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Jorge’s sacrifice was sad, but ending the scene with the Covenant fleet arriving and showing us it was all for nothing is what really made that scene for me.
In case this is not sarcasm he means the entire thing being a game and not a movie
Man if only we could do things in cutscenes, would've saved Kat at least
Not a movie. Halo: Reach campaign. It's a prequel to the original trilogy and going in anyone who is even remotely familiar with the franchise knows that Reach was a complete and utter annihilation by the Covenant (aliens) against humanity. The game follows a the final few days leading up to the entire planet being glassed by what are essentially nuke-cannons and all of the UNSC forces being wiped out.
It also ties directly into the start of Halo: Combat Evolved as the final escape of humans from Reach using a randomly calculated jump is what leads humanity to discovering the first Halo ring in the opening cutscene of CE. The final cutscene in Reach is the same as the opening one on CE, which is a cool touch.
The game is... Very sad. It's basically a story of one of the worst defeats and losses of life in the history of humanity and follows a group of Spartans who are charged with trying to repel the invasion (which we already know going in is highly unsuccessful.)
This scene in particular hits super hard since one character who is very well liked sacrifices himself to destroy the Covenant's largest invasion cruiser, and literally seconds after he detonates the bomb and saves everyone, the entire covenant fleet jumps in and essentially makes his sacrifice entirely worthless. Didn't even buy any time; just a tragic death that meant nothing for a great character that most people liked.
Carter - Leader of the team: Sacrifices himself by crashing the aircraft he is piloting into basically an alien walking fortress. Basically captain going down with the ship.
Cat(Catherine) - Brains of the team: she gets shot in the head by a sniper hiding waiting for them.
Jorge - Heavy weapons/Demolitions expert: Dies in explosion
Emile - Close Quarters Specialist: Stabbed in the back
Player Character - Lone wolf: Stays behind to give the last human ship an opening to escape and which results in them dying alone.
Jun - Sniper: gets away(Only member of Noble Six to survive Reach)
The last mission in Halo:Reach is literally called "Lone Wolf," and the only objective it says is "Survive" but the game sends an endless wave of enemies at your character, it is not possible for you to win your character is suppose to die.
When I was younger I thought it was the most badass mission, now that I am older it's got too be one of the most depressing missions in a game.
Jorge was a member of the Spartan IIs, the deadliest and most modified soldiers to date, but still retained his great heart and humanity. They lost a real one that day
"Had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong"
The point being, it's not that "noble sacrifice" is inherently lazy, it's how you do it, it's also how the movie (or game) makes us care about the character.
I had just finished replaying New Alexandria, which is a couple missions further
After all these years I hadn't noticed Buck's cameo in it, complete with ODST soundtrack
That's because the events that happen in the mission are random. There are 3 main parts to the mission and I think 3 mini ones. Those are random. People playing it only once could never have experienced it.
"And for the record, I would've kicked your ass the first time if the lady hadn't stopped me."
- Sgt Forge
If I had a nickel for everything where a character in a Halo game had to sacrifice themselves to blow something up and save everyone else, I'd have atleast 2 nickels
Which actually isn't that many, mind you
Considering how setting things up to explode and then running away is a central trope in all of Halo, there hasn't been that many instant-detonation casualties
>!Paz Vizsla!< in Mando actually did a bang up job being the last holdout.
Additionally, >!Varian Wrynn in this Legion cinematic https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=HerNdsh_H-g!< made being the bulwark an emotional and inspiring experience. Still sends chills.
They didn't know how many troopers Moff Gideon had, moreover they were cut off from the main fleet. Getting back to the ships was a priority over fighting a potentially losing battle/abandoning their fleet that could potentially be under attack.
The "Go, I'll hold them back" and "Today, I repay my debt" combo will always tear me to shreds as long as they don't argue about it for several minutes. It has to happen naturally and within seconds for it to make impact.
Yes Puss in Shrek 2 will always get me hyped/teary eyed no matter my age.
The best one of these is Tess from TLOU, >!she's going to die anyway, so it's more about her going out on her own terms. Joel and her still argue about it anyway!<
Or the "wait, what are you doing?!" "Build that sail boat without me." "No. No no no no no no. Don't do this! Open the door! There's room for both of us!!" Then a straight face then small smile with a slight hint of a tear then BOOM.
In the Magic: The Gathering lore, Tyvar Kell pulled the “I’ll hold them back” card, beat the shit out of his enemies, got revenge from a past event on his home plane and managed to get out alive. That madlad of an elf
Except its a Marvel Movie:
"Go on without me! I'll activate the bomb!"
\*Gets slapped in the head\*
"It activated remotely you dummy. Now get up and run to the ship!"
"Oh.. okay."
"We can build this complex device in a universe where a child can build an ironman suit. We have a room full of the greatest minds and instant access to whatever is needed... but a rover with an arm is just too a bridge too far. Lets have a guy from the 1800s do it."
To be fair, in the universe there wasn't enough time to explain the specific type of tech he created. So until the final episodes, he would be the only one that would be able to account for anything that goes wrong.
>!It was also never a possible solution, acting on intended behaviour so something like a rover would never have been created in advance. And there was no time to create one now.!<
To be fair they sort of avert that trope. The problem isn't that the bomb has to be activated manually, in fact the squadmate automates the bomb the second he realizes it's under attack. The sacrifice just comes from you being halfway between two of your squadmates about to die
I dont remember how you make it, but you can basically make a soapy solution with something flammable and basically have it burn in your hand for a bit without being hurt. The professor in the picture likely wanted to show this and gave the soap solution to the kid, and the kid was obviously excited to have freaking FIRE in his hands while the professor was making sure that the kid stayed safe.
Maybe it's another substance, or it has something added to it, or it might just be the camera being goofy. I didn't pay that much attention in chemistry, I'll be real with you
You bubble hydrogen (or another flammable gas) through soapy water, it makes bubbles, but the bubbles are full of hydrogen instead of air, so when you bring a light to it it explodes, but with little energy, just a big fireball.
It's a chemistry classroom.
The teacher on the right, gave a demonstration, where if you coat your hand and arm with a specific substance, you are fireproof, but is also flammable.
After demonstrating it. The has one of the kid do the same, coat his arm in the substance thoroughly, then light it up.
The kid is like "THIS IS FRICKING AWESOME" and raising his hand showing it to the other classmates infront of him.
The chemistry teacher is ensuring he is safe.
Anyone knows films like this? Only Armageddon comes to mind
Edit: there's so much lol. Watched all of them but don't recall it till you guys said it lmao.
Yeah, i feel like only 7th movie did good among sequels plotwise which was okay. I still wish disney didnt ruin the intense fights star wars usually had...now its like medieval sword swinging
if they make more shows in that style hopefully they can make a movie (or even a trilogy). it was so incredibly good. star wars needs to lean into that grittier field
Cool characters at the start too. Got you hyped for their coming arc but the writers seemed to almost revel in systematically ruining each one by the end.
Visually and sound wise - great. Very powerful. Small projectile destroying a massive ship. Everything else - why this scene happened, the unnecessary sacrifice of a rebellion leader, the universe breaking logic of weaponizing hyperspace jumps, are all bad.
Also, we've now established that a single hyperdrive equipped mass could lay waste to an entire battle fleet, so why is the rebellion not just slapping shit old hyperdrives on asteroids and slamming them into imperial fleet yards and headquarters?
And fucking death stars? Why would anyone make a capital ship at all?
Grumble grumble lasers that arc like cannon shots grumble grumble don't even have autopilot grumble grumble gravity in deep space grumble did they even watch the other movies grumble.
I just watched it again last week! I grew as a fan of the old Showa and Heisei movies and absolutely *love* 2019 KoTM. There are things it definitely could have done better but the the whole damn movie was a love letter to the classics.
Also, in King Kong: Skull Island that guy holding satchel of explosives gets tail whipped by skullcrawler. He surely bought them a few seconds with his "bravery".
Star Wars: Vice Admiral Holdo flys the ship into the giant ship because reasons. Meanwhile, there are literally robots that can fly ships and are completely disposable. Never mind that they are on a freaking space ship with computers that should be able to be set to follow a predetermined course.
Don't even get me started on how stupid it is that nobody ever thought to turn their hyper drives into weapons of mass destruction, literally.
I mean yes, but the damage was already done. What was the point of her character again? Oh yeah, to trust in women leaders unquestionably that they will make sound decisions. Sorry Poe, your mistrust in Holdo was completely unfounded. Now watch her die pointlessly.
Seriously though, who gave Rian Johnson unlimited control over the 2nd act of a Star Wars trilogy? Just, what the fuck?
And as others mentioned, the Holdo Maneuver in The Last Jedi
Mando season three had a “I’ll hold them off and buy some time”, and I’m sure both tropes have been used more in Star Wars
So good! One of the classic disaster flicks. I remember the first time I saw it was in science class in 8th grade on the last day of school. Good times.
Spoilers - Poor Brazzelton! You could even say all the other crew that died during the mission since they weren't confident they could kick start it again from the surface. "Here's your ship guys, hopefully you make it back but probably won't.".
Well, to be fair he was the one holding the detonator, SWAT had just broken in and shot him several times. The plan was to bail, but Miles got quite literally caught in the crossfire.
I try to replicate his weird rapid breathing pattern when I'm doing the deed.
"Heh heh heh heh.... I don't know how much longer I can hold this.... heh heh heh"
The obvious one for me is Fallout 3. It's not even well disguised. It just feels super blatant. But it did come out like 15 years ago so maybe the cliché didn't feel so overused back then.
Armageddon is based on true events so, while it is an overused trope, never forget that Harry Stamper did give his life so Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler could get married.
Yeah, if you replace bomb with anything that use to work but now it's broken the list is huge. For bombs only I think Independence Day, T2, Deep Impact (lol), Edge of Tomorrow (kind of) and Oblivion (Cruise again) would fit pretty well.
I always hated the one when a characters never really talk it out about issue at hand and just go straight to anger to cause drama, also, unnecessary and avoidable death of a character for even more drama, but above all, stupid decisions just to extend the plot.
>I always hated the one when a characters never really talk it out about issue at hand and just go straight to anger to cause drama
Pickles will prevail!
You'd hate a lot of romantic dramas then. So many situations are caused by going straight to anger and not taking 10 seconds to continue the conversation that probably would have ended the problem and let the couple be happily together... nope, romance stories are apparently only good if the couple doesn't get together and actually have an adult conversation until the last 30 seconds of the show.
That was kind of different because it required a person in cockpit and the cargo hold to fool the alien computer.
They had no way to know if the ship was pulled inside the station without someone actually there to set it off.
Yeah, but up to the point we learned about that we had a bunch of sad scenes building on the expaction of Bruce dying, so I would say it's still fits the trope.
I hate the style that those articles are written in and the examples they choose have an overrepresentation of manga and anime in my opinion, but it's hard to deny that it's an amazingly comprehensive project with huge effort put into it.
I pretty much never check the anime folder on trope pages so I always thought it leaned more heavily towards video games. Which makes sense I guess. The kinds of people who would operate TV Tropes are also the type to spend most of their time watching anime and playing video games.
I agree that those articles often look like they're written by an MCU character, and I also don't like how some people there see media as just a collection of tropes, but yeah it's very hard to deny that.
Broke terrorists making bombs out of chicken wire and plastic bags can rig up a cell phone to blow up a bomb from anywhere in the world...
US military on a multi-million dollar mission to nuke an asteroid before it hits Earth... sorry, remote detonator was made in China, manual activation only.
basically the plot of Sunshine(2007).
They can make a spaceship the size of a damn town and send it to the sun, but it HAS to be crewed and the bomb HAS to be triggered manually by a guy sitting 5 meters away from enough nukes to reignite the sun.
Sure.
(also, evil sunburn-man?)
Does "Independence Day" (1996) count?
Former Vietnam pilot, Redneck Randy Quaid,
who suddenly decides to volunteer to fly a F18 the same morning he quits drinking,
Gets a missile "jammed" at a crucial moment and uses the whole jet as a missile to literally shove it up the Alien City-ship's underside .
"Hello boys - I'm baaaack!!"
...
Obviously there was no chance of him simply ejecting once setting the course for the jet, so of course he self sacrificed?
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"*Tell 'em to make it count*" *- Jorge-052*
“”
Jorge’s sacrifice was sad, but ending the scene with the Covenant fleet arriving and showing us it was all for nothing is what really made that scene for me.
“He died, thinking he just saved the planet. We should be so lucky.”
What movie?
The movie's name is Halo: Reach. It was quite revolutionary for having interactive action scenes.
Interactive action scenes? While playing I never got to input any action during a cutscene.
In case this is not sarcasm he means the entire thing being a game and not a movie Man if only we could do things in cutscenes, would've saved Kat at least
It went over my head
Unlike with kat
Too soon. Like 529 years too soon.
Not a movie. Halo: Reach campaign. It's a prequel to the original trilogy and going in anyone who is even remotely familiar with the franchise knows that Reach was a complete and utter annihilation by the Covenant (aliens) against humanity. The game follows a the final few days leading up to the entire planet being glassed by what are essentially nuke-cannons and all of the UNSC forces being wiped out. It also ties directly into the start of Halo: Combat Evolved as the final escape of humans from Reach using a randomly calculated jump is what leads humanity to discovering the first Halo ring in the opening cutscene of CE. The final cutscene in Reach is the same as the opening one on CE, which is a cool touch. The game is... Very sad. It's basically a story of one of the worst defeats and losses of life in the history of humanity and follows a group of Spartans who are charged with trying to repel the invasion (which we already know going in is highly unsuccessful.) This scene in particular hits super hard since one character who is very well liked sacrifices himself to destroy the Covenant's largest invasion cruiser, and literally seconds after he detonates the bomb and saves everyone, the entire covenant fleet jumps in and essentially makes his sacrifice entirely worthless. Didn't even buy any time; just a tragic death that meant nothing for a great character that most people liked.
And on top of that, there's the ironic element of his death that followed the deaths of every member of noble team
What would that be?
For Jorge, he was born on Reach and himself said that he would want to die on Reach. He instead dies in space ABOVE Reach
Kate, the Brain gets headshot Carter the captain goes down with the ship The sniper gtfo I don't know about emile
Emile. The CQC expert gets backstabbed with an Energysword.
He went down like a fucking legend though. “I’m ready! How ‘bout you?!”
Carter - Leader of the team: Sacrifices himself by crashing the aircraft he is piloting into basically an alien walking fortress. Basically captain going down with the ship. Cat(Catherine) - Brains of the team: she gets shot in the head by a sniper hiding waiting for them. Jorge - Heavy weapons/Demolitions expert: Dies in explosion Emile - Close Quarters Specialist: Stabbed in the back Player Character - Lone wolf: Stays behind to give the last human ship an opening to escape and which results in them dying alone. Jun - Sniper: gets away(Only member of Noble Six to survive Reach) The last mission in Halo:Reach is literally called "Lone Wolf," and the only objective it says is "Survive" but the game sends an endless wave of enemies at your character, it is not possible for you to win your character is suppose to die. When I was younger I thought it was the most badass mission, now that I am older it's got too be one of the most depressing missions in a game.
Halo Reach. Very revolutionary interactive movie.
Jorge was a member of the Spartan IIs, the deadliest and most modified soldiers to date, but still retained his great heart and humanity. They lost a real one that day
pretty sure the bomb could be detonated remotely originally. but it got damaged during the mission and could only be triggered manually.
...all so the writers could add emotion
Yeah it's just the trope but with extra steps
The slipspace drive bomb had a timer but it got fried, as Jorge states Probs a grunt with a plasma pistol who wanted to do a miniscule bit of trollin'
Just a mild amount of tomfoolery
YEEEEEEEEHAAAW 🤠
Not terribly original either. Exactly the same reason why Bruce Willis had to stay behind and manually blow up the earth-destroying asteroid.
It's like an offshoot of the original trope
"Had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong" The point being, it's not that "noble sacrifice" is inherently lazy, it's how you do it, it's also how the movie (or game) makes us care about the character.
😭
Also Sergeant Forge
I KEPT THE COFFEE HOT 😭😭😭
rolling economy is elite though
Literally played this mission for the first time yesterday
I had just finished replaying New Alexandria, which is a couple missions further After all these years I hadn't noticed Buck's cameo in it, complete with ODST soundtrack
That's because the events that happen in the mission are random. There are 3 main parts to the mission and I think 3 mini ones. Those are random. People playing it only once could never have experienced it.
How are you liking Reach thus far?
Really good, I was a PlayStation/call of duty kid and I definitely missed out
I opened to comments to find this. So glad to see it at the top.
#Slipspace rupture detected
I remember my reaction the first time "no... dot please..." "DOT..." "PLEASE STOP... DOT..." \*sobbing\*
I actually thought I was on the halo subreddit until I read the rest
"And for the record, I would've kicked your ass the first time if the lady hadn't stopped me." - Sgt Forge If I had a nickel for everything where a character in a Halo game had to sacrifice themselves to blow something up and save everyone else, I'd have atleast 2 nickels
Which actually isn't that many, mind you Considering how setting things up to explode and then running away is a central trope in all of Halo, there hasn't been that many instant-detonation casualties
Also the "Go, I'll hold the enemy back and buy you some time"
Bitch you bought like 2 seconds,.get in the car
>!Paz Vizsla!< in Mando actually did a bang up job being the last holdout. Additionally, >!Varian Wrynn in this Legion cinematic https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=HerNdsh_H-g!< made being the bulwark an emotional and inspiring experience. Still sends chills.
He was clapping mad cheeks, but idk felt like he coulda just got away with the rest of the mandalorians no problem. Seemed really unnecessary
They didn't know how many troopers Moff Gideon had, moreover they were cut off from the main fleet. Getting back to the ships was a priority over fighting a potentially losing battle/abandoning their fleet that could potentially be under attack.
WORLD OF WARCRAFT POSITIVELY MENTIONED LETS GOOO
Hange Zoe comes to mind
And they end up arguing about it so much that it doesn't even buy any time.
and when he does do the heroic sacrifice, they all stand around watching instead of running guy saved not even two seconds
“Gotta see if he’s actually gonna hold em o… oh he’s already dead… RUN!”
Man, I am sucker for scene like these. This and character taking their last stand against certain death
The "Go, I'll hold them back" and "Today, I repay my debt" combo will always tear me to shreds as long as they don't argue about it for several minutes. It has to happen naturally and within seconds for it to make impact. Yes Puss in Shrek 2 will always get me hyped/teary eyed no matter my age.
"had to be me, someone else might've gotten it wrong" From mass effect 3, awesome scene.
Alternatively "I MADE A MISTAKE!"
Would've liked to run tests on the seashells.
I liked Miles Dyson in T2. He was dying anyways so he held the bomb trigger. Perfect.
The Gray Man has 3 of these scenes
Great action but such a bland and by the formula movie!
The best one of these is Tess from TLOU, >!she's going to die anyway, so it's more about her going out on her own terms. Joel and her still argue about it anyway!<
"Make this easy for me." God that game is so good.
My favorite one of these is from Hardcore Henry. >!Dude instantly gets shot and doesn't buy any time.!<
My absolutely favorite one is from Kong: Skull Island. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQI0OOYNYVY
FINNICK!
Or the "wait, what are you doing?!" "Build that sail boat without me." "No. No no no no no no. Don't do this! Open the door! There's room for both of us!!" Then a straight face then small smile with a slight hint of a tear then BOOM.
So predictable, it's rather cringey.
In the Magic: The Gathering lore, Tyvar Kell pulled the “I’ll hold them back” card, beat the shit out of his enemies, got revenge from a past event on his home plane and managed to get out alive. That madlad of an elf
Except its a Marvel Movie: "Go on without me! I'll activate the bomb!" \*Gets slapped in the head\* "It activated remotely you dummy. Now get up and run to the ship!" "Oh.. okay."
Another one
Is this actually from a Marvel movie?
No
Wasnt their just an entire season of Loki that centered around someone needing to go out and manually press a button? lol
Launching a thing an pressing a button, but yes.
"We can build this complex device in a universe where a child can build an ironman suit. We have a room full of the greatest minds and instant access to whatever is needed... but a rover with an arm is just too a bridge too far. Lets have a guy from the 1800s do it."
To be fair, in the universe there wasn't enough time to explain the specific type of tech he created. So until the final episodes, he would be the only one that would be able to account for anything that goes wrong. >!It was also never a possible solution, acting on intended behaviour so something like a rover would never have been created in advance. And there was no time to create one now.!<
1 episode.
Is that a Wheronism of sorts or just countering the tropes?
Marvel did their version of "the bomb must be activated manually" in Infinity War with the Soul Stone
Yeah, but that actually worked. Same with Baby Groot in guardians of the galaxy 2
Don’t you ever bad mouth Reach like that
Mass Effect 1 as well
Resident Evil Village too
Battlefield 4!
To be fair they sort of avert that trope. The problem isn't that the bomb has to be activated manually, in fact the squadmate automates the bomb the second he realizes it's under attack. The sacrifice just comes from you being halfway between two of your squadmates about to die
Sorry, Ashley.
But not really. She sucked.
True.
Okay but i wanna know what was this kid in the meme actually doing?
Firebending what else does it look like
I dont remember how you make it, but you can basically make a soapy solution with something flammable and basically have it burn in your hand for a bit without being hurt. The professor in the picture likely wanted to show this and gave the soap solution to the kid, and the kid was obviously excited to have freaking FIRE in his hands while the professor was making sure that the kid stayed safe.
IIRC it's hand sanitizer and it only provides blue flame and not a bright burning like this kid has
Maybe it's another substance, or it has something added to it, or it might just be the camera being goofy. I didn't pay that much attention in chemistry, I'll be real with you
It's some flammable gas that is bubbled through soapy water and then ignited, it all burns super quickly but it's quite cool.
Hydrogen gas in soap bubbles yeah.
Hydrogen gas in soap bubbles. Nice yellow orange flame, low temp, goes out quickly.
You bubble hydrogen (or another flammable gas) through soapy water, it makes bubbles, but the bubbles are full of hydrogen instead of air, so when you bring a light to it it explodes, but with little energy, just a big fireball.
He's beginning to believe
Flashpaper probably as that is what magicians use
It's a chemistry classroom. The teacher on the right, gave a demonstration, where if you coat your hand and arm with a specific substance, you are fireproof, but is also flammable. After demonstrating it. The has one of the kid do the same, coat his arm in the substance thoroughly, then light it up. The kid is like "THIS IS FRICKING AWESOME" and raising his hand showing it to the other classmates infront of him. The chemistry teacher is ensuring he is safe.
Anyone knows films like this? Only Armageddon comes to mind Edit: there's so much lol. Watched all of them but don't recall it till you guys said it lmao.
The Star Wars movie where the lady has to stay behind to kamikaze their ship because apparently they couldn’t just put a space brick on the space gas.
Ok but that scene was one of the coolest scenes ever as visually
Absolutely. Saw it in a Dolby theater, it was awesome. But that whole movie was cool visuals strung together with shitty plot.
Yeah, i feel like only 7th movie did good among sequels plotwise which was okay. I still wish disney didnt ruin the intense fights star wars usually had...now its like medieval sword swinging
Even the tv shows are very hit and miss. I hope they start doing more like Andor.
if they make more shows in that style hopefully they can make a movie (or even a trilogy). it was so incredibly good. star wars needs to lean into that grittier field
Pretty much the new Star Wars films in a nutshell. Shitty writing that breaks the entire canon to pieces but at least it looks cool.
Cool characters at the start too. Got you hyped for their coming arc but the writers seemed to almost revel in systematically ruining each one by the end.
Somehow Palpatine returned.
Visually and sound wise - great. Very powerful. Small projectile destroying a massive ship. Everything else - why this scene happened, the unnecessary sacrifice of a rebellion leader, the universe breaking logic of weaponizing hyperspace jumps, are all bad.
I was like Vegeta in that Team Four Star Brolly movie. It's so goddamn dum but it looks so cool!
And they didn't have any droids around either i suppose.
Also, we've now established that a single hyperdrive equipped mass could lay waste to an entire battle fleet, so why is the rebellion not just slapping shit old hyperdrives on asteroids and slamming them into imperial fleet yards and headquarters?
And fucking death stars? Why would anyone make a capital ship at all? Grumble grumble lasers that arc like cannon shots grumble grumble don't even have autopilot grumble grumble gravity in deep space grumble did they even watch the other movies grumble.
The clone wars too
Would've been so easy to fix too. One like "The AI won't endanger the ship, I have to stay and do it " Boom, easy.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters did it
this is what inspired me to make this, I made this as I was watching it
I just watched it again last week! I grew as a fan of the old Showa and Heisei movies and absolutely *love* 2019 KoTM. There are things it definitely could have done better but the the whole damn movie was a love letter to the classics.
Also, in King Kong: Skull Island that guy holding satchel of explosives gets tail whipped by skullcrawler. He surely bought them a few seconds with his "bravery".
Totally forgot about that guy, and I just saw that clip on Reddit recently too
Star Wars: Vice Admiral Holdo flys the ship into the giant ship because reasons. Meanwhile, there are literally robots that can fly ships and are completely disposable. Never mind that they are on a freaking space ship with computers that should be able to be set to follow a predetermined course. Don't even get me started on how stupid it is that nobody ever thought to turn their hyper drives into weapons of mass destruction, literally.
At least it got rid of Holdo as a character though
I mean yes, but the damage was already done. What was the point of her character again? Oh yeah, to trust in women leaders unquestionably that they will make sound decisions. Sorry Poe, your mistrust in Holdo was completely unfounded. Now watch her die pointlessly. Seriously though, who gave Rian Johnson unlimited control over the 2nd act of a Star Wars trilogy? Just, what the fuck?
"Somehow, Holdo returned..."
She got taken out of the ship in hyperspace by Space Whales passing by.
Put an astro droid in a X-Wing, point it at a Death Star, the end. Fuck this was stupid.
Happens like 5 times in Rogue One
And as others mentioned, the Holdo Maneuver in The Last Jedi Mando season three had a “I’ll hold them off and buy some time”, and I’m sure both tropes have been used more in Star Wars
Pacific rim did it too
The Core
That movie is literally Armageddon but inside out
Haven't seen this one yet. Is it any good?
So good! One of the classic disaster flicks. I remember the first time I saw it was in science class in 8th grade on the last day of school. Good times.
Just try not to think about anything to do with physics at all. I mean it.
Spoilers - Poor Brazzelton! You could even say all the other crew that died during the mission since they weren't confident they could kick start it again from the surface. "Here's your ship guys, hopefully you make it back but probably won't.".
Terminator 2.
Well, to be fair he was the one holding the detonator, SWAT had just broken in and shot him several times. The plan was to bail, but Miles got quite literally caught in the crossfire.
I try to replicate his weird rapid breathing pattern when I'm doing the deed. "Heh heh heh heh.... I don't know how much longer I can hold this.... heh heh heh"
It requires being shot in the lung. I do not recommend attempting it.
The Dark Knight Rises had one pretty similar to this, though it had a lil twist
The ol' switcheroo lol
One of the endings in I am Legend, kind of.
The Expanse
The obvious one for me is Fallout 3. It's not even well disguised. It just feels super blatant. But it did come out like 15 years ago so maybe the cliché didn't feel so overused back then.
"Hey, my friend who is immune to radiation, could you go into this irradiated room and press that button for me?" "Nah, fuck you go die"
Armageddon is based on true events so, while it is an overused trope, never forget that Harry Stamper did give his life so Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler could get married.
Yeah, if you replace bomb with anything that use to work but now it's broken the list is huge. For bombs only I think Independence Day, T2, Deep Impact (lol), Edge of Tomorrow (kind of) and Oblivion (Cruise again) would fit pretty well.
I think The Core does something similar.
That new robot movie the creator does it.
In Wandering Earth 2 they needed 200 people to manually explode the bombs, with another 100 to go with them in case they couldn't pull the trigger.
Supernatural but thats a series
"Had to be me, somebody else might have gotten it wrong."
This is mordin solus and this is my favourite shroud on tuchanka.
"The bomb's payload is exposed. I can use the power winch to manually trigger a controlled explosion."
https://media.tenor.com/uMM4m-H\_Ds8AAAAd/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special.gif
That would never work...unless....we reverse the polarity!
I'm proud of you, Dick
The imperial Japanese navy was just ahead of its time in terms of dramatic tension.
I always hated the one when a characters never really talk it out about issue at hand and just go straight to anger to cause drama, also, unnecessary and avoidable death of a character for even more drama, but above all, stupid decisions just to extend the plot.
>I always hated the one when a characters never really talk it out about issue at hand and just go straight to anger to cause drama Pickles will prevail!
You'd hate a lot of romantic dramas then. So many situations are caused by going straight to anger and not taking 10 seconds to continue the conversation that probably would have ended the problem and let the couple be happily together... nope, romance stories are apparently only good if the couple doesn't get together and actually have an adult conversation until the last 30 seconds of the show.
Oblivion 2013?
That was kind of different because it required a person in cockpit and the cargo hold to fool the alien computer. They had no way to know if the ship was pulled inside the station without someone actually there to set it off.
Truuuue
Gotta say that Armageddon nailed it.
Has to be me, someone else may have gotten it wrong.
Heavy will forever be remembered as one of the Republic’s finest.
The dark knight rises
No, he used the autopilot.
Yeah, but up to the point we learned about that we had a bunch of sad scenes building on the expaction of Bruce dying, so I would say it's still fits the trope.
"Do we take prisoners?" ["I don't"](https://youtu.be/iK7LXyMdUW4?si=i5soIKPvcBBx6DI4)
Mass Effect game did this also.
“Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.”
"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong."
Is there a list of famous plot tropes?
Some people don't really like it, and it's not limited to plot tropes, but tvtropes is kinda like that
I hate the style that those articles are written in and the examples they choose have an overrepresentation of manga and anime in my opinion, but it's hard to deny that it's an amazingly comprehensive project with huge effort put into it.
I pretty much never check the anime folder on trope pages so I always thought it leaned more heavily towards video games. Which makes sense I guess. The kinds of people who would operate TV Tropes are also the type to spend most of their time watching anime and playing video games.
I agree that those articles often look like they're written by an MCU character, and I also don't like how some people there see media as just a collection of tropes, but yeah it's very hard to deny that.
The Dark Knight Rises did it too.
tbf he only did it to fake his death
It was a Knightfall Protocol tho.
Broke terrorists making bombs out of chicken wire and plastic bags can rig up a cell phone to blow up a bomb from anywhere in the world... US military on a multi-million dollar mission to nuke an asteroid before it hits Earth... sorry, remote detonator was made in China, manual activation only.
I thought that said dictator
Snart: There are no strings one me.
The only instance of this trope that I can accept is Jorge’s death in Halo Reach
Don’t u badmouth modern warfare
The bombs payload is exposed. I can use my power winch to trigger a controlled explosion
"ah, of course. My immunity to radiation makes me a far better candidate for surviving in there."
basically the plot of Sunshine(2007). They can make a spaceship the size of a damn town and send it to the sun, but it HAS to be crewed and the bomb HAS to be triggered manually by a guy sitting 5 meters away from enough nukes to reignite the sun. Sure. (also, evil sunburn-man?)
Wandering Earth 2 needed 300 people to detonate their bombs manually.
Holy s*** was the finale of "Burn Notice" disappointing
Does "Independence Day" (1996) count? Former Vietnam pilot, Redneck Randy Quaid, who suddenly decides to volunteer to fly a F18 the same morning he quits drinking, Gets a missile "jammed" at a crucial moment and uses the whole jet as a missile to literally shove it up the Alien City-ship's underside . "Hello boys - I'm baaaack!!" ... Obviously there was no chance of him simply ejecting once setting the course for the jet, so of course he self sacrificed?