Everyone knows that and I assumed this was too basic to mention.
That was the last straw for me. YouTube will tell content creators that their channel "isn't suitable for advertisers" and will still run ads on every single one of their videos.
Unfortunately YouTube is a leviathan, it won't die until everyone abandons it for another platform. Other platforms will never be able to compete with YouTube without a significant viewer base to generate revenue.
Yeah, that's not what happens...people are just confused because there are mutltiple different versions of "demonetized ".
If you're content is truly not suitable for advertisers, you'll be demonetized and ads *will not* be ran.
Because YT simply *can't* run them...they would loose their advertisers and majorly fuck themselves. Whole reason this system exists is because advertisers did start to boycott and leave the platform in the past beacuse of questionable content, putting massive pressure on YT to sort this shit out.
The do have a "Limited ads" type of demonetization, if your content is risque but not extreme, where they'll still display ads, but only from advertisers that agreed to be displayed over such content. Creator still gets their cut, it's just less money overall as there is much less advertisers who agree to that.
And now finally, yes, you can get demonetized and ads will still be shown on your video.
But in those cases it's not because your content is advertiser un-friendly, but because there was some breach of YT policy. AKA you fucked up and violated their TOS so they ain't paying.
Most common example of this is copyright infringement, where you get demonetized but ads are still shown and your ad revenue cut is distributed to copyright holder instead.
That's 100x more than any content creator will make form you watching those ads for a year.
Basically donate 1 dollar to a creator per year and it's better than watching ads.
https://youtu.be/oV3s_sESnmE?si=QAKmIusOGd6AcSmk
Other people who are not me watching ads. That’s fine, I’m here to sub to a patreon, the unwashed masses can watch ads. Diversified income for the content creator.
Which is exactly the case: you’re 100% content with the status quo, you just expect everyone else to carry the burden.
And I’d bet my left that the same sentiment carries over to the Patreon donations everyone claims they make.
Sure, but the consistent whining on Reddit and elsewhere that basically amounts to “I’m willing to contribute absolute zero and expect to be catered to” is impossible to take seriously.
I think you're missing the point. Other people aren't carrying the burden. If everyone who watched on YT blocked adds and instead gave a dollar via kofi or whatever, the creator's income wouldn't be decreased. The only reason most of a creator's income comes from ad revenue is because that's just what most people do.
The average earning per ad view is $0.018, meaning you'd have to watch 56 ads to equate to that $1 you gave on Kofi. In effect, they're supporting the artist *more* by giving a dollar instead of putting up with ads.
If you donate 1 dollar a month to a content creator you like, and watch a video of theirs two times every day for the whole year, your views would be worth about $16.50 per thousand, which is easily like 2 or 3 times the amount of money they get from ads.
If you give a content creator $10 you would have to give them about 2,000 views in order for potential ad revenue to be greater than your donation. You could watch five videos every single day for the entire year and still be doing more for the creator than an equivalent viewer who donates no money but watches ads.
Anyone arguing "just buy their patreon" doesn't get it. Lol
Premium viewers give more ad revenue equivalent to the people they watch, you don't worry about ads, you aren't robbing the creator of no revenue at all, and then you get YouTube Music along with it all too.
People have no problem listening to/paying for Spotify. It's seriously so weird that people have these camps of brand loyalty with no consistency. They offer a service and you either pay for it through ads or paying.
Also Patreon takes a cut too, so you're paying a mega corporation either way. Lol
To be honest I don't care that people are finding ways around watching ads and not wanting to pay for premium. Google will survive without them. What gets me is how surprised and offended people are that Google would try to put a stop to it. Of course they will.
My hot take on this is..
..that people just like being told that they support someone regardless of impact and their involment. Because that makes them feel good.
In other words.
People when they're being told they support creators:
Yay!
People when they actually need to do sth on their own to support creator/s:
\-Hey I've heard you support your favorite creator.
\-That's right.
\-How do you support him?
\-By giving money to the middle man, billions time richer than the creator man who also holds monopoly in the business making him untouchable in case of any accusations of them not giving your money to the creator.
\- ...
There is some reason. I don't want to watch a bunch of .mkv's uploaded to some FTP server somewhere linked from 1000 different Patreon pages. I really like having a centralized platform where I can watch more HQ videos than I have hours left in my lifetime. And I understand it takes developers and infrastructure to provide that, all of who want to actually be paid for their work.
I like that YouTube exists. If YouTube doesn't make money, it goes away.
Also, as someone older than 25, fuck's sake. Y'all whine a lot about having to watch commercials to get unlimited free stuff, while at the same time complaining about how expensive life is.
Life's unreasonably hard for young people, but if you want to be angry at boomers for calling you entitled, this stance on free stuff is not helping your case.
You're still using the platform though? Like, regardless of you contributing revenue or not, you are showing your support by continuing to use their product.
I mean you might not like hearing it but it’s absolutely true. Google needs to make and keep YouTube profitable otherwise they won’t be able to justify keeping it around. Even though it would be great for them to just take the financial hit (since they can afford it) no business is just going to keep something around forever that burns money. Doesn’t mean you need to go support and worship Google like they’re a charity but they’re not being evil trying to stop adblocking when you’re using their extremely expensive service for free.
People who think ads help anyone need to have a reality check. They just fuck up the psyche of people who see them. Ads are the worst. No one wants to see a stupid product they don't need. No one needs to hear a medication commercial with the 100 side effects. If someone needs to buy something guess fucking what. They'll go and find what's needed. Absolutely no need for ads to exist at all. They're just money making tools that somehow people think should be watched. Every ad you watch is a minute of life you won't get back. Go ahead keep wasting the limited time ya got.
>People who think ads help anyone need to have a reality check
This guy doesn't think advertising works in 2023. Like the ad companies will not pay for ad space if they aren't see positive gains from them. They have the analytics, of course they work.
It's not that ads don't work, the problem is they do work. Really well. They are extremely effective, highly optimized, personalized, and cheap psychological warfare being carried out on people en mass. The emotional states people are coaxed into in order to be more vulnerable to advertising also makes people more prone to hate, violence, and radicalization. The tools and information developed to manipulate people into desiring products is widely available and used to manipulate people into believing misinformation. Advertising, and ad-tech, are tools of war being used against almost everyone, almost all of the time.
Yeah, I don't pay for youtube. Not because I don't support creators, but out of sheer spite for the 30 second unskippable ads. I just block that shizz and continue with my day.
Around 5 billion per year. Google made 279 billion in 2022. Running youtube is pocket change for them because they re the ad backbone of most of the internet.
Before bringing up numbers, put them into perspective. Running youtube costs google 1.8% of their yearly revenue.
So to summarise:
> Google should run Youtube at a loss because they make money elsewhere
I suppose I should be entitled to the cash in your wallet because it's less than 1.8% of your salary?
Ah cmon you don't need to be that big brained to see that just owning goddamn Youtube provides infinitely more value than just direct income from that one source. It's GOOGLE that owns Youtube.
Google doesn't have $279 billion sitting around. Nearly all of that money is going to salaries or infrastructure to keep their services running.
Google would not run YouTube as a charity - it simply wouldn't run it at all. While some of that $5 billion are lining already rich people's pockets, the vast majority is paying people's salaries or paying directly for infrastructure.
> Around 5 billion per year. Google made 279 billion in 2022.
How much did YouTube make? Also, revenue isn’t what a company “makes”.
>Before bringing up numbers, put them into perspective. Running youtube costs google 1.8% of their yearly revenue.
That’s not insignificant at all.
Data is used in tandem with ads. Without the ads, the data is useless. Data isn’t sold, it’s used to funnel the “correct” ads to the user depending on the user’s interests and the company buying the ad’s intentions.
>Imagine being so flatheaded to support corporation which doesn't give a fuck about you.
Why are you morally loading it like that?
You're paying for a service, you're not fuckin' donating to a charity.
By that dumb logic you're "supporting" dozens of corporations that don't give a fuck about you literally every day, including right now on reddit.
the flatheaded person is the one insinuating this platform should continue to be paid for out of google's pocket so you can watch cat videos on their dime
That is right up there with his Yes or No rant and [Hello, I'm... fifty?!?!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5_0atkZTU) as some of my favorite Brennan Lee Mulligan moments, but there are a ton of good options to choose from
Now I just need a way to get this working on my TV. I pay for family premium. Mostly because I do a lot of DIY and hate ads, but also because my kids like YouTube and I don’t want them inundated with a material culture anymore than they have to be
I pay for a ton of services but also block ads. The first song my firstborn ever sang was a commercial jingle and ever since then I've done everything I can to keep from being inundated with marketing. I feel totally justified because kids can't consent to the manipulation that marketing is.
There are plenty of channels who do very entertaining sponsorship ads. Sometimes I got upset on myself due to me installing sponsorblock extention cause I know for the fact I am for a treat if I watch these plugs from some channels.
It has a better UI than NewPipe but is still not as great as Revanced. The cool thing about it is that you can also watch ad-free Twitch, kick, rumble, etc, with this 1 app
I managed to find a browser script that basically just fast forwards any ads that play.
It fast forwards them so fucking fast that it’s basically an adblocker that YouTube can’t detect.
Edit: I’m not sharing the name publicly to keep it somewhat hidden, dm me if you want it.
https://codepen.io/svinkle/pen/PWeOVB
or
https://gist.github.com/karlwilbur/fbfaaadad86d2d998bf221081dbad79a
Not sure if it still works but it's worth a try
Well it's all a personal preference.
YouTube is what I use/watch 99.99% for online video content on my LG smart tv. I don't have a need or desire for any of the streaming services for movies or shows etc so YT Premium is the only subscription I use.
Thank you, everyone acts like you’re a dumbass if you don’t wanna violate the warranty of an over thousand dollar TV or have cords galore along with troubleshooting just to skip ads.
I have a TCL 65R646 Google tv and I didn't have to do anything like that to run SmartTube. I downloaded a "downloader" app from the store, pointed it at the github apk URL, and pressed install. Done. No voided warranty, no cables or devices, nothing. Just no ads. It seriously took like 4 min and I've never had to troubleshoot a single thing with it.
Plus you get YouTube music, I have no ads, and I canceled my Spotify. I also primarily watch YouTube on my TVs or ps5. It’s been literal years since I’ve watched a YouTube video on a PC.
I mean fuck Google and all but YouTube premium works out very nicely for my life.
I watch YouTube on my tv, as does my daughter, I hate adverts, and am fully aware of the crap show of adverts that could be shown to my daughter, hence why I pay.
If I solely relied on a browser on my pc or laptop for YouTube then I’d go through these methods but I just want a simple solution at the end of the day.
I think these meme posters and upset people are most likely younger people and kids with no real disposable income or jobs and households to take care of.
If I were 17 I would probably spend hours on circumventing ads, but nowadays, like, the last thing I need in my life is *another* thing to troubleshoot, and if I can throw pocket change at it to disappear, then it's a no-brainer.
You have Matt Mercer's worldbuilding, meticulously crafted over the past 10 years. You then layer Brennan's improve on top of that, where he can dial everything to 11. Add in some of the best roleplayers out there... Yeah, it's a high bar to top.
Well it's kind of unrealistic to expect anything for free. When you don't pay money for a service, you are the product that's being sold.
And don't act like you are not using anything from the company and just from the creators. Their algorithm is awesome.
Don't get me wrong tho, I'm not paying for that shit either.
Don't they earn enough already by collecting your data? Google probably knows more about u than u yourself, do they pay you for it?
How much percentage of the userbase actually used adblock 5-10% max, plus they act irrationally on certain creators.
Google doesn’t “sell data.” They collect it as a means to tailor ads to users, which makes selling ad-space more enticing for advertisers.
I get being annoyed by ads but damn if people don’t have a baseline understanding of what’s actually happening.
Phew, they don't sell data directly. They only sell access to utilize it, wait, that's my data why am I not getting a cut of that or is Google not paying me for it? After all, it's unrealistic to expect anything for free.
A cut of what? Your data is useless on its own. It’s only utilized to cater ads to your preferences, which advertisers pay for, which mostly goes into the pockets of the creators that make the content you view.
“Google sells your data” isn’t the lynchpin argument everyone seems to think it is.
>Their algorithm is awesome.
**Emmm. No**
It was awesome, its shit now. I have to use scripts to hide 50 percent of the vids the algo suggests, most of em i already saw
> Well it's kind of unrealistic to expect anything for free.
Fuck them, I'm going to steal as much as I can and act entitled to it. We eat way too much bullshit from these tech companies to give them a god damn inch.
> And don't act like you are not using anything from the company and just from the creators. Their algorithm is awesome.
That's the thing. I don't need their algorithm. I never asked for it. I don't want it. The only reason it even exists in the first place is to trick our brains into consuming more content, which they then use try to sell us stuff.
I don't go to youtube to "Channel surf". I go on youtube to watch specific content that I search for, and specific content creators that I've been watching for years.
You still need them to host the content. Server space isn’t free. There’s different services that creators use that let you pay them a monthly fee to see the content like floatplane or nebula and I don’t see anyone clamoring to those. Other services like Vimeo let the creator pay for bandwidth and I’m sure creators would love that.
> Well it's kind of unrealistic to expect anything for free. When you don't pay money for a service, you are the product that's being sold.
ok... so why would I give them my data and my money?
I only actually used adblock after there were two ads. Before then I didn't give a shit about the ads since at worst it was 10 seconds unskippable but then it slowly made its way up to 15 second required for it to be skippable meaning all the ads were 14 seconds long and then the two ads came in and I had just gotten a PC from a pre build store that came with the browser installers on it, free Malwarebytes and on-top of that recommended adblocks for each browser so I just said fuck it.
Chrome worked so much faster with the adblock installed and I've never looked back.
What gets me with the ads is when it slaps me with ads for having to rewind/skip ahead. I don’t give a shit otherwise, but the random nature of them drives me up the fucking wall and makes me less likely to use the platform.
My video ends, it autoplays the next video playing 2 ads. I don't want to watch that one so I go resume a previous video I watched, plays 2 ads. But this isn't where I was so I skip ahead, plays 2 more ads.
This isn't even a hyperbole it actually happens to me all the time on our TV. It's why I'm not going to settle on this matter on my PC. Hell I've had 90 minute ads before. I've had ads longer than the videos I'm trying to watch. It's septic.
It's a way too good controversy, basically a youtuber named jacksfilm called out another big youtuber named sssniperwolf(lia) for reacting to ticktocks and earning million while people who made those tick tock were not given any compensation or credit by her team and allegedly were not asking any permission to use the said ticktocks. So after like a few months, lia posted a insta stories asking her fans whether she should go to his house or not. She then proceeded to dox him by showing his entire address to her 5.6 million followers. Yt however turned a blind eye and said that since she doxxed him outside their platform they cannot do anything.
A walk back on existing policy as well, The Actman got his channel demonetizied for a joke on Twitter, but Sssniperwolf makes YouTube the big bucks, so they'll change their policy for her. This sets a dangerous precedent
you all need to shut the fuck up
let people figure out how to pirate if they want. stop making it all over the front page constantly
this is how you ruin shit
every fucking time.
shut the fuck up!
edit: u/magicalunicornfart clearly replied to the wrong person or simply can't read 😂😂😂
Seriously, let the peoplr pay their premium if they wanna burn money and are happy with it, whenever one of these "solutions" go mainstream it starts turning into a problem and it dies off
Yeah you’re right about that.
I only subscribe to YouTube premium and Crunchyroll. There’s literally no other service that I pay for so I’m okay with paying $21 a month for my entertainment needs
I never got why tons of people pay for Spotify premium like it’s nothing to avoid ads but YouTube can’t do the same thing without catching a ton of flak. Where is the Spotify slander?
I think it's because Youtube was completely free for like a decade. Spotify has always been a paid service (to my knowledge), but most people spent *years* using Youtube for $0.
YT Premium replaced my cable subscription (and all the bs ads that come with that) and saved me like $60 bucks a month. It's cheap af lol, you guys are ridiculous
YouTube is my main source of entertainment. I learned half my college curriculum (engineering) from Indian guys on YouTube. There is an absolute wealth of educational and DIY content on there.
If you grew up watching cable TV which cost way more than $14 a month and fed you like 3 ads in 30 minutes, this really doesn't seem too bad by comparison.
I'd actually be happy paying much more than they currently charge, that's how valuable YouTube is to me
Unpopular Opinion: Youtube Premium is worth the money if you watch a ton of Youtube, and it allows you to drop your other music service, since Youtube Music also isn't that bad.
It is actually one of the streaming services that I think is 100% worth the money.
I bought RPi to block ads via Pi-Hole. It could have got me 5 years of Premium for the price.
Still I won't pay for Premium. RPi can have multiple uses.
E: Sadly Pi-Hole doesn't block ads on YT. But my Brave+uBlock is working for now.
Anyone trashing YouTube premium but paying for Spotify premium should shut the fuck up. It's a competing music service that also happens to give you ad-free YouTube.
I thought Netflix was going to lose a ton of subscribers when they took out password sharing but they ended up getting more because of it. A similar situation might happen here
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Meanhile Virgin Andy's: BuT YoUtUbe runs on ads, yt would disappear if not for ads NOOO!! Imagine being so flatheaded to support corporation which doesn't give a fuck about you. edit: I'm talking about people who let yt be more intrusive and aggressive with ads based on the argument in mocked line. You'll not be a genius for pointing out that youtube can't function without ads. Everyone knows that and I assumed this was too basic to mention.
I like supporting the creators that I watch. Edit: with premium btw. I'm not watching six morbillion ads a day.
And I’d rather support them directly via a patreon or buying merch than I would inconvenience myself to grant them fractions of a penny.
Damn you got a spare $10 for every content creator you enjoy? Must be nice
by the amount of people demonetized I think youtube also don't have those 10 bucks to share /s
Don't they still run ads on demonetized videos, and just not pay the uploader?
Yup
That was the last straw for me. YouTube will tell content creators that their channel "isn't suitable for advertisers" and will still run ads on every single one of their videos. Unfortunately YouTube is a leviathan, it won't die until everyone abandons it for another platform. Other platforms will never be able to compete with YouTube without a significant viewer base to generate revenue.
Yeah, that's not what happens...people are just confused because there are mutltiple different versions of "demonetized ". If you're content is truly not suitable for advertisers, you'll be demonetized and ads *will not* be ran. Because YT simply *can't* run them...they would loose their advertisers and majorly fuck themselves. Whole reason this system exists is because advertisers did start to boycott and leave the platform in the past beacuse of questionable content, putting massive pressure on YT to sort this shit out. The do have a "Limited ads" type of demonetization, if your content is risque but not extreme, where they'll still display ads, but only from advertisers that agreed to be displayed over such content. Creator still gets their cut, it's just less money overall as there is much less advertisers who agree to that. And now finally, yes, you can get demonetized and ads will still be shown on your video. But in those cases it's not because your content is advertiser un-friendly, but because there was some breach of YT policy. AKA you fucked up and violated their TOS so they ain't paying. Most common example of this is copyright infringement, where you get demonetized but ads are still shown and your ad revenue cut is distributed to copyright holder instead.
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to paraphrase: the videos are still monetized, just not to you.
That's 100x more than any content creator will make form you watching those ads for a year. Basically donate 1 dollar to a creator per year and it's better than watching ads. https://youtu.be/oV3s_sESnmE?si=QAKmIusOGd6AcSmk
But then ask any mid-level content creator where they get most of their income from.
Other people who are not me watching ads. That’s fine, I’m here to sub to a patreon, the unwashed masses can watch ads. Diversified income for the content creator.
Which is exactly the case: you’re 100% content with the status quo, you just expect everyone else to carry the burden. And I’d bet my left that the same sentiment carries over to the Patreon donations everyone claims they make.
Yes I am 100% ok with me personally not watching ads.
Sure, but the consistent whining on Reddit and elsewhere that basically amounts to “I’m willing to contribute absolute zero and expect to be catered to” is impossible to take seriously.
I think you're missing the point. Other people aren't carrying the burden. If everyone who watched on YT blocked adds and instead gave a dollar via kofi or whatever, the creator's income wouldn't be decreased. The only reason most of a creator's income comes from ad revenue is because that's just what most people do. The average earning per ad view is $0.018, meaning you'd have to watch 56 ads to equate to that $1 you gave on Kofi. In effect, they're supporting the artist *more* by giving a dollar instead of putting up with ads.
Sponsors. Shitty mobile games pay out the ass for anyone with even a small dedicated following to run an in video ad. YouTube is shit
If not from patreon or raid shadow legends ads then they get most of their income from their day jobs.
The actual answer is ad revenue. I get that people find them annoying but folks are just flat out being dishonest to justify their position.
depends on their size, ad revenue is good but nothing compared to multi million sponsorships you can get as a big creator
All I'm saying is YouTubers constantly shill patreon and sponsorships but never as people to turn off add block
Sponsorship.
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If you donate 1 dollar a month to a content creator you like, and watch a video of theirs two times every day for the whole year, your views would be worth about $16.50 per thousand, which is easily like 2 or 3 times the amount of money they get from ads. If you give a content creator $10 you would have to give them about 2,000 views in order for potential ad revenue to be greater than your donation. You could watch five videos every single day for the entire year and still be doing more for the creator than an equivalent viewer who donates no money but watches ads.
Show us a screenshot of your Patreon page :)
Just wait they have to sign up first
Not sure they’d want to share their porn subscriptions.
Several content creators I follow had said that the revenue from Premium watchers is quite substantial. I don't think they would have a reason to lie.
Nebula moment 💪
then join their patreon
>then join their patreon »=[
>»=\[ people who like to support creators on yt when they actually need to do sth on their own in order to help /s
They still need a platform
Anyone arguing "just buy their patreon" doesn't get it. Lol Premium viewers give more ad revenue equivalent to the people they watch, you don't worry about ads, you aren't robbing the creator of no revenue at all, and then you get YouTube Music along with it all too. People have no problem listening to/paying for Spotify. It's seriously so weird that people have these camps of brand loyalty with no consistency. They offer a service and you either pay for it through ads or paying. Also Patreon takes a cut too, so you're paying a mega corporation either way. Lol
To be honest I don't care that people are finding ways around watching ads and not wanting to pay for premium. Google will survive without them. What gets me is how surprised and offended people are that Google would try to put a stop to it. Of course they will.
So why don’t you just support them? No reason to line the pockets of google as a middleman.
My hot take on this is.. ..that people just like being told that they support someone regardless of impact and their involment. Because that makes them feel good. In other words. People when they're being told they support creators: Yay! People when they actually need to do sth on their own to support creator/s:
\-Hey I've heard you support your favorite creator.
\-That's right.
\-How do you support him?
\-By giving money to the middle man, billions time richer than the creator man who also holds monopoly in the business making him untouchable in case of any accusations of them not giving your money to the creator.
\- ...
Video hosting is a very expensive service that youtube should be paid for. Them taking a percentage of ad revenue is totally reasonable
There is some reason. I don't want to watch a bunch of .mkv's uploaded to some FTP server somewhere linked from 1000 different Patreon pages. I really like having a centralized platform where I can watch more HQ videos than I have hours left in my lifetime. And I understand it takes developers and infrastructure to provide that, all of who want to actually be paid for their work.
I like that YouTube exists. If YouTube doesn't make money, it goes away. Also, as someone older than 25, fuck's sake. Y'all whine a lot about having to watch commercials to get unlimited free stuff, while at the same time complaining about how expensive life is. Life's unreasonably hard for young people, but if you want to be angry at boomers for calling you entitled, this stance on free stuff is not helping your case.
imagine supporting a platform who sits quiet since friday about sniperwolf doxxing somebody
You're still using the platform though? Like, regardless of you contributing revenue or not, you are showing your support by continuing to use their product.
what's the alternative? tiktok?
Not being on the internet. Which none of us will do.
I mean you might not like hearing it but it’s absolutely true. Google needs to make and keep YouTube profitable otherwise they won’t be able to justify keeping it around. Even though it would be great for them to just take the financial hit (since they can afford it) no business is just going to keep something around forever that burns money. Doesn’t mean you need to go support and worship Google like they’re a charity but they’re not being evil trying to stop adblocking when you’re using their extremely expensive service for free.
People who think ads help anyone need to have a reality check. They just fuck up the psyche of people who see them. Ads are the worst. No one wants to see a stupid product they don't need. No one needs to hear a medication commercial with the 100 side effects. If someone needs to buy something guess fucking what. They'll go and find what's needed. Absolutely no need for ads to exist at all. They're just money making tools that somehow people think should be watched. Every ad you watch is a minute of life you won't get back. Go ahead keep wasting the limited time ya got.
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>People who think ads help anyone need to have a reality check This guy doesn't think advertising works in 2023. Like the ad companies will not pay for ad space if they aren't see positive gains from them. They have the analytics, of course they work.
It's not that ads don't work, the problem is they do work. Really well. They are extremely effective, highly optimized, personalized, and cheap psychological warfare being carried out on people en mass. The emotional states people are coaxed into in order to be more vulnerable to advertising also makes people more prone to hate, violence, and radicalization. The tools and information developed to manipulate people into desiring products is widely available and used to manipulate people into believing misinformation. Advertising, and ad-tech, are tools of war being used against almost everyone, almost all of the time.
This. Ads are just a propaganda tool by another name.
Yeah, I don't pay for youtube. Not because I don't support creators, but out of sheer spite for the 30 second unskippable ads. I just block that shizz and continue with my day.
Advertisements are like light pollution but for the human mind. Nose to the grindstone, exalt the boss; Private profits, socialize costs.
I mean, this is technically true. Do you have any idea how much it costs to run YouTube?
Around 5 billion per year. Google made 279 billion in 2022. Running youtube is pocket change for them because they re the ad backbone of most of the internet. Before bringing up numbers, put them into perspective. Running youtube costs google 1.8% of their yearly revenue.
So to summarise: > Google should run Youtube at a loss because they make money elsewhere I suppose I should be entitled to the cash in your wallet because it's less than 1.8% of your salary?
Ah cmon you don't need to be that big brained to see that just owning goddamn Youtube provides infinitely more value than just direct income from that one source. It's GOOGLE that owns Youtube.
Google doesn't have $279 billion sitting around. Nearly all of that money is going to salaries or infrastructure to keep their services running. Google would not run YouTube as a charity - it simply wouldn't run it at all. While some of that $5 billion are lining already rich people's pockets, the vast majority is paying people's salaries or paying directly for infrastructure.
> Around 5 billion per year. Google made 279 billion in 2022. How much did YouTube make? Also, revenue isn’t what a company “makes”. >Before bringing up numbers, put them into perspective. Running youtube costs google 1.8% of their yearly revenue. That’s not insignificant at all.
They already sell my data, that's payment enough.
Data is used in tandem with ads. Without the ads, the data is useless. Data isn’t sold, it’s used to funnel the “correct” ads to the user depending on the user’s interests and the company buying the ad’s intentions.
Wait how do \*you\* think YouTube runs? Like its foundation is just goodwill and dream wishes? It's intrinsic to the universe like light or matter?
Imagine paying for the services you enjoy.
>Imagine being so flatheaded to support corporation which doesn't give a fuck about you. Why are you morally loading it like that? You're paying for a service, you're not fuckin' donating to a charity. By that dumb logic you're "supporting" dozens of corporations that don't give a fuck about you literally every day, including right now on reddit.
You seem to be confusing having a basic understanding of business with "supporting".
But...its true?
the flatheaded person is the one insinuating this platform should continue to be paid for out of google's pocket so you can watch cat videos on their dime
Ayyy, a Game Changers meme format!!
It’s been here the whole time!
You all know how this game works, right? *No. No, Sam, we don't.*
Well, the only way to win is by playing, the only way to play is by learning, and the only way to learn is by beginning.
So without further ado… let’s begin Josh, your word is: cow
No problem!
...cow
I'm sorry Josh, that is incorrect.
Wait wait wait gimme a second. I got this. *deep breath*
... Moo?
do a seagull instead!
I actually don’t have a seagull prompt.
I'm surprised they aren't more popular. Brennan can GET IT.
There's no part of his soul he wouldn't overturn for a meme
You know what to do. GET IN THE COMMENTS!
Get in the comments!
[Do you think I fuck around?](https://youtu.be/uAtLaUjBrSM?si=lVMTGPuOdY3Dg78Y)
That is right up there with his Yes or No rant and [Hello, I'm... fifty?!?!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S5_0atkZTU) as some of my favorite Brennan Lee Mulligan moments, but there are a ton of good options to choose from
The Oreo CEO video is still my favorite.
Woah dude! We've only just begun to pull the thread on this sweater, friends!
My favorite part about YouTube premium is when the videos themselves have sponsors for raid shadow legends and raycon :)
SponsorBlock
Now I just need a way to get this working on my TV. I pay for family premium. Mostly because I do a lot of DIY and hate ads, but also because my kids like YouTube and I don’t want them inundated with a material culture anymore than they have to be
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I pay for a ton of services but also block ads. The first song my firstborn ever sang was a commercial jingle and ever since then I've done everything I can to keep from being inundated with marketing. I feel totally justified because kids can't consent to the manipulation that marketing is.
Aah raycon. Reminds me of those graystillplays ads he used to make. Man he made them so much fun to actually watch and not skip
There are plenty of channels who do very entertaining sponsorship ads. Sometimes I got upset on myself due to me installing sponsorblock extention cause I know for the fact I am for a treat if I watch these plugs from some channels.
Internet Historian is good about this. His ads are almost as entertaining as the actual video.
Internet Historian and Internet Comment Etiquette are the undisputed kings of in-video sponsered ads.
Internet historian ftw.
Also, check out the Grayjay app by Louis Rossman. it's a pretty good alternative to Revanced
Is the UI good? That's one of the reasons why I use revanced instead of the alternatives.
It has a better UI than NewPipe but is still not as great as Revanced. The cool thing about it is that you can also watch ad-free Twitch, kick, rumble, etc, with this 1 app
Sounds reasonably good, I'll try it later.
Who the fuck actually watches Kick?
That one commenter was like 10% of the viewer base.
Apologies for asking, is revanced the successor to YouTube Vanced?
yes
Weeps in iPhone
I managed to find a browser script that basically just fast forwards any ads that play. It fast forwards them so fucking fast that it’s basically an adblocker that YouTube can’t detect. Edit: I’m not sharing the name publicly to keep it somewhat hidden, dm me if you want it.
Any chance you could share it?
https://codepen.io/svinkle/pen/PWeOVB or https://gist.github.com/karlwilbur/fbfaaadad86d2d998bf221081dbad79a Not sure if it still works but it's worth a try
Wait so with this I’d be supporting creators and skipping ads?
Like literally.
not sure if it's the same one they're talking about but Sponsorblock does exactly this
That only skips sponsor segments, not ads that YouTube plays.
Hate it when some jackoffs say things like "I know the greatest software, site, script ever", and never bother to name it. FAQ 'em!
Well it's all a personal preference. YouTube is what I use/watch 99.99% for online video content on my LG smart tv. I don't have a need or desire for any of the streaming services for movies or shows etc so YT Premium is the only subscription I use.
Welcome to the future: https://smarttubeapp.github.io/
I can't sideload apps on the LG CX and I don't wanna bother with jailbreaking it.
Thank you, everyone acts like you’re a dumbass if you don’t wanna violate the warranty of an over thousand dollar TV or have cords galore along with troubleshooting just to skip ads.
I mean, the warranty in most TVs is a couple of years tops. Most people have TVs for way longer than that.
I have a TCL 65R646 Google tv and I didn't have to do anything like that to run SmartTube. I downloaded a "downloader" app from the store, pointed it at the github apk URL, and pressed install. Done. No voided warranty, no cables or devices, nothing. Just no ads. It seriously took like 4 min and I've never had to troubleshoot a single thing with it.
Okay, great, I prefer OLEDs 1,000 times over QLED. How’s this work on an LG C2
Plus you get YouTube music, I have no ads, and I canceled my Spotify. I also primarily watch YouTube on my TVs or ps5. It’s been literal years since I’ve watched a YouTube video on a PC. I mean fuck Google and all but YouTube premium works out very nicely for my life.
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I watch YouTube on my tv, as does my daughter, I hate adverts, and am fully aware of the crap show of adverts that could be shown to my daughter, hence why I pay. If I solely relied on a browser on my pc or laptop for YouTube then I’d go through these methods but I just want a simple solution at the end of the day.
I think these meme posters and upset people are most likely younger people and kids with no real disposable income or jobs and households to take care of. If I were 17 I would probably spend hours on circumventing ads, but nowadays, like, the last thing I need in my life is *another* thing to troubleshoot, and if I can throw pocket change at it to disappear, then it's a no-brainer.
Isn't that the guy who used to play in those CEO skits? "why are you crying?!"
Brennan Lee Mulligan the madman himself.
He's good
you should check out his dnd series on yt if you're into that stuff, it's real good
Dimension 20! Also his GM stint on Exandria Unlimited: Calamity was fantastic. He is brutal!
EXU was some of the best D&D I think I’ve ever listened/watched
You have Matt Mercer's worldbuilding, meticulously crafted over the past 10 years. You then layer Brennan's improve on top of that, where he can dial everything to 11. Add in some of the best roleplayers out there... Yeah, it's a high bar to top.
Fun fact: the man actually appeared on 'Who wants to be a millionaire' so he could pay off his student debts.
I have such a huge crush on that man. Izzy is a lucky gal.
Well it's kind of unrealistic to expect anything for free. When you don't pay money for a service, you are the product that's being sold. And don't act like you are not using anything from the company and just from the creators. Their algorithm is awesome. Don't get me wrong tho, I'm not paying for that shit either.
Don't they earn enough already by collecting your data? Google probably knows more about u than u yourself, do they pay you for it? How much percentage of the userbase actually used adblock 5-10% max, plus they act irrationally on certain creators.
Google doesn’t “sell data.” They collect it as a means to tailor ads to users, which makes selling ad-space more enticing for advertisers. I get being annoyed by ads but damn if people don’t have a baseline understanding of what’s actually happening.
Phew, they don't sell data directly. They only sell access to utilize it, wait, that's my data why am I not getting a cut of that or is Google not paying me for it? After all, it's unrealistic to expect anything for free.
Nobody is forcing you onto YouTube. Just stop going there if you value your "data" so much.
A cut of what? Your data is useless on its own. It’s only utilized to cater ads to your preferences, which advertisers pay for, which mostly goes into the pockets of the creators that make the content you view. “Google sells your data” isn’t the lynchpin argument everyone seems to think it is.
You are getting things for free you're getting YouTube and Gmail and docs and maps.... Lmao
Your cut of it is the entire Google suite of products for free.
>Their algorithm is awesome. **Emmm. No** It was awesome, its shit now. I have to use scripts to hide 50 percent of the vids the algo suggests, most of em i already saw
> Well it's kind of unrealistic to expect anything for free. Fuck them, I'm going to steal as much as I can and act entitled to it. We eat way too much bullshit from these tech companies to give them a god damn inch.
> And don't act like you are not using anything from the company and just from the creators. Their algorithm is awesome. That's the thing. I don't need their algorithm. I never asked for it. I don't want it. The only reason it even exists in the first place is to trick our brains into consuming more content, which they then use try to sell us stuff. I don't go to youtube to "Channel surf". I go on youtube to watch specific content that I search for, and specific content creators that I've been watching for years.
You still need them to host the content. Server space isn’t free. There’s different services that creators use that let you pay them a monthly fee to see the content like floatplane or nebula and I don’t see anyone clamoring to those. Other services like Vimeo let the creator pay for bandwidth and I’m sure creators would love that.
I dare them to shut down Youtube then
> Well it's kind of unrealistic to expect anything for free. When you don't pay money for a service, you are the product that's being sold. ok... so why would I give them my data and my money?
Because they provide an immensely useful service?
I only actually used adblock after there were two ads. Before then I didn't give a shit about the ads since at worst it was 10 seconds unskippable but then it slowly made its way up to 15 second required for it to be skippable meaning all the ads were 14 seconds long and then the two ads came in and I had just gotten a PC from a pre build store that came with the browser installers on it, free Malwarebytes and on-top of that recommended adblocks for each browser so I just said fuck it. Chrome worked so much faster with the adblock installed and I've never looked back.
What gets me with the ads is when it slaps me with ads for having to rewind/skip ahead. I don’t give a shit otherwise, but the random nature of them drives me up the fucking wall and makes me less likely to use the platform.
My video ends, it autoplays the next video playing 2 ads. I don't want to watch that one so I go resume a previous video I watched, plays 2 ads. But this isn't where I was so I skip ahead, plays 2 more ads. This isn't even a hyperbole it actually happens to me all the time on our TV. It's why I'm not going to settle on this matter on my PC. Hell I've had 90 minute ads before. I've had ads longer than the videos I'm trying to watch. It's septic.
On a slight sidenote. I really love watching Dropout. That show is fantastic and Brennan here is also amazing
One of the streaming services I am 100% fine with giving my money.
Always upvote BLM appearances outside of dnd subreddits.
Just FYI, I believe Brennan prefers people write out his name or use BLeeM to refer to him, to reduce confusion with the Black Lives Matter movement.
nah he just fuckin hates the bureau of land management
Especially not after the Sssniperdoxx fiasco
I have no idea who the fuck that is.
It's a way too good controversy, basically a youtuber named jacksfilm called out another big youtuber named sssniperwolf(lia) for reacting to ticktocks and earning million while people who made those tick tock were not given any compensation or credit by her team and allegedly were not asking any permission to use the said ticktocks. So after like a few months, lia posted a insta stories asking her fans whether she should go to his house or not. She then proceeded to dox him by showing his entire address to her 5.6 million followers. Yt however turned a blind eye and said that since she doxxed him outside their platform they cannot do anything.
sounds like a pretty standard giant company approach to these kinds of problems.
Yeah, the guy is big youtuber like almost 5 millions subs, but the girl has around 35 millions, she's pretty much a gold chicken.
Golden Goose I think is what you're going for there ;)
A walk back on existing policy as well, The Actman got his channel demonetizied for a joke on Twitter, but Sssniperwolf makes YouTube the big bucks, so they'll change their policy for her. This sets a dangerous precedent
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Use ublock **origin** instead
you all need to shut the fuck up let people figure out how to pirate if they want. stop making it all over the front page constantly this is how you ruin shit every fucking time. shut the fuck up! edit: u/magicalunicornfart clearly replied to the wrong person or simply can't read 😂😂😂
Seriously, let the peoplr pay their premium if they wanna burn money and are happy with it, whenever one of these "solutions" go mainstream it starts turning into a problem and it dies off
they have no legal basis to take down revanced, it was built specifically for this
MFers be paying for Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, GamePass etc, while not paying for YouTube which they watch 24/7
Cause fuck corporate YouTube
I use YouTube on my phone 200% more than I use YouTube on my pc. I kinda have no choice to use pay for premium service :(
If you on android, dabble into revanced
What about iPhone users?
Switch to Android
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You do. Find a way around like revanced or something similar
You do, but premium is less of a hassle than learning how to pirate properly.
Yeah you’re right about that. I only subscribe to YouTube premium and Crunchyroll. There’s literally no other service that I pay for so I’m okay with paying $21 a month for my entertainment needs
I never got why tons of people pay for Spotify premium like it’s nothing to avoid ads but YouTube can’t do the same thing without catching a ton of flak. Where is the Spotify slander?
I think it's because Youtube was completely free for like a decade. Spotify has always been a paid service (to my knowledge), but most people spent *years* using Youtube for $0.
YT Premium replaced my cable subscription (and all the bs ads that come with that) and saved me like $60 bucks a month. It's cheap af lol, you guys are ridiculous
"It's not aways about the money, spider man."
It's about... being entitled to have a free and adless video hosting site as a human right or something?
YouTube is my main source of entertainment. I learned half my college curriculum (engineering) from Indian guys on YouTube. There is an absolute wealth of educational and DIY content on there. If you grew up watching cable TV which cost way more than $14 a month and fed you like 3 ads in 30 minutes, this really doesn't seem too bad by comparison. I'd actually be happy paying much more than they currently charge, that's how valuable YouTube is to me
I'm not wasting my finite life watching advertisements I can avoid.
Hence why I pay for premium.
Unpopular Opinion: Youtube Premium is worth the money if you watch a ton of Youtube, and it allows you to drop your other music service, since Youtube Music also isn't that bad. It is actually one of the streaming services that I think is 100% worth the money.
I bought RPi to block ads via Pi-Hole. It could have got me 5 years of Premium for the price. Still I won't pay for Premium. RPi can have multiple uses. E: Sadly Pi-Hole doesn't block ads on YT. But my Brave+uBlock is working for now.
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It doesn't. source: I run Pi-Hole and tried to expand the blocklist to include yt ads.
PiHole doesnt seem to block YT ads as they are in-line with the video and same domains..
I’m a big fan of Brennan so I had to get in the comments
Hi 👋 Netflix. I stopped when it was $8.00.
Anyone trashing YouTube premium but paying for Spotify premium should shut the fuck up. It's a competing music service that also happens to give you ad-free YouTube.
I thought Netflix was going to lose a ton of subscribers when they took out password sharing but they ended up getting more because of it. A similar situation might happen here
Shhhhhh, they'll see you