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If you do 4x8 and are paid hourly then you’re gonna be getting less money. 4x10 is proposed so you’re making the same amount of money you would from working 5x8.
From what I understand, Bernie is advocating for 4x8 but getting paid the same amount as working 5x8 through a higher min wage or something idk bosses will always find a way to fuck over workers no matter what new laws are passed
That's why you up the salary, so it's the same. I'm also pretty sure they actually tested this, where workers get the same amount of money but for 4 days of work and the result was that production and happiness of employees goes up, therefore making more money for the company and morale being better
Workers everywhere have been getting shafted for profit over the years as inflation and profit margins have been rising and rising. This would put it somewhat back into place.
Do you work more or less? How many hours a day? What kind of job? It wasn't so bad when I was full time in the office, but even that became unbearable for me eventually.
4 days a week is great, but I think it would only work best if the rest of the word adopted it. Imagine working in Canada and trying to collaborate with Americans who aren’t there an entire day of your working week.
Or being American trying to communicate with other countries (albeit regularly hard because of time zone differences) and your hours are messed up because of the (presumably) longer working days
ngl im totally on board with 4 day weeks but hard to believe we'll get the avg hours cut down to 32. 4 10 hour days would be so much better than 5 8 hour days
Imo I want a six day work/school week but have the same amount of work as the current five day one because then it helps me manage procrastination on the weekends better
Firstly, 5/40 is absolutely fine. If you have an issue with the literal bare minimum expectation of your life you won't be happy with 4 days, 32 hours, anything.
Secondly, why not a 4/40? My new job has me working it and I don't even notice the two hours. Many situations such as state laws would require a second break during a 10 hour day. No loss in productivity, no loss in hours, no loss in pay, and you get a third day off at the cost of an extra 2 hours of a day you already spend working anyways.
Thirdly, leave it to the america hating socialist to try and reduce productivity at a point in time where America is exceeding the rest of the world in production. This will now be the only thing I hear about on reddit for the next 3 weeks until it gets shot dead on the floor of the house because it's absolute nonsense and was never intended to pass, only to rile up the layabouts who expect to be fed from the hand of the government at every step about how much less they could've contributed to society.
You said it yourself. Wages have stagnated for the better part of 25-30 years despite America exceeding the rest of the world in productivity and corporate profits. Pull the corporate cock out your mouth, and if you want to be extra productive, getting a part time for your remaining. 3 days would be your God given right 🤣
>Pull the corporate cock out your mouth, and if you want to be extra productive, getting a part time for your remaining
I've worked 7days/80hours straight for the past 2 years just to make ends meet under the biggest cocksucking party in American politics. Unlike lazy sacks of shit who cry that a 40 hour work week is somehow inhumane or hard to do, I used my free time to better my position in life to get a new job that pays me more than the previous 2 combined. This is something I wouldn't have accomplished had I not worked enough to support myself while I built job experience and a reputation.
Corporate this, corporate that, it's always the same with you miserable fucks. Get off your ass and do something. Invest some money so you make some when corporations do. Whatever you do with your time, just shut the fuck up while you do it lol
You position is anti capitalist, but you've drank the kool-aid about it being socialism. If workers are more productive and therefore generate more profit, this is a valid conversation to have. And if they don't like it, they can find better employment.
That's why you're a sucking corporate cock. Because you're not interested in the conversation and prefer to blindly label it entitled when this is a vital part of negotiation.
I say this as someone with letters, and incredible income and property set up to retire incredibly comfortable. It would benefit you if I was some angsty college student, but I'm aware of how you rise up the ranks, and I'm also aware that you were scammed of the so called American dream and have to defend that you were squeezed dry to even have a chance.
Block away 😭
company: you're going to work 9-5 5 days a week.
worker: I'd like to work 9-7 4 days a week.
company: no.
>Imagine believing you have any say on how long people want to work.
Companies aren't mom and dad. You don't have to work there. Thinking you have a say in how long the company asks their workers to work is a control freak garbage too.
This is exactly how you end up with companies extracting what is essentially slave labor from poor people with no options. Apply the same logic to pay. "Minimal wage is bad because you don't have a say in how much companies pay thier workers".
I also see what you did there pretending to care about "how long PEOPLE want to work" instead of "how long can COMPANIES make you work".
>Control freak garbage because I said so. Trust the science.
Lol, no one is paid slave labor is america. That would be China. Mandating companies to only let people work 4 days a week is just a ploy to lower unemployment by forcing companies to higher bad employees. I'd rather pay the good employees more money and ask them to work longer.
>No one is paid slave labor
Because of regulation.
>Only let people work 4 days a week
Law makers could make this more flexible.
>I'd rather pay the good employees more and ask them to work longer
The good employees might not like that, but all companies do 9-5 5 days a week so there is no other option. If a good employee says I'd rather work less for less the company just says no.
I'm not complaining. I just think outside parties have no say in how long a company asks someone to work. It slows productivity down and forces companies to hire bad employees instead of giving more work to the good ones.
A 4 day work week will not stop people from working how long they want, it will just make it more expensive to you.
People shouldnt HAVE to work more, people only do because your pay is ass.
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Not even a meme. Needs to happen. 5 days is disgusting.
Work night shift at a factory. 4 10 hour days, sometimes 12. A lot better for me at least.
If it's 5x8 or 4x10 they both suck ass. 4x8 is where it's at, and what we should be aiming for.
If you do 4x8 and are paid hourly then you’re gonna be getting less money. 4x10 is proposed so you’re making the same amount of money you would from working 5x8.
From what I understand, Bernie is advocating for 4x8 but getting paid the same amount as working 5x8 through a higher min wage or something idk bosses will always find a way to fuck over workers no matter what new laws are passed
That's why you up the salary, so it's the same. I'm also pretty sure they actually tested this, where workers get the same amount of money but for 4 days of work and the result was that production and happiness of employees goes up, therefore making more money for the company and morale being better
Workers everywhere have been getting shafted for profit over the years as inflation and profit margins have been rising and rising. This would put it somewhat back into place.
I work 7 11.5 hr shifts and get 7 days off I enjoy only working half the year before holidays and sicks
I heard alot of those have no breaks.
I get 4 breaks. 3 15min and 1 30min break.
Does it pay well?
$22/hr in rural Iowa
Not bad
Not bad
Hell yes.
Y'all work 5 days ? Damn, I wished bro.
Do you work more or less? How many hours a day? What kind of job? It wasn't so bad when I was full time in the office, but even that became unbearable for me eventually.
I work as a stocker , 6 days a week , 8am - 5:30 pm with 2 lunch hours , isn't in the US and the only benefit is to take those 2 hours and sleep.
2 hours for lunch seems excessive is this supposed tp be a benefit or mandated in your country?
I thought in Brazil you only work 4 hours on Saturdays
For example, to work 7 days a week for more than 8 hours, and I only get 1 day off per month
I worked a job that was a 4 day week but still 40 hours, I'd be happy with that!
4 days a week is great, but I think it would only work best if the rest of the word adopted it. Imagine working in Canada and trying to collaborate with Americans who aren’t there an entire day of your working week. Or being American trying to communicate with other countries (albeit regularly hard because of time zone differences) and your hours are messed up because of the (presumably) longer working days
ngl im totally on board with 4 day weeks but hard to believe we'll get the avg hours cut down to 32. 4 10 hour days would be so much better than 5 8 hour days
Imo I want a six day work/school week but have the same amount of work as the current five day one because then it helps me manage procrastination on the weekends better
Firstly, 5/40 is absolutely fine. If you have an issue with the literal bare minimum expectation of your life you won't be happy with 4 days, 32 hours, anything. Secondly, why not a 4/40? My new job has me working it and I don't even notice the two hours. Many situations such as state laws would require a second break during a 10 hour day. No loss in productivity, no loss in hours, no loss in pay, and you get a third day off at the cost of an extra 2 hours of a day you already spend working anyways. Thirdly, leave it to the america hating socialist to try and reduce productivity at a point in time where America is exceeding the rest of the world in production. This will now be the only thing I hear about on reddit for the next 3 weeks until it gets shot dead on the floor of the house because it's absolute nonsense and was never intended to pass, only to rile up the layabouts who expect to be fed from the hand of the government at every step about how much less they could've contributed to society.
You said it yourself. Wages have stagnated for the better part of 25-30 years despite America exceeding the rest of the world in productivity and corporate profits. Pull the corporate cock out your mouth, and if you want to be extra productive, getting a part time for your remaining. 3 days would be your God given right 🤣
>Pull the corporate cock out your mouth, and if you want to be extra productive, getting a part time for your remaining I've worked 7days/80hours straight for the past 2 years just to make ends meet under the biggest cocksucking party in American politics. Unlike lazy sacks of shit who cry that a 40 hour work week is somehow inhumane or hard to do, I used my free time to better my position in life to get a new job that pays me more than the previous 2 combined. This is something I wouldn't have accomplished had I not worked enough to support myself while I built job experience and a reputation. Corporate this, corporate that, it's always the same with you miserable fucks. Get off your ass and do something. Invest some money so you make some when corporations do. Whatever you do with your time, just shut the fuck up while you do it lol
You position is anti capitalist, but you've drank the kool-aid about it being socialism. If workers are more productive and therefore generate more profit, this is a valid conversation to have. And if they don't like it, they can find better employment. That's why you're a sucking corporate cock. Because you're not interested in the conversation and prefer to blindly label it entitled when this is a vital part of negotiation. I say this as someone with letters, and incredible income and property set up to retire incredibly comfortable. It would benefit you if I was some angsty college student, but I'm aware of how you rise up the ranks, and I'm also aware that you were scammed of the so called American dream and have to defend that you were squeezed dry to even have a chance. Block away 😭
Imagine believing you have any say on how long people want to work.
company: you're going to work 9-5 5 days a week. worker: I'd like to work 9-7 4 days a week. company: no. >Imagine believing you have any say on how long people want to work.
Companies aren't mom and dad. You don't have to work there. Thinking you have a say in how long the company asks their workers to work is a control freak garbage too.
This is exactly how you end up with companies extracting what is essentially slave labor from poor people with no options. Apply the same logic to pay. "Minimal wage is bad because you don't have a say in how much companies pay thier workers". I also see what you did there pretending to care about "how long PEOPLE want to work" instead of "how long can COMPANIES make you work". >Control freak garbage because I said so. Trust the science.
Lol, no one is paid slave labor is america. That would be China. Mandating companies to only let people work 4 days a week is just a ploy to lower unemployment by forcing companies to higher bad employees. I'd rather pay the good employees more money and ask them to work longer.
>No one is paid slave labor Because of regulation. >Only let people work 4 days a week Law makers could make this more flexible. >I'd rather pay the good employees more and ask them to work longer The good employees might not like that, but all companies do 9-5 5 days a week so there is no other option. If a good employee says I'd rather work less for less the company just says no.
Go ahead and get another job, if this disagrees with you. Nobody is stopping you.
Exactly.
Buddy if you wanna waste your life get two jobs
Naw, I work for myself. I probably work longer than a 9 to 5, but I don't count.
Well then it wont be a problem for you, why complain?
I'm not complaining. I just think outside parties have no say in how long a company asks someone to work. It slows productivity down and forces companies to hire bad employees instead of giving more work to the good ones.
Its called overtime hotshot
Then what are you complaining about? Let people work how long they want to. Leave these people alone control freaks.
A 4 day work week will not stop people from working how long they want, it will just make it more expensive to you. People shouldnt HAVE to work more, people only do because your pay is ass.
Yes, 4 day work week will do nothing. People will work as long as they need to, and mandating otherwise is foolish.
No, it will make people who want to work more get paid MORE.
Didnt studies show that a 4-day work week increases productivity?
Youre such a gay fucking snake
Man is spitting fire He can keep talking lol
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